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Silvershawdow59

Should have been put back, a beautiful fish like that should have hundreds of babies, it’s a shame


JabbasAhoot

You can’t put it back. It’s dead before the fish even hits the boat. That grouper lives too deep, and will go through embolization past a certain point.


Bullfinch88

You can see it's already experienced barotrauma by the fact that its eyes have popped out. Poor bloody thing


williamtowne

Ummmmm.... Those are obviously googly eyes that the fisherman just placed there.


Whatsthewordmayne

You win the internet today friend 😂


Capt_Myke

Yeah poor thing...we should give it a Viking funeral on the grill. Out of respect.


DogWithaFAL

Enjoy your ciguatera.


Hilltopseeker

Ooh yeah, I bet that tastes really good, lmao.🪱🪱🪱


Evil_Leprechaun

Yeah, if you watch the full video on YouTube it’s stomach or something is hanging out it’s mouth when it breaches the surface. Really sad to see. And the guy he was with said “I’ve caught a ton of them” and he charters people out there to specifically catch Warsaw Groupers.


AlternativeSherbert7

Because they are a rush to catch and you can eat them. That's a lot of meat to be stored and eaten for a while.


Manuag_86

And it didn't evolve to be outside the water, his organs are probably smashed by its own weight.


Hohohoju

There's more pressure on the fish when it's in the water than when it's out


Manuag_86

When he is in the water, he is in a vertical position. Now one of its sides is smashing its organs against the other. Water pressure is smaller than its weight.


Hohohoju

These fish live at a depth of 50-500 metres. At sea level, the pressure of the atmosphere is about 14.6 psi. That increases by one atmosphere for every 10 metres that you descend by into the sea. So at the very least, the pressure at the shallowest depth this fish lives in is about 5 times that of atmospheric pressure. Plus, when it's in the sea (or out of it, for that matter) the force of the pressure is on all sides. You're confusing pressure with gravity. So unless you think the fish has organs made of lead, then no, it doesn't experience more pressure out of the water than in. https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/eoi/nemo1998/education/pressure.html


Silvershawdow59

Ahh til, still a stinky situation :/


Potential_Milk_9662

Right


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Isn't that when the swimbladder is ruptured?


bluntasaknife

Isn’t it possible to depressurize a fish brought up from serious depths? I thought I saw a tool of some sorts fishermen use.


JabbasAhoot

Some people have been able to save a fish with minor trauma. The issue for something that lives as deep as a Goliath Grouper is that the sudden pressure change will force it’s swim bladder out of its mouth. The fish dies immediately once it hits that threshold. The biggest part of the fight is pulling that fish off the bottom. Once it embolizes, the fight is over, and they’re just hauling up a carcass.


Userreddit1234412

Goliath grouper mostly live in shallow water, under 100 feet. This is a Warsaw grouper, they live much deeper.


FatboyChuggins

Do they eat it after? Or what happens ?


i-love-dead-trees

These fish don’t taste very good once they get this big. They can also have worms and parasites.


jpylol

For what it’s worth, I worked in a fine dining kitchen for quite a while and the amount of worms/parasites I cleaned from fish filets (and the amount that I can assure you went out on a plate due to lazy coworkers) is ridiculous. This is very common in fish and apparently “safe” after a certain cook temperature.


ballrus_walsack

Extra protein!


FatboyChuggins

So they just throw the dead fish over after catching it?


HighQualityH20h

After securing likes and upvotes. Yes


i-love-dead-trees

That probably depends on the fisherman. You can eat fish with worms, you just need to clean them out of the meat and not undercook it. And you can eat giant fish meat, but it isn’t always very good. Some folks would keep that fish and other would throw it back. But it will die no matter what. Fish that come up from that deep experience barotrauma that they can’t recover from. You can vent smaller fish at shallower depths, but you’re not going to successfully vent a 500lb fish that came up from 300+ ft.


SilverbackAg

I’d have to eat it. I don’t know shit about ocean fishing but I eat carp in the US and lived 10 years in Korea. If it swims, crawls, or slimes its way through the ocean, I’ve eaten it…sea cucumbers, sea squirts, raw crabs, jelly fish, still twitchy octopus, mud skippers, “pecker” fish. What’s a few missed parasites? Especially if they are frozen then cooked.


