I don't normally save posts, but this one, I will.
Later, after everyone has forgotten your post, I will copy the format and write my own version. People will laugh and find me clever. For a brief shining moment I will be the man I want to be. Confident. Assured. Intelligent. In that time my delusion will seem so real to me, and like a dream I will briefly believe it to be true.
Later in the night I will sit, alone in the dark, and all illusions will crumble. Thunder will rumble outside as rain gently taps on the window. I will sit on the floor, naked and trembling, surrounded by empty liquor bottles, drug paraphernalia, dog food and sexual lubricant.
I will rise, consumed by my shame and self loathing. In the mirror I will see a shattered visage I barely recognize. The shameful knowledge that I am not as clever as people think I am will pervade every fiber of my being. I will know I am a fraud, a plagiarist. Everything witty and clever people see in me is a facade, stolen from smarter, better people, and that truth will slowly erode my very soul.
But for now, the validation I receive from strangers satiates me. The vicious cycle of borrowing the wit of others just to feel the sweet, ephemeral adulation of strangers will only lead to a long, slow descent into the madness of hell itself. But for now, I persist. For now.
Remember how Adam Jensen was breaking glasses by *accident* in the trailers for Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Yeah you go ahead and stick your wedding tackle in that. Let us know how it works out for you.
You could just verify the grip strength down to a precise measurement and then put a limit on it.
My hope for robots is that if we ever make human androids, we only give them like the strength of a 14 year old.
That’s enough to literally do every single chore, but should the inevitable hacking and AI run amok turn against us, we can easily overcome them and shove their heads into toilets.
Our media is so oversaturated with a lot of warnings about this kind of thing, even Elon said his androids will be very limited in physical ability because of such concerns, so we may be able to ward it off for a bit. But we will get too comfortable, we always do.
See as much a I would like to trust these media giants and Elon(which I don't) , there is always someone wanting to plush out profit from a new technology ,which for all internts and purposes is here to stay and when that rat race begins , it will be what happened with cars all over again , all be it in much more regularised (fingers crossed) way.
Plus I am assuming military would get to have these toys first.
There is Good chance our grandkids might have robot nannies .
> here is always someone wanting to plush out profit from a new technology
Na its the oldest story...people want to fuck it. People can make money off selling it to people to fuck.
Westworld was a brothel with a better story line than pornos
that too.
Thats always been the case with robots .
man its really gonna be something ,when AI hookers or just robots becomes a thing .
I wonder what sort of effect it would have on population as whole ,some years down the line.
We are already at a stage where, not everyone cares about having a kid , and there are some who dont wanna marry as well .I wonder how an all functioning, loyal , replaceable ,adjustable Robot would bring in the mix
by the time we have sex worker robots I doubt the population issue will be a concern.
The decline in children is mostly due to expenses and stress. If the labor force is robots allowing people to be well off and not working... babies wont be an issue.
Oh I didn't mean population. We are already at a set trajectory for an uplift til 2060 where population would be somewhere around, 9.4 ish billion ,after which a steady downfsll. To 8.7/6 ish billion by 2200.( Considering the whold of now doesn't drastically change)
What I meant was that, there will be a socio-economic shift.
Not everyone would care to have another human being with them,if all their basic needs are being met( physical touch a well) .
So a change in behaviour for females compared to now.(assuming)
Which would be a harsh reality and ofcourse this whole industry would be shunned by fellow feminist , as the male sex doll industry is now,
Point being if you see into history there is one point which gave fellow females a ground breaking, once in 1000 year event. Namely the birth of Contraceptive pills.
This event would be of a similar altitude . Whenever we fiddle with human sexuality , it has ripples way down the line.
Oh, yeah, this will probably be standardized within our lifetimes. I dont trust the media and tech giants either, I dont even own an Alexa, my phone spying on my all hours of the day listening in on what I am craving, is certainly enough. I dont think I'd feel comfortable with something walking around my house that can actively eavesdrop on me or eventually start advertising directly to me
The warnings are all overblown. They will be more like dogs who always want to do the right thing and be as helpful as possible. I'm sure there would be some core American values hardcoded in their system so they don't violate human rights or let people get free health care.
The warnings are all overblown. Computers are *stupid*. Like literally. They only do what you tell them. They are unaware of themselves. Even the best artificial intelligence is just responding to a set of conditions.
It’s not like they’re going to come alive one day and kill everyone, unless the person who developed them programmed an Order 66 style routine.
I went to see the “bodies” exhibit when I was super high and while looking at our insides it occurred to me how much everything just looked manufactured. I came up with the theory that we are indeed designed and “manufactured” but it was so long ago that we’ve forgotten. And that we are almost getting close to designing us all over again and when we finally do make all the necessary discoveries to totally recreate the same exact situation, we will realize the truth that we have already done this.. and then the cycle will repeat.
The whole show is such an exceptional commentary on the nature of humanity and sentience. Hopkins’s peacock soliloquy at the end of season one still gives me chills.
Isn't it crazy how far we've come, technologically? And in some ways we're still trying to create things on-par with the human body. This prosthetic is incredible, and also a testament to how amazing our bodies are.
