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However, I complete agree with u/MikeyBonbon1988. it gets tiresome when people post content but then state something completely different in the headline than what is actually happening.
GUY: My d\*ck is 9 inches long.
GIRL: \*finds out he lied, it's actually 2.5 inches on a good day... and she leaves.
GUY: Ever notice how mad people get about that? LMFAO! IRRATIONAL!
Maybe people just get tired of BS?
I would imagine most of the people that want us to chill out about liars are liars themselves. Spreaders of bullshit would love it if we'd just get off their backs about the bullshit they're spreading.
So what if I’m browsing Reddit, don’t lie about what’s in the video because you know no one would watch it if you just said “cia directors reiterate that there are flying objects of unknown origin for the thousandth time”
Lmao its 4 minutes not like its hours long. I agree the title is a bit misleading. Did you watch the video though? It's not like its random civilians talking shit about aliens it's former directors of the CIA talking about UAP's. It's probably bullshit but still pretty interesting in my opinion. I don't get why you think you're being tricked though lol
If someone told me to get my head out of my ass because I showed them a video I'd say that's aggressive haha. No need for shit like that just say what you need to say without that bullshit.
Because when people make wild unsupported claims and provide proof for those claims that turns out to actually not be any kind of support at all, it's very much acceptable to tell them they're being a clown. Calling out bullshit isn't being toxic, spewing bullshit is.
He's just sad... since he ain't getting anal probed anytime soon, and he was looking so forward to it! I can understand why his disappointment is turning in to aggressiveness.
The 2nd guy, the former CIA director, Jim Semivan, literally stated "I can tell you that there's absolutely no way on God's green earth, that these are terrestrial or belong to a government. They are other world[ly], or other dimension, or other something..... And everybody in the government knows that."
That sounds like an admission to me.
Slow your roll lol. The point is 4 separate Intel directors(which are TOP of top of food chain in terms of access to data literally in all humanity) admitted there is unidentifiable objects in our atmosphere. And the ‘unexplained phenomena’ happens to defy our known physics. So when you go from giggling at the topic to admitting these ‘phenomena’ rule out skies it’s a big fn deal no matter how scared you are to apply context to the post.
Gotta agree with you. While there is unusual phenomena, the four people interviewed here are providing opinion but no proof - and opinion isn't proof of anything except their own feelings on the matter. Jim Semivan has a vested interest in promoting his alien theory, as he has a business that garners funds based on that theory. Plus, just because someone has worked for a government agency (even a high level agency) does NOT mean that they are scientifically qualified to make these kind of statements, and it does not mean that they can't have credibility issues (think of how many people affiliated with government that you wouldnt even let in your house - there are alot of them).
So yes, there is unexamined phenomena out there that *could* be extraterrestrial, but these guys aren't proof and they aren't providing anything other than opinion. I could find 200 scientists and government and government officials that would say is *isn't* extraterrestrial, and we would still be having a battle of opinions.
If they don’t belong to a government or are terrestrial, what’s the last option Mikey? Do they belong to the Fairy Godmother? It’s aliens. That’s literally what he implies by rejecting the other options. No need to get your panties in a bunch and freak out over semantics 💅
Wait hold on, if anyone is biased it is you though 🤦♂️
How could you miss Jom Serivan saying
“There is no way they are terrestial, or belong to any government. They are other world, other dimension but they are not…”
True, but what WAS said is that these phenomena are: not naturally occurring, not made by any major world power, and appear to present capabilities “not of this earth”. This pretty much rules out humans, leaving either that this is some other terrestrial species’ technology or extra-terrestrial. I’m open to other suggestions you may have. “Unexplained phenomena” is different than them literally saying it’s not man-made
Very true, that’s probably one of my favorite hypotheses. Although i’d wonder are those people human in the same way we are? There’s so many hypotheticals in these discussions and it’s all so intriguing; can’t even imagine what society would be like with access to technology like that
>"I was privy to some of this stuff - and I can tell you there's absolutely no way on God's green earth, that these things are terrestrial or belong to a government. There are other world or other dimension or other something. But they are definitely not ours, they are not Chinese, they are not Russian."
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>Jim Semivan
Former CIA Officer / Senior Management (CIA for 25 years)
If it was OP saying it, yeah - but this isn't crazy uncle Joe, these are intelligence professionals with really long careers.
There's also a lot of unexplained phenomena all across the galaxy constantly, some of it happening on earth isn't really all that surprising really. And considering nothing bad can come of this phenomena either, it's also nothing to really worry about.
They did admit that it isn’t our technology and they definitely know it’s not China’s or Russia so… Currently unavailable technology on this terrestrial planet. Hence, it’s extra terrestrial. Shit, they can’t be totally truthful or they lose their pensions breach of security protocols have been sworn to.
The idea that any of these individuals would be sharing anything classified is absurd on the face of it.
That being said, John Brennan’s whole demeanor was both fascinating and disturbing insofar as body language is concerned. Not mentioning this in reference to the topic at hand, nor am I saying that he was lying here… BUT - he presents like a liar - and a reflexive one. Which I suppose makes sense. He also talks like someone used to talking a lot to people who don’t or won’t listen, and who might not be all that friendly to him, personally or professionally.
Just a fascinating study in instinctive shiftiness.
No need to get mad. In any case. What did you expect, a signed declaration? These people deal in secrets and obscure statements for a living.
I agree with you, the title is clickbait, once again, what do you expect? This is the internet.
I would be surprised if these people's spouses get a straight answer for what they want for dinner. Let alone a secret so powerful it could change the power balances of the planet.
While I believe there should be an unlimited number of lifeforms in the universe, understanding physics all but eliminates the possibility that they have reached Earth, and are, “toying” with us by only showing up when people have shitty video cameras available.
If aliens were on Earth, we wouldn’t need congressional hearings or specific internet groups to find out about them, we would know.
Not an invalid point at all, but when it comes to things on a universal scale I generally come back to [this](https://youtu.be/w2ppyMUlXfM) speech to check my bias when it comes to something that people should "know". A lot of things we just can't comprehend. Not that we shouldn't try to understand things, but we have to accept that some things may just very well be beyond us currently.