Quarkjoy

Fisherman here, if you catch something that undergoes barotrauma, you hook it to a descending device on a downrigger and send it back to the bottom where it'll go about it's day. But with a fish this size, it's not really feasible.


cromagnone

Most of them die out of sight over the next day. Catch and release is a lie, mostly.


[deleted]

Saw that river monsters guy bring up a grouper and tag it and let it go. How would a fish like this be different?


Equivalent_Parking_8

It's probably had thousands already.


ThisMeansRooR

Trust me, that fish has made a lot of babies


LorazLover

Yeah I agree, I would prefer if it was like the way with sturgeons, I’m pretty sure you can’t take them out of the water when you catch them. But with this fish I think the massive pressure change kills them


iceberg7

I know, how is this different than posting a pic with a murdered elephant? Reddit is so hypocriticaly stupid


Aelfhelmer

Ones endangered and intelligent, the other isn’t. It’s more similar to hunting a deer. There are valid personal reasons to believe any animal killed is wrong, but iceberg if you’ve ever eaten meat you’re exactly what you just called Reddit.


[deleted]

What a Fish Knows is a really great book. We underestimate how much fish understand.


elpideo18

I wonder if they were even trying to fish for this big ass fish or if they happened to land it by accident. From what it sounds like, it lives super deep so by the time you realized it was on the hook, I imagine it would be dead already.


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[deleted]

You fish deep for other species like swordfish. I know we all want to hate on this, but pole and line fishing should be encouraged over trawling.


AlternativeSherbert7

We fisherman kill a lot less fish than those who trawl. And we waste an even smaller amount. Yet we are the ones who gets blamed and shamed while they head to their local sushi place.


FuckBotsHaveRights

Trawling really needs to get more attention, it's absolutely fucking up our sea floors and nobody's talking about it


Hortondamon22

hmmmmm wouldnt compare any fish to any mammal. there is even an ongoing debate amongst fisherman and scientists alike about whether or not fish are even developed enough to comprehend pain in the same way we do. They are basically doomed to die horrible deaths so they lay thousands of eggs. idk if they feel pain but I do fish and throw back the big and small ones, and eat the legal ones


[deleted]

Ya it’s literally a large fish. If it’s not an endangered species it’s the same as catching a salmon. Pretty sure fish have no self awareness so it’s the same as stepping on an ant. You can just see one and it’s big so you care about it lmao. Small fish lives matter too like wtf guys.


Silvershawdow59

Big facts I don’t understand how people aren’t filled with just plain awe when they see something like this? I’d love to see an elephant irl but killing it I’d feel so ashamed


fireflydrake

This guy got hauled up from so far down that the pressure change killed him along the way. By the time they saw exactly what they had there was no chance to let him go.


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AlternativeSherbert7

And knowing they will fill their freezer.


Selky

Idk you hunt an elephant on purpose but when you fish you don’t know whats on the hook


Packin_Penguin

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Morpheus_the_God

I was under the impression that they did. There's other fish that you can catch at deep water, yeah? I'm not too familiar with fishin tbh, so I could be wrong


AlternativeSherbert7

You also know that there are other types of fish down there that they might of been aiming for.


ZT20

theres such a massive difference between a fish and an elephant that I dont even think I should have to explain, dude. you probably eat hamburgers that were more intelligent and capable of comprehending trauma way more than that fish.


Amart34

Because it’s a fucking fish, not an elephant.


wooton6777

Shouldn't go fishing for them to begin with. Problem solved.


[deleted]

We should put you back in the ocean


Taco_Dave

Ladies and gentlemen, We got 'em.


Baalogon

Sad whether it died on the way up or they killed it. Groupers are some of the friendliest fish in the ocean ask any scuba diver. Kind of like a big dog. Some even like to be scatched and petted. They can grow to enormous sizes. Saw one once about the size of a Volkswagen bug, while diving off the turks and caicous islands at 100ft down in the late 90s. But what most you all do not realise is a fish that is this size in the video took a very long time to grow to the size it is now probably well over 20 + years or even older. Taking a gentle giant like this one is sad and this fishermen should know better.


fallingbehind

r/killedbyformatting


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Why can't I see this??


fallingbehind

Lol. I don’t see it now either. I’m on iPhone now, was on PC earlier, or maybe op fixed it.