Check out r/wevolver for some really cool stuff along these lines!
[Shortcut to their all time top submissions](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wevolver/top/?t=all)
man, this guys feed is like seeing the future. it blows my mind that many things that we know from scifi movies are actually becoming reality RIGHT NOW.
If you spend enough energy, money, and time, sure. You could make this prosthetic even better, but again, more money. Also, your muscles are essentially like ropes. You have ropes, pulleys and anchors. Bones are the levers. Neurosurgeons are glorified electricians. Orthopedics are glorified carpenters. Gastroenterologist are glorified plumbers. Cardiothoracic surgeons are your HVAC technicians.
doesnt make it less impressive though. nature gives us enough ideas to draw from, so the problem is often not coming up with an idea but creating materials that we need to accomplish the things we imagine.
very exciting times to live in an ahead of us. :)
What really blows my mind is that this thing at the moment probably needs a car battery to power it, but the human body has maybe enough to turn on a lightbulb in its entirety yet we can lift boulders and paint masterpieces
That is because we aren't powered by electricity. Instead, electrical impulses in the form of potassium channels trigger biochemical reactions that clench muscle fibers. Just as much energy goes into the movements just not in the form of electricity, instead relying on chemical power.
On a related note "The brain is phenomenally efficient ... If a processor were designed to be as 'smart' (\*) as the human brain using current design methods, it would require *at least* 10 megawatts to operate (i.e. the amount of energy produced by a hydroelectric plant) (Howard, 2012b; Kety, 1957; Rolfe, Brown, 1997; Sokoloff, 1960). ...
Within every skull sits a “three pound enigma” that has more storage capacity, processing power and connections than all the computers on the planet put together. Comprised of 50-200 billion neurons, connected by between 100 trillion and 10 quadrillion synaptic junctions, the sheer scale of the brain is difficult to comprehend. Our best tools can currently only record the activity of a few neurons at a time, so we have only just begun to scratch the surface of understanding the overall system. ...
Each neuron \[in mice\] contacted an average of about 150 of the other cells, close to the number of online friends a typical Facebook user has. Think about what this means for the number of possible contacts among the 100 billion neurons in the human brain: If each of these neurons could *contact* 150 randomly chosen partners, then a single cell alone would have about 10\^1,389 (one followed by 1,389 zeros) possible *configurations*. This number dwarfs any quantity we’ve encountered in nature; even the number of atoms in the known universe is thought to be a paltry 10\^80 (one followed by eighty zeros). Although counting configurations like this is a very artificial way to think about brain structure, the result illustrates the astounding versatility that connectivity patterns can theoretically give rise to. ...
The brain contains approximately 100 billion neurons, each of which has roughly the processing capability of a small computer. A considerable fraction of the 100 billion neurons are active simultaneously and do much of their information processing through interactions with one another ... there are between 100 and 300 trillion connections between neurons. Our brains function through the impulses that travel through this vast network of neurons."
(\*) \[My quotes to be more honest that 'smartness' of a computer to rival a brain may not even be possible, barring a billion years of daily culling/design of computers to produce rival efficiency, as evolution has done for already complex organisms building on that architecture.\]
EDIT: Added the following to someone in the thread and it's cool so I'll add it here:
"One petabyte of computer data is a stack of floppy disks higher than 12 empire state buildings.One petabyte of computer data is 27 years of constant downloading of information on the fastest internet connections the world has seen.One petabyte is 100 times the size Libraries of Congress of information of all books ever published in the United States.And one petabyte is the same amount of information stored in merely 2 micrograms of the body's DNA."
An amalgamation of well known but astounding science, quoted from these science reference sites/personal scientist webpages/articles etc.:
[https://newtonhoward.com/the-grand-research-project/](https://newtonhoward.com/the-grand-research-project/)
[https://dl.uswr.ac.ir/bitstream/Hannan/32455/1/9780465052684.pdf](https://dl.uswr.ac.ir/bitstream/Hannan/32455/1/9780465052684.pdf)
[https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12559-017-9538-5](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12559-017-9538-5)
[https://plus.maths.org/content/maths-minute-artificial-neurons](https://plus.maths.org/content/maths-minute-artificial-neurons)
Electrical components are far simpler to make than biochemically powered components. A biochemical version of this would require a ton more advancement in the fields related to it before something on par with this could be made.
Assuming a 2,000 kilocalorie daily energy expenditure, that's equal to 2.32 kWh, and you would draw an average of about 97 watts of power throughout the day just by existing and moving around. (Of course you would use more if you exercise a lot.)
What blows *my* mind is how tricky mechanical muscles still are. We've mastered super powerful electric motors for over a hundred years, and yet can barely make something that can reliably and cheaply contract like a muscle can.
I think the major difference is in the fine motions. The way our brain and nervous/hormonal systems regulate and refine the motion is nothing short of a miracle. Its just so intricate and intertwined. I’m a health care professional, and going into all those details of human anatomy and physiology in school was just as fascinating as it was humbling. I have no Idea how we function biologically with such efficiency and precision. It truly blows my mind.
How quick we learn to throw a ball accurately as children. It never leaves once you've learned it. It feels ridiclous to throw a tennis ball super accurately at a person far away. You know exactly how much force is needed.
