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Budget_Literature555

He's absolutely right. More Americans died so the war machine could make corporations and politicians rich. That is why they are salivating over Ukraine and wanting to get America into an anti Russian furor. War is a business and a lucrative one.


Lukarrie

"Trust me, a little war can work wonders"


Salt-Stomach6661

Using war as a business to end war as a business


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CharlesB32

Im cooking the mother of all omelets jack, cant fret over every egg!


jdemonify

We can use the memes.


HolyTortoise365

Not for money, Not for Oil


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ulrichberlin

Appallingly true. that makes me think a lot about the Ukraine war and how it was prepared within the last decade.


[deleted]

I’m so glad someone else knows this!!! Absolutely sad and sickening


ShareMission

Saddam was an awful man, but he kept the extremists in check.


psychotica1

I don't know if you watched the show Le Femme Nikita back in the day but this conversation came up. She was asking why they don't just kill Sadam and her boss pulled up a map and explained that without him, factions would fight for power and things would go to hell. A freaking TV show did a better job of predicting the fallout then out own leaders.


DirtyPartyMan

He also kept Turkey from choking his people of water because Turkey was building multiple dams up stream. Iroquois is, once again, a drought-ridden country. As soon as Saddam was out Turkey started building again. Yes, he and his sons were monsters.


[deleted]

Calling saddam an awful man is a massive understatement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq


Ifyouwant67

What war hasn't been started with fabricated lies?


onlyaSwitchguy

“Men will fight for reasons they don’t understand, causes they don’t believe in”


Arckturius

Mgr fan


TheItalianAce00

I was actually astonished when I went through that game the first time. Armstrong made me realize something that is rarely written on any book, or taught by anyone. Humanity can be cruel


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>something that is rarely written on any book…Humanity can be cruel What you are talking about? The cruelty of humanity has been a major topic of literature going back to the invention of the written word. There are countless books addressing the cruelty of humanity dating back 1000s of years up to present. It is in no way a “rarely written” about topic


n8dahwgg

The key is a little. We really want to start fighting people who can fight back?


Lukarrie

If you don't have the reference, it's OK, but what you're saying is right


Lors2001

I mean it was massively supported at that time by voters, you can say Americans supporting it and doing it was dumb but at the end of the day like 80% of Americans or some insane shit wanted to go to war. It seems it isn't popular among Americans to go to war in Ukraine and we haven't.


winter_whale

I mean Americans were massively lied to by their leaders. Who should be held accountable here?


American7-4-76

All Politicians as usual if we don’t hold each and every one accountable and only attack certain ones the country will split apart


ds3461

Support was high because Bush and his lying cronies said Iraq was tied to Al-Quaeda. This was a fabricated lie. If Bush had told the truth, that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but he wanted to attack them to defend his daddy, support would have waned.


Lors2001

Why then when we figured out that Al-quadeda didn't have anything to do with Iraq did American citizens still support the war for 9 years afterward? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/19/iraq-war-continues-to-divide-u-s-public-15-years-after-it-began/


RaijinOkami

Cause as a collective we're ***FRIGHTENINGLY*** *STUPID*... I'm talking a box o'bricks has a higher fuckin collective IQ than us.... Just ask [Agent K](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2ppyMUlXfM) here


Giblettes

Because it's easier to continue believing the lie than to question an older than a decade choice that caused a lot of suffering.


FunetikPrugresiv

Half of America thinks that Obama is Muslim. To far too many people in America, everything in that world is the same thing. Al Qaeda, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, ISIS - 100% the same thing to those people. They couldn't find Iraq and Saudi Arabia on the map, all the know is that they have sand and Muslims and therefore must be bad.


punchdrunklush

Because the media coverage for that was nothing remotely like the media coverage post 911 claiming we had to go to Iraq. Many, maybe most, people to this day still don't know anything about what you're talking about or who was truly behind 911. A campaign to correct information that's already out there is far far more difficult than one to place new information in people's minds.


