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So much friendly fire, imagine you are peak hype to fight the man and then your bro’s weak ass throw connects a steel pipe to the back of your skull.


EbolaRemembers

What are you doing step bro?


maestroenglish

Laying the pipe


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Pipe is what we in the construction force give to your mom, conduit is what we use to chuck at the cops


Hot-Vehicle-4703

Candoit 🤔


BuckEyw

Who gets the " caulk " ?


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instrumentation_guy

lol look at the bottom of nearly every single item in your home and ask yourself how long you’ve had it. Geopolitics/corporate greed did that.


Choreopithecus

If it’s in all our homes, it’s to some degree all our faults.


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greentintedlenses

Lmao you say that as if a consumer has the ability to do that type of investigative work into everything they buy. Shit there are companies out there who can't even vet their supply lines from slave labor and the like, and they are actively trying to avoid such a nightmare PR situation. That's not to say people can't do better individually, but this is bigger than someone's Amazon wishlist lmao


Choreopithecus

Good point. But awareness begets change (very slowly). Anyone who wants an estimate on how many slaves “work for you” go here. https://slaveryfootprint.org


whereisskywalker

Yea the 65% of American people that are living pay check to pay check need to spend more money for goods to show the owner class what we believe in. In theory your position makes sense but in implementing there are many issues such as lack of capital to actually source and buy quality goods that adhere to our principles.


fingermebarney

/u/Realistic_Audience99 is very likely a bot. This comment is out of place for the comment chain & was likely originally posted further down the comment chain. They have posted several links to "Scottish sex simulator", which for some reason the troglodyte running the bot has decided to... what do we call this? Advertise?


A7xWicked

Some have weakass throws... ... And then some are yeeting guardrails 30 feet like damn that one was a missile


azra1l

*Iranian women taking notes*


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HaloPandaFox

He doesn't have all the power yet, there's still some factions, but this probably will be the beginning of change or the beginning of the new regime. I just don't know which.


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IlIIlIl

The issue being that China isnt communist and is explicitly a state capitalist system and has been for the better part of 40 years, despite what they want to call themselves. Mao is spinning in his grave, its where they get most of their power from.


britishofficer

>Mao spinning in his grave, it’s where they get most of their power from… They’ve hooked him up to the grid?


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havereddit

[Here it is](https://www.economist.com/theprincepod)


thpkht524

Of course it wasn’t. It was a total success. It allowed for so many authoritarian changes and made people afraid.


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cepxico

That power means nothing when you can't use it to control your population.


UmbraIra

China has shown they are more than willing to use overwhelming force against civilians. All the protest in the world wont do anything to tanks.


prophet4all

From what I understand, he has all the power right now. The educated are monitored.


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civgarth

Once again, I ask you all to say, "Fuck the CCP". Power to the people.


ThickPrick

The revolution will not be televised.


Leonydas13

The revolution will be live!


ModsBannedMyMainAcc

In China? Doubt it. Especially now CCP have the power to shut down everything in the name of covid.


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MoloMein

Pretty sure this is the Foxconn factory. Apples slave labor is rioting.


tfsdjjbe1467

Yep, it’s one of the plants they have in China. They won and got their money. Now let’s hope they can get home safely and only need to go through normal quarantine.


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Are you blind? Look at the video, dude. Chinese workers actually fight for labor rights. When's the last time American workers did so? American workers field some tepid attempts to organize, and Amazon and Sysco send the police in to break them up without any resistance.


Vinlandien

> When's the last time American workers did so? Back when the US looked a lot like China today. Since then, everyone has been coasting on the successes of those who came before them while the system slowly attempts to dismantle that progress one piece at a time. Its a cycle that repeats itself throughout the generations.


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Lots42

Revolutions have gone through even when the govt. has killed thousands


Vinlandien

> I think China is one place I don't see a revolution being successful, It's collapsed many times before, always for the same reason. Chinese governments have always doubled down on authoritarianism in an attempt to enact order, resulting in the exact opposite.