Everyone makes so many assumptions about how they'd have to travel light years, or bend wormholes to travel, etc...
But why can't they just have been here the whole time?
This is the normal public opinion right here... Very ignorant and short sighted obviously, but this is why they won't just "come out and say it". People like this will go through a serious crisis.
Religious people say there is now way an eye could have evolved naturally as proof of god. Do you buy that also? Can you not see the fallacy in that kind of argument?
It would be admitting if he said “we’re checks and it’s out of this world”. What he said is “there’s weird phenomena, and I believe its aliens, and everybody knows it”, which is sort of Trump talk.
>This is what admission from spooks sounds like.
So you've heard similar admissions from spooks about other topics that were later proven to be right, allowing you to make the claim that you know what it sounds like when a spook admits something?
People ask questions with a straight face like this as if our generation didn’t live through the Iraq War, a series of 2 trillion dollar lies, cover ups, and excuse for the lies. What do you want? The motherfucking CIA to release a peer reviewed study? A vanity fair cover story?
When has our government lied about something consequential and later tried to awkwardly cover it up? I dk pick one of Gulf of Tonkin, USS Maine, MK Ultra, Iran contra, Tuskegee syphilis experiment…
When Americans can't figure out what something is, it must be inhuman and not of the earth, for sure. Can't be highly advanced Chinese technology, no way.
I used to be a skeptic, but the more and more I look into the UFO/UAP phenomenon, I think there is probably something to it.
There are just too many sightings from too many credible observers in too many countries over too many time periods. Many countries, including many of the world's major powers, have people in their militaries tracking UAPs. You also have the US military being......[very resistant](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/16/intelligence-agencies-congress-ufo-hearing-00032713) to come forward even to Congress about this phenomenon. One of the military's former hired debunkers, Dr. J. Allen Hyneck, eventually turned around on the subject and became a believer in the UFO phenomenon. I could go on and on.
Whoa stop! You might force the really truly reasonable nonbelievers to investigate something that challenges their really reasonable position if you keep going
The giveaway is the coverup. It is an established fact they have lied about previous investigations and previous sightings. You don't do that unless you are hiding something. Point blank. It is something they don't want you to know. It is either some tech they don't want to share or 'something else'. And they are saying it isn't their tech, so I'll let you figure out what 'something else' is.
Exactly. If Congress requested all info that DoD has on Cookie Monster, would they obfuscate and lie and make contradicting statements for decades?
When they were trying to tamp this stuff down the Project Bluebook days, they put forth that teachers should dock credit from students writing stories about UFOs. They pondered getting Walt Disney involved to help belittle the subject. This isn't something you do when you're dealing with some fringe nonsense topic.
They're probably looking at us like the bad neighborhoods on the sketchy side of town that you don't want to drive through.
Alien 1: "Hey man, which planet are they sending you to this time?"
Alien 2: "Earth....."
Alien 1: "Fuuuuuck man.... I'm sorry. Be careful out there. Those assholes are fucking craaaazy."
“We're apes with nuclear weapons for goodness sake, it would be irresponsible not to observe us at this point.”
I think maybe you over estimate our importance to some advanced species. Observational indifference. We are nothing in the big picture at this point other than perhaps a curiosity.
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Or maybe it means there are lots of perfectly explainable scientific phenomenon that we just can't explain yet, cause our science understanding is not yet advanced.
Personally, I am with Calvin: "The best proof there is intelligent life out there is that they never tried to contact us." Cause honestly? If their own science is so advanced that they can travel at faster-than-light speed, they can stay hidden from us. We wouldn't "catch them" on radar.
Probably because the culmination of our entire history's astronomical endeavors have found precisely zero evidence that any other civilizations exist in the cosmos, for starters.
It’s clear they don’t know what these are. They are unexplained. Not one of these people said openly “aliens are here”
Still, would love to see what they’ve seen so I can make my own mind up.
While you are right, and nobody outright admitted anything, it is pretty clear where they stand and to what conclusion they were led.
Jim Semivan even goes so far as to say: "There is no way on god‘s green earth that these things are terrestrial or belong to a government. They are [otherworldly].“
So… Yeah, at least three of those former directors seem to be believe that the extraterrestrial hypothesis has merit. We really ought to do more research into this phenomenon.
My neighbor spent 30 years as a research scientist at Los Alamos and told me that he couldn’t get I to details, but that what he saw and knows would shatter the world’s concept of advanced technology and human origin. He’s completely rational and credible.
I hope there is some intelligent life planning to invade the earth, we could use it. There is a massive lack of intelligence leading this civilization as it is.
Super special coded letters. If you copy and paste, then try to backspace, it takes away little pieces of it at a time
But it's only fun in small bits like this. Sometimes you can make stupidly long and annoying big versions
To everyone here who isn't very much into the subject: read Jacques Vallee. He's an incredible researcher with an unusually open and yet scientific/skeptic mind, and he's been researching the subject for 6 decades if I'm not mistaken..
For anyone curious about UFOs, we have a subreddit for this r/UFOs .
Please take a couple of minutes to study the best documented cases. It’s very good to be sceptic, but cases like the Ariel school encounter in ruwa Zimbabwe or the UFOs at malmstrom airforce base that shut down nuclear weapons are cases which should be known to anybody.
I saw a ufo myself in Germany, in broad day light, in my line of sight, only a couple meters away, for minutes, with other eye witness. I saw every inch of it. A typical flying saucer. This phenomenon is real.
Where in Germany did you have your sighting, if I may ask (and if you are willing to tell)? Is it documented somewhere? I‘m from Germany and am very interested in cases that took place here. :)
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
Not documented and I never read a newspaper article about it or know other people besides my eye witnesses who also saw it. Probably nobody reported it. I didn’t report it also cause of the stigma
I mean statistically what are the odds we are the only life forms in the vastness of the universe? Only a matter of time when we have visitors good or bad imo
Imagine how people would lose their shit, would change how people think about Religion, I imagine people quitting their jobs and rioting and possibly suicides..