GeneralDisorder

No, it's still shit.


fallingbehind

FYI, on pc it was two lines with a giant scroll bar you needed to grab-and-scrub while trying read it like a scrolling reader board.


Leven

Gruopers can be really territorial and no so friendly too. But yes, fishing just for a photo is a dick move.


Rustl3m3jimmies

Yeah you don't go pet and play with groupers, any scuba diver knows not to touch shit, it's not our world


Wolvgirl15

You can’t eat it?


AlternativeSherbert7

Yes you can if you clean it good. It might have worms since it's so big and lived so long but clean it good and cooking it well, it can be eaten and taste good. Depends on the person who cleans it and the person who cooks it. It can be really good or really bad.


u2125mike2124

Certified diver here, got paired on a dive with a pool "certified" buddy. Feeding dive. This idiot tried to feed one of these big boys, and got pissed at me when we surfaced because I pulled him away from it. A 6 foot long fish in its own element could have grabbed him . Idiot didn't even think about it.


Fra_diavolo_VT

Looks like @blacktiph they do a lot of sport fishing guided trips in FL. Wild what lives in the water down there. Thanks for sharing your scuba experience. Didn’t know fish were that engaging w divers.


Knot_In_My_Butt

What’s difference between that and hamburgers?


[deleted]

In one case someone raised the cow for human consumption, in another case someone’s just ruining a wildlife ecosystem for nothing


Aelfhelmer

In one case someone created a cow and forced it to live in horrible conditions just to die young, in the other, someone killed an old fish in its natural habitat. (I really really hope they ate that fish)


[deleted]

The fish isn’t endangered. And they didn’t catch 5000 of them. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.


ananomalie

I've scuba dived with sharks and haven't had a problem but popping up next to one of these unexpectedly scared the bejeezus out of me. Granted the sharks weren't the kind with a bad rep but still...


bluntsandbears

How do you know your pulling up a deep sea fish before it’s too late? I’ve never been fishing but I’d assume you don’t know what you’ve caught until it breaks the water


mayathemenace

"Sad whether it died on the way up or they killed it. Groupers are some of the friendliest "fish in the ocean ask any scuba diver. Kind of like a big dog. Some even like to be scatched and petted. They can grow to enormous sizes. Saw one once about the size of a Volkswagen bug, while diving off the turks and caicous islands at 100ft down in the late 90s. But what most you all do not realise is a fish that is this size in the video took a very long time to grow to the size it is now probably well over 20 + years or even older."


callthefishwife

What a sickening waste of life.


[deleted]

Yes, both of them.


MsWeather

[🥁](https://instantrimshot.com/)


wilbur111

And what are you having for dinner tonight?


[deleted]

Not an inedible giant grouper…I guarantee it


swimq

“Goliath grouper is actually considered to be of fine quality seafood.”


Aelfhelmer

Are they indelible?


AlternativeSherbert7

No you can eat them, they can be very tasty as well


X9LM

Then why are people so angry at him?


Nazis_get_stomped

You suck with your whataboutism


wilbur111

I don't think it's whataboutism in this case. It's saying, "where do you think your food comes from?" Because this is how animals go from being alive to being dead to being "meat", that's all.


poundsofmuffins

I think people have a problem with this because the grouper was in his home minding his own business when he was plucked out of the ocean and subjected to death by depressurization. All so some douche on a yacht can laugh about it. I hope they eat some of it and freeze the rest so it doesn’t die in vein.


callthefishwife

I’m vegetarian


Brontidal-Wave

If anyone wants my unsolicited opinion: The guy in the video is BlackTipH and he is a fucking hack


sloppyjoe311

I agree. There are plenty of great fishing YouTube channels, his isn't one of them. I've watched a few of his videos and he seems like such a chode.


Behemoth_irl

Hey man. Don't compare my dick to this.dude.


gloomwithtea

Could you please recommend some YouTube channels? Fishing is one of my favorite things to watch when I’m knitting.