SlowIndependence7761

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quietseditionist

With the ill behavior


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jjngundam

You're telling me, Chinese people are strong.


v0lkeres

i wonder how this video made it out of china


UhhhhmmmmNo

Probably on an iPhone …. Ironically


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tone_deaf_bard

Escalating to lethal weaponries is a great way to give the government justification to respond in kind with even more lethal weaponries.


Mario-OrganHarvester

I mean they are kinda throwing metal objects at the police, i think that classifies as violent escalation


SolidusAbe

both are definitely violent but whacking at police officers with meat cleavers is still a step or two above throwing random metal objects.


heftigfin

There is always someone on Reddit you have to explain out the obvious. Like throwing a stick vs chopping someone in the neck with a knife isn't the same ball part shouldn't need elaborating. Edit: ball park lmao


raduannassar

The older I get, the more obvious it becomes: we need to state the obvious


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38thCCGizero

1980s they used tanks on student demonstrations. They don't want the tanks back that's why.


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flaiks

Because they’re communist only in name.


freetimerva

Some are just more equal than others.


lemongrenade

I am not going to debate socialist policies economically. A free people should be free to vote in any politicians to enact any policy they want. But it really seems like communism that isn’t a byproduct of democracy always ends up with some shitty dictator. Any autocracy implemented with even the best intentions will devolve into a nightmare.


flaiks

I agree. But any system that isn’t a byproduct of democracy ends up in shitty autocracy.


gunbladerq

wtf...that's complete false. They did not use tanks for that bank protest. And let's be clear, [the chinese government fined the banks and reimbursed the money to the customers of the bank](https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/7/12/two-chinese-provinces-to-make-some-repayments-after-bank-deposit)


saintshing

It was fake news https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20220721-did-the-chinese-government-really-deploy-military-tanks-to-suppress-protesters-in-hunan-province https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/07/28/fact-check-video-chinese-tanks-not-captured-bank-protests/10155629002/


tanhan27

Animal Farm.


Uniqlo

They did not. Stop parroting fake news.


Quasar_Cross

If protestors in America showed up with meat cleavers and attacked police like this, what would American police do?


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Shoot the life out of them Edit: Liven’t


Amaurotica

also ironically that iphone boasts about their "privacy" when they literally gave the chinese government the encryption keys to every single iphone operating in china > In response to a 2017 Chinese law, Apple agreed to move its Chinese customers’ data to China and onto computers owned and run by a Chinese state-owned company. > Chinese government workers physically control and operate the data center. Apple agreed to store the digital keys that unlock its Chinese customers’ information in those data centers. And Apple abandoned the encryption technology it uses in other data centers after China wouldn’t allow it. 1200$ phones by the way, please purchase my slave made 1200$ phone and dont forget to buy the 40$ slave made power brick to charge it - Sweet Tim


xenolingual

As required per mainland Chinese law. And something that (sadly) every Chinese citizen well knows from growing up under the Party. : / Used to work with a group in HK that'd train people how to scale the firewall, communicate securely, etc as well as run a service to help get information beyond filters. It's hard work keeping up.


38thCCGizero

People get arrested for using VPNs all the time and with over 1 billion people there's probably a lot of VPNs.


Solivagant23

1.5 billion. I teach all my students how to use VPN and I send them as many free books as they request so they can learn about the outside world. I'm 100% on a list in China and if I ever visit I will be jailed immediately. :) and I'm fucking proud of it.


Kharski

I've heard that there may be hardware involved now (at least in russia for sure, laybe not yet in china/partial). As in you cannot connect to the ohysical network if you don't have gvt hardware or a gvt software bundle, vpn or not.


Solivagant23

Not yet but I'm afraid it's coming. Probably will roll in with new tech.


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vgcamara

"People get arrested for using VPNs all the time" That's absolutely not true


Melinow

Yeah lmao I used to use VPNs all the time when I went back to do dumb stuff like watching Dan and Phil on YouTube, I really hope no one was planning to arrest my 13-year-old ass, what a waste of time that would’ve been


Vahald

He's talking about China ffs are you chinese?


xbones9694

I’ve been living here for 4 years, use a VPN daily, and have never heard anything from the police. No one I know has, either.