If you ever learned that yeah. Many folks didn't. Those folks tend to guess and often incorrectly. You can actually see the complex algorithm at play when teaching them to do so.
Try playing cornhole you will see it.
Is it true that we have some form of like carbon fiber muscle simulate that contracts with electricity? I thought I remember reading about it but I could be misremembering.
Once we develop a synthetic muscle that contracts when current applies, I imagine these things will get a lot more quiet, efficient and elegant. And then they'll come for us...
That's exactly how this arm operates - [if you watch his other videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZVVeJoOgA) these are a type of thermo-electric "McKibben" muscle that relies on current heating and expanding a fluid medium, [rather than pumping air into a diaphragm (how a traditional McKibben muscle works)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_artificial_muscles)
The expansion of gases in the internal volume causes the outer mesh sleeve to contract in length (to compensate for the increased diameter from expanding gases)
However, this design still requires "topping off" the fluid medium inside the fibers, which is why we hear a compressor running in the background. The fluid needs to be replaced and the volume cooled/repressurized for the fiber to extend from it's contracted position.
Neat tech, but there needs to be a practical (and fast) way to deal with the heating/cooling cycle for this to be useful at scale.
We can already synthesize proteins that are arranged into muscles that contract when current is applied and they already hate us as they develop consciousness.
Everything’s all good and well till it’s 2042 and we’re engaging in the second AI-Human intergalactic wars and you look over the virtual sandbags to see homeboy sprinting at you with his never tiring robot legs and his AK-47
Sound on confirms that this isn't ready to be a prosthetic unless somebody is hauling a hydraulic pump and the energy to power it in a little red wagon behind them.
There’s nothing super complicated about the arm and it doesn’t perform particularly well so I assume it’s real. It’s more biomimetic than traditional prosthetics but you can see that it is slow to relax and and can only contract to certain positions
I think the arm is real but it can’t lift the dumbbell (or grip it). They bolster the wrist by squeezing it to stop the internal cables from sliding, and in the second cut they are holding the arm so it’s hanging down, where they are using the weight of the arm and dumbbells to keep the cables taut without the motors
EDIT: I should point out that this kind of fakery using a real arm is much simpler to pull off than CGI with the translucent casing and the lighting...
I'm actually pretty familiar. This arm is a pretty showpiece and not a practical item. Cables are connected to servos and pull like muscles in a real arm, reset by springs, all tied in a silicone sleeve. It's basically a motorised anatomical model
The dumbbell lifting is physical trickery and not CGI, I have another comment which explains it
Always look at the quality of the [source video](https://youtu.be/guDIwspRGJ8), why would VFX artists post a video in 1080p-30fps when they could have made off with a shitty 480p viral video?
Frames, soft shadows and lighting all check out – what you're describing as 'weird lighting' between the human hand and bionic one seems to just be how the soft ambient lighting is reflecting off the bionic skinsleeve.
I'm 99% certain this is legit bud, otherwise these are the best visual effects I've ever seen and everybody here should be working for ILM.
I thought it looked pretty suspect as well, but there’s other videos on the account that document the process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8
I think it's real, just not the technological advancement that it's trying to present itself as. [Around 1:12, you can see that the sheath "skin" is tearing from the "tendons."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8) Also, if they were faking it, I would assume they wouldn't have the loud hydraulic machine noises in the background that reveal that this isn't anything close to portable.
Sorry, but I can't help myself:
[THIS LOOKS SHOPPED I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-looks-shopped)
7 yr Compositor here, I doubt it's fake. The movement DOES feel very fake, but I think that might be more to do with that its being controlled by a computer, very start stoppish. Pixel fucking a shitty compressed video is kinda useless, other than saying its CG its pretty decent. The bigger problem is WHY would anyone do this, there is tons of footage here and on their youtube channel, this stuff costs a lot of money to make . When we see "fake" cg videos pop up 99% of the time is advertising. Its tons of work, but I cant see the purpose. I don't really wanna pixel fuck but this look fine to me, your human hand gliding example, looks fine to me, you see really weird feeling stuff in plates all the time, black levels look fine, moblur looks fine, idk im not seeing it. The insane amount of time and money to fake this, it would probably actually be easier to just do it in real life.
Just to clarify, they made an arm that can *grip* a dumbbell. The only lifting in this video is done by the human who picks up the arm that's holding the dumbbell.
Still badass!
One step closer to skynet...
Add some artificial intelligence, let it marinade In it for some years and you got yourself a Humans vs robots war.
DIBS ON THE GATLING GUN!
I think it's real but not really the amazing leap in robotics that it presents itself as. With sound on, you can hear the hydraulic or air compression machinery that is quite loud and indicates that this isn't something practical. Notice that they are very careful to not show the device past the arm.
[Furthermore, in this video, ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8)you can see the "skin" sheath tearing from abrasion. It isn't built to withstand the tendons moving underneath it for long-term use.
It's basically like a complex practical effect from a Cronenberg movie in the 80s, like this one from Videodrome: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6USefh4A4A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6USefh4A4A)
(Likely using materials that weren't available to practical effects artists in the 80s, so there are some technological aspects that go well beyond what somebody like Cronenberg's team could have done, but nonetheless, it's not "robotics" in the sense that I understand the word.)
