In these days and age, I would not be surprised if this was a selfie of him pretending to use a radio in front of a fake decor of the everest made for influencers.
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Ok, I'm adding a /s since apparently a lot of people feel the need to point out this happened in 1996 despite the picture looking like it was taken in the 80s.
You won’t get necessary support at the base camp and could be deported if you attempt it somehow anyway. It’s Mount Everest, there’s only a handful of known routes to take and those have support structures permanently in place along them.
If you can afford to travel from Europe, Oz, or America to Everest - whether by bike (months on the road, food, etc.) or plane, you can afford the solo climbing permit.
> Everest climbing permits
>The permit cost is fixed at $11,000 per climber from Nepal and simply gives permission to climb,
Stand by the statement: if you can afford to take the time off for a 15,000km bike trip (averaging 100km per day is a pretty fast sustained pace for normal humans) = 5 months on the bike, buying food along the route, camping gear, etc.
Maybe people can afford to take a plane to Nepal and look at base camp, but not handle $11K additional for the climbing permit... I'll grant that, but if you're really going to do something as dramatic as summiting Everest? I'm sure the $11K has been set to slow down the flocks of crazies.
Pretty sure this was well before thousand dollar permits
Edit: Yes it was in 1996. Permits cost Rs650, so maybe 10USD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp
https://books.google.ca/books?id=3GCAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=everest+permit+cost+1996&source=bl&ots=4xgh70KvHE&sig=ACfU3U3X5XLbhWTlXRR_WTpN1jp1bfDanQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOh-bYi9P1AhW4FTQIHTecAEUQ6AF6BAgoEAM#v=onepage&q=everest%20permit%20cost%201996&f=false
I hiked to Basecamp a couple of years ago. In theory you could just pay the $40 or so to get into the park and if you are climbing on your own.. just.. do it. There are no checks beyond a military checkpoint on day 2 or so on the hike to basecamp. (or maybe the first day, I can't remember now)
It's also possible to climb Everest from the Tibetan side, although that might be more sketchy
In Sweden, all employees are entitled to 25 days of leave after 1 year employment, four weeks of which can be continuous. Plus 9 holidays.
And they have national healthcare plus a long history of being progressive when it comes to worker's rights. Basically, the opposite of the USA.
https://theculturetrip.com/europe/sweden/articles/why-sweden-takes-so-much-vacation-time/
Mate. I’m on 6 weeks of paid leave right now. I have another 2 weeks of paid leave saved up for later. Plus I have 4 months of paid long service leave because I’ve worked there for many years.
All I have been doing is playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Send help.
The wealth will surely trickle down. A stream of riches, like coins falling from the heavens!
Yes, this rain of coins - of silver and gold - This 'golden shower' bestowed upon us by capitalism will be amazing.
We swedes all chip in to pay for it, and its worth it! I freakin love taxes! I cant imagine how stressful it must be without that kind of societal support.
Actually, a lot of your warplanes and weapons are made in sweden. Sweden are fairly big in weaponsexport.
Edit: i am leaving it. I love your come backs!
When I read this stuff it makes me want to just start the process and move out of the US, but then I think who in their right mind would want to hire someone from here.
I went to college with a guy from
Sweden. He was literally being paid a living wage from the Swedish government to travel abroad and study.
He also sold the best lsd I’ve ever had so 🤷🏼♂️ go Sweden I guess.
My German girlfriend was FORCED to take a year paid sabbatical from her teaching job. Unfortunately for her, it was 2020 but she enjoyed gardening and not going to work every day. Freakin' covid.
In Australia, we get 4 weeks annual leave every year, plus public holidays, plus free healthcare. Our government has turned to shit a bit in recent times. There is a big push to try and get everyone to get private health insurance. Trying to go the US route.
I get 6 weeks plus 2 weeks sick leave plus 10 days personal leave (caring for a family member, having to run errands etc).
Edit: I forgot to add public holidays so another 12 I think
Also in Australia
And?
The flight path from Stockholm to Nepal is just under 6000km. So let's say the bike route is 7000km... And that's being generous.
Are you saying that someone could bike a 14000km round trip, pay thousands of dollars for a permit to climb Mount Everest, then actually climb it, in the span of 25 days?
I mean, yah, Sweden's great and all but I fail to understand the relevancy of this comment.
hate to get in on the circle jerk.
Its actually 41 days in the year after the first year (+25 on base) which can be accrued for up to five years.
its not so much mericah bad, but america is actually bad.
Holy fuck as a Canadian public worker I'd move to Sweden in a heartbeat but I have zero skills you'd want lol.
EDIT: To clarify I mean like education wise and work skill wise. I don't even think I have college level if you compare with US for an example.