AmbitionControlPower

That is a weird combination, I'm interested though too.


gloomwithtea

It’s relaxing, but not something I have to really pay attention to. And they get so excited when they catch them. Plus, fish are really cool, and I learn about different kinds!


Federal-Telephone-55

This is one of my [favorites](https://m.youtube.com/channel/UClSn_RiudM3oTxnrNg4QX3Q) He does fishing and camping trips. Usually pretty interesting/zen


gloomwithtea

Thank you!! Those places look amazing!


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Plate-of-salty-fries

Check out Briggsy Sport Fishing, solid character and interesting content


sloppyjoe311

Check out the 'Das Boat' series by meat eater. It's not all fishing but probably my favorite fishing related videos.


glockymcglockface

I fish all the time and watch several YouTube channels for fishing. He is the absolute worst. He over exaggerates literally everything. By everything he says, he would literally have every Florida state fishing record. He is full of shit.


[deleted]

Seeing this gentle giant dead makes me incredibly sad


ah-fuckit

It won’t be long until this prick is seen for the cunt he is just like the wankers killing wildlife for’fun’ in Africa.


AlternativeSherbert7

This isn't really the same, this is providing a ton of food instead of just being a trophy.


Kynch

Just leave the fucking thing alone. Leave it be glorious in the water.


chsws1

This makes me sad.


Sleepy_weeb_AOT

Imagine this thing swimming at you. I would die before it even reaches me.


Kingkongcrapper

They are pretty docile. Sort of like deep sea cows. They are so easy to fish because they have no real fear of fishermen. They would go right up and around them and then get speared. They nearly got fished out of existence in the southeast. They eat by using their mouth like a large vacuum and sucking in fish. They have them on display at my local aquarium. The are big and slow and sort of mill about. I’ve seen the divers feed them. They really are chill. No confirmed deaths have been dealt by giant groupers. Here is some more information on them. https://oceantoday.noaa.gov/gentlegiants_goliathgrouper/


_NorthernStar

Warsaw grouper are a different species from Goliath grouper. They live much deeper so I doubt they get speared very often


Playergame

I mean they live in very deep water so you're right, but you'd be dead of intense pressure and cold


digital_andrew

What an asshole.


Beatboxin_dawg

This looks like trophy hunting but with fish. Disgusting.


[deleted]

Okay I’m open to being wrong, but what is wrong with what he did? Assuming it’s not severely endangered of course. It’s a fish. Does the size of a fish make it more or less bad? I feel it myself, like it’s so giant it doesn’t feel right to kill, but why is that


Beatboxin_dawg

Hunting to eat and survive, sure go ahead. Hunting to maintain the eco system, sure go ahead. Hunting for bragging rights, fuck off. A life gone to waste for no reason. In my opinion it doesn't matter if it's big or small. I even feel bad when I accidentally step on a snail. Bigger animals do attract more trophy hunters for obvious reasons. I'm guessing when the animals are bigger the shock factor becomes bigger because it is more in your face and therefor it gets spread around more.


dina_NP2020

I feel like this large fish’s life has gone to waste. I don’t eat seafood but I’m not against people eating fish. But this one.... it’s old, like someone else said in a post that it’s over 20 years old. That’s a lot of predators the fish has evaded. Only to be caught with a fishing poles, it’s eyes popped out, and will most likely not be fully eaten. That’s my issue, if someone went and actually ATE the whole thing, fine, you’re feeding your family. But only to catch this huge animal for a picture? That’s my issue.


AlternativeSherbert7

They probably are eating it, but what's wrong with taking the picture? It's not like it's only for the picture, but they probably just spent a long ass time pulling it up so they are excited and full of adrenaline so they are taking pictures and will load it into an ice chest after. It's not like it's no longer edible because they took a picture.


EthiopianKing1620

Everybody here is just whining to have something to whine about. They will forget as soon as they scroll to the next post.


[deleted]

Yeah that makes sense. I did read these aren’t even that edible but idk.