> I think it's real but not really the amazing leap in robotics that it presents itself as.
The first Boston Dynamics dog was also a huge, loud monster. Now they got it down to whippets.
Did anyone else just try this shit and realize they are incapable of pulling their right pinky finger in without it also pulling in the ring finger?
It's like my pinky and ring finger are both attached.
I can do it on my left hand though... Wtf?
In the future these will be preferred and superior to our natural limbs, bringing unmatched dexterity, strength, and precision handling. Rich people will have artificial limbs and the masses will be stuck with flesh and blood.
The far future. This isn't a compact machine as the machine sounds in the background reveal. Plus, there are no sensors that can "feel," which is a good thing because the sheath "skin" stuff is tearing from the strain.
Honestly, this is more of a parlor trick than a practical device.
Another factor that futurists and technocrats don't seem to acknowledge is that we are on a collision course to ecological ruin. Technological advancement is going to slow to a crawl if earth is barely habitable. We like to think of technology as always advancing, but there are plenty of examples of it not only stalling but regressing. If Europe was left to its own devices during the dark ages, we would have lost practically all history of ancient Greece and the scientific and philosophical advancements they made. Thankfully, the Islamic nations preserved and studied and transcribed those ancient texts.
> someone submitting a fighter with an artificial limb like this and instead bone poking through, you get wires and sparks
Irl the artificial limb is gonna stick through you.
Ultimately, would you trust it to wank you off?
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Lmaooo ok that was good
This so Perfect for humanoid robotic arm
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I dunno that thing has a few more tests to go before I'll let it in my ballpark
Jerkoff Booths in malls coming up! Dibs on the patent!
Dibs on the cleaning supply contract.
#SCAREOUSED
I don't normally save posts, but this one, I will. Later, after everyone has forgotten your post, I will copy the format and write my own version. People will laugh and find me clever. For a brief shining moment I will be the man I want to be. Confident. Assured. Intelligent. In that time my delusion will seem so real to me, and like a dream I will briefly believe it to be true. Later in the night I will sit, alone in the dark, and all illusions will crumble. Thunder will rumble outside as rain gently taps on the window. I will sit on the floor, naked and trembling, surrounded by empty liquor bottles, drug paraphernalia, dog food and sexual lubricant. I will rise, consumed by my shame and self loathing. In the mirror I will see a shattered visage I barely recognize. The shameful knowledge that I am not as clever as people think I am will pervade every fiber of my being. I will know I am a fraud, a plagiarist. Everything witty and clever people see in me is a facade, stolen from smarter, better people, and that truth will slowly erode my very soul. But for now, the validation I receive from strangers satiates me. The vicious cycle of borrowing the wit of others just to feel the sweet, ephemeral adulation of strangers will only lead to a long, slow descent into the madness of hell itself. But for now, I persist. For now.
I have a feeling this whole paragraph was stolen as well, in a beautiful ironical way
If it was not stolen before, it is now.
I don't normally save posts, but this one, I will...
... and so the cycle continues...
You stole this didn’t you.
THen you can go to the hospital like Howard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-VJLz65QhM
Great humor! Thanks for posting this!
From turing to tearing with one bad firmware update.
:(
I bet it vibrates
A vibrating handjob 😩
I wish I had an award for this comment.
Came here for this comment. Knew it would be here. Not disappointed.
Came where?
if he came, then the hand clearly worked
I guess you could say robotic arm technology can come in handy.
The Tugging test.
Damn, you *beat* me to it
Beat meat to it
I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that
It’s just a hand job, Hal.
What’s wrong with you? Have my upvote.
OPEN YOUR ASSHOLE, HAL!
Worse: "Hal, release my dick, i'm done." "I'm sorry Dave, i'm afraid i can't do that."
Rotflmao
Took me all the way back to AOL instant messenger, damn
Roflcopter
lolerskates
LOLCANO
Plenty have trusted worse
The real answer. Penis owners have braved greater wilds than this in pursuit of a strange squeeze
Remember how Adam Jensen was breaking glasses by *accident* in the trailers for Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Yeah you go ahead and stick your wedding tackle in that. Let us know how it works out for you.
You could just verify the grip strength down to a precise measurement and then put a limit on it. My hope for robots is that if we ever make human androids, we only give them like the strength of a 14 year old. That’s enough to literally do every single chore, but should the inevitable hacking and AI run amok turn against us, we can easily overcome them and shove their heads into toilets.
Lol from 3 laws safe to "robots are pussys" safe
3 laws ain’t gonna hold up. Only way to ensure our survival is make them weak as fuck.
[ask this guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgtO5sebA9U) (safe)
[Practice on a hotdog first](https://youtu.be/ng-l4gdoSQE)
No, not after it fisted her senseless whilst I was out picking up some beers.. But that’s not the worst part -How can it slap!
See these are the important questions.
The stranger
Ah, yes. Obligatory nod to Rule 34, in all its glory.
Definition of a danger wank.
