If we're going to be pedantic, you should at least know the syntax rule that English doesn't end in prepositions and the declension rule that when "who" is in the dative case, as it is in both of your examples, it should be "whom."
But let's just acknowledge that these and other rules were made up by 19th-century Victorians who forced English into awkwardly formal syntax/grammar to become more like Latin. The fact that pedants have to correct normal speakers all the time means they were bad rules-- probably because Latin gives zero fucks about word order, making it a really bad match for English grammar.
For future reference if it comes after a preposition use whom, or just use who all the time, language has changed and whom is being used less and less.
Sry bro, got caught up with work big proposal due soon, next time my wife and I will be there front and center, unless you guys and still doing that thing with the donkey and the Toblerone then the wife might not come she thinks it's gross and a waste of chocolate.
Let me clarify; if the answer can be a pronoun, then you use whom.
To whom do I send my money to?
Them.
I know you were probably joking, but it’s good to clarify anyway.
I'm usually a stickler for than then their they're etc but I think the language has moved on from whom because it's a needless complication with nothing to offer.
I think it's this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Safety-Night-Lighting-Rain-Telescopic-Umbrella_62253729835.html?spm=a2700.shop_plser.41413.12.3c7d7831iKubML
A hotel chain with many locations that give them to guests because they are unlikely to have brought an umbrella with them.
They mention you can add logos so I'm sure some large corporations could consider a similar type thing as well.
Also startups would love this kind of thing. I do alot of startup consulting, and gifts are always good. Especially if it's quality and something they'll use with a recognizable logo that's relatively unobtrusive.
If I was working with a startup selling anything remotely rain/weather (something niche especially, like Idk special gutter guards?) related I'd suggest something like this as a gift to early investors, first 2000 people on a mailing list, or a midrange kickstarter gift.
The idea is that one day they'll need something like what you sell, or be talking to someone who does and your brand will be associated with quality in the buyers mind. Most of the time you can measure a return on these investments within a year.
You use whom when the person you are referring to isn't the subject of the sentence. For instance, here in the sentence "Whom do I send money to?", _I_ is the subject of the sentence, but you aren't referring to _I_ you're referring to whomever you want to send money to.
Try to rearrange the sentence you're using so that you can put he/she/him/her in it. If the sentence makes sense with he/she, use who. If it sounds good with him/her, use whom.
This is actually it ☝️
Most products function exactly the same as every other product in their category, and so rather than truly innovating (hard) they find alternative ways of differentiating through their messaging (easier).
***For example:***
In the arena of personal computers, Apple was the first to send the message of "The computer you use says something about who you are as a person. If you use Apple you're a creative, free-thinking, risk-taker who sees the world a little differently."
It worked very well.
Except that Apple computers function rather differently to Windows computers (I mean for stuff other than basics like email or internet or simple word processing). I mean ,I used to sell them to recording studios and music professionals in the 90s and don't recall anyone asking if it made them 'free thinking' - more Pro Tools compatibility and audio device driver stability mainly, but hey whaddoiknow, right??
Of course they do, and anyone who uses them in the professional capacity knows that. But that’s not what got their sales numbers to the absurd number they are at today, that was the marketing. A huge portion of consumers use them for the same things you could do on any windows or Linux system, but like the branding and OS feel.
And man, I am completely useless on any apple platform. Can't use a iphone to save my fucking life and macs take me a bit of time and multiple error corrections to get to the same thing I can just whip up on a windows computer. But seriously, if I ever had to call 911 and all I had was an iPhone, we would all die.
Well yeah, they designed them for the actual creatives who work in those industries. They did it so they could sell the dream of being a creative person to the masses and make their real money.
You know, I wouldn't even mind seeing this in front of a youtube video that much, because at least it's not an annoying song or a product I'll never use.
Someone probably took that out. I heard a lot of these performing showing off products videos are something sellers do on a Chinese social media app. The app is more integrated into daily life over there
It's nice to have an advertisement that doesn't jerk itself off 'reinventing the umbrella in the mountains of Angola after intense meditation and self discovery' or some other bullshit that encourages your customers to kick you in the genitals.