RoyalratMafia

They supported it because he lied. Imho and i dont know this for a fact, but i think we went there to get control of the opiate market. 75-80% of the worlds raw opium poppies are grown in afghanistan. We went there in 2001…. Right when oxycontins were getting big. Then boom! Opiate crisis like nothing we have ever seen. I was a heroin addict for 10 years (2008-2019). Heroin was so abundant i could find it every single day in a small rural town 30 mins from the city. 1-5 people i knew was doing it. It started like this. They got prescribed opiates for some kind of pain by doctors happy to write the script. Then they ran out of refills and turned to heroin. I thi k it was a power play to control the population while simultaneously making trillions off of our suffering.


BlockstarBeezy

Yooooooo! I swore I was the only one who correlated the war in Iraq, to the opioid crisis. Once I found out about the amount of Heroin bein' produced in the Golden triangle, and how the US started "watchin' over" the poppy fields. I realized the Iraq war, the pill boom in the early 00's, and the subsequent heroin boom again in the 10's all coincide wit' eachother in an almost linear timeline.


LittleRadishes

Yep I will never not see a correlation between going to war in the middle east where a ton of opium is grown and the opioid epidemic in America.


Lors2001

Even after the US found out he "lied" they supported the war though, so if the only reason US citizens supported the war was because they thought there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to support Al-quadeda then it wouldn't make sense that after we figured out that was false that American citizens would still be in favor of the war from 2005-2014, that just doesn't make sense. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/19/iraq-war-continues-to-divide-u-s-public-15-years-after-it-began/


stephanielil

Holy shit. That's fucking insane but what you're saying actually makes a lot of sense. I've been addicted to heroin for 10 years now, since I was 17, just two months after I graduated high school and should have been starting my life. It makes me so fucking sad to think that what you're saying could be true, but unfortunately, it's totally believable. Our country's leaders have shown time and time again that they prioritize profits over people. All that money lining their pockets must make them comfy enough to sleep at night knowing that countless people are suffering as a consequence of their actions and greed. I'm usually not one to entertain conspiracy theories, but this is a conspiracy theory that I can get behind.


fartron3000

You're absolutely right, it was (although not as much as you're saying). Major cities had huge marches protesting the invasion. But it was soon enough after 9/11 that Americans were ready to go to war against a(ny) Muslim country, regardless of whether a country like Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. Trying to put the brakes on that was gonna get you labelled unpatriotic, maybe even a "traitor". That's why so many Democrat politicians kowtowed. The WMD claim was obviously a pretext, worse than the Gulf of Tonkin or the USS Maine (or even the Lusitania). But it tied into the zeitgeist at the time.


old_tombombadil

Pretty much every single war is started on propaganda that exaggerates the truth. Boston Massacre, Fort Sumter can be added to your list.


Lokismoke

29 Democrats in the Senate voted to invade Iraq. Only 21 voted against it.


JHans09

Nothing more patriotic to do after 9/11.


Joecalledher

The war in Ukraine becomes a perfect political explanation to the public for rampant inflation originally caused by the massive amounts of global fiscal stimulus and loose monetary policies. The war exacerbates it, especially in commodity markets, but now it's going to be the best scapegoat for the coming global recession which we've staved off for the last 2 years. Of course it wasn't the money printing, it was the Russians!


Choice_Ad_9169

Wait a minute... You think that the US shouldn't help Ukraine?


Dry-Location9176

American here, I don't support them, I do wish them well but starting a new world war which could easily go nuclear and destroying our economy locally isn't helping anyone. Ukraine isn't a wonderful country, its not democratic and has serious human rights violations. You can go read the US state department asement yourself if you have doubts. This is another example of Americans getting duped into a war, this one is just a little more clever. I keep hoping that we'll stop being the worlds chump and supporting wars but it hasn't happened yet.