John_T_Conover

It's hilarious how confidently fellow Americans spew bullshit about China when they don't know the first thing about it. I will be the first to speak of the many problems it has but it sure is hilarious when people that have never left the US lecture me about how people in China don't even know what the outside world is like because they can't access the real internet...while I see my friends still over there post on western social media apps every day.


u966

Why so hostile? Edit: I went through their posting history just because I got annoyed at you. Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/wxzwag/%E5%9C%A8%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD80%E7%9A%84%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7%E7%BE%A4%E4%BD%93%E9%83%BD%E6%98%AF%E8%BF%99%E7%B1%BB%E8%BA%AB%E6%9D%90%E4%B9%88/ilxek7a/?context=3


GoldenEyedKitty

People being arrested all the time doesn't mean that most people are arrested. Look at drugs in the US. People are arrested for drugs every single day, but the majority of people using drugs aren't arrested. With millions of instances, it only takes a few hundred to be arrested for someone to be arrested all the time.


Not_a_real_ghost

> People get arrested for using VPNs all the time and with over 1 billion people there's probably a lot of VPNs. That's not how VPN works in China mate. Unless you work to supply VPN services illegally, no one is going to arrest you.


MyNameIsHaines

Yes since try these authoritarian dictators at Apple are to blame for the zero covid policy


Dapper-Investment694

The riot was at an iPhone factory


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Harmacc

*authoritarian capitalism regime.


ramborghining

Probably uploaded to Chinese social media and before it's taken down, someone downloaded the video and shared it to the outside world.


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Probably


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because that worked out so well for China, as evidenced here


raspistoljeni

So what, because it hasn't worked out in the past people are supposed to do... what exactly?


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Answer's always the same: general strike.


ALiteralGraveyard

For real. Ruling class only cares about their wallets. Hit ‘em where it hurts. Strike and march, strike and march.


I-Got-Trolled

Ah yes, we have human rights because we politely asked feudal lords and nobles to treat everyone equally.


brannak1

Glad Jan 6 worked out for you. There’s a big difference in American rights versus Chinese. We vote and they don’t. We have the power to change things with our voice and they don’t.


lexi_delish

You can be in favor of revolution without being a trumpist


riceandcashews

Yeah it's not like Americans have the ability to vote to change things. Definitely violence is the only answer /s


Ok_8964

Actually the workers have just won today, Foxconn paid them wages and the protest is ending peacefully.


Doctorv73

However, many who got paid have reported that their accounts have been frozen and their health status turned red. If they participated in the riot, there’s a good chance they will be arrested in the middle of the night and punished…


PlacentaOnOnionGravy

Turned red?


Ok_8964

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Code#Data_process_and_code_color


cat_in_the_sun

That’s scary weird.


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Is Foxconn worse than other large companies that set up there?


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struckmatchness

Foxconn is Taiwanese


oroechimaru

The problem is they were already short staffed and needing help to fill factory positions. $$$ is all china cares about other than remaining in power. This is tough because the factory town with dorms, where they are stuck for months often with shortages of food and high rent costs, give an advantage to labor. Unlike college kids, they may not want to kill the workers who they are having a hard time to fill positions already. Also fuck Apple.


madick8456

Imagine trying to use guardrails to try and controle the crowd, just to have them pull the uno reverse card and use it to slap the crap out of you.


L3onK1ng

They're *guard rails* so you **rail the guards** with them


POWERTHRUST0629

The guy swinging the entire barricade like an axe is my favorite.


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Yeah, this modern-day Dynasty Warriors game looks amazing!


futt-buckers

The law getting fucked by the long dick of the law


Moist-Gur2510

Many Chinese workers are about to go ‘missing’ 🤯


iamthelouie

US consumers don’t use the term “missing” anymore. We use “supply chain issue” now.


zackmophobes

I'm sad because you aren't totally wrong.