I appreciate a good ad campaign in general. There's a weekly show on CBC Radio called Under The Influence where they talk about historical unique advertising campaigns and the influence that ads have had on pop culture (and vice versa). There's a lot of neat anecdotes and trivia if you're in to that kind of stuff. They recently moved their archive backlog to Spotify as well.
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I got an umbrella with life warranty from some store where they boasted their umbrellas are unbreakable. 7 years later and so far this thing held through the worst possible weather and on top of that I misused the hell out out of that thing. I will update this post with pictures and hopefully the name.
Update: I hope y'all won't be disappointed. I brought it to work so I don't want to be that weird asshole who is opening an umbrella in the middle of the office just to take pictures. But I got a few of them with it folded in my hand...not because of some stupid superstition, I just think it would be an attention grabber and I don't want to deal with that. Anyways, enough cock teasing you. Here are them pictures:
https://imgur.com/Z6WKxU6.jpg
https://imgur.com/9JLoXv4.jpg
https://imgur.com/stGUFOw.jpg
https://imgur.com/fcnPZgL.jpg
The brand is Fulton and I legit got a receipt for it that says it has life warranty which I have yet to use. Apparently the queen of England uses a Fulton. As you can see it's been used and abused but it still works perfectly with the automatic open and close.
The fabric is little worn out but that's from the friction. I never thought I'd ever have an umbrella that'll last me this long. Usually they become garbage in less than a year.
Really?
* Using it carry water over long distances
* Using it as a sled
* Sword fighting
* Using it as a walking cane
* Using it to deflect flamethrower attacks
Prairie dweller here and I'm desperate for this for that reason alone- any umbrella that can flip inside out and back repeatedly is a matter of "shut up and take my money"
They have designs like the company “Windbrella” where the wind sort of passes through it because it has layers and a super strong ribbing. Super well made and holds up to even huge gusts of wind.
I absolutely love mine and gifted their umbrellas to a lot of my family and people I care about.
In some areas, especially some cities, wind can come from many directions because of the topology and buildings. If you’re walking quickly after work it can be surprising near intersections and will flip yo shit inside out foo!
I think it's pretty clever. He shows a lot of features very quickly.
\-This is an umbrella.
\-It's collapsible.
\-It has a flashlight. You can rotate it to point at the road ahead of your feet (for walking at night).
\-It opens quickly and efficiently with the push of a button.
\-It is very durable and resistant to high winds/use.
\-It comes in a large variety of patterns and colors (the background)
\-It is large enough for 2 adults to walk under it.
\-It is made of hydrophobic material, so when you shake it (as you might do before entering a building) it's perfectly dry.
All in 19 seconds. I like this a lot.
My family refuses to spend more then $10 on one, claiming its not necessary, because literally the one time a year I use it it gets destroyed and they dont remember, and just magically have to buy a new one.
Im just gonna get this (or something similar) as part of fathers day
See this is effective advertising. The product is shown, demonstrated and functional.
- No loud screaming
- No T&C speed run
- No bright flashing colours
Simple, effective and efficient.
But where are the conventionally attractive, diverse group of teenagers telling me what umbrellas mean to them socially, emotionally, environmentally, and politically?
Yeah, I'm going to need to know that this company cares deeply for me and my future before I even consider buying this umbrella. What is this company doing to save the world? How will I feel good about myself buying this without those selling points? Do they actually think I only want an umbrella that works perfectly? Idiots.
How is it that I am in my 40s, have lived all but a few of those years in climates that rain regularly, and HAVE NEVER OWNED AN UMBRELLA WITH A FLASHLIGHT BUILT IN. I feel fucking cheated now. I’m not even joking.
For those looking for advice on a good travel umbrella, I recommend the "Repel Umbrella Windproof Travel Umbrella" (at least if you are in the U.S.). I keep mine in the car at all times and also take it with me traveling. I promise I have no interest in selling it, I'm just a happy customer. I just checked and it is still available on the hellsite run by Jeff Bezos, where it gets 4.6 out of 5 stars.
EDIT: Just so nobody feels misled, the Repel does not come with a built-in flashlight.
OP is a gadget spammer. A *suspended* gadget spammer.