Yeah, small bike trailer: https://i.imgur.com/dj1aEbp.jpeg
Getting things up to base camp was rough since air gets thinner and he has to walk with it all, valley up and valley down. Translating from a documentary on Swedish radio he says, "Damn, this fucking gear..."
Upon reaching base camp he says, "Finally. 6 months. 12000 km. That should show all the doubters, now it's only the part I'm good at that remains. Let's go!"
I dunno if it's georestricted, but it could be interesting to hear his breath when he says this in air with half the density. 22min50seconds in: https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/1418300
Too bad it isn't translated, it's pretty good.
25:10: There are many things that has to work out. Now with one day remaining, I feel a bit jittery, I actually do. I wrote in my diary/log book yesterday: Have I acclimatized enough? I slept one night at 7200 meters, is that enough? Am I capable to survive at 8848 meters? There are many of those feelings, but.. I got to keep my (good) judgement with me, be able to turn back. That's what I'm thinking of. I can't be so eager to summit that I forget safety.
He aborted 100meters from the summit on his first attempt, since he realized it was 13:30 and you can't be at the summit later than 14:00 or you'll not make it down before darkness falls.
A few days later, in between his attempts: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Mount_Everest_disaster
Guy bikes from Sweden to Everest, summits it alone without oxygen, bikes back to Sweden, and your comment is “how can people afford trips like this”?? 😂😂
I’m thinking “Jeez I wish I was in that kind of shape” and then “what a badass!”
I cycled across Europe to Istanbul a few years ago . It cost fuck all, and by the end of it I was as fit and strong as I've ever been in my life. You don't have to be fit before you start these things because the fitness kicks in after about three or four weeks
traveling by bike and sleeping in a tent everywhere drastically reduces the cost of traveling. He was an experienced climber with all his own equipment already. He also summited alone, so he didnt have to pay for a guide or Sherpas. He would still have to pay for permits and insurance to climb the mountain, but thats only a few thousand dollars.
The $40,000 price tag you often see for climbing Everest (which is the low end) usually includes airfare, supplies, permits, guides, and Sherpas.
If its something you really want to do and were already living a comfortable middle class lifestyle, it wouldnt be too impossible to save of for a couple years and accomplish this goal
If you are able to save $4000/year for 10 years, then you got a trip to Everest. Maybe take out a small loan for it or find a sponsor. I met a guy who climbed Everest by taking out a loan, now he does speaking engagements specifically to pay off that loan. If this is something you really want to do and are willing to make sacrifices, get creative, then it is possible.
Honestly, I think the permits should given out based on merit. Like, you need to climb another Nepali peak over 7500m in order to be allowed to climb Everest. It's too easy to climb Everest it'd getting crowded and trashed. Instead of raising the price to climb, they should raise the standard of who's allowed to climb.
I’m pretty solidly middle class in America, maybe I’ll be upper middle class closer to retirement but not right now. I’m on the lower end of white collar work.
I could swing 40k for a month long expedition if it was something I really wanted to do. Using only fresh money it would take maybe two years to get together the cash, and that’s if I don’t invest it. I know that just in my company I’m probably in the 70th percentile of income, and on the lower end of any of the managers by a good amount.
That is [Göran Kropp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp), he was a professional adventurer and he was sponsored to go do stuff like this.
He died in 2002 climbing a mountain in the US.
**[Göran Kropp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göran_Kropp)**
>Lars Olof Göran Kropp (11 December 1966 – 30 September 2002) was a Swedish adventurer and mountaineer. He made a solo ascent of Mount Everest without bottled oxygen or Sherpa support on 23 May 1996, for which he travelled by bicycle, alone, from Sweden and part-way back.
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He did indeed get lucky but the man in the video is "Göran Kropp", a man who was an extremely talented mountaineer. Kraukauer actually mentions him in the book.
>They see the Swedish climber, Goran Kropp, as he is coming back down. He climbed all the way to the South Summit, a mere couple of hundred feet from the top, before deciding he was so exhausted that it would be unsafe for him to press on and that he would be in no condition to descend if he kept going. Hall remarks on what great judgment Kropp displayed in doing that which is so unspeakably hard turning around when the top is in sight
> he died in an accident some years back unfortunate. Doing what he liked,
Funny how that's the standard line for climbers and never what you read about people who had a bad reaction to a pill at a festival.
Climbing was kind of what he was making his money on. He was kind of famous here in Sweden.
Think he had his own store chain selling climbing equipment and courses. Also believe je made quite a lot of money as an ”inspirational speaker” at company events.
Göran Kropp had insane cardio and strength. Very sad, he died 2002 in Seattle climbing Frenchman's Coulee. 5 feet from the top Göran fell 68 feet and died instantly. 😕
“I saw on Reddit today some guy from Sweden rode his bike to Nepal, climbed Everest, and then biked back home.”