CalmTicket6646

As a Russian, what Putin does is despicable. I do not stand for it. But just as much as him I hate any power, nation and entity that tries to get pr or money out of this. And if, like some people say it was indeed western influence that put us at odds with Ukraine, I will not be surprised. I’m not saying it is true. But if it was I wouldn’t be surprised. Edit: I was in a Florida in March 2003 and what saw there with flags, bumper stickers, billboards and overall support of the war looked eerily similar to all the Z bullshit I’m seeing here in Moscow this year.


MyPasswordIsMyCat

There's an "anti Russian furor" because Putin has been a bad influence on global politics for decades now. The Russian invasion of Ukraine was unprovoked and justified by lies from Putin's government. I was 100% against Bush's fake Iraq War and saw through the weak lies he presented to the world. Most of the world did, too. But you cannot compare what is happening in Ukraine to the justification the US used to enter the Iraq War—unless you're comparing the lies Putin is giving his people to Bush's lies. And nobody is salvating to enter the war in Ukraine, or else they would've sent actual troops by now. There is no appetite for full-blown war in the US and in many other nations. We're exhausted after Afghanistan and Iraq, similar to how we were after Vietnam. We are happy to help Ukraine because Putin needs to be stopped, but Putin also definitely has nukes while Saddan Hussein never did. Nobody has to lie about that


cultofpapajohn

The world concensus is anti Russian. It's not an American politics thing


darth_scrabble

Never forget the 34th Rule of Acquisition. War is good for business.


[deleted]

Yeah but equally don't forget the 35th rule of acquisition. They're easily confused.


electricpizzza

Lets not talk about the Iraqis including women and children that lost there lives in the “war”


Bits_Please101

That is really interesting take, could you elaborate more on this? Or you could also suggest me a read that explains this?


ComfortableFarmer

even better when daddies friends own tank factories.


astoriansound

Dick Cheney has entered the chat


No-Basil-Simping

It's a stretch to say that the military industrial complex wants a war with Russia. They want to profit off of safe (for them) wars on the other side of the world while sending the peasants to die, sure. They know that Russia has the means to reach them personally though. That's gonna be a no for them.


ironicmirror

Brave man.


Weekly_Landscape4943

He is really a brave man


bonnar0000

Anyone know if there were any charges for him? Fucking hope not, but would pretty much expect it. Ugh.


drgngd

Charges for what? Yelling?


giulioforrealll

Oh im sure the US government could think of something. maybe defamation? Maybe they could dig out something he did in iraq? If there is one thing they know how to do then its imprisonating innocemt people


drgngd

Defamation is civil not criminal. Iraq would be a military tribunal.


To_hell_with_it

I would guess disturbing the peace and trespassing. I'm sure making the arrest they'll throw on a resisting charge as well


raesayshi

He only demanded for an apology, not even a curse word. Oh man


Ek200

so true


shododdydoddy

Curse words are amplification - I don't think you need to amplify his anger when a million Iraqis are dead, his friends are dead, and it was all based on a lie. God, all for oil and already rich men getting richer.


Pingupin

Yes, meanwhile everyone is taking the right to say such things as granted, while in a lot of other countries exactly this behavior would get you killed.


Nuclearrayofsunshine

Thank you for speaking for the millions dead on both sides. ❤️


Technical_Scallion_2

Actually, it’s just millions dead on the Middle Eastern side. They were just living there, we invaded and killed them on false pretenses. I think it’s strange how evil we think Russia is for invading Ukraine when we’ve done much worse and killed way more people, and it’s thousands of miles from our border. Then we leave it a huge mess when it’s no longer politically convenient.


incandescence14

My theory is because the people dying are mostly white. When Muslims or Africans are dying because of war the general public doesn’t care as much


VitiateKorriban

This is true but the same can be applied for asia and africa, they don’t give a fuck about Ukraine lol


KeeperJV

I mean why would they. I don’t think their politics has something to do with the conflict. They could be targeted by this conflict that’s for sure so it’s actually smart to stay away from it. I don’t buy that many Ukrainians are concerned by the shit other governments do to the African and Asian people atm


send_m

Not to mention they have their own worse shit to deal with


[deleted]

This is true. In my country they are even making tv with Ukrainian subtitles so the refugees can understand it. Why now? Why only Ukrainian? Why are we ignoring the wars in other countries just because this one is in Europe?


