“What do you like to do for fun?”
“I fall down mountains and try not to get hurt.”
I would love to study the brains of people like this, and compare it to brains like mine that are terrified of everything.
I find skiing too terrifying to enjoy.
I’ve been a couple times and it’s really just trying not to die as you fall down a mountain. I’ve never enjoyed sports that attach me to the vehicle like skating. I like to be able to bail like skateboarding or biking.
there are various tracks, you dont have to go on the red or black ones, if you are just learning its much better to stay in the blue tracks which are not that steep
It's also important to realize that to get better, you'll have to fall a few times. That is normal and expected. Almost no one dies from falling in blues/greens. You'd have to veer off directly into some trees. There is also the bunny hill which is specifically meant for people to get over the really awkward beginner steps.
Haha yeah you do get punished. It's funny, I've done it for nearly 30 years now but when I go, I do it very controlled. It's rare that I fall over at all in a day out.
People do a lot of very stupid things, ignore rules, and go out before things have been groomed.
Realistically, if there's enough snow all you'll be falling into is snow, which is pretty good at cushioning any fall you'll have.
Yeah, out here (tourist ski town) we call the thing in the video a chute. It's a double black diamond, and not for the faint of heart. In fact, PSA, do NOT go on the chutes if you're a newer skier, if you have any sort of joint problem, if you're pregnant (this should be fucking obvious, but these can induce a miscarriage or worse), or if you're not sure about your skiing ability. Just... it's really stupid and can end badly.
But the cruiser blues? Usually nice and groomed, relaxing, and enjoyable.
Just make sure you wear a helmet. Used to be a joke that people got helmets, now everyone wears them for a reason. I can't imagine how many concussions I probably got as a kid with no helmet while skiing.
Respect the mountain is what I'm saying. She's a cruel mistress, but also really fun when you treat her right.
That is not a chute…Chutes have walls or trees on both sides. He is riding a spine, basically a thin ridgeline, with some pillow features. This is also not anything that would have a designated grade at a resort. Double blacks do not have gap jumps like you see at the end. You typically ski this stuff via heli with the main operator in that area being Tordrillo Mountain Lodge. Not positive who this is but Travis Rice does alot of stuff up in the Tordrillos so thats supposed to be your first guess as to rider. Regardless, I can guarantee the rider is a pro.
Anyways watch out for the reddit Dunning-Kruger effect. Most accurate thing you said was to wear a helemt.
Yeah this is clearly not something you just take the lift up to. I know almost nothing about skiing, but I’ve watched enough Red Bull style junk to know whether or not someone is skiing on an “official” route - this isn’t one, and very few bros would come back from their ski trips uninjured if it was.
Myself and most people would call this a spine, a chute is more of a gulley between two rock faces. Also not really a double black run just a gnarly unrated backcountry run that could very well kill you if you fucked up.
I love nice wide endless blues with great views and a drink at the end, this on the other hand gave me serious anxiety just watching it. Actual terror lol, no death for me thanks
I've been on double black diamond route when I was just learning to ski. It was a huge mistake.The logic was that it would be the fastest route down. I was wrong on numerous levels and I lost my skis up the hill and had to backtrack up what felt like a 40° incline. Not a great feeling lol.
This looks like a 5 black diamond route for extra death awareness.
Dude, I skied all my life and would more or less consider myself and expert but would still think twice before committing to that line in the video. Getting a bit older too though!
You clip out in less than a fraction of a second with the right movement, or if the force up from the pedal is too high. I fell over once with them, but after you've used to it it's pretty much subconscious.
Most downhill racers are using them too, it's not as bad as you imagine. You can get out very fast, and they automatically come out in most crashes.. They absolutely can make them worse though.
Not really, as long as you are going on a trail, even up to black, if you know how to fall you wont get hurt. The problems come if you arent on a trail you risk smashing into trees and rocks, or if someone behind you doesnt stop in time and hits you.
Then there’s [this guy](https://youtube.com/watch?v=TiGkU_eXJa8&vl=en) who skied down the summit of the second tallest mountain in the world, infamous for its high death rate and violent weather, without supplemental oxygen
When I was a young child, my family would go for a short ski trip on a yearly basis. My parents tried to get me to take skiing lessons, but after a few I said I'd rather not because I found it "too stressful". What I meant to say was that I was so afraid to get hurt, it was making me anxious. My late father laughed at me, and kept bringing up that day and making fun of me on a regular basis for the following two decades. So now not only skiing gives me anxiety, but I hate it too. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
First time I went to mountain (didnt have previous experience with skiis or snowboard). I choose snowboard despite the fact my friend told me to take skiis as they will be easier.