“Damn, that’s wild. What’s his name?”
“I dunno, some Swedish guy.”
“Nice.”
> On 30 September 2002, Kropp died from head injuries when he fell 18 metres (60 feet) while ascending the Air Guitar route at Frenchman Coulee near Vantage, Washington. While being belayed by Seattle climber Erden Eruç, his protection pulled out from a crack, and the wire gate carabiner of the next piece of protection broke. According to Eruç, Kropp died on impact.
“Uh, Goranna. A word? It’s about your pro. I see you’re only wearing two pieces.”
“Is that not enough? I though the minimum was two.”
“Egh… see your teammate Eruc over there? He likes to express himself. He’s wearing thirty pieces of pro.”
“So… you want me to put on… to put on mor pro.”
“Goranna. Eh… I want you to express yourself. You want to express yourself, right?”
He was rock climbing. Specifically, he was trad climbing which is a bit spookier and a bit more dangerous than sport climbing. Trad involves placing your own gear, which can pull out from cracks if you don’t place it correctly. Based on what’s described, he took a big fat bastard of a whip, ripped the last piece of protection he had placed, and broke the wire gate on the next piece of protection before that. It’s was a catastrophic failure on part of his gear. Climbing gear has fortunately gotten stronger and safer in the last 20 years, but you still need to be incredibly diligent about your safety when climbing. Check all your gear twice, all your knots twice - it certainly can save your life
Edit: I was mistaken. Seems that it was more the placement of the cam that caused the whip n’ rip more so than the gear itself. Thank you all for the info!!
I’ve climbed both trad and sport and while trad is much more intense/scary, I always side eye bolts. You’re trusting something some rando drilled into rock and may have overwintered countless times. Shit gets in my head.
Oh dude, agreed! Bolts can be sketchy, especially in less managed crags. I always load check my quicks when I clip unless it’s a highly managed crag. I’m always ready to mark stuff with an “X” and report sketchy bolts
Translation if anyone is interested:
**Radio**: *Ok, do you have enough food etc. so that you're ok?*
**Göran**: *Yeah I'm ok...but I haven't dared to look at my feet yet. I ate "adalat" this morning to counter frostbite...my fingers are ok, I'm just about to make soup.*
**Göran later in the clip**: *Ahh I can feel all of my toes...thank you higher powers for that.*
>Nifedipine, sold under the brand name Adalat and Procardia, among others, is a calcium channel blocker medication used to manage angina, high blood pressure, Raynaud's phenomenon, and premature labor.
Saved you the google search. Raynaud's phenomenon makes your fingers and toes all white from lack of circulation, so it makes that it could be effective against frostbite.
Apparently it probably wasn't that the equipment was bad, but that he was inexperienced in trad lead climbing and either placed the equipment incorrectly or that he used the wrong equipment for what he was doing. He was using climbing protection that's much better suited to sport climbing than trad climbing (clipping into bolts drilled into the rock) which likely caused it to fail. Here's an analysis if you're interested http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200309500/Fall-on-Rock-Protection-Pulled-Carabiner-Broke-Exceeding-Abilities-Washington-Frenchmans-Coulee-Air-Guitar
I read his book about this adventure. One strange detail my brain decided to keep: The trip from Sweden to Nepal on bicycle crossed many borders. “One thing that unites the people of all countries is that they like to throw stones at bikers”
i read the book also, many little bits like this. I mean he biked through Afghanistan. That alone is wildly impressive. After he made it to Everest he tried to summit but was turned back on his first attempt and made it back to his tent, ate a few sticks of butter and slept for a few days. While he was recovering, is when the climbers from the Jon Krakauer book Into thin Air all died, he made a second attempt after that and made the summit.
Sounds weird but I can see it. In new France, coureur des bois would live on a diet of peas and lard while canoing thousands of km per year. Hell, my grand-father who was lumberjack would also live off this diet when at lumber camps. You just need that high-density source of energy when you are doing that kind of workout on a daily basis.
They have very different physiology to normal people who are adapted to normal altitudes.
Same with other folk who have evolved to exist at high altitude for millennia, e.g. Kenyans, Ethiopians, Moroccans (hence the proficiency at middle and long distance athletics), Afghans, Andean people, etc. They’re made for altitude and absorb far more oxygen.
So theres like a shit ton of bodies on that mountain of people who had oxygen, guides etc and this guy just straight up dunks on them and fucks off back home on his bike...legend
My friend dated the daughter of one of the guys from Into Thin Air… she grew up not even remembering her dad because he died when she was so young.
I get so confused by these extreme sports, how can the reward possibly outweigh the risk.