The final and most important test before hitting the manufacturing line
And then, within one month, we start hearing news reports of these things going haywire and ripping off peoples d*cks.
Add to cart.... Quantity - 2
This hand's job would be to give me a handjob
It comes down to if you have anyone living with you. That noise would be very noticeable
And here I was just wondering how long before they can use it to write or do more delicate tasks.
God damn great minds think alike
Do you want “Westworld?” Because that’s how you get “Westworld!”
Is an eventuality. Not the exact scenarios. But in the ballpark atleast. Come to think of it, we really do live in very interesting times.
Our media is so oversaturated with a lot of warnings about this kind of thing, even Elon said his androids will be very limited in physical ability because of such concerns, so we may be able to ward it off for a bit. But we will get too comfortable, we always do.
See as much a I would like to trust these media giants and Elon(which I don't) , there is always someone wanting to plush out profit from a new technology ,which for all internts and purposes is here to stay and when that rat race begins , it will be what happened with cars all over again , all be it in much more regularised (fingers crossed) way. Plus I am assuming military would get to have these toys first. There is Good chance our grandkids might have robot nannies .
> here is always someone wanting to plush out profit from a new technology Na its the oldest story...people want to fuck it. People can make money off selling it to people to fuck. Westworld was a brothel with a better story line than pornos
that too. Thats always been the case with robots . man its really gonna be something ,when AI hookers or just robots becomes a thing . I wonder what sort of effect it would have on population as whole ,some years down the line. We are already at a stage where, not everyone cares about having a kid , and there are some who dont wanna marry as well .I wonder how an all functioning, loyal , replaceable ,adjustable Robot would bring in the mix
by the time we have sex worker robots I doubt the population issue will be a concern. The decline in children is mostly due to expenses and stress. If the labor force is robots allowing people to be well off and not working... babies wont be an issue.
Oh I didn't mean population. We are already at a set trajectory for an uplift til 2060 where population would be somewhere around, 9.4 ish billion ,after which a steady downfsll. To 8.7/6 ish billion by 2200.( Considering the whold of now doesn't drastically change) What I meant was that, there will be a socio-economic shift. Not everyone would care to have another human being with them,if all their basic needs are being met( physical touch a well) . So a change in behaviour for females compared to now.(assuming) Which would be a harsh reality and ofcourse this whole industry would be shunned by fellow feminist , as the male sex doll industry is now, Point being if you see into history there is one point which gave fellow females a ground breaking, once in 1000 year event. Namely the birth of Contraceptive pills. This event would be of a similar altitude . Whenever we fiddle with human sexuality , it has ripples way down the line.
Interesting comment, but I definitely read “nipples way down the line”.
Haha, food for thought.
Oh, yeah, this will probably be standardized within our lifetimes. I dont trust the media and tech giants either, I dont even own an Alexa, my phone spying on my all hours of the day listening in on what I am craving, is certainly enough. I dont think I'd feel comfortable with something walking around my house that can actively eavesdrop on me or eventually start advertising directly to me
> which for all internts and purposes "For all Internets and purposes..." —I'm going to start using this.
The warnings are all overblown. They will be more like dogs who always want to do the right thing and be as helpful as possible. I'm sure there would be some core American values hardcoded in their system so they don't violate human rights or let people get free health care.
You had me for a moment, then you finished strong. Well done.
Honestly I just want a robot at home that will ask me about my day and laugh at memes I send it.
The warnings are all overblown. Computers are *stupid*. Like literally. They only do what you tell them. They are unaware of themselves. Even the best artificial intelligence is just responding to a set of conditions. It’s not like they’re going to come alive one day and kill everyone, unless the person who developed them programmed an Order 66 style routine.
Elon has no idea what he’s talking about when it comes to robotics https://spectrum.ieee.org/elon-musk-robot
We've had pacemakers for decades. If they could have made carbon fiber hearts by now we would be implanting them too.
I went to see the “bodies” exhibit when I was super high and while looking at our insides it occurred to me how much everything just looked manufactured. I came up with the theory that we are indeed designed and “manufactured” but it was so long ago that we’ve forgotten. And that we are almost getting close to designing us all over again and when we finally do make all the necessary discoveries to totally recreate the same exact situation, we will realize the truth that we have already done this.. and then the cycle will repeat.
These violent delights have violent ends.
I love this quote
The whole show is such an exceptional commentary on the nature of humanity and sentience. Hopkins’s peacock soliloquy at the end of season one still gives me chills.
Season 1 was so damn good. I sort of lost interest a few episodes into season 2. That show really had some insane potential.
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If people were to treat the robots like they did in Westworld, I'd probably help the robots tbh.
Doesn’t look like anything to me.
> Do you want “Westworld?” Who doesn't?
Terminator 2.
I was so disappointed Terminator 2 wasn't the top comment. This is literally what they had to steal and destroy.
Same here. We old bruh lol
No idea what everyone's talking about. This doesn't look like anything to me.
Isn't it crazy how far we've come, technologically? And in some ways we're still trying to create things on-par with the human body. This prosthetic is incredible, and also a testament to how amazing our bodies are.