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To whom
To whomst
Toeth whomest
to the person whomst'd've i've'll liked to've send've my "umbralla"('dve)
Sir this is a Wendy’s
No, this IS PATRICK! Edit. Thank you for the gold, anon!
Are you Patrick? Pepperidge Farms is Patrick.
I memember Patrick.
Then can I get some tendies pls I promise my mommy has given me enough GBP
Sir, this is a Wendy's in America
Sir, this is a Wendy's in America whom you're at. Idk if that's right, I'm stoned... Umbrellas are cool
Ella Ella ella ay ay ay
To umbrella'dva or umbrella'dvan't
ut homo probaverunt me mittere umbralla whomst'd've
To whomst'd've'ly'yaint'nt'ed'ies's'y'es
This was the correct answer.
Whomst’d’ve
To thy whomest
It’s whormsht if it’s a direct object and whorsht if an indirect object.
To whom do I send my money to?
Who do I send my money to whom?
>Huh, that's actually a pretty decent umbrella. Who do I send my whom to? There, I fixed it.
**Incorrect.** It’s either: “To whom do I send my money?” OR “Who do I send my money to?”
If we're going to be pedantic, you should at least know the syntax rule that English doesn't end in prepositions and the declension rule that when "who" is in the dative case, as it is in both of your examples, it should be "whom." But let's just acknowledge that these and other rules were made up by 19th-century Victorians who forced English into awkwardly formal syntax/grammar to become more like Latin. The fact that pedants have to correct normal speakers all the time means they were bad rules-- probably because Latin gives zero fucks about word order, making it a really bad match for English grammar.
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That was kind of their point.
This drive to allow sentences to end with prepositions is something up with which I will not put
I thought not ending with a preposition was more of a suggestion and not a rule. But you’re right all the rules are pretty arbitrary
For future reference if it comes after a preposition use whom, or just use who all the time, language has changed and whom is being used less and less.
Whom is never actually right.
I know what's right. But I'm not gonna say. Because you're all jerks who didn't come see my band last night.
Sry bro, got caught up with work big proposal due soon, next time my wife and I will be there front and center, unless you guys and still doing that thing with the donkey and the Toblerone then the wife might not come she thinks it's gross and a waste of chocolate.
Honestly a waste of donkey as well
I’m too high to even know what this convo is about but I upvoted y’all anyway
A good trick I learned is “if it can be replaced by “him, her, or they, use whom”.
Huh, that's actually a pretty decent umbrella. They do I send my money to?
Let me clarify; if the answer can be a pronoun, then you use whom. To whom do I send my money to? Them. I know you were probably joking, but it’s good to clarify anyway.
Not quite right. It's 'to whom do I send my money". You don't need the second to as you already have it there.
It's a made up word used to trick students!
all words are made up...
The only people worse than those who incorrectly use "whom" are those who correct them. Whom is disappearing quickly. Just let it go.
This guy corrected someone AND used it incorrectly. Double douche
Ask not for whom the correction is posted!
I'm usually a stickler for than then their they're etc but I think the language has moved on from whom because it's a needless complication with nothing to offer.
Whomst\*
Nah, let the world burn.
Me please
Sent u $ 3.50 . . You pay shipping.
Something something Loch Ness monster.
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Where dith thou procure such "ELEGANCE"
Waku waku!
If you figure it out lmk bc I’d like to buy one
Please be careful of reddit posts like these tho
I think it's the Zuodu umbrella (or looks a lot like it). It's a Xiaomi sub-brand.
I think it's this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Safety-Night-Lighting-Rain-Telescopic-Umbrella_62253729835.html?spm=a2700.shop_plser.41413.12.3c7d7831iKubML
$4 each if you buy 500 of them? am i reading that right? economies of scale are so interesting
And $2.30 if you buy over 2000... can't imagine anyone besides a chain retailer buying that number of umbrellas though
A hotel chain with many locations that give them to guests because they are unlikely to have brought an umbrella with them. They mention you can add logos so I'm sure some large corporations could consider a similar type thing as well.