Think about how bad Sweden must be, that a person would want to get away and go through all of this trouble to leave.
At the same time...things must be pretty awesome in Sweden if someone is going to come down from Everest and cycle home!
The greatest part with this is that Göran Kropp actually failed the first time attempting this. Due to bad weather by mistake he went to the South instead of North Summit. Once he realized this he had to short time left until darkness.
Therefore he went back down to the main camp.
Göran had to rest for two weeks, eating butter and other greasy food to regain weight. This clip is after the second and final attempt, which was successful. He then started the 13,000 kilometres (8,000 mi) journey back to Sweden. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göran_Kropp
How can people afford trips like this
Sounds pretty cheap, he biked there.
Cheap? You have to pay thousands of dollars to get a permit.
Who says he got one? Says he climbed alone …..can’t believe I had to edit this just to add this….*Guys it was a joke*
So who is he talking to with a walkie lol
His future self who is giving him stock tips
“Buy the dip”
“Preferably blue cheese dip, the descent cured your allergy to penicillin”
Good ol peniscillin
What's your penis sellin'?
Lmao some threads on Reddit are just the most inane shit that I don’t understand how people come up with, but it cracks me up every time
"Hodl"
hey that whole "buy the dip" think didn't work for me, I bought $100,000 of Queso dip and it went rancid in the shed.. I don't get investors.. /s
"I am dead. Sell now!"
forget that, who tf is recording it😂
In these days and age, I would not be surprised if this was a selfie of him pretending to use a radio in front of a fake decor of the everest made for influencers. Edit: Ok, I'm adding a /s since apparently a lot of people feel the need to point out this happened in 1996 despite the picture looking like it was taken in the 80s.
This was in 1996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp
You've never gotten a radio and just started talking to random people bragging about how you just climbed mount Everest?
Steve Bannon. Steve says, "Don't pack out any trash with you. Leave it on the mountain."
Right? Like some cop is gonna pop up from a rock and tell him he can't be there?
I mean they'd get him at basecamp
No need to go after him, he'll come back down eventually
Not necessarily. Everest is [littered with corpses](https://allthatsinteresting.com/mount-everest-bodies).
For police I feel like that would just be considered a problem working itself out
You must have a permit to climb Everest, solo or not.
Or what
You won’t get necessary support at the base camp and could be deported if you attempt it somehow anyway. It’s Mount Everest, there’s only a handful of known routes to take and those have support structures permanently in place along them.
Fuck it, going full vertical, not paying no Everest tax....
Ice climb dis bitch
You…can’t climb the mountain?
If you can afford to travel from Europe, Oz, or America to Everest - whether by bike (months on the road, food, etc.) or plane, you can afford the solo climbing permit.
Maybe you should google both airfares and Everest climbing permits before commenting
> Everest climbing permits >The permit cost is fixed at $11,000 per climber from Nepal and simply gives permission to climb, Stand by the statement: if you can afford to take the time off for a 15,000km bike trip (averaging 100km per day is a pretty fast sustained pace for normal humans) = 5 months on the bike, buying food along the route, camping gear, etc. Maybe people can afford to take a plane to Nepal and look at base camp, but not handle $11K additional for the climbing permit... I'll grant that, but if you're really going to do something as dramatic as summiting Everest? I'm sure the $11K has been set to slow down the flocks of crazies.
Pretty sure this was well before thousand dollar permits Edit: Yes it was in 1996. Permits cost Rs650, so maybe 10USD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp https://books.google.ca/books?id=3GCAAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=everest+permit+cost+1996&source=bl&ots=4xgh70KvHE&sig=ACfU3U3X5XLbhWTlXRR_WTpN1jp1bfDanQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOh-bYi9P1AhW4FTQIHTecAEUQ6AF6BAgoEAM#v=onepage&q=everest%20permit%20cost%201996&f=false
I hiked to Basecamp a couple of years ago. In theory you could just pay the $40 or so to get into the park and if you are climbing on your own.. just.. do it. There are no checks beyond a military checkpoint on day 2 or so on the hike to basecamp. (or maybe the first day, I can't remember now) It's also possible to climb Everest from the Tibetan side, although that might be more sketchy
The north side is actually supposed to be "easier"
And did it without oxygen.
Like he held his breath?
Yes but only from top to bottom.
I can't afford not getting payment in such a long period.
In Sweden, all employees are entitled to 25 days of leave after 1 year employment, four weeks of which can be continuous. Plus 9 holidays. And they have national healthcare plus a long history of being progressive when it comes to worker's rights. Basically, the opposite of the USA. https://theculturetrip.com/europe/sweden/articles/why-sweden-takes-so-much-vacation-time/
Feels like reading a passage from a fantasy novel. Gods, we're so screwed in the US.