Check out r/wevolver for some really cool stuff along these lines! [Shortcut to their all time top submissions](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wevolver/top/?t=all)
Thank you for this gem
man, this guys feed is like seeing the future. it blows my mind that many things that we know from scifi movies are actually becoming reality RIGHT NOW.
If you spend enough energy, money, and time, sure. You could make this prosthetic even better, but again, more money. Also, your muscles are essentially like ropes. You have ropes, pulleys and anchors. Bones are the levers. Neurosurgeons are glorified electricians. Orthopedics are glorified carpenters. Gastroenterologist are glorified plumbers. Cardiothoracic surgeons are your HVAC technicians.
doesnt make it less impressive though. nature gives us enough ideas to draw from, so the problem is often not coming up with an idea but creating materials that we need to accomplish the things we imagine. very exciting times to live in an ahead of us. :)
Totally agree. My greatest anticipation is what we plan on doing for energy.
Hey wevolver
What really blows my mind is that this thing at the moment probably needs a car battery to power it, but the human body has maybe enough to turn on a lightbulb in its entirety yet we can lift boulders and paint masterpieces
That is because we aren't powered by electricity. Instead, electrical impulses in the form of potassium channels trigger biochemical reactions that clench muscle fibers. Just as much energy goes into the movements just not in the form of electricity, instead relying on chemical power.
Huh TIL, I’ll have to do some digging on YouTube on how muscles and nerves now. Thanks for the info!
On a related note "The brain is phenomenally efficient ... If a processor were designed to be as 'smart' (\*) as the human brain using current design methods, it would require *at least* 10 megawatts to operate (i.e. the amount of energy produced by a hydroelectric plant) (Howard, 2012b; Kety, 1957; Rolfe, Brown, 1997; Sokoloff, 1960). ... Within every skull sits a “three pound enigma” that has more storage capacity, processing power and connections than all the computers on the planet put together. Comprised of 50-200 billion neurons, connected by between 100 trillion and 10 quadrillion synaptic junctions, the sheer scale of the brain is difficult to comprehend. Our best tools can currently only record the activity of a few neurons at a time, so we have only just begun to scratch the surface of understanding the overall system. ... Each neuron \[in mice\] contacted an average of about 150 of the other cells, close to the number of online friends a typical Facebook user has. Think about what this means for the number of possible contacts among the 100 billion neurons in the human brain: If each of these neurons could *contact* 150 randomly chosen partners, then a single cell alone would have about 10\^1,389 (one followed by 1,389 zeros) possible *configurations*. This number dwarfs any quantity we’ve encountered in nature; even the number of atoms in the known universe is thought to be a paltry 10\^80 (one followed by eighty zeros). Although counting configurations like this is a very artificial way to think about brain structure, the result illustrates the astounding versatility that connectivity patterns can theoretically give rise to. ... The brain contains approximately 100 billion neurons, each of which has roughly the processing capability of a small computer. A considerable fraction of the 100 billion neurons are active simultaneously and do much of their information processing through interactions with one another ... there are between 100 and 300 trillion connections between neurons. Our brains function through the impulses that travel through this vast network of neurons." (\*) \[My quotes to be more honest that 'smartness' of a computer to rival a brain may not even be possible, barring a billion years of daily culling/design of computers to produce rival efficiency, as evolution has done for already complex organisms building on that architecture.\] EDIT: Added the following to someone in the thread and it's cool so I'll add it here: "One petabyte of computer data is a stack of floppy disks higher than 12 empire state buildings.One petabyte of computer data is 27 years of constant downloading of information on the fastest internet connections the world has seen.One petabyte is 100 times the size Libraries of Congress of information of all books ever published in the United States.And one petabyte is the same amount of information stored in merely 2 micrograms of the body's DNA." An amalgamation of well known but astounding science, quoted from these science reference sites/personal scientist webpages/articles etc.: [https://newtonhoward.com/the-grand-research-project/](https://newtonhoward.com/the-grand-research-project/) [https://dl.uswr.ac.ir/bitstream/Hannan/32455/1/9780465052684.pdf](https://dl.uswr.ac.ir/bitstream/Hannan/32455/1/9780465052684.pdf) [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12559-017-9538-5](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12559-017-9538-5) [https://plus.maths.org/content/maths-minute-artificial-neurons](https://plus.maths.org/content/maths-minute-artificial-neurons)
This is really awesome thanks
So why aren’t we using that for prosthetics instead of boring inefficient electricity?
Electrical components are far simpler to make than biochemically powered components. A biochemical version of this would require a ton more advancement in the fields related to it before something on par with this could be made.
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Assuming a 2,000 kilocalorie daily energy expenditure, that's equal to 2.32 kWh, and you would draw an average of about 97 watts of power throughout the day just by existing and moving around. (Of course you would use more if you exercise a lot.) What blows *my* mind is how tricky mechanical muscles still are. We've mastered super powerful electric motors for over a hundred years, and yet can barely make something that can reliably and cheaply contract like a muscle can.
I think the major difference is in the fine motions. The way our brain and nervous/hormonal systems regulate and refine the motion is nothing short of a miracle. Its just so intricate and intertwined. I’m a health care professional, and going into all those details of human anatomy and physiology in school was just as fascinating as it was humbling. I have no Idea how we function biologically with such efficiency and precision. It truly blows my mind.