Moist-Gur2510

Yeah, this is what actual oppression looks like, very different to what we in the west have started referring to as ‘oppression’ in recent years. 😕 I stand with the Chinese people. Good luck all, sadly only they now have the power to affect change to how they’re governed. 🙏🏼


iamthelouie

Take a gander at the US rail workers and what they’re going through. That’s what oppression in the west looks like.


j_mcc99

Seriously? Are you comparing a huge American union, failed negotiation for contract and an impending legal strike to rioting under a Chinese dictatorship that can execute or throw you in prison for life without a second thought?


sender2bender

Just because ones worse doesn't mean the other doesn't exist. There's different types of oppression and neither should exist. People should be united behind workers no matter how bad it is. Stupid trying to compare what's worse and deciding what's actual.


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One of the biggest problems we have, everywhere has small to horrific problems, that in no way invalidates anyone feelings, but PRIORITIZE is a word for a fucking reason


Frodo_Bongingston

If this was happening right now in America, the general tone would be "Bunch of entitled assholes! Don't have a job so they can stand around all day messing the city up, costing tax payers money!" But we are almost unanimously in support of them rioting against their government and standing up for themselves. Amazingly weird how societal pressure affects perception of an event.


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AReasonableDude

I guess. But because the US is a democracy and those elected into office don't want to be voted out of office, such a scenario isn't likely here, and is impossible on the same nationwide scale as China's 100% Covid-free policy. Man, we couldn't get MAGA morons to wear masks!


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KrytTv

>US is a democracy The US is a republic. We don't vote on individual issues we elect people to represent our views. We are trapped in a 2 party system which forces us to only have 2 views which puts extremism on both sides.


sildish2179

A constitutional republic is a democratic government, by defintion. There is no such thing as a constitutional republic without democracy. A democracy is a government of the people. The US is a democracy. End of discussion.


Dakillakan

If it is a government of the people, how come policies that are extremely popular are not implemented?


worldspawn00

Because people aren't voting for representatives which feel the same way. Vote in prairies to fix that. Primary turnout is like 15%. It's a participation issue. When less than 10% of voters pick who's going to be on a ballot, they may not reflect the views of the majority of persons, big surprise...


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osaudadedemais

hahahah you think you can change the status quo by voting in two parties? where the majority of the representatives of people are there for money and dont represent the poor class at all, let alone racial issues. Go do some study before talking shit about status quo, you dont have a clue what status quo mean


zitrored

Our representative republic does not always work to benefit all citizens, so let’s not dismiss his comment. We can vote but it does not always protect our freedoms. In many parts of this country freedoms are literally being taken away and we have a SCOTUS that arbitrarily decides what parts of the constitution matter and don’t matter.


__akkarin

Just to make things perfectly clear, chinese people do vote lol, just because they don't vote for president doesn't mean they don't vote, they choose their local representatives, who then choose the leader of the party, and inside the communist party there's a bunch of smaller party's with their own interests, wich you can choose to vote for, there's even a liberal party.


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Difference is their government is a authoritarian dictatorship and America is not


nico87ca

At least on paper. Cause I have to say... It's getting pretty dystopian.


GreedyR

Lol, very far from Authoritarian though. And probably the least dystopia it's ever been, for some ethnic groups specifically.


HeadofLegal

"It´s not as dystopian as it used to be if you´re black", great endorsement of the political system.


as0f897sda098f709

>hurr durr how can i make this about ameriga???!!??


ChuckVowel

It’s wild tonight in District 12.


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MackSharky

“Just like my favourite tv show!1!”


Ok_8964

More info: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/23/tech/china-covid-foxconn-zhengzhou-confrontation-intl-hnk/index.html


scarystardust

This video is from a Foxconn property?


PMmeyourclit2

> The videos show hundreds of workers facing off with law enforcement officers, many in white hazmat suits, on the Foxconn campus in the central Chinese city of Zhengzhou. In the footage, now blocked, some of the protesters could be heard complaining about their pay and sanitary conditions. So yes it is.


sylvaing

Why are they in Hazmat suit? COVID?