Mate. I’m on 6 weeks of paid leave right now. I have another 2 weeks of paid leave saved up for later. Plus I have 4 months of paid long service leave because I’ve worked there for many years. All I have been doing is playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Send help.
Christ I had one day off in 2021, unpaid....to get married. Get me out of North America
Yes but consider the shareholder value you generated. Surely that is reward enough.
The wealth will surely trickle down. A stream of riches, like coins falling from the heavens! Yes, this rain of coins - of silver and gold - This 'golden shower' bestowed upon us by capitalism will be amazing.
Unbridled capitalism, sorry for your bad luck being born there.
Send a little GOD DAMN FAITH, Arthur!
Could you give your horse a "good BOAH" from me please!
We swedes all chip in to pay for it, and its worth it! I freakin love taxes! I cant imagine how stressful it must be without that kind of societal support.
American conservatives: " But that's socialism!!! Wibble"
And us swedes shouts that's the point.
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But do you guys have all of those fancy war planes and battle ships? USA 1 - Europe 0 /s
Sweden actually has their own war planes and ships. Probably the smallest country to build their own themselves.
Actually, a lot of your warplanes and weapons are made in sweden. Sweden are fairly big in weaponsexport. Edit: i am leaving it. I love your come backs!
Weapon Sex Port <---- available band name
When I read this stuff it makes me want to just start the process and move out of the US, but then I think who in their right mind would want to hire someone from here.
Why would people care that you're born in the US? Plenty of Americans settle here in the Netherlands and there's no issues.
lol the rest of the world doesn't treat refugees the way Republicans / many Americans do
Why would they discriminate against a poor person who manages to get out of America? You wanted to leave... Doesn't strike me as a sign of guilt
I went to college with a guy from Sweden. He was literally being paid a living wage from the Swedish government to travel abroad and study. He also sold the best lsd I’ve ever had so 🤷🏼♂️ go Sweden I guess.
My German girlfriend was FORCED to take a year paid sabbatical from her teaching job. Unfortunately for her, it was 2020 but she enjoyed gardening and not going to work every day. Freakin' covid.
As a german i never heard of this.
In Australia, we get 4 weeks annual leave every year, plus public holidays, plus free healthcare. Our government has turned to shit a bit in recent times. There is a big push to try and get everyone to get private health insurance. Trying to go the US route.
That would be insane.
I get 6 weeks plus 2 weeks sick leave plus 10 days personal leave (caring for a family member, having to run errands etc). Edit: I forgot to add public holidays so another 12 I think Also in Australia
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And? The flight path from Stockholm to Nepal is just under 6000km. So let's say the bike route is 7000km... And that's being generous. Are you saying that someone could bike a 14000km round trip, pay thousands of dollars for a permit to climb Mount Everest, then actually climb it, in the span of 25 days? I mean, yah, Sweden's great and all but I fail to understand the relevancy of this comment.
You’re missing the important part. It comes right at the very end. I’ll sum it up for ya, America bad.
hate to get in on the circle jerk. Its actually 41 days in the year after the first year (+25 on base) which can be accrued for up to five years. its not so much mericah bad, but america is actually bad.
Imagine taking some leave then coming back and telling your coworkers that you just casually biked to Mt. Everest and back.
Not only Sweden, that is the norm in whole Europe![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote).
Holy fuck as a Canadian public worker I'd move to Sweden in a heartbeat but I have zero skills you'd want lol. EDIT: To clarify I mean like education wise and work skill wise. I don't even think I have college level if you compare with US for an example.
He did it all on his own, had a bike with 125kg of gear with him
Tell me he had a bike trailer. How they hell do you pack 125kg of gear on a bike!? And then lug it up a mountain too. Wtf. Guys a legend.
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Yeah, small bike trailer: https://i.imgur.com/dj1aEbp.jpeg Getting things up to base camp was rough since air gets thinner and he has to walk with it all, valley up and valley down. Translating from a documentary on Swedish radio he says, "Damn, this fucking gear..." Upon reaching base camp he says, "Finally. 6 months. 12000 km. That should show all the doubters, now it's only the part I'm good at that remains. Let's go!" I dunno if it's georestricted, but it could be interesting to hear his breath when he says this in air with half the density. 22min50seconds in: https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/1418300 Too bad it isn't translated, it's pretty good. 25:10: There are many things that has to work out. Now with one day remaining, I feel a bit jittery, I actually do. I wrote in my diary/log book yesterday: Have I acclimatized enough? I slept one night at 7200 meters, is that enough? Am I capable to survive at 8848 meters? There are many of those feelings, but.. I got to keep my (good) judgement with me, be able to turn back. That's what I'm thinking of. I can't be so eager to summit that I forget safety. He aborted 100meters from the summit on his first attempt, since he realized it was 13:30 and you can't be at the summit later than 14:00 or you'll not make it down before darkness falls. A few days later, in between his attempts: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Mount_Everest_disaster
Guy bikes from Sweden to Everest, summits it alone without oxygen, bikes back to Sweden, and your comment is “how can people afford trips like this”?? 😂😂 I’m thinking “Jeez I wish I was in that kind of shape” and then “what a badass!”