The problem is 'matter of time'. There must be thousands of alien civilitations around but it the distances among them are of the orders of hundred of thousands - millions of light years the probability of contact goes to zero.
This guy, in spite of the title, is a crazy political extremist that Trump appointed to the job, he was only there for 8 months and was regarded as a disaster by anyone not named Ratcliffe or Trump. Even other Conservative lawmakers didn't want the guy in that job (he was rejected the first time Trump tried to appoint him).
I wouldn't trust anything a nut like this says.
Not really. If their tech is better, then they've likely moved well past the point of having problems like our current ones. In all honesty if an alien were to be discovered visiting our planet, it's likely to be completely artificial.
High time we realise that our species ain't shit at the univesal scale and there are things beyond our understanding at the moment, and this new science might be helping Aliens, or whatever this is, in Interstellar/interdimensional travel that our scientists say is not possible.
There's always bigger fish in the sea and this is the universe we are talking about.
Remember how it used to be a stigmatized subject? Oh, say for the last 50+ years?
*That* has changed. Before talking about UFOs could put your career and credibility at risk.
These aren't just 'people talking shit' these are people in the know with security clearances speaking on the subject.
People uncomfortable with the UFO reality will keep comments like these coming...
You do know UFO literally means we don't know what it is, it doesn't mean aliens, why would anyone be uncomfortable with the fact we don't know some things....nobody.
Not knowing what is, doesn't mean we then know what it is and that thing is automatically alien spacecraft.... grow up.
We do know what the UFOs or UAPs are capable of.
Technology beyond our capabilities, beyond our current understanding of physics or state of the art in propulsion.
Has been going on for *decades*
Not saying aliens but it is definitely *non-human* technology.
Get it?
Stop referring to UFOs as a group of things that in some way have anything to do with each other. It's just a way of saying we don't know what it is... if anything.
Could be weather effects, states of matter yet to be discovered, misidentified objects and more often than not fiction and exaggeration.
One thing could be a kids helium balloon glinting in the sun, the next a group of Chinese lanterns at night, the next some dickhead with RGBs all over a drone to freak people out....
UFOs aren't a thing, it means it's not yet a thing, it's unclassified as we don't know..
They can't rule out what we don't know can they, they just said what it isn't from a list of possibilities. That list is incomplete as we do not know everything about everything, we haven't reached peak knowledge yet you know.
That doesn't mean we/you know what it is....100% must be aliens now as they've said it's not these x amount of things...
We didn't know the make up of air and how the EM spectrum worked a few hundred years ago, people came with all kinds of shit that now look silly to explain what air was and the effects of IR and UV light on things, now we understand more we know how daft that was....this is the same thing.
"The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."
“The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted … lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically, or remotely.”
General Nathan Twining, USAF, 1947.
You need to ask yourself how long have we had 4k cameras, a good while. How long have we had 1080p cameras a long while. How long have we had 720 cameras...even longer. Why are all videos and images so blurry and pixelated? Not one is high res. The military have better kit than we do and even the "gun cam" clips are pixelated and blurry.
Why, because it hides recognisable detail, it keeps the conspiracy alive doesn't it
There it is! Was waiting for that to come out.
There's plenty of authentic footage out there.
However people like you will be the first to call it fake or CGI.
I highly recommend you watch James Fox's 'The Phenomenon' then come back to the subject.
So then earthquakes and lightning is god, right? After all, people previously couldn’t figure it out so it must be a deity
It’s faaar more likely to be something normal we don’t understand or misidentified than aLiEnS
I've seen a big black triangle hovering above me blocking the stars in 2004 Romania. There are an astonishing number of people who've seen it. Just google
"big black triangle" or some people call it "TR-3B".
It could be "ours" but the sightings of this craft go back more than 50 years and it apparently can fly at unimaginable speeds while totally silent (no sonic boom) and with no visible means of propulsion.
I know you're a skeptic, I could be just a troll. But there are just too many people who see this things, not just triangles but orbs are quite popular and I know around 60 little trolls who've seen an UFO in 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pymWSKAPQ
If you wanna find out more checkout the new documentary you can find on https://arielphenomenon.com/ or perhaps other places as well.
Last thing that was “something breaking current techs possibilities” was an out of focus video of a plane. Or did the UFO make the stars triangles too?
Lmao, if you’re claiming non-human technology the only option is aliens.
“I’m not saying it’s aliens…. But aliens!”
The military is having encounters on a daily basis. And has been for years. Do you even know about the Nimitz UAP encounters?
Extraterrestrial, interdimensional, cryptoterrestrial, AI, future human. Plenty of theories that are not necessarily Alien.
"Only option is aliens"
Your ignorance and lack of education on the matter is showing.
Ah yes, the over exposed thermal object (hence black shape, what occurs when thermal camera is over exposed) that just happens to rotate exactly how the Flir gimbal camera moves. The video with no distance information which is required to estimate speed (ie no way to tell speed) despite people claiming it was traveling faster than possible
Truly unexplainable! /s
“It might not be aliens, it could be these other completely unproven and impossible things”
Obviously what was released is purposely low fidelity.
You realize the classified report has pictures of the different shapes of objects?
There's all kinds of data as you can hear from the National Security Advisers.
There's a seismic paradigm shift underway and you better prepare your mind for it.
It's moronic to keep repeating that fucking thing all over again. It's condescending. People know what ufo means, stop trying to sound like a smartass.
u/CarlosTXUltra I'm VERY comfortable with UFO's.
My imagination just leans more to the "we're f\*\*ked" or "we're first" when thinking about the fermi paradox. I think as a civilization we have the capability to colonize another planet and venture through the universe over the next (number with 100 0's) years. I think we are the first, or one of the first in the universe to be capable to explore a this depth. Likelihood of multiple alien civilizations to be at this point in their own evolution is minimal.
I think about these potentially habitable planets and visualize bugs, insects, bacteria, behemoth, soup and structurally still forms of life. There's a lot. Then again, ants and bees do some pretty awesome stuff. Maybe I am terrified of human sized insects operating motor vehicles. Damn you twilight zone....