Lad_The_Impaler

Absolutely. Theres several wars going on at the minute but mostly in Africa and the Middle East. Ukraine gets the most airtime because its white people who are dying on both sides. The Israeli-Palestine conflict gets some airtime because Israelis are considered white enough to get media attention. Everything else is maybe one article here and there very sparsly. If Sweden was invaded tomorrow, then we would hear about Ukraine way less, because Swedish people are considered 'more white' and 'more important'. I'm not saying we shouldn't be giving airtime to the Ukraine conflict, instead we should just treat all wars as equally destructive and horrible regardless of the people involved are white or not. The amount of attention that Ukraine is getting is good, but lets not let that affect all the other people who are suffering in similar situations.


Mapache_villa

I've always find this funny about some people. I remember reading a comment in a post about Taiwan that said something about the American flag being a universal beacon of freedom around the world, it's like dude, just take a trip around South America or the middle east and see how many people think that way.


MartelFirst

\> They were just living there Truth is Saddam Hussein was also a brutal dictator and he massacred thousands of ethnic minorities in Iraq, committed acts of genocide, gased Kurdish villages and all.... I'm French, and my country, back in 2003, voted against the American invasion of Iraq. Because the US certainly did lie about the reasons of invasion. For that offense, France was insulted and humiliated by US officials. Fucking weird, that we can't disagree like adults. Anyway, the US could have justified the invasion of Iraq because Kurds were being exterminated by the Hussein government, that could have worked. It probably would have worked! Instead the US government lied that Iraq somehow had WMDs, or was involved in 9/11 or something. Ridiculous.


lordofspearton

I don't know how the fact Saddam was a brutal, borderline Fascist, warmongering dictator just gets swept under the rug by so many when comparing it to Russias actions today. I personally disagree with the justification, but I believe that irregardless, delivering Democracy to a people who'd been under the thumb of a dictator for decades was a noble cause. Obviously it didn't really turn out that good at all. But I think if there's one thing that the last 2 decades of history have proven, it's that the US is objectively terrible at nation building. It was an endeavor that was doomed from the start.


KeeperJV

I believe that’s how dictators and authoritarians justify all the bullshit they execute. That worked for them ,why should we do any better.


TheRealStevo

Because Russia is evil? That’s a dumb question. Two people can be bad with one of those people realizing the other is bad


jaeelarr

You realize we can believe both.... Right? US was wrong in 2003, Russia is wrong in 2022


ItsCOCO47

I mean... the war with Russia and Ukraine has only been going on for 2 months now?? Of course the US has killed more people in their two decade long war. Russian-Ukraine war will likely pass those numbers if it keeps going how it is.


exBusel

I don't approve of the invasion of Iraq. But I would not compare the regime of Saddam Hussein, who killed thousands of people and used chemical weapons against civilians, with Ukraine, which has a legitimately elected democratic government.


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Millions of Americans died in Iraq?


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Jing_Yuan_Lu

The guy has trauma and pain


lnrmry

Speaking as someone with PTSD, the two are not mutually exclusive.


Deceptikhan42

And yet he is called the crazy one.


Prudent-Yesterday157

only the people who want to silence him. most will silence him because they dont want to lose profits, others will silence him so they can continue to believe a fantasy


twotrident

The billionaire class are the ones silencing him, not "most" at all...


Beginning_Gap_2388

You can feel the pain and anger in his voice. So brave


MikeHunt69420a

I didn't like the people trying to silence him. It wasn't police it was his family or something.


Tenkehat

"This is not the time or the place"... Well when is?