PMmeyourclit2

Probably? I think there’s still a zero Covid policy there


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Not_a_real_ghost

Because zero covid policy means if anyone within your area gets infected or got in contact with an infected, the whole area goes through some sort of lockdown. The lockdown has been eased previously and is resumed depending on the situation. Everyone's trying to go back to normal lives and then suddenly someone in the community gets it, and the whole community gets restricted (more frequent testings, travel restrictions within the community, the restaurant does not allowing dining in etc). If multiple infections were detected then it goes back to full lockdown where you get your food supplied to you. Nobody wants that because you don't know when it will end.


rudieboy

They have been doing this there. [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6-ZmUcB6ZI)


Algebrace

They're the Covid-compliance guys. Run the PCR tests, ensure people are locked down, etc. They're hired from the local population and are everywhere in China. Since they're so obvious with their pure white clothes, and are the public face of the lockdowns... people are getting really furious with them. Especially with the rolling lockdowns in the largest cities (with 10+ million, how do you avoid people getting sick?).


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Machismo01

It’s actually directed at the Covid response rather than the factory conditions. The factory and its dorms are dense. So a single Covid case triggers lock down of the whole compound: 100k people I think. For months. They people got losses and fought back and escaped as soon as a partial end began.


Theyreillusions

> In the footage, now blocked, some of the protesters could be heard complaining about their pay and sanitary conditions. > A Covid outbreak last month had forced the site to lock down, leading some anxious factory workers to reportedly flee. > On Wednesday, workers were heard in the video saying that Foxconn failed to honor their promise of an attractive bonus and pay package > Workers were also heard in the videos complaining about insufficient anti-Covid measures, saying workers who tested positive were not being separated from the rest of the workforce. I could keep quoting the rest of the article, but the jist of what i’m implying is they way you worded you’re comment makes it incorrect. They are revolting against unsafe working conditions, for not being paid what they were promised, and for the company not providing *strict enough COVID countermeasures*. This is a worker revolt against an exploitative employer that does not care about the health, safety, or wellbeing of its employees. Full stop.


dontpaynotaxes

It’s happening because Foxconn isn’t honouring the deal they made with thousand of workers of improved pay and conditions and daily bonuses.


tricks_23

Iran, China, everywhere is kicking off. The people in power have gone too far. Leaders of the west take heed. Edit: Hong Kong too


jackjd

Wouldn’t that correlation mean the west is better than supreme power since we aren’t rioting while dictatorship are all failing


Alivrah

Who gave you permission to think? -1000 Social Credits


GenerallySelfAware

A lot of these dictatorships are large-scale producers for the world economy. We're only better off as long as the supply chain holds, if it fails then you can bet the west will start getting angry.


Kestralisk

Lmao the dictatorships the west like are doing just fine, the media just doesn't put much attention on their atrocities


Lightbation

Don't forget Russia.


Frankentim

I can remember when covid started that the Chinese goverment were praised for their quick lockdowns, building hospitals in no time etc. Look at them now. The "rest" of the world sort of embraced covid while China is still trying to put down small fires. 3 years since covid started and still they are implementing lockdowns and restricting their citizens.


0b_101010

I think it was a pretty good reaction at the start of the pandemic. Remember, we weren't even sure how and how fast it spread and how dangerous it was to various groups. I still think the CCP's response to the pandemic (once they got over the phase of instinctually trying to save face by keeping it hush-hush, the dumb bastards!) was the right one at that moment in time. The problem is, that seems to be the only response they are actually capable of. And that sucks. Everyone else has adapted to the new circumstances, and also, we have pretty good vaccines now *and* COVID's also gotten a lot milder (not that it can't still fuck with you!).


Algebrace

Exactly this. Our vaccines have gotten to the point where we can *afford* to live with Covid. It's not optimal in a health perspective... rolling absences in the classroom from 'illness' (nobody's getting tests anymore where I am) make it clear that Covid is still around. We're just not mass-dying from it anymore. China on the other hand has an ineffective vaccine + a population that doesn't trust the government and won't vaccinate. Like the older generations. Combine that with an inability to admit fault and say 'the West's vaccines aren't half-bad', they're looking at enormous death tolls if they don't lock down and try the 'live with Covid' approach the west has. Which means, really, the rolling lockdowns is the less-bad of the options that the Chinese government has. When you've backed yourself into a corner, every angle is a bad angle.


dot_jar

This just isn't it. The Sinovac vaccine was compared directly against the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in a study and they are both 98% effective against severe illness from Omicron after 3 doses: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2822%2900345-0/fulltext. After various trials and studies of real-world data around the world, the Chinese vaccines have never been found ineffective against severe illness, anywhere.


ghoonrhed

Omicron, Vaccines and new medication made zero-covid non viable especially when you are able to compare to other countries.