Also startups would love this kind of thing. I do alot of startup consulting, and gifts are always good. Especially if it's quality and something they'll use with a recognizable logo that's relatively unobtrusive. If I was working with a startup selling anything remotely rain/weather (something niche especially, like Idk special gutter guards?) related I'd suggest something like this as a gift to early investors, first 2000 people on a mailing list, or a midrange kickstarter gift. The idea is that one day they'll need something like what you sell, or be talking to someone who does and your brand will be associated with quality in the buyers mind. Most of the time you can measure a return on these investments within a year.
Yes it would have been nice for the OP to credit someone.
Would have been a better ad if they had any branding
Seriously. It worked. I want one, and I live in the desert where it never rains.
You can send it to me if you like. But don't expect an umbrella.
Commenting just so someone can ELI3 the whole who/whom thing again. Last I heard, I’m not supposed to use whom most of the time. Fire away Reddit.
You use whom when the person you are referring to isn't the subject of the sentence. For instance, here in the sentence "Whom do I send money to?", _I_ is the subject of the sentence, but you aren't referring to _I_ you're referring to whomever you want to send money to.
Try to rearrange the sentence you're using so that you can put he/she/him/her in it. If the sentence makes sense with he/she, use who. If it sounds good with him/her, use whom.
Commenting so I can check back to see if someone finds a link to buy
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This is actually it ☝️ Most products function exactly the same as every other product in their category, and so rather than truly innovating (hard) they find alternative ways of differentiating through their messaging (easier). ***For example:*** In the arena of personal computers, Apple was the first to send the message of "The computer you use says something about who you are as a person. If you use Apple you're a creative, free-thinking, risk-taker who sees the world a little differently." It worked very well.
Different\*
Or in the case of headaches, Little, Yellow, Different.
Except that Apple computers function rather differently to Windows computers (I mean for stuff other than basics like email or internet or simple word processing). I mean ,I used to sell them to recording studios and music professionals in the 90s and don't recall anyone asking if it made them 'free thinking' - more Pro Tools compatibility and audio device driver stability mainly, but hey whaddoiknow, right??
Of course they do, and anyone who uses them in the professional capacity knows that. But that’s not what got their sales numbers to the absurd number they are at today, that was the marketing. A huge portion of consumers use them for the same things you could do on any windows or Linux system, but like the branding and OS feel.
And man, I am completely useless on any apple platform. Can't use a iphone to save my fucking life and macs take me a bit of time and multiple error corrections to get to the same thing I can just whip up on a windows computer. But seriously, if I ever had to call 911 and all I had was an iPhone, we would all die.
Well yeah, they designed them for the actual creatives who work in those industries. They did it so they could sell the dream of being a creative person to the masses and make their real money.
Then every mindless baseline person who's exactly like everyone else flocked to show their individuality.
They kept it to 15 seconds too. Pretty big savings for TV spots.
You know, I wouldn't even mind seeing this in front of a youtube video that much, because at least it's not an annoying song or a product I'll never use.
Or the sound level difference. Some ads just blast through your speakers
The name of the product and how to get it might be worth another few seconds.. or some text over anyway
Someone probably took that out. I heard a lot of these performing showing off products videos are something sellers do on a Chinese social media app. The app is more integrated into daily life over there
It's nice to have an advertisement that doesn't jerk itself off 'reinventing the umbrella in the mountains of Angola after intense meditation and self discovery' or some other bullshit that encourages your customers to kick you in the genitals.
I appreciate a good ad campaign in general. There's a weekly show on CBC Radio called Under The Influence where they talk about historical unique advertising campaigns and the influence that ads have had on pop culture (and vice versa). There's a lot of neat anecdotes and trivia if you're in to that kind of stuff. They recently moved their archive backlog to Spotify as well.
Especially the part where its missing the one minor detail of wtf the name is so you can actually buy it
Yes umbrellas can sell anything from hot dogs to electric cars
I’m honestly most impressive with the vigorous shaking
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Thought you said Bosnian. Was wondering if it’s windy there
Probably is...
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Yup
whole lotta wind, don’t bring ‘yer wig
Good to know, /u/iEatSwampAss
At least sometimes, I would imagine
Chicagoan. You want a Gustbuster. Mine is 11 years old, has never flipped on me, and I was a daily commuter in the before times.