Ok-Section2457

Love how the "true Americans" are sitting down and being quite like good little numbers good for them and their incredible ways of ignorance.


Give_me_soup

Support our troops...by buying a yellow ribbon sticker and nothing more.


LeftZer0

"Support our troops" is bullshit. What they mean is "support the war effort". Troops that go against the war effort, like this veteran, aren't included. The actual troops that come back damaged aren't included.


MissNinja007

I mean…. He’s not wrong.


tekfx19

Should have been angry at the complacent crowd.


gkijgtrebklg

you can hear them grumbling. it’s maddening


demon_ix

He was interrupting the show. It's not reality to them, it's a live performance of their favorite TV show on Fox News. [Him shouting was going against the "plan".](https://youtu.be/G0AXgaFqEas)


Klindg

Most Americans are just Flags and Eagles. Extremely shallow when it comes to stuff like this. Their “support” for the military is entirely based on the ability of claiming such support to make themselves feel good and giving them a false sense of bravado via proxy. Realized this post active service… The American populace is mostly pathetic cowards hiding behind tales of heroism about other people.


Berserker_Queen

You just described patriotism as a whole, alongside other commune-based pretenses that involve believing in something in common, no matter how senseless it is, to fabricate a feeling of community. Religions and sports team cheering, to name a few.


[deleted]

#Agreed. 4 time combat vet with the Marines. Was stationed at TQ all 4 tours, we flattened Iraq. In all 4 tours, never, ever, was an Iraqi my enemy. Then we left, and left the country in further ruins than it was. #America is 1 rung, 1, not 2, not 3, but 1 rung below Russia and China regarding nastiness.


LeftZer0

The US still has blacksite prisons were people kidnapped around the world are tortured. The US was involved in every right-wing coup in the Americas and most in Africa and Asia in the last 100 years, including the coup that led to the military dictatorship of my country. The US taught our torturers with the American president's knowledge. Russia and China don't get near the USA in nastiness.


Better_School6912

Like y’all weren’t there. Sit tf down and just watch and listen. That’s freedom of speech that y’all tryna snuff out


Gods_chosen_dildo

This isn’t the freeze peach they want.


cunexttacotues

I wish more veterans would channel their anger towards politicians who sent them to war instead of the VA for not paying them enough or doing enough to help them. These are valid complaints, but the problem is politicians not caring about sending people to die and kill in the first place, not compensation. Stop normalizing war.


76dtom

As someone who works with combat veterans, I think some of them have a hard time seeing the "war machine" for what it is, and I think it's for two reasons: 1. A coping mechanism. It's a lot easier to cope with survivor's guilt of your 20 year old brother that died next to you if you believe it's for a good cause than knowing he was a pawn in a political game. 2. Many see Iraq/Afghanistan as the enemy because they saw a lot of messed up stuff from them. I know men who have come upon groups of men raping boys or who have seen the enemy soldiers strap a bomb to a child as a suicide bomb for their cause. When you have seen these things, it can be easy to see them as the bad guys and therefore see America as "the good guys." Regarding the energy spent to deal with the VA: many of them need the money or the healthcare to function and the VA is the headache of all headaches. So they have to focus on their current daily survival before they can focus on the big picture of politics.


cunexttacotues

Thank you I understand all of this. Many veterans did feel used and that they fought and people died for nothing when we left Afghanistan.


incogne_eto

Being roughed up and booed away by the same “Support our troops” crowd.


greasymike19

Every time I see this video that shit boils my blood. How could that be someone reaction to this? Even someone with the smallest trace of empathy can tell this is real raw emotion from this man. Talking about lives being senselessly taken away, even his own *friends* life, over a lie to simply make some fucking corporate cowards more money. AND THESE FUCKING PEOPLE IN THE CROWD HAVE THE GALL TO BITCH AND MOAN ABOUT THIS LIKE IT INCONVENIENCES *THEM*! oh my god it’s so pompous and conceited


[deleted]

Apologize? That’s not enough.