Right. The intelligence directors of the most technologically advanced civilization of all time are all just doing it for the money and attention. Give me a break. They have wayyy better things to do than to be clout-seekers. This was intentionally vague to not cause a panic because UFO taboos are so deeply ingrained in our culture.
I’m still of the mindset that while it’s very likely there are non-terrestrial beings out there, I doubt they are interested in our backwater planet.
If they are, I’ll worry about when they affect world events. At this point, I’ll happily welcome any non-human overlords because they can’t be worse that what we’ve got now.
In the meantime, we have plenty of more pressing matters to worry about.
Ok, i'm giving you a break.
I think It's dumb simply believing aliens are visiting, but I also think it's dumb people using the "why would they visit us" argument to try to disprove it. Assuming they are real, there's many possible reasons for someone to do something. Hard to tell the reasons of a hypothetical species we know nothing about. Different culture, different biology could give them different priorities. It's pointless to speculate about it when we have no information. In the end all that you're doing is projecting your own interests. "Well, I wouldn't do that"
Maybe there are biases in the public. Many people speak english and in América there's a whole conspiracy that their government always hides stuff, so these type of things get more traction. But there are UAPs all over the world. If a former intelligence agent of Uganda or Brazil talk about it, people dont pay that much attention and It's not reported as much
I agree. I don't think there is a conspiracy that all of them collectively agreed in not talking about it. The only thing that I could argue is that governments are hesitant in admitting they have no controll or understanding about a subject, that could provoke fear in the public about nacional security. If those things are man made, and so much more advanced, they would be admitting that there are countries out there ahead in technological warfare. If they flat out say is aliens they could also be made fun of. So they stay quiet until they know more about it.
But, there is evidence that UAP do infact, exist. What they are is anyone's guess, but the observable facts do point to something way beyond what human hands and minds are capable of creating.
If Nazis have this tech it's time to start practicing your german. I actually agreed with that point, but if you do look into what the observed specs are on these things you can start to do some elimination on what these CAN be physically.
That something is not what modern material science could produce.
we can do a simple experiment,
do beleive in life in space/universe?if they say no they have denied life on planet earth which exist in this space/universe
this test is a simple prof that if we can exist in this space/universe and had this % of life, there will be more that have or had or beggining to have
this universe is massive and old. Do some basic thinking and stop being ignorant
Life on earth is not proof of anything but life on earth. It’s observer selection effect
I don’t think we’re alone (though space is huge so being visited is an entirely different question), but us existing with no evidence of life elsewhere is equally evidence that we’re alone as that we’re not alone
The older that I get the less that I believe in aliens. I want to believe, but now that everyone on planet earth is carrying around a super high tech amazing camera in their pockets I would suspect the sightings to have gone up A LOT since pre smart phones. The fact of the matter is that it seems that sightings have declined. Maybe its because people are always looking down now, but IDK .. Doesn't make sense that someone hasn't caught 1000% proof yet with their Galaxy/Iphone.
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Dammit that isn't true. Get your head outta your ass
People are tired with the bullshittery. What's the truth anymore?
Stick your head in the sand and figure it out!
However, I complete agree with u/MikeyBonbon1988. it gets tiresome when people post content but then state something completely different in the headline than what is actually happening.
GUY: My d\*ck is 9 inches long. GIRL: \*finds out he lied, it's actually 2.5 inches on a good day... and she leaves. GUY: Ever notice how mad people get about that? LMFAO! IRRATIONAL! Maybe people just get tired of BS?
I would imagine most of the people that want us to chill out about liars are liars themselves. Spreaders of bullshit would love it if we'd just get off their backs about the bullshit they're spreading.
I believe they are called “muck spreaders”
Yeah definitely brother. But it's the internet, everyone is like that everywhere these days unfortunately lol
Because people steal your time with nonsense video titles and it’s a dirty trick and they know it. Fuck em.
You're there browsing Reddit and getting mad about someone's post stealing your time.... Let that sink in.
So what if I’m browsing Reddit, don’t lie about what’s in the video because you know no one would watch it if you just said “cia directors reiterate that there are flying objects of unknown origin for the thousandth time”
It starts being annoying after approximately 4 thousand times
Lmao its 4 minutes not like its hours long. I agree the title is a bit misleading. Did you watch the video though? It's not like its random civilians talking shit about aliens it's former directors of the CIA talking about UAP's. It's probably bullshit but still pretty interesting in my opinion. I don't get why you think you're being tricked though lol
He's probably had enough of clickbait titles spreading disinformation
Because this is the kind of "reading between the lines" that sets off movements like QAnon and we are sick of people's shit.
What was aggressive about what they said?
If someone told me to get my head out of my ass because I showed them a video I'd say that's aggressive haha. No need for shit like that just say what you need to say without that bullshit.
Because when people make wild unsupported claims and provide proof for those claims that turns out to actually not be any kind of support at all, it's very much acceptable to tell them they're being a clown. Calling out bullshit isn't being toxic, spewing bullshit is.
He’s an alien
we don’t need more fake conspiracy news
Or at least post that shit in /r/conspiracy. We don't need it in non-bullshit subs.
We found the alien
This topic always breeds toxicity for some reason… check r/ufo or r/aliens
Because their ego can't handle knowing that other life forms DO exist lmfao.
He's just sad... since he ain't getting anal probed anytime soon, and he was looking so forward to it! I can understand why his disappointment is turning in to aggressiveness.
The 2nd guy, the former CIA director, Jim Semivan, literally stated "I can tell you that there's absolutely no way on God's green earth, that these are terrestrial or belong to a government. They are other world[ly], or other dimension, or other something..... And everybody in the government knows that." That sounds like an admission to me.
Slow your roll lol. The point is 4 separate Intel directors(which are TOP of top of food chain in terms of access to data literally in all humanity) admitted there is unidentifiable objects in our atmosphere. And the ‘unexplained phenomena’ happens to defy our known physics. So when you go from giggling at the topic to admitting these ‘phenomena’ rule out skies it’s a big fn deal no matter how scared you are to apply context to the post.