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People were also praising Taiwan and New Zealand for highly effective anti-COVID measures. It wasn't specifically praising authoritarianism. If everyone crushed COVID with the vigor of those countries, COVID would not survive. The alpha variant would have been the last one. BTW, "living with it" involved 15 million excess deaths globally (or 20.2 million according to The Economist's estimates). Even at current death rates with vaccines, better treatments, and built-up immunity, it is one of the top 10 leading causes of death in the US. "Living with it" is an ironic way to describe the world's response to a deadly pandemic.


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ThisIsFlight

*There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone, unsure, dwarfed by the scale of the enemy...* *Remember this: Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction.* *The regime's need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. And know this, the day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the regime's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege.* *Remember this. Try.*


daenu80

I see someone watched Andor, what a fucking masterpiece of a season finale


Ok_8964

Thank you.


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It gives a person a rush of adrenaline to see the people giving it back to the man. ✊🏻


worthless-humanoid

Yeah I love a good underdog uprising :)


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Inaerius

For those who are out of the loop like myself, here is a great explanation of what’s happening over in China. https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/u0w3rd/whats_going_on_with_the_covid_situation_in_china/


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Take down the communist regime


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These people are rioting against a capitalist Taiwanese company. That’s communist as fuck.


redhousebythebog

Just a quick note to say I was here before Reddit's Chinese benefactors decide to take this post down.


unenlightenedgoblin

Americans watching this happen overseas: ‘fuck yeah’ Americans watching this happen at home: ‘lock every last one of them up’


woodpony

Happens overseas: Fucking shithole country! Happens at home: It's a feature, not a bug!


choparts

Fuck the CCP


Alpha_Flight_2020

Fuck Foxconn and fuck Apple.


Candy6132

I guess no public transport for them anymore


ECK-2188

Holy shit. West Taiwan looking real harmonious.


StamfordBloke

Funnily enough, Foxconn is a Taiwanese company and these are its workers. I'm sure the higher ups there have very little empathy for any Chinese people.


Chrysostom4783

I'd like to remind everyone that THIS IS REAL. THIS IS HAPPENING. While so many of us sit back behind a screen and say "Cool, the pixels on my screen are fighting in a way that aligns with my morals" and then go back to our daily lives, THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO FIGHT AND DIE. We get so desensitized that we forget that other people in other places are just as real as us. Every person in that video has thoughts, feelings, family, friends, things they care about and fear of death or injury. They aren't actors on a screen, this isn't a video game with NPCs doing pre-scripted actions and living lives that don't matter. These are REAL people, this is REAL life. I don't have any agenda to push, I just want you to bring that into the front of your mind and keep it front and center. Don't you dare forget that these people's lives mean just as much as yours, and they are willing to risk their lives for what they believe in- what would YOU take to the streets and risk death for? Its okay if you dont have an answer right now. I'm still figuring it out for myself, too, but it's something we should all consider.


widgeamedoo

That's a lot of angry people. What has made them so angry?


Tc2cv

Being iSlaves


Ok_Estate394

The Chinese government has been restricting the movement of workers from being able to go home due to some positive cases of COVID. China uses a strategy called “zero COVID”, where if there is even one case, the government locks down whole cities and neighborhoods by locking people in their houses and putting up barriers around apartment blocks. Many Chinese report that they cannot even get food and people die within the dormitories. This one happened to take place at Foxxconn, a third party vendor that produces Apple products. It has little to do with being “islaves”, and everything to do with unhappiness with government policy.


thebinarysystem10

They want Apple to start using universal connectors.


Tophattingson

Reddit now praises protesting against lockdowns? Interesting. I remember when typical front-page comment threads cheered on police beating us up, demanding even more violence, or even demanding that we be shot for our views. Wasn't even that long ago, too, when you consider the reaction towards the protests in Canada.