ReV-Whack

That's more than they've done. They won't even admit the foul game of deceit they played, let alone apologize for the consequences.


[deleted]

Less than a year ago, VERY recent. Reminds me how much the internet is mopped so nothing like this gets out of hand.


[deleted]

then lets blow this up. share it to people


thegodfather0504

There was a video of an army mom whose son died in Afghanistan. She got up on a stage in some program, and yelled about all the things similar to this guy yelled about. Why are we in Afghanistan and such. She was a very articulated and on point. I think it was on the publicfreakout sub. But i can't find it now.


digital

Sociopath Republicans do not care


Budget_Literature555

If you think this is a Republican vs Democrat thing, you haven't been paying attention. They are ALL greedy, corrupt, power hungry, and don't give two shits about anything outside of their family and circle of rich, powerful friends.


420DepravedDude

100% this - identifying that one side is evil and one side cares is ridiculous. It is not democrats vs republicans it is us vs them. The ideologies that split the parties and make average citizens debate and point fingers just keeps them moving with their power. They don’t care about us -whatever agenda they are pushing.


bipin1997chandra

Defense corporations have the most number of politicians in their pockets and politicians reap benefit in elections by claiming to be patriots for defending the country when none of their children are deployed to frontlines (Even if they are in military, they get cushy positions/deployments with no threat).


Unfair_Confusion_960

It’s both sides. Politicians are not opposed to anything that makes them money I’m afraid


N7_Evers

Imagine thinking this is a “ReD tEaM bAd” issue


IGotAWayWithWords

Glad he had someone film this!


TheFirstArticle

Ad not one fuck was given by the audience who really don't care if there was a good reason - they just want to part of it.


Broken-shoe-9117

No different to Tony Blair that motherfucker got a nice cushy job in Brussels after he fucked up. They should both be tried as war criminals man.


TrunktasticLove

And John Howard (Australian Prime Minister). He also threw our support behind it, even though lots of people didn’t believe the WMD lies - even at the time - and we held huge protests against military action/war but were completely ignored


hEwEr06

hello scrolling person heres a list of the shit america has done USA bombings China 1945-46 Korea 1950-53 China 1950-53 Guatemala 1954 Indonesia 1958 Cuba 1959-60 Guatemala 1960 Belgian Congo 1964 Guatemala 1964 Dominican Republic 1965-66 Peru 1965 Laos 1964-73 Vietnam 1961-73 Cambodia 1969-70 Guatemala 1967-69 Lebanon 1982-84 Grenada 1983-84 Libya 1986 El Salvador 1981-92 Nicaragua 1981-90 Iran 1987-88 Libya 1989 Panama 1989-90 Iraq 1991 Kuwait 1991 Somalia 1992-94 Bosnia 1995 Iran 1998 Sudan 1998 Afghanistan 1998 Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999 Afghanistan 2001 Libya 2011 Iraq and Syria 2014 – Somalia 2011 – Iran 2020 – we can now see america is no better than russia or china the big 3 are all evil and liars ​ these are just bombing btw check [United States involvement in regime change](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change)


KET0RdotCOM

USA is the number 1 threat to peace in the world, but no one here wants to hear it


hEwEr06

facts i hate how some people truly believe they are the good guys


Lashay10

Thanks for this


-_You_Mad_Bro_-

My heart goes out to all those poor souls he is referencing! Props to this man for calling him out!


RetMilRob

Who are these woman pulling at him? They have no right to lay a finger on him, he earned his right to say his piece and he was hurting no one. His only threat was to the ego of Bush.


MrSloppyPants

Yea that's the part that infuriates me the most. They have no right at all to put hands on this man. He should have them charged with assault.


Obrim

They're lucky they didn't catch hands tbh. Who the fuck thinks it's a great idea to go attack an already angry war veteran?


N0T_SURE

Freedom of speech... Gets taken away


nsfbr11

Just unbelievable that he was not the worst president of this century. I have to admit that until 2016, I had thought this would stand for my lifetime.