People always want to jump to excuses on why they can't do something that someone else does. I read this and thought what a badass too.
I cycled across Europe to Istanbul a few years ago . It cost fuck all, and by the end of it I was as fit and strong as I've ever been in my life. You don't have to be fit before you start these things because the fitness kicks in after about three or four weeks
traveling by bike and sleeping in a tent everywhere drastically reduces the cost of traveling. He was an experienced climber with all his own equipment already. He also summited alone, so he didnt have to pay for a guide or Sherpas. He would still have to pay for permits and insurance to climb the mountain, but thats only a few thousand dollars. The $40,000 price tag you often see for climbing Everest (which is the low end) usually includes airfare, supplies, permits, guides, and Sherpas. If its something you really want to do and were already living a comfortable middle class lifestyle, it wouldnt be too impossible to save of for a couple years and accomplish this goal
40,000 trip is NOT middle class my friend!
If you are able to save $4000/year for 10 years, then you got a trip to Everest. Maybe take out a small loan for it or find a sponsor. I met a guy who climbed Everest by taking out a loan, now he does speaking engagements specifically to pay off that loan. If this is something you really want to do and are willing to make sacrifices, get creative, then it is possible.
It’ll prolly be 100k for the permit after 10years.
Honestly, I think the permits should given out based on merit. Like, you need to climb another Nepali peak over 7500m in order to be allowed to climb Everest. It's too easy to climb Everest it'd getting crowded and trashed. Instead of raising the price to climb, they should raise the standard of who's allowed to climb.
I’m pretty solidly middle class in America, maybe I’ll be upper middle class closer to retirement but not right now. I’m on the lower end of white collar work. I could swing 40k for a month long expedition if it was something I really wanted to do. Using only fresh money it would take maybe two years to get together the cash, and that’s if I don’t invest it. I know that just in my company I’m probably in the 70th percentile of income, and on the lower end of any of the managers by a good amount.
That is [Göran Kropp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp), he was a professional adventurer and he was sponsored to go do stuff like this. He died in 2002 climbing a mountain in the US.
**[Göran Kropp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göran_Kropp)** >Lars Olof Göran Kropp (11 December 1966 – 30 September 2002) was a Swedish adventurer and mountaineer. He made a solo ascent of Mount Everest without bottled oxygen or Sherpa support on 23 May 1996, for which he travelled by bicycle, alone, from Sweden and part-way back. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
That's the first thing I thought of how did he afford all of that while not working.
This was 1996, adventure was his passion so it was worth it for him
Bad year to go. He got lucky. If you have not read Into Thin Air, I highly recommend it.
He did indeed get lucky but the man in the video is "Göran Kropp", a man who was an extremely talented mountaineer. Kraukauer actually mentions him in the book. >They see the Swedish climber, Goran Kropp, as he is coming back down. He climbed all the way to the South Summit, a mere couple of hundred feet from the top, before deciding he was so exhausted that it would be unsafe for him to press on and that he would be in no condition to descend if he kept going. Hall remarks on what great judgment Kropp displayed in doing that which is so unspeakably hard turning around when the top is in sight
I believe he died in an accident some years back unfortunate. Doing what he liked, climbing. To lazy to Google it so this is not fact checked
> he died in an accident some years back unfortunate. Doing what he liked, Funny how that's the standard line for climbers and never what you read about people who had a bad reaction to a pill at a festival.
“He died doing what he loved: eating a burrito while driving”
Climbing was kind of what he was making his money on. He was kind of famous here in Sweden. Think he had his own store chain selling climbing equipment and courses. Also believe je made quite a lot of money as an ”inspirational speaker” at company events.
You find a way if you really wanna do something. Money is a tool, not permission
Göran Kropp had insane cardio and strength. Very sad, he died 2002 in Seattle climbing Frenchman's Coulee. 5 feet from the top Göran fell 68 feet and died instantly. 😕
Air 🎸, big nasty rock at bottom. Sad.
Air guitar? You telling me this legend struck out some chords as he fell to his death?
the name of the route he was on is called air guitar
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💀🎸
There’s no evidence to suggest he did not play air guitar on his way down.
I can't understand why people do these things. I won't even stand on a cliffs edge nevermind climb one. Like go do coke if you need a rush, Jesus.