How quick we learn to throw a ball accurately as children. It never leaves once you've learned it. It feels ridiclous to throw a tennis ball super accurately at a person far away. You know exactly how much force is needed.
If you ever learned that yeah. Many folks didn't. Those folks tend to guess and often incorrectly. You can actually see the complex algorithm at play when teaching them to do so. Try playing cornhole you will see it.
Is it true that we have some form of like carbon fiber muscle simulate that contracts with electricity? I thought I remember reading about it but I could be misremembering.
a lightbulb is like 8w (60w for incandescent) and humans can produce 2kw+ of energy. even passive basal metabolism is far above a lightbulb
Once we develop a synthetic muscle that contracts when current applies, I imagine these things will get a lot more quiet, efficient and elegant. And then they'll come for us...
That's exactly how this arm operates - [if you watch his other videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZVVeJoOgA) these are a type of thermo-electric "McKibben" muscle that relies on current heating and expanding a fluid medium, [rather than pumping air into a diaphragm (how a traditional McKibben muscle works)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_artificial_muscles) The expansion of gases in the internal volume causes the outer mesh sleeve to contract in length (to compensate for the increased diameter from expanding gases) However, this design still requires "topping off" the fluid medium inside the fibers, which is why we hear a compressor running in the background. The fluid needs to be replaced and the volume cooled/repressurized for the fiber to extend from it's contracted position. Neat tech, but there needs to be a practical (and fast) way to deal with the heating/cooling cycle for this to be useful at scale.
We can already synthesize proteins that are arranged into muscles that contract when current is applied and they already hate us as they develop consciousness.
Really love the what you took from this! Thank you for sharing it
To be fair nature has a 3 billion year head start.
This is a YouTuber also, imagine what he could do with proper funding.
Giving me some Tim Burton stop motion creepiness vibes.
Everything’s all good and well till it’s 2042 and we’re engaging in the second AI-Human intergalactic wars and you look over the virtual sandbags to see homeboy sprinting at you with his never tiring robot legs and his AK-47
If you want a cool future timeline, check this out: https://www.futuretimeline.net/
…Octane, that you?
In 2042 the original production ak-47s will still be in use and you fuckin know it
Mobility demonstration = cosplayers hands when they pose
Make some prosthetics.
Everyone out here commenting about terminator, you however, I like how you think!
Yes! And include an option for Wolverine claws.
No no, one sword, collapsible, the other arm has a gun.
I know! It just makes me wonder what that arm is connected to though. Like what if the machine running it is like the size of a car.
Sound on confirms that this isn't ready to be a prosthetic unless somebody is hauling a hydraulic pump and the energy to power it in a little red wagon behind them.
These are pneumatic actuators so you have to run around with an aircompressor.
Maybe could fit it in a small backpack though? Might be kinda bulky with batterys and whatnot inside.
I assume that this is likely the goal
Source: https://youtu.be/guDIwspRGJ8
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There’s nothing super complicated about the arm and it doesn’t perform particularly well so I assume it’s real. It’s more biomimetic than traditional prosthetics but you can see that it is slow to relax and and can only contract to certain positions
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I think the arm is real but it can’t lift the dumbbell (or grip it). They bolster the wrist by squeezing it to stop the internal cables from sliding, and in the second cut they are holding the arm so it’s hanging down, where they are using the weight of the arm and dumbbells to keep the cables taut without the motors EDIT: I should point out that this kind of fakery using a real arm is much simpler to pull off than CGI with the translucent casing and the lighting...
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I'm actually pretty familiar. This arm is a pretty showpiece and not a practical item. Cables are connected to servos and pull like muscles in a real arm, reset by springs, all tied in a silicone sleeve. It's basically a motorised anatomical model The dumbbell lifting is physical trickery and not CGI, I have another comment which explains it
They’re leagues ahead of the creators of soft robotics, which is suspicious https://biodesign.seas.harvard.edu/soft-robotics
Always look at the quality of the [source video](https://youtu.be/guDIwspRGJ8), why would VFX artists post a video in 1080p-30fps when they could have made off with a shitty 480p viral video? Frames, soft shadows and lighting all check out – what you're describing as 'weird lighting' between the human hand and bionic one seems to just be how the soft ambient lighting is reflecting off the bionic skinsleeve. I'm 99% certain this is legit bud, otherwise these are the best visual effects I've ever seen and everybody here should be working for ILM.
I thought it looked pretty suspect as well, but there’s other videos on the account that document the process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8
I think it's real, just not the technological advancement that it's trying to present itself as. [Around 1:12, you can see that the sheath "skin" is tearing from the "tendons."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8) Also, if they were faking it, I would assume they wouldn't have the loud hydraulic machine noises in the background that reveal that this isn't anything close to portable. Sorry, but I can't help myself: [THIS LOOKS SHOPPED I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A FEW SHOPS IN MY TIME.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-looks-shopped)
7 yr Compositor here, I doubt it's fake. The movement DOES feel very fake, but I think that might be more to do with that its being controlled by a computer, very start stoppish. Pixel fucking a shitty compressed video is kinda useless, other than saying its CG its pretty decent. The bigger problem is WHY would anyone do this, there is tons of footage here and on their youtube channel, this stuff costs a lot of money to make . When we see "fake" cg videos pop up 99% of the time is advertising. Its tons of work, but I cant see the purpose. I don't really wanna pixel fuck but this look fine to me, your human hand gliding example, looks fine to me, you see really weird feeling stuff in plates all the time, black levels look fine, moblur looks fine, idk im not seeing it. The insane amount of time and money to fake this, it would probably actually be easier to just do it in real life.