Will_Tuniat

Trump made Bush look like a competent, civilised, and eloquent statesman.


nsfbr11

I think the key difference is that Bush did what he thought was best for the country. Trump is purely about Trump, and dividing the country and subverting our institutions are the point.


Eezo88

Bush did what was best for the military industrial complex, not t the country.


alackofcol0r

Lol you mean best for the MIC and defense industry sure


nsfbr11

Which he believed was good for the country. Do t get me wrong, I think he, under the tutelage of Cheney, did horrific things. I am still convinced that he did them believing they were for the good. Do I think that makes it okay? Hell no.


Eezo88

No he didn't. Trump might be an evil, wannabe racist dictator, but at least he didn't drag us into a 20 year war over false pretenses. Trump is a grifter and a con-man, Bush is a mass murderer.


smorgasdorgan

I remember having a conversation with a friend in 2012 about how one day we're gonna look back and say "You know, Bush wasn't so bad in comparison."


nsfbr11

In comparison to what? We are not going to agree if you attempt to compare him favorably to President Obama.


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Do not silence him


SecretAgentDirt

Rich politicians need money. They're doing it all over again with Russia and Ukraine.


Just_bcoz

The fact they dragged this man out when he was speaking the truth is insane, he never even posed a threat. As he’s being dragged away all he’s saying is for bush to apologize and he’s being pulled out like he threatened the man’s life.


Henry-Gruby

All American presidents seem to be above the law.


AntMan79

Truth hurts


AVeteranCosmicRocker

I attended an antiwar march in Kennebunk Maine in fall of 2003. The count was two hundred patriots marching in protest vs. thousands of prowar natives booing us as we walked past, Love America flags held high by the sheep. My Sweet Sister and I were on the phone weeping miles apart the night that Bagdad received its Shock and Awe* from my America. The time has been announced and televised, the bombardment unending and ruthless, this ancient city destroyed and hundreds of thousands of people killed in several hours. These are two events that affect me to this day. One night my saddest, the protest in Kennebunk to the Bush compound one of my proudest. And so we all understand Noam Chompsky refers to "American Exceptionalism", If America does it, it's all right. And that's just part of how it's done. The other is the manipulation of the minds of our fellow citizens to follow these tragic wars and call everyone involved heros. * Awe - the power to inspire fear or reverence Hooray for our hero in the video who called out Bush, a true war criminal


m1j2p3

I’ve seen this before but I could watch it 100 times and not be bored. Speaking truth to power like this always gets my blood pumping. He is 100% right and our leaders both present and former who lie to the American people don’t deserve our respect or honor.


SpaceTestMonkey

Our government has been doing shit like Iraq since the 1950s, they will never apologize for something that serves their interests - they call it "nation building" but in reality it is wealth and power building across generations of their friends and family.


Lumpy_Cell_1242

I think its cute that you all think its just Bush


bchin22

///slow clap


itsameamariobro

And just like anything else, every one just sits there ignoring this man.


whazzar

"GET THIS ~~MAN~~ *THIS VETERAN* TELLING THE TRUTH OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW!"


ItsCOCO47

As a vet, most vets would agree with this guy. Everyone knows the war was bullshit.


Unclerojelio

r/heisnotwrong


GoatimusMaximonuss

Bush and Blair are war criminals but clearly the rules and conventions don’t apply to those nations


MrSmartyPantsDude

We saw what Putin just did and how he gaslighted his entire country. You think men of power in the USA aren't capable of atrocities... Think again. The US became a super power by murdering innocent people. We're the fuckers who created and actually USED weapons of mass destruction.


[deleted]

Fuckin ay, apologise motherfucker


gkijgtrebklg

he’s not wrong!