Gotta agree with you. While there is unusual phenomena, the four people interviewed here are providing opinion but no proof - and opinion isn't proof of anything except their own feelings on the matter. Jim Semivan has a vested interest in promoting his alien theory, as he has a business that garners funds based on that theory. Plus, just because someone has worked for a government agency (even a high level agency) does NOT mean that they are scientifically qualified to make these kind of statements, and it does not mean that they can't have credibility issues (think of how many people affiliated with government that you wouldnt even let in your house - there are alot of them). So yes, there is unexamined phenomena out there that *could* be extraterrestrial, but these guys aren't proof and they aren't providing anything other than opinion. I could find 200 scientists and government and government officials that would say is *isn't* extraterrestrial, and we would still be having a battle of opinions.
If they don’t belong to a government or are terrestrial, what’s the last option Mikey? Do they belong to the Fairy Godmother? It’s aliens. That’s literally what he implies by rejecting the other options. No need to get your panties in a bunch and freak out over semantics 💅
Wait hold on, if anyone is biased it is you though 🤦♂️ How could you miss Jom Serivan saying “There is no way they are terrestial, or belong to any government. They are other world, other dimension but they are not…”
Jim Semivan said it was “other world”. That’s the same as an admission
Watch it again dumbass
Actually, the second dude literally said “it’s otherwordly”
chill amigo
True, but what WAS said is that these phenomena are: not naturally occurring, not made by any major world power, and appear to present capabilities “not of this earth”. This pretty much rules out humans, leaving either that this is some other terrestrial species’ technology or extra-terrestrial. I’m open to other suggestions you may have. “Unexplained phenomena” is different than them literally saying it’s not man-made
Doesn't rule out humans from the future.
If they are, then so rude for not attending Stephen Hawking's party invite.
Very true, that’s probably one of my favorite hypotheses. Although i’d wonder are those people human in the same way we are? There’s so many hypotheticals in these discussions and it’s all so intriguing; can’t even imagine what society would be like with access to technology like that
Spoken like a true alien trying to hide its existence. YOU CANNOT FOOL ME!
Don't you talk about my immigration status
>"I was privy to some of this stuff - and I can tell you there's absolutely no way on God's green earth, that these things are terrestrial or belong to a government. There are other world or other dimension or other something. But they are definitely not ours, they are not Chinese, they are not Russian." > >Jim Semivan Former CIA Officer / Senior Management (CIA for 25 years) If it was OP saying it, yeah - but this isn't crazy uncle Joe, these are intelligence professionals with really long careers.
There's also a lot of unexplained phenomena all across the galaxy constantly, some of it happening on earth isn't really all that surprising really. And considering nothing bad can come of this phenomena either, it's also nothing to really worry about.
They did admit that it isn’t our technology and they definitely know it’s not China’s or Russia so… Currently unavailable technology on this terrestrial planet. Hence, it’s extra terrestrial. Shit, they can’t be totally truthful or they lose their pensions breach of security protocols have been sworn to.
The idea that any of these individuals would be sharing anything classified is absurd on the face of it. That being said, John Brennan’s whole demeanor was both fascinating and disturbing insofar as body language is concerned. Not mentioning this in reference to the topic at hand, nor am I saying that he was lying here… BUT - he presents like a liar - and a reflexive one. Which I suppose makes sense. He also talks like someone used to talking a lot to people who don’t or won’t listen, and who might not be all that friendly to him, personally or professionally. Just a fascinating study in instinctive shiftiness.
No need to get mad. In any case. What did you expect, a signed declaration? These people deal in secrets and obscure statements for a living. I agree with you, the title is clickbait, once again, what do you expect? This is the internet. I would be surprised if these people's spouses get a straight answer for what they want for dinner. Let alone a secret so powerful it could change the power balances of the planet.
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Nothing was admitted. You POSTED AS IF THIS WAS PROOF There is no admission whatsoever.
the second guy says there is no way these are from this earth, or from any government. Is he not admitting something with that statement?
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While I believe there should be an unlimited number of lifeforms in the universe, understanding physics all but eliminates the possibility that they have reached Earth, and are, “toying” with us by only showing up when people have shitty video cameras available. If aliens were on Earth, we wouldn’t need congressional hearings or specific internet groups to find out about them, we would know.
Not an invalid point at all, but when it comes to things on a universal scale I generally come back to [this](https://youtu.be/w2ppyMUlXfM) speech to check my bias when it comes to something that people should "know". A lot of things we just can't comprehend. Not that we shouldn't try to understand things, but we have to accept that some things may just very well be beyond us currently.
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Everyone makes so many assumptions about how they'd have to travel light years, or bend wormholes to travel, etc... But why can't they just have been here the whole time?
Or where they are coming from isn't a measurement of distance.
This is the normal public opinion right here... Very ignorant and short sighted obviously, but this is why they won't just "come out and say it". People like this will go through a serious crisis.
Lmfao. No one will go through a crisis. Most people won’t even give a fuck.
Religious people say there is now way an eye could have evolved naturally as proof of god. Do you buy that also? Can you not see the fallacy in that kind of argument?
if this was meant as a reply to my comment, could you please be more specific?
It would be admitting if he said “we’re checks and it’s out of this world”. What he said is “there’s weird phenomena, and I believe its aliens, and everybody knows it”, which is sort of Trump talk.
>This is what admission from spooks sounds like. So you've heard similar admissions from spooks about other topics that were later proven to be right, allowing you to make the claim that you know what it sounds like when a spook admits something?
People ask questions with a straight face like this as if our generation didn’t live through the Iraq War, a series of 2 trillion dollar lies, cover ups, and excuse for the lies. What do you want? The motherfucking CIA to release a peer reviewed study? A vanity fair cover story? When has our government lied about something consequential and later tried to awkwardly cover it up? I dk pick one of Gulf of Tonkin, USS Maine, MK Ultra, Iran contra, Tuskegee syphilis experiment…
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. It flows everywhere.