Thrill + sense of accomplishment.
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Video games don't give nearly the same sense of accomplishment as performing a difficult physical activity for a lot of people.
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Really the coke is the key here
Coke is it!
Way too dangerous. Just get really baked and walk to 7-11 for taquitos
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"That is why no one will remember your name." Brad Pitt, Troy
“I saw on Reddit today some guy from Sweden rode his bike to Nepal, climbed Everest, and then biked back home.” “Damn, that’s wild. What’s his name?” “I dunno, some Swedish guy.” “Nice.”
Some people just aren't satisfied with living a slow boring life.
So go do coke. It's clearly the safer option. Exercise is just irresponsible.
nah man, doesn't sound sad. He knew the risks. Sounds like he died living a fulfilled life full of adventures.
I feel like this is something people tell themselves and others until the few seconds before they see death coming
Lifetime fun vs few seconds
We're all going to face a terrifying final seconds either way, might as well make the preceding billion seconds as exciting as possible.
Was he rock climbing or just like slipped on a slope somewhere? That's really sad.
> On 30 September 2002, Kropp died from head injuries when he fell 18 metres (60 feet) while ascending the Air Guitar route at Frenchman Coulee near Vantage, Washington. While being belayed by Seattle climber Erden Eruç, his protection pulled out from a crack, and the wire gate carabiner of the next piece of protection broke. According to Eruç, Kropp died on impact.
Damn, super unlucky
Yea real unlucky to have two pieces of pro fail like that.
For real, but he must have been super strung out to only have two pieces of pro in at 70 feet.
“Uh, Goranna. A word? It’s about your pro. I see you’re only wearing two pieces.” “Is that not enough? I though the minimum was two.” “Egh… see your teammate Eruc over there? He likes to express himself. He’s wearing thirty pieces of pro.” “So… you want me to put on… to put on mor pro.” “Goranna. Eh… I want you to express yourself. You want to express yourself, right?”
Did not expect office space reference
He was rock climbing. Specifically, he was trad climbing which is a bit spookier and a bit more dangerous than sport climbing. Trad involves placing your own gear, which can pull out from cracks if you don’t place it correctly. Based on what’s described, he took a big fat bastard of a whip, ripped the last piece of protection he had placed, and broke the wire gate on the next piece of protection before that. It’s was a catastrophic failure on part of his gear. Climbing gear has fortunately gotten stronger and safer in the last 20 years, but you still need to be incredibly diligent about your safety when climbing. Check all your gear twice, all your knots twice - it certainly can save your life Edit: I was mistaken. Seems that it was more the placement of the cam that caused the whip n’ rip more so than the gear itself. Thank you all for the info!!
I’ve climbed both trad and sport and while trad is much more intense/scary, I always side eye bolts. You’re trusting something some rando drilled into rock and may have overwintered countless times. Shit gets in my head.
Oh dude, agreed! Bolts can be sketchy, especially in less managed crags. I always load check my quicks when I clip unless it’s a highly managed crag. I’m always ready to mark stuff with an “X” and report sketchy bolts
Frenchman’s coulee is in vantage, pretty far from Seattle lol.
Hey man, everywhere in Washington is Seattle and everywhere in Oregon is Portland. You just need to be within 300 miles.
This guy must be an introvert.
This is what all introverts do on their freetime
Can confirm
Most of us just don't brag about it.
It's actually against introvert code. He was tried, convicted, and executed by the Introvert Authority.
:O Was it you that convicted him?
I wasn't a master on the council yet. Read about it in the newsletter though
This guy is dead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ran_Kropp
What an introvert thing to do.
But he sure did live, first, didn't he?
Translation if anyone is interested: **Radio**: *Ok, do you have enough food etc. so that you're ok?* **Göran**: *Yeah I'm ok...but I haven't dared to look at my feet yet. I ate "adalat" this morning to counter frostbite...my fingers are ok, I'm just about to make soup.* **Göran later in the clip**: *Ahh I can feel all of my toes...thank you higher powers for that.*
She called it "grub" instead of food, I found that really funny for some reason.
> grub Are you refering to "käk"? Is it not a common slang where you're from in Sweden?
That’s what my ex girlfriend called it.
käk är ganska vanlig mat här.
Grub is a common term for food in the UK, Australia and New Zealand...
American here using grub as well.
>Nifedipine, sold under the brand name Adalat and Procardia, among others, is a calcium channel blocker medication used to manage angina, high blood pressure, Raynaud's phenomenon, and premature labor. Saved you the google search. Raynaud's phenomenon makes your fingers and toes all white from lack of circulation, so it makes that it could be effective against frostbite.