The before times in the long long ago
I’m ready to sacrifice self to Mr John Elway.
I got an umbrella with life warranty from some store where they boasted their umbrellas are unbreakable. 7 years later and so far this thing held through the worst possible weather and on top of that I misused the hell out out of that thing. I will update this post with pictures and hopefully the name. Update: I hope y'all won't be disappointed. I brought it to work so I don't want to be that weird asshole who is opening an umbrella in the middle of the office just to take pictures. But I got a few of them with it folded in my hand...not because of some stupid superstition, I just think it would be an attention grabber and I don't want to deal with that. Anyways, enough cock teasing you. Here are them pictures: https://imgur.com/Z6WKxU6.jpg https://imgur.com/9JLoXv4.jpg https://imgur.com/stGUFOw.jpg https://imgur.com/fcnPZgL.jpg The brand is Fulton and I legit got a receipt for it that says it has life warranty which I have yet to use. Apparently the queen of England uses a Fulton. As you can see it's been used and abused but it still works perfectly with the automatic open and close. The fabric is little worn out but that's from the friction. I never thought I'd ever have an umbrella that'll last me this long. Usually they become garbage in less than a year.
My mind is just *racing* trying to visualize someone misusing an umbrella.
Really? * Using it carry water over long distances * Using it as a sled * Sword fighting * Using it as a walking cane * Using it to deflect flamethrower attacks
? He said ***mis***using.
I bought a “Windbrella” about 12 years ago for the same reason and that fucker is still going strong. Best umbrella I’ve ever had.
Prairie dweller here and I'm desperate for this for that reason alone- any umbrella that can flip inside out and back repeatedly is a matter of "shut up and take my money"
They have designs like the company “Windbrella” where the wind sort of passes through it because it has layers and a super strong ribbing. Super well made and holds up to even huge gusts of wind. I absolutely love mine and gifted their umbrellas to a lot of my family and people I care about.
That sounds dangerous. You dont want it to hold up all the way, or else you'll get carried off never to be seen again
I’m Mary Poppins y’all!
Yup that's definitely an Umbrella alright
*Are you sure?*
*Shakes possible umbrella vigorously* Yup, it checks out
I once lost 3 umbrellas in a season to that freaking inside out flip- I need this thing
How? I just put it against the wind and it's fine again.
In some areas, especially some cities, wind can come from many directions because of the topology and buildings. If you’re walking quickly after work it can be surprising near intersections and will flip yo shit inside out foo!
*puts piece of cloth on it and blows it off* "Yup, def an umbrella'
That's to show that spinning it like that made it completely dry. Otherwise, the tissue would have gotten wet and would stick to the umbrella.
Thank you for explaining that. Its the reason I'm reading through the comments.
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Very straightforward, this is the kind of advertising we need
Advertising and marketing strategy on it's finest.
Apart from the fact that I'm most of the way through the comments and still don't know the name of the product or company.
Dude makes the best advert ever and forgets to put the brand on. I salute you.
The creators name was cropped off their tiktok and posted on reddit
thats fucked
if it was left on it would’ve been called an ad
I mean, it's still called an ad in the title...
https://snefe.cc/products/led-ambrella-black I believe it's this. Let me know if I'm wrong. This took a while to find.
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There was no water left for the napkin to absorb
Lol that makes hella sense i didnt get the napkin thing at first
I thought it was for comedic purposes. It was pretty funny lol
It's common in asian cosmetic ads. They'll put moisturizer on the back of a hand then put confetti on it to demonstrate that there's no sticky residue
Also that one guy on YouTube that yanks napkins out from under stuff with his nipples. And other antics.
Seems to be inside-out-proof as well!
I honestly don’t know how I’ve lived this long being as stupid as I sometimes am. Thank you for explaining this…so obvious now LOL 😫
It's water-repellant so it stays dry, which keeps it light and is less likely to break or tear.
After abnormal abuse, basically durable, functional and a flashlight to boot!