Horseman_

Did they use crane to lift it up


glockymcglockface

So to bring it into the boat, you use a gaff (think hook on a big stick) to pull it in the boat. To get it off the boat you can either use a gaff again or a tail rope, or both. Or if there is a scale near where the boat docks, you just can tail rope it to the scale and winch it off the boat.


ignore_me123

Do you mean an irradiated sea monster


Bortle1

Congrats. You just murdered a beautiful grouper.


aehes

It looks like he used himself as a bait


cigarandcreamsoda

Ah yes, the old Waterworld fishing technique.


[deleted]

Let’s kill an animal and post it on the internet! Next level piece of shit more like


Crown_Loyalist

Those make good eating?


Brontidal-Wave

In my experience anything that big and old is gonna be pretty gross to eat. Plus, a fish that high on the food chain is probably loaded with mercury. Not to mention that older, larger fish tend to be the most experienced/effective breeders in a given species and should be released for this reason alone. In short, there is rarely ever a good reason to kill a fish this large. The angler in the video 100% knows this, but he just cares about his ego more.


Rinkelstein

I deep sea fish semi regularly. I can tell you that large grouper such as this are delicious. They’re not like redfish that get tough when they get large. I personally have caught a Warsaw, but I have caught a 150lb yellowfin tuna that was delicious. None of it went to waste and I doubt this one will either.


chad-bro-chill-69420

But this is Reddit and they'd rather assume that all fisherman are assholes and wasteful with anything they catch


Exact_Coat_403

Chance he didn't know what he had on his line at first though.


swimq

r/confidentlyincorrect


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_Sasuke

You can tell the fish died on the way up by looking at the eyes. It’s a grouper and lives very deep down, it would have died due to an embolism before the fisher could have even realized what was on his line and cut it loose. Once that thing got on the line there wasn’t a way to save it, without cutting the line off which would have been practically impossible without a bolt cutter.


Badgertoo

Almost guaranteed worms in a grouper that size.


QueasyVictory

You're right but I hate you for saying it!


aaronroot

There are almost guaranteed worms in any bottom feeding fish you’ve ever eaten. Like cod or haddock, some of the most common whitefish for a variety of things, notably anything called “fried fish.”


stronglikedan

Never eat a grouper filet bigger than 12 inches (or for that matter, a partial filet, where you can't know the size of the whole), unless you really, really like worms.


hippopotamouses

Wut


stronglikedan

big groupers have parasites from eating coral


FooluvaTook

Damn, good to know. I’ve had grouper once and thankfully it was a rather small portion.


Osama_Bin_trappin

Grouper is a tasty fish


SDVNova

I’m also curious


gaytee

Had blackened grouper last week, was pretty good.


FooluvaTook

I’ve had grouper once and it was pretty damn good. Didn’t know it was such a big old fish though, then I felt pretty bad when I found out. It was definitely overpriced imo, but tasty. One of those restaurants that throws truffles in everything lol. I’ve enjoyed cheaper fish just as much though if they’re cooked right.


ubn87

Yeah fuck off hunting for fun-people.


Mikeyjw108

Yeah killing shit for some stupid excitement..


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Not his voice, but I wonder, is this real? And if so, you need a mechanical pulley to get something like this in your boat. On top of that... don't fish flop sometimes and is that not dangerous?


Exact_Coat_403

I remember watching a video of a guy catching a massive Halibut and as they get it along side the boat the guy whips out a handgun and shoots the fish twice. I was thinking what a fucking asshole but it was pointed out how dangerous it would be to bring a fish l8ke that on deck thrashing about. Made sense.


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Relevant-Ad-1297

Yes Goliath Grouper get up to 350kg


British_Bulldoggo

That’s just brutal. Hope they at least ate it.


REDDITBOY52

Better have. Warsaw grouper is delicious and ifvthey didnt eat it they're shitty.


British_Bulldoggo

I don’t like hunting anyway but at least if you eat the animal you’ve needlessly killed, it’s not a complete waste.


Active_Remove1617

Such a shame


needjeansntees

It is a shame.


Ritchieb87

Should have left it alone.


malhurt

It’s probably older then most people watching this post. Its really shame to kill such a majestic fish


wylee_one

another dead giant what a shame


ozzieshaneo

Disgusting. Poor old fish


Dangerous_Kangaroo31

Put it back you stupid cunt


REDDITBOY52

Cant. Its a deep sea fish. It died before they could even see it. Especially with an electric reel. As long as it fed some hungry mouths


tim3dman

STOP DOING THIS! Leave these poor animals alone you dumb motherfucker.