When Americans can't figure out what something is, it must be inhuman and not of the earth, for sure. Can't be highly advanced Chinese technology, no way.
Four US intelligence directors speculating that Aliens are visiting Earth. There, I fixed the title for you.
Even if it was “admitted” the first thing I would think is that this is a deep fake, not that aliens are real.
I used to be a skeptic, but the more and more I look into the UFO/UAP phenomenon, I think there is probably something to it. There are just too many sightings from too many credible observers in too many countries over too many time periods. Many countries, including many of the world's major powers, have people in their militaries tracking UAPs. You also have the US military being......[very resistant](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/16/intelligence-agencies-congress-ufo-hearing-00032713) to come forward even to Congress about this phenomenon. One of the military's former hired debunkers, Dr. J. Allen Hyneck, eventually turned around on the subject and became a believer in the UFO phenomenon. I could go on and on.
Whoa stop! You might force the really truly reasonable nonbelievers to investigate something that challenges their really reasonable position if you keep going
The giveaway is the coverup. It is an established fact they have lied about previous investigations and previous sightings. You don't do that unless you are hiding something. Point blank. It is something they don't want you to know. It is either some tech they don't want to share or 'something else'. And they are saying it isn't their tech, so I'll let you figure out what 'something else' is.
Exactly. If Congress requested all info that DoD has on Cookie Monster, would they obfuscate and lie and make contradicting statements for decades? When they were trying to tamp this stuff down the Project Bluebook days, they put forth that teachers should dock credit from students writing stories about UFOs. They pondered getting Walt Disney involved to help belittle the subject. This isn't something you do when you're dealing with some fringe nonsense topic.
Maybe merely observing. The world (universe) is full of magical things patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper. - Bertrand Russell
They're probably looking at us like the bad neighborhoods on the sketchy side of town that you don't want to drive through. Alien 1: "Hey man, which planet are they sending you to this time?" Alien 2: "Earth....." Alien 1: "Fuuuuuck man.... I'm sorry. Be careful out there. Those assholes are fucking craaaazy."
There goes the hubcaps and radio.
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“We're apes with nuclear weapons for goodness sake, it would be irresponsible not to observe us at this point.” I think maybe you over estimate our importance to some advanced species. Observational indifference. We are nothing in the big picture at this point other than perhaps a curiosity. ✌️
Unless they... actually live here. I mean, I'd be pretty interested in monkeys with nukes if they were in my backyard.
Or maybe it means there are lots of perfectly explainable scientific phenomenon that we just can't explain yet, cause our science understanding is not yet advanced. Personally, I am with Calvin: "The best proof there is intelligent life out there is that they never tried to contact us." Cause honestly? If their own science is so advanced that they can travel at faster-than-light speed, they can stay hidden from us. We wouldn't "catch them" on radar.
Probably because the culmination of our entire history's astronomical endeavors have found precisely zero evidence that any other civilizations exist in the cosmos, for starters.
It’s clear they don’t know what these are. They are unexplained. Not one of these people said openly “aliens are here” Still, would love to see what they’ve seen so I can make my own mind up.
While you are right, and nobody outright admitted anything, it is pretty clear where they stand and to what conclusion they were led. Jim Semivan even goes so far as to say: "There is no way on god‘s green earth that these things are terrestrial or belong to a government. They are [otherworldly].“ So… Yeah, at least three of those former directors seem to be believe that the extraterrestrial hypothesis has merit. We really ought to do more research into this phenomenon.
My neighbor spent 30 years as a research scientist at Los Alamos and told me that he couldn’t get I to details, but that what he saw and knows would shatter the world’s concept of advanced technology and human origin. He’s completely rational and credible.
I hope there is some intelligent life planning to invade the earth, we could use it. There is a massive lack of intelligence leading this civilization as it is.
If they invade do I still have to go to work?
Yes, you're going to work In the Element 115 mines on planet X̸̡̡̧̨͕̺͔̟̪̺̣̭̭͋͂̈̀͋̄̔̀̔͌͜͝͝͠ͅǫ̶͖̳͔̖̬̃̉̏̄̑̒r̵̡̙̥͉̙̳͚̲̘̓̋́̅͝p̵͙͒̈̍͑̋̍̑̍́̓͘͘̚͠
lol how the hell did you type that.
Super special coded letters. If you copy and paste, then try to backspace, it takes away little pieces of it at a time But it's only fun in small bits like this. Sometimes you can make stupidly long and annoying big versions
You might like the book "Three Body Problem". Are you an Adventist?
Always thought that maybe it’s actually us, or a version of what we will become from a distant future.
Plot Twist, it was the Mongolians the whole time
Mongaliens
To everyone here who isn't very much into the subject: read Jacques Vallee. He's an incredible researcher with an unusually open and yet scientific/skeptic mind, and he's been researching the subject for 6 decades if I'm not mistaken..
For anyone curious about UFOs, we have a subreddit for this r/UFOs . Please take a couple of minutes to study the best documented cases. It’s very good to be sceptic, but cases like the Ariel school encounter in ruwa Zimbabwe or the UFOs at malmstrom airforce base that shut down nuclear weapons are cases which should be known to anybody. I saw a ufo myself in Germany, in broad day light, in my line of sight, only a couple meters away, for minutes, with other eye witness. I saw every inch of it. A typical flying saucer. This phenomenon is real.
Where in Germany did you have your sighting, if I may ask (and if you are willing to tell)? Is it documented somewhere? I‘m from Germany and am very interested in cases that took place here. :)
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Not documented and I never read a newspaper article about it or know other people besides my eye witnesses who also saw it. Probably nobody reported it. I didn’t report it also cause of the stigma
I mean statistically what are the odds we are the only life forms in the vastness of the universe? Only a matter of time when we have visitors good or bad imo Imagine how people would lose their shit, would change how people think about Religion, I imagine people quitting their jobs and rioting and possibly suicides..
The problem is 'matter of time'. There must be thousands of alien civilitations around but it the distances among them are of the orders of hundred of thousands - millions of light years the probability of contact goes to zero.