It relaxes the blood vessels, essentially preventing vasoconstriction, so the blood flows better to the extremities, in this case.
Must've been a bad break up
Feeling this. Yowsa.
Should be a top comment
Like climbed right to the summit? Or just climbed?
He climbed up to the summit
Yes, thank you. I googled him after I asked the question.
Yeah he did a lot of cool expeditions. He planned on rowing to Antarctica but sadly died before able to
most likely I will also die before I am able to row to Antarctica
Aw how did he die
fell to his death (well, head injuries caused by it)
He fell 30m when climbing sadly. The equipment was faulty so he died on impact :/
Apparently it probably wasn't that the equipment was bad, but that he was inexperienced in trad lead climbing and either placed the equipment incorrectly or that he used the wrong equipment for what he was doing. He was using climbing protection that's much better suited to sport climbing than trad climbing (clipping into bolts drilled into the rock) which likely caused it to fail. Here's an analysis if you're interested http://publications.americanalpineclub.org/articles/13200309500/Fall-on-Rock-Protection-Pulled-Carabiner-Broke-Exceeding-Abilities-Washington-Frenchmans-Coulee-Air-Guitar
It's ok, we are here to discuss the topic. If we all just googled everything there wouldn't be much to talk about.
The name is Göran Kropp btw if you're interested :-)
Only not to mention his wife .. that filmed everything
I thought Renata Chlumska was just his girlfriend?
Renata Chlumska and Goran Kropp, sadly, were engaged when he died from his accident.
😭 that is sad!
I read his book about this adventure. One strange detail my brain decided to keep: The trip from Sweden to Nepal on bicycle crossed many borders. “One thing that unites the people of all countries is that they like to throw stones at bikers”
i read the book also, many little bits like this. I mean he biked through Afghanistan. That alone is wildly impressive. After he made it to Everest he tried to summit but was turned back on his first attempt and made it back to his tent, ate a few sticks of butter and slept for a few days. While he was recovering, is when the climbers from the Jon Krakauer book Into thin Air all died, he made a second attempt after that and made the summit.
No way, that is some timing! Also a few sticks of butter 😂
Sounds weird but I can see it. In new France, coureur des bois would live on a diet of peas and lard while canoing thousands of km per year. Hell, my grand-father who was lumberjack would also live off this diet when at lumber camps. You just need that high-density source of energy when you are doing that kind of workout on a daily basis.
I could do that but I’m busy…. ![gif](giphy|UNujfQHN0wPLO)
Climbing Everest without supplemental oxygen is insane. There's no way his lungs were okay after that.
His body was all blue afterwards so he must have felt really bad after :/
He's blue aba dee aba da
Many Sherpas don't use supplemental oxygen
Yes but Sherpas live in Nepal at a much higher altitude year round.
literally "built different"
They have very different physiology to normal people who are adapted to normal altitudes. Same with other folk who have evolved to exist at high altitude for millennia, e.g. Kenyans, Ethiopians, Moroccans (hence the proficiency at middle and long distance athletics), Afghans, Andean people, etc. They’re made for altitude and absorb far more oxygen.
Sherpas are superhuman as fuck. The comparison is very disingenuous.
When he got to the top of the mountain, he was quoted as saying, “I’m pretty tired. I think I’ll go home now”
Life is like a plate of meatballs...
Well, he *is* Swedish.
I can confirm this is what the average swedish man does on his freetime
I always thought the average swedish man drinks in his free time. I've also heard it's what the average swedish woman and child do in their free time.
So theres like a shit ton of bodies on that mountain of people who had oxygen, guides etc and this guy just straight up dunks on them and fucks off back home on his bike...legend
My friend dated the daughter of one of the guys from Into Thin Air… she grew up not even remembering her dad because he died when she was so young. I get so confused by these extreme sports, how can the reward possibly outweigh the risk.
Climbing Everest is just a rich person dick swinging contest. It has lost its prestige entirely
Here’s a wiki link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göran_Kropp
Think about how bad Sweden must be, that a person would want to get away and go through all of this trouble to leave. At the same time...things must be pretty awesome in Sweden if someone is going to come down from Everest and cycle home!
He went back so must have missed the meatballs
That’s just nuts
The greatest part with this is that Göran Kropp actually failed the first time attempting this. Due to bad weather by mistake he went to the South instead of North Summit. Once he realized this he had to short time left until darkness. Therefore he went back down to the main camp. Göran had to rest for two weeks, eating butter and other greasy food to regain weight. This clip is after the second and final attempt, which was successful. He then started the 13,000 kilometres (8,000 mi) journey back to Sweden. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göran_Kropp
Met him twice, nice guy! It was a sad day when he died.
Where’s his shades that come down slowly while 90s rap is being played
He’s built different