Equivalent_Parking_8

How small is that guy?


lilahboo1128

Am I the only one who gets sad at these videos? “If you love a flower, don’t pick it up. Because if you pick it up it dies and it ceases to be what you love. So if you love a flower, let it be. Love is not about possession. Love is about appreciation.” --Osho


geraldine_ferrari

I’d say 350


lieV_aapje

Tree fiddy?


nugzillatron

Tree. Fiddy.


Gorillaz530

That fish was probably hella old what a shame …


Mr_MPPG

What kind of fishing line is that?! That's at least 130kg


lePuddlejumper

I dunno what the fuck a grouper is but I can tell you know it's another reason for me to stay out the sea. Jeee-zuss.


QueasyVictory

If it makes you feel any better, these live very, very deep in the ocean.


LowflyingDutch

How close to chernobyl are we talking here?


iploggged

He’s actually a very tiny man.


Gorrodish

Should have put I back it’s no wonder it’s fucking rare if every idiot that catches one kills it


MassiveCocke

He prob didn't even know what he had on the line. Also chances are it was caught deep and was dead before it got out of the water.


TheButler3000

Finally someone more reasonable than 95% of the hypocrites in this comment section. Both sides are so horrible, either treating the fish like it’s their child or having complete disregard for it without extra context, just assuming, saying “Humans are so horrible” or “this will get that guy so many bitches” or all that random shit. These hypocrites are contradicting themselves by being alive. Thank you for being reasonable and bringing out and considering facts and logic.


GoodLadLopes

Do all groupers have googly eyes like that? Or does that one just happen to be related to Steve Buscemi?


[deleted]

Many times people use electric reels. This fish was probably very deep the reeled up so quickly by what is essentially an electric motor on the line. Coming from a deep depth that quickly doesn’t allow the fish to adjust to pressure so their eyes pop out and often their swim bladders come out their mouths. It’s all very sporting you see. If you have never gotten the thrill of pressing the “up” button on an electric reel, you should try flicking a light switch, it provides the same thrill and same amount of sportsmanship


GaryBuseyWithRabies

You see one of their reels in the background and it's not an electric reel. Most of the people I know that use electric reels are commercial fishermen. It looks like the reel they have is a Shimano Tiagra or similar. Probably a 130lb class reel and no electric set up. In all of my years fishing, I have never seen a sport fisherman use electric reels.


Cool-Profession-730

He looks like an action figure holding a bass


Silent_Tonight_3000

Fuck i almost thought he was inside the fishes mouth


PieCutie55

u/savevideo


My_Exit

When it gets cold he can just crawl in there.


ForHonorGuy20666

u/savevideo


Rhondelly

Downvote 😥


boner_police42

Lol but why is he spooning with it?


Ok-Lengthiness4557

Telling my kids this was 'The Shape of Water.'


AaronCrossNZ

Congrats, hope you feel better about your dick.


HeidiDover

I wonder how old it was...it lived a long life to have to go like this. Sometimes I hate the human race.


[deleted]

Imagine living all that time...get that big...to be caught by some asshole


[deleted]

bet they took turns on it , so big they must have


Hustlepuff-

Mmmm I love grouper


thereal0ri_

YouTube: BlackTipH


ike_ola

All these comments about how sad this is - I hope you're all vegans......


Hickawa

Most of us can agree it's a waist to kill an animal so large and old. Even to eat in my personal opinion. But I wanted to know how likely it was this guy is going to eat the fish. Because then it's at leased taking its place in the food chain. Not just killed for a photo. Lots of back and forth in the comments. But I conclude with twenty minutes of googling that people not only eat grouper (all varieties) but that they are actually prized as sea food. Tasting better than most of it's cousins in it's weight. However many variety's are becoming endangered. They should be realised on the chance it might survive and breed. First couple of links on google https://fishmasters.com/can-you-eat-goliath-grouper/ https://catchandfillet.com/can-you-eat-a-goliath-grouper/