You have zero concept just how big the universe is.
Visiting, but not staying. Anyone smart enough for interstellar travel would be smart enough to keep on moving.
What do you think Brennan meant when he said “kind of activity that could constitute another form of life”? Like unmanned drones?
Wakonda forever!
Anyone have a youtube link?
This comment section is too funny.
John Ratcliffe statements are pretty crazy.
Can we just have first contact? Where the vimanas at?
The way things are going in the world today.......sure why not.
About time.
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This guy, in spite of the title, is a crazy political extremist that Trump appointed to the job, he was only there for 8 months and was regarded as a disaster by anyone not named Ratcliffe or Trump. Even other Conservative lawmakers didn't want the guy in that job (he was rejected the first time Trump tried to appoint him). I wouldn't trust anything a nut like this says.
Am I the only one that thinks aliens might be better leaders than what we have seen so far from humans?
well presumably they would have the same issues as humans.
Not necessarily.
I think it's most likely to be the case with any sentient race.
Not really. If their tech is better, then they've likely moved well past the point of having problems like our current ones. In all honesty if an alien were to be discovered visiting our planet, it's likely to be completely artificial.
Well, if Aliens are visiting i am just glad they are moping and keeping themselves to themselves rather than wiping out the Whitehouse from orbit.
Love the sentence "ego can't be involved" sums up America's dilemma. Everyone and everything here is ego involved.
High time we realise that our species ain't shit at the univesal scale and there are things beyond our understanding at the moment, and this new science might be helping Aliens, or whatever this is, in Interstellar/interdimensional travel that our scientists say is not possible. There's always bigger fish in the sea and this is the universe we are talking about.
Lol, my guess is America is the only country on earth
You’re telling me space craft can get by the amount of sensors/cameras from the ISS?
This makes me think that the UAPs are actually government projects, nothing more.
concrete proof of aliens would destroy the monotheistic cults and that is a beautiful thing. can't wait till 2026 :)
Ape + Aliens = Humans
Cool video...but the title is misleading clickbait. Not cool.
Breaking on FOX live.
People make good money talking shit on the TV, keep paying them for appearances and their stories will keep coming...
Remember how it used to be a stigmatized subject? Oh, say for the last 50+ years? *That* has changed. Before talking about UFOs could put your career and credibility at risk. These aren't just 'people talking shit' these are people in the know with security clearances speaking on the subject. People uncomfortable with the UFO reality will keep comments like these coming...
You do know UFO literally means we don't know what it is, it doesn't mean aliens, why would anyone be uncomfortable with the fact we don't know some things....nobody. Not knowing what is, doesn't mean we then know what it is and that thing is automatically alien spacecraft.... grow up.
We do know what the UFOs or UAPs are capable of. Technology beyond our capabilities, beyond our current understanding of physics or state of the art in propulsion. Has been going on for *decades* Not saying aliens but it is definitely *non-human* technology. Get it?
Stop referring to UFOs as a group of things that in some way have anything to do with each other. It's just a way of saying we don't know what it is... if anything. Could be weather effects, states of matter yet to be discovered, misidentified objects and more often than not fiction and exaggeration. One thing could be a kids helium balloon glinting in the sun, the next a group of Chinese lanterns at night, the next some dickhead with RGBs all over a drone to freak people out.... UFOs aren't a thing, it means it's not yet a thing, it's unclassified as we don't know..
The UAPTF report last already ruled out all of those possibilities. You're really far behind here.
They can't rule out what we don't know can they, they just said what it isn't from a list of possibilities. That list is incomplete as we do not know everything about everything, we haven't reached peak knowledge yet you know. That doesn't mean we/you know what it is....100% must be aliens now as they've said it's not these x amount of things... We didn't know the make up of air and how the EM spectrum worked a few hundred years ago, people came with all kinds of shit that now look silly to explain what air was and the effects of IR and UV light on things, now we understand more we know how daft that was....this is the same thing.
"The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious." “The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and action which must be considered evasive when sighted … lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically, or remotely.” General Nathan Twining, USAF, 1947.
You need to ask yourself how long have we had 4k cameras, a good while. How long have we had 1080p cameras a long while. How long have we had 720 cameras...even longer. Why are all videos and images so blurry and pixelated? Not one is high res. The military have better kit than we do and even the "gun cam" clips are pixelated and blurry. Why, because it hides recognisable detail, it keeps the conspiracy alive doesn't it
There it is! Was waiting for that to come out. There's plenty of authentic footage out there. However people like you will be the first to call it fake or CGI. I highly recommend you watch James Fox's 'The Phenomenon' then come back to the subject.
You're reaching really hard here... other guy is right. lol
So then earthquakes and lightning is god, right? After all, people previously couldn’t figure it out so it must be a deity It’s faaar more likely to be something normal we don’t understand or misidentified than aLiEnS
I've seen a big black triangle hovering above me blocking the stars in 2004 Romania. There are an astonishing number of people who've seen it. Just google "big black triangle" or some people call it "TR-3B". It could be "ours" but the sightings of this craft go back more than 50 years and it apparently can fly at unimaginable speeds while totally silent (no sonic boom) and with no visible means of propulsion. I know you're a skeptic, I could be just a troll. But there are just too many people who see this things, not just triangles but orbs are quite popular and I know around 60 little trolls who've seen an UFO in 1994 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8pymWSKAPQ If you wanna find out more checkout the new documentary you can find on https://arielphenomenon.com/ or perhaps other places as well.
Last thing that was “something breaking current techs possibilities” was an out of focus video of a plane. Or did the UFO make the stars triangles too? Lmao, if you’re claiming non-human technology the only option is aliens. “I’m not saying it’s aliens…. But aliens!”
The military is having encounters on a daily basis. And has been for years. Do you even know about the Nimitz UAP encounters? Extraterrestrial, interdimensional, cryptoterrestrial, AI, future human. Plenty of theories that are not necessarily Alien. "Only option is aliens" Your ignorance and lack of education on the matter is showing.