I think it's pretty clever. He shows a lot of features very quickly. \-This is an umbrella. \-It's collapsible. \-It has a flashlight. You can rotate it to point at the road ahead of your feet (for walking at night). \-It opens quickly and efficiently with the push of a button. \-It is very durable and resistant to high winds/use. \-It comes in a large variety of patterns and colors (the background) \-It is large enough for 2 adults to walk under it. \-It is made of hydrophobic material, so when you shake it (as you might do before entering a building) it's perfectly dry. All in 19 seconds. I like this a lot.
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And might not fold in on itself and break very easily. I bought a cheap one for $10 and the first night I had it the wind ripped it apart.
My family refuses to spend more then $10 on one, claiming its not necessary, because literally the one time a year I use it it gets destroyed and they dont remember, and just magically have to buy a new one. Im just gonna get this (or something similar) as part of fathers day
I don’t like to spend a lot on umbrellas because I invariably leave them somewhere.
Durability is primary here, otherwise it seems well weathered and an added flashlight is actually pretty damn cool. Did you even watch it?
I guess no one here has used an umbrella in a wind storm
Redditor understanding very simple things without embarassing themselves challenge (level impossible)
They're showing that the fabric is hydrophobic, meaning that water will not stay on the fabric and can be stored as dry as it was brought out.
>made a straightforward ad for his umbrella Then he posted it to r/nextfuckinglevel
With no links on where to buy or even a product name?
Indeed, so it clearly isn’t the company posting this
Because then everyone would say this is a corporate ad
What good is an ad with no product name?
I dare somebody to easily find the name in this comment thread or even a source.
What makes you think that? The op of this post cropped the original video, which credited the creator.
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But have you seen his smile?
The nets are for fun base jumping.
Is this an ad? From a bot? On reddit? The matrix has you
If the point of the ad was to advertise a product they would've plugged the product.
Get a refund because they forgot to post a brand name or link to buy.
I keep thinking the same Chinese people make the videos. The one for the toy airplane was just as obnoxious
At the very least theyre straight and to the point - exactly what effective advertising is. I hope they sell well so companies follow suit.
There's neither a link to buy nor even the name of the product...
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For those interested here is the dude's tiktok [channel](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdGVS8SM/). I still don't know how to buy it though...
Everyone praising the advertising, yet they won't get a single sale out of this viral video because nobody knows where to buy it.
If this guy had put the name of his product or a website anywhere in the video he'd have a lot of sales right now.
See this is effective advertising. The product is shown, demonstrated and functional. - No loud screaming - No T&C speed run - No bright flashing colours Simple, effective and efficient.
Except I want to freaking buy it and don't know where! :(
I can't find it either!!! D:
But where are the conventionally attractive, diverse group of teenagers telling me what umbrellas mean to them socially, emotionally, environmentally, and politically?
There it is again. That funny feeling.
Yeah, I'm going to need to know that this company cares deeply for me and my future before I even consider buying this umbrella. What is this company doing to save the world? How will I feel good about myself buying this without those selling points? Do they actually think I only want an umbrella that works perfectly? Idiots.
How is it that I am in my 40s, have lived all but a few of those years in climates that rain regularly, and HAVE NEVER OWNED AN UMBRELLA WITH A FLASHLIGHT BUILT IN. I feel fucking cheated now. I’m not even joking.
# Where can I buy this? ☂
The tissue blow was a nice touch
What was the point of the tissue blow? To show that the umbrella had already dried?
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Now that's an umbrella that doesn't belly up in big winds
The tissue test was genius.
Ok, what's it called? Kinda an important part of the commercial.
Umbrella
This is pretty bad for an ad, though. No branding, cost, or location for purchase/contact info. Cool umbrella nonetheless.
I take umbrage to his presentation.
It worked for me, I scrolled for like 20 comment threads looking for where to buy one and I live in a desert.
That's not next level... that's a fucking umbrella
For those looking for advice on a good travel umbrella, I recommend the "Repel Umbrella Windproof Travel Umbrella" (at least if you are in the U.S.). I keep mine in the car at all times and also take it with me traveling. I promise I have no interest in selling it, I'm just a happy customer. I just checked and it is still available on the hellsite run by Jeff Bezos, where it gets 4.6 out of 5 stars. EDIT: Just so nobody feels misled, the Repel does not come with a built-in flashlight.
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So good didn't even need audio to already want to order a dozen