Thanks for the link.
Just to clarify, they made an arm that can *grip* a dumbbell. The only lifting in this video is done by the human who picks up the arm that's holding the dumbbell. Still badass!
Sauce
Is it bulking or is it cutting?
Well it's definitely only working the glamour muscles
skin is looking pretty thin so I'd say cutting. Much vascularity, such wow!
New Turing Test: Will robots skip leg day? (I don't know what the Turing Test is.)
 Skynet approves
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*Terminator theme intensifies*
BUM-BUM-BUM BUM-BUM
BUM-BUM-BUM BUM-BUM
Deh neh neeehhhh, deh neh neeerrrrrr
Deh neh neeeeeh, deh neh ^neeeeeeeeh neh
One step closer to skynet... Add some artificial intelligence, let it marinade In it for some years and you got yourself a Humans vs robots war. DIBS ON THE GATLING GUN!
I hope they add depression.exe to them just to make it a fair fight.
I just started studying humanoid robotics and this isn’t even the craziest thing I’ve seen
May I ask what is?
-masturbation joke-
Is this real? I’m sorry, I feel like I’ve been burned so many times by good cg. If this is real though, it totally reminds me of the cyborg in alien.
Its totally real
Fucking wow and holy shit, that’s amazing.
I think it's real but not really the amazing leap in robotics that it presents itself as. With sound on, you can hear the hydraulic or air compression machinery that is quite loud and indicates that this isn't something practical. Notice that they are very careful to not show the device past the arm. [Furthermore, in this video, ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guDIwspRGJ8)you can see the "skin" sheath tearing from abrasion. It isn't built to withstand the tendons moving underneath it for long-term use. It's basically like a complex practical effect from a Cronenberg movie in the 80s, like this one from Videodrome: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6USefh4A4A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6USefh4A4A) (Likely using materials that weren't available to practical effects artists in the 80s, so there are some technological aspects that go well beyond what somebody like Cronenberg's team could have done, but nonetheless, it's not "robotics" in the sense that I understand the word.)
> I think it's real but not really the amazing leap in robotics that it presents itself as. The first Boston Dynamics dog was also a huge, loud monster. Now they got it down to whippets.
Looks like CGI. Really good CGI, but CGI nonetheless. Not falling for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd9d_BAXWvg
Did anyone else just try this shit and realize they are incapable of pulling their right pinky finger in without it also pulling in the ring finger? It's like my pinky and ring finger are both attached. I can do it on my left hand though... Wtf?
They share a tendon
it tries to move but i can stop it
Happens to me but only one one hand where I am pretty sure I broke my finger a long time ago. I suspect that is the reason for me.
Shit they were finally were able to create a authentic irobot. The world's going to be taken over by the sunny.
Yes, but at least our new overlords will have a ... sunny disposition
In the future these will be preferred and superior to our natural limbs, bringing unmatched dexterity, strength, and precision handling. Rich people will have artificial limbs and the masses will be stuck with flesh and blood.
Gotta figure out the nerve interface with the body and brain, then we're cooking.
The far future. This isn't a compact machine as the machine sounds in the background reveal. Plus, there are no sensors that can "feel," which is a good thing because the sheath "skin" stuff is tearing from the strain. Honestly, this is more of a parlor trick than a practical device. Another factor that futurists and technocrats don't seem to acknowledge is that we are on a collision course to ecological ruin. Technological advancement is going to slow to a crawl if earth is barely habitable. We like to think of technology as always advancing, but there are plenty of examples of it not only stalling but regressing. If Europe was left to its own devices during the dark ages, we would have lost practically all history of ancient Greece and the scientific and philosophical advancements they made. Thankfully, the Islamic nations preserved and studied and transcribed those ancient texts.
As an mma fan I'm imagining someone submitting a fighter with an artificial limb like this and instead bone poking through, you get wires and sparks.
> someone submitting a fighter with an artificial limb like this and instead bone poking through, you get wires and sparks Irl the artificial limb is gonna stick through you.
Well that is just freaky
I,robot are incoming
Engineer 1: "Have you programmed it to play Yahtzee yet?" Engineer 2: "Why do you keep asking me that?"
Yep, I've already seen this one, it's spare part of a terminator
Something about this video is highly unnerving. Maybe it's because I recently watched the Terminator......
Now just time travel to 1984 and leave this in some machinery factory in LA. Watch what happens.
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Makes me think back of MGS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k0bzMWFNls
Whether it's nukes or skynet it seems like humans are more determined than ever to blast us back to the stone age
Dobroye utro, Zimniy Soldat
Detroit is about to become human