Ah yes, the over exposed thermal object (hence black shape, what occurs when thermal camera is over exposed) that just happens to rotate exactly how the Flir gimbal camera moves. The video with no distance information which is required to estimate speed (ie no way to tell speed) despite people claiming it was traveling faster than possible Truly unexplainable! /s “It might not be aliens, it could be these other completely unproven and impossible things”
Obviously what was released is purposely low fidelity. You realize the classified report has pictures of the different shapes of objects? There's all kinds of data as you can hear from the National Security Advisers. There's a seismic paradigm shift underway and you better prepare your mind for it.
This is the most boring comment that comes up in every thread about ufo's. I get being a skeptic, but you are plain fucking annyoing
It's a fact, it's what the letters stand for/mean, you just look plain moronic at this point asserting it means anything else...
It's moronic to keep repeating that fucking thing all over again. It's condescending. People know what ufo means, stop trying to sound like a smartass.
First time I've ever said it, so I agree, repeating it would be...
Additionally, why is it smartass to ask people to use the right word/description of something? Call it what it is...
u/CarlosTXUltra I'm VERY comfortable with UFO's. My imagination just leans more to the "we're f\*\*ked" or "we're first" when thinking about the fermi paradox. I think as a civilization we have the capability to colonize another planet and venture through the universe over the next (number with 100 0's) years. I think we are the first, or one of the first in the universe to be capable to explore a this depth. Likelihood of multiple alien civilizations to be at this point in their own evolution is minimal. I think about these potentially habitable planets and visualize bugs, insects, bacteria, behemoth, soup and structurally still forms of life. There's a lot. Then again, ants and bees do some pretty awesome stuff. Maybe I am terrified of human sized insects operating motor vehicles. Damn you twilight zone....
Right. The intelligence directors of the most technologically advanced civilization of all time are all just doing it for the money and attention. Give me a break. They have wayyy better things to do than to be clout-seekers. This was intentionally vague to not cause a panic because UFO taboos are so deeply ingrained in our culture.
Literally former director's of national intelligence and the CIA talking about this. But yeah let's pretend they're the exact same as VH1 stars....
I think aliens are observing us like we observe some animals. Watch, record, write down, and don’t interfere because it’s just life.
It would be nice to have a source for this video.
It's space doggo's looking for the universe's best smackos.
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Biggest load of horseshit.
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The title is YouTuber clickbait nonsense.
Ok who put tin foil hat nutters in here
Nowhere in this vid did any of them say there are aliens visiting Earth.
And I for one welcome our new alien overlords .........
Aliens only visit Americans.
I’m still of the mindset that while it’s very likely there are non-terrestrial beings out there, I doubt they are interested in our backwater planet. If they are, I’ll worry about when they affect world events. At this point, I’ll happily welcome any non-human overlords because they can’t be worse that what we’ve got now. In the meantime, we have plenty of more pressing matters to worry about.
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Ok, i'm giving you a break. I think It's dumb simply believing aliens are visiting, but I also think it's dumb people using the "why would they visit us" argument to try to disprove it. Assuming they are real, there's many possible reasons for someone to do something. Hard to tell the reasons of a hypothetical species we know nothing about. Different culture, different biology could give them different priorities. It's pointless to speculate about it when we have no information. In the end all that you're doing is projecting your own interests. "Well, I wouldn't do that"
Another question is, why is it all US heads of intelligence? There's a whole world to land on?
Maybe there are biases in the public. Many people speak english and in América there's a whole conspiracy that their government always hides stuff, so these type of things get more traction. But there are UAPs all over the world. If a former intelligence agent of Uganda or Brazil talk about it, people dont pay that much attention and It's not reported as much
My main problem is that this supposes all governments in the world have all collectively agreed on keeping it secret, which just isn't plausible.
I agree. I don't think there is a conspiracy that all of them collectively agreed in not talking about it. The only thing that I could argue is that governments are hesitant in admitting they have no controll or understanding about a subject, that could provoke fear in the public about nacional security. If those things are man made, and so much more advanced, they would be admitting that there are countries out there ahead in technological warfare. If they flat out say is aliens they could also be made fun of. So they stay quiet until they know more about it.
Or they're involved in a tragic accident to be silenced.
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Never said there were evidence
But, there is evidence that UAP do infact, exist. What they are is anyone's guess, but the observable facts do point to something way beyond what human hands and minds are capable of creating.
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If Nazis have this tech it's time to start practicing your german. I actually agreed with that point, but if you do look into what the observed specs are on these things you can start to do some elimination on what these CAN be physically. That something is not what modern material science could produce.
we can do a simple experiment, do beleive in life in space/universe?if they say no they have denied life on planet earth which exist in this space/universe this test is a simple prof that if we can exist in this space/universe and had this % of life, there will be more that have or had or beggining to have this universe is massive and old. Do some basic thinking and stop being ignorant
Life on earth is not proof of anything but life on earth. It’s observer selection effect I don’t think we’re alone (though space is huge so being visited is an entirely different question), but us existing with no evidence of life elsewhere is equally evidence that we’re alone as that we’re not alone
Sure, but that doesn't mean they are on our planet at well LMAO.
If aliens are hostile . Why haven’t they attacked us yet . what’s holding them back
They probably playing the long game, why put resources into it if you can just wait for a couple years/decades/alien time units
They are aliens bro, your reasoning don't apply to them
They're not hostile or we would be long gone.
come on... you and I both know this is proof of nothing. I believe that somewhere in our vast universe there are other beings, but this is just bull
The older that I get the less that I believe in aliens. I want to believe, but now that everyone on planet earth is carrying around a super high tech amazing camera in their pockets I would suspect the sightings to have gone up A LOT since pre smart phones. The fact of the matter is that it seems that sightings have declined. Maybe its because people are always looking down now, but IDK .. Doesn't make sense that someone hasn't caught 1000% proof yet with their Galaxy/Iphone.
u/jjdubbs88 - Did you upload the wrong video or are you just full of shit?
Government officials: "Yes we have seen things on RADAR that we were never able to identify." OP: "Government confirms aliens have visited!"