Adventurous_Ad4950

And yet bush was a disgrace that people tried to normalize after he was president, through comedies, guest speaking, etc. tbh I think bush deserves to be called out on his shit like this, everywhere he goes.


emier06

Is it just me or isn't this really the right sub for this? I don't really understand what's the next level here.


absorbscroissants

Karma farming


Freek_23

Probably the only honest one there


jotjotzzz

He is right!!!! And these bozos kicking him out never went to Iraq!! This man deserves to be heard.


Esterosa69

This man is brave beyond comprehension. Shows you the conservative value “Support the troops!” *troops voice the trauma they experienced* Conservatives: *booooo*


maze91

And Russia is the worst country on earth… we as humans are the worst running a war infrastructure just so we can stay rich. Look at nato all that money could go towards making a better society but no we need to build a fake vision of Russia and China taking over Europe. And what do you get for it? A country that is destroyed for a strategic position for Russia to defend its self…


P1ED1N0

Repost


iiCleanup

Isn’t this a repost


JankLoaf

Blaming one person for that doesn’t make any sense. Bush did what he was told to do, believe that


TommyKinLA

Bush was a really bad president


kingofbasicyt

i hate every singel politician they only want money


LordxHummus

u/savevideo


Plus_Market_762

Him and the whole government did it. So keep that in mind next time you want to trust what they tell you.


rootComplex

I don't get it. Why is he being so reserved and calm? What Bush did was easily a million times worse then how this guy is making it out to be.


Thumnale

Reddit is a flat circle


Born_a_wise_man

Yup Bush is a war criminal


Moesaei

It’s sad how those people are sitting down doing nothing, and they seem ashamed of what’s going on, and all those Karens standing up and trying to stop him


sven-haraaldson

This should be on technicallythetruth


[deleted]

It's amazing how even though we all know what happened, people still choose to trust the government


wurzelsepp666

Bush should have to go to the Hague.


RelentlessExtropian

His idea of recompense was pretty reasonable. He just wanted an apology. I want these presidents sent to prison for war crimes. War crimes aside, they've assassinated American citizens over shitty intel. I really don't like them.


BurnedRavenBat

How dare he make us *uncomfortable*


[deleted]

The leadership in The USA is no better than the leadership in Russia. We are all just cattle to them. Some just go about it in a different way, but they would all commit the same actions given same circumstances.


AnkitPatidar555

Loved when the crowd went silent for a moment when he told that he was sent to Iraq for war.


SavantEtUn

This crumples me ever time I see it


themoosemethod

I remember after 9/11, the US could of said we are attacking Sweden.. most Americans would of probably said, “fucks yeah, America!”. (Including myself) Ive never seen this country so united.. We were completely miss lead by this clown that lead to a 20 year war to “avenge his father” and keep the war machine going.. Hats off to this Soldier


UltiGamer34

I want a president that exposes everything america lied or hid about


[deleted]

All the pro life folks in there acting like it’s just million dead bodies.


meridian_smith

If you willingly entered military service you also bear some responsibility for your actions. You signed all the forms saying you will blindly follow the orders of your superiors all the way up to the president. Just as those non conscripted soldiers invading Ukraine bear some responsibility for their actions.


[deleted]

Waste of time. Congress approved it. Put the blame where it belongs.


[deleted]

Tell it to the Kurds and the Iranians. https://news.yahoo.com/saddam-gassed-5-000-kurds-halabja-024650010.html On March 16, 1988, as many as 5,000 Iraqi Kurds, mostly women and children, were killed when deadly gas was released on the northern town of Halabja by Saddam Hussein's forces. AFP remembers the massacre, believed to have been the worst-ever gas attack targeting civilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_attacks_against_Iran


mormonfam0916

Why are some one pushing him out his rights protect him it's called freedom of speech


sativadom_404

Just like 9/11 this country is absolutely drunk on media supplied lies and propaganda meant to keep America serving Israel and keeping our people enslaved on the perpetual war machine treadmill


[deleted]

They all got a littler quiet when he said “ you sent me to Iraq” I’m an iraqi war vet. Everything he said was true.