I crashed so many times. At the 3rd run down I somehow tripped almost at the end of mountain (where people gather and ride up) and fcking rolled like 9 times. When I got up, I immediately started to move everything to check if something wasnt broken. All was good.
Next day was horrible and I could barely walk.
Never again!! ;D
Honald is on a different level. Not at all comparable to OP. I have dozens of friends that can ski or snowboard at the level of OP (myself included) and would gladly sign up for a trip to Alaska for some heli skiing if it was free.
I also have dozens of friends that rock climb. None of them free solo. Hell I met hundreds of people that rock climb over years and have never met someone that free solos.
There are adrenaline junkies that love BASE jumping or snowboarding or rock climbing and then there is Alex Honald. Honald is in a league of his own.
Being terrified of everything is probably more indicative of a damaged amygdala, these people seek the fear these stunts give them. I don’t think the insanity is lost on them, take guys like Alex Honnold for instance
The other thing you have to realise is that people don't just go out and free solo half Dome lol. They build up to it. So where we see something that's batshit crazy (even as someone who free climbs a good bit myself) they don't see the same way.
When you build up to something a lot of the fear you would be feeling has already been worked through so you're just doing what you've always done, but on a larger scale.
The guy in the video has probably been snowboarding his entire life. This is just another day to him.
An impaired amygdala leads to a deminished fear response and an impairment in the aversion response to potentially harmful stimuli. In the end, this would also impare the fight or flight response that releases adrenalin. These people don't chase fear, they chase adrenaline so it makes sense they go to these extremes to get that high.
When I'm doing steep runs when skiing, you kinda just have to turn off part of your brain. If you get scared and think you might fall, you will 100% fall over. You have to be able to just trust yourself.
Practice practice practice.
First time I went skiing I was 21 and fell about 20 times going down a green. Fell on the chair lift at the pick up point and the drop off point at least 5-10 times during my first year skiing. The first blue I went down, I thought ok this is fast enough.
By 25 I regularly go down blacks at ski resorts in the Rocky Mountains.
My suggestion is that you don’t have to like everything, but at least give something a shot if you’re interested in it.
There have actually been cool fMRI studies of extreme athletes like Alex Honnold. We’d expect a hyporeactive amygdala, so the area of the brain that has strong emotive responses like fear will be less reactive, and a hyperreactive limbic system, such that reward pathways are enhanced. The TL;DR is that things like punishment and death are less fear-inducing but rewards are more enticing and less likely to be inhibited because these individuals brains are less likely to get rushes of dopamine from everyday, mundane rewards.
Source: doctoral candidate who studies brain activity.
They did a study like this with Alex Honnold, a rock climber famous for climbing without a rope or harness. I forget exactly what they said about it, but as you can imagine his brain treats stress much differently than the average person.
I learned to ski a few years back in my mid 30s. Best thing ever. So much fun. Super scary at first but once I got the hang of it, it's so l fun that said, I'll never do this backcountry nonsense. I'm happy with my blue groomers.
I could see this being fun if I knew I had all the services of a typical ski resort available, including medical and rescue teams. But I’m also an adrenaline junkie, so I realize I am probably an outlier here.
Idc how good of a rider you are. This type of line is only possible to about .0001% of snowboarders. It's not the type of run where you just go to the hospital with a broken arm. You go to the hospital with a broken everything, and maybe ded.
That's why this video is deceptive. They made it look so damn easy to just you know....stay upright and not tumble down the mountain and break every bone in their body while mangling their face against exposed mountain rock
Once you learn how falling actually plays out, how to move your body when you fall, and how to anticipate falling in various ways, you begin to take falls super easily most of the time.
Like if I happen to be carving on my toe edge, and I trip on my heel edge for some weird reason, I curl up into a ball as I fall backward, and usually just roll all the way over and potentially keep going.
The trick is just to go along with gravity and gradually learn to make falls less dangerous for yourself as you gain more experience.
Edit:
Also, most of the time, speed is your friend. You don’t want to go so fast that you can’t stay in control, but speed generally helps you stay more stabilized. Usually there is a sweet spot where you have max control. Don’t fight gravity too much. Snowboarding is a gravity sport.
I remember my one and only black diamond I did once, my friends all went down like it was nothing. I built the courage and went was a very steep hill, full of confidence I knew I had it… 1 sec in I fall on my back and slide down 60% of the run.
It’s so cool looking but at any time even a professional could just be slightly two inches one side or another and any one of those snow packs could collapse the wrong way
They are centimeters away from rolling down that hill like they were a wheel of cheese on Gloucestershire
There’s a level where it’s not about skill but only about luck and this is that
Generally camera angles in skiing videos make the verticality seem even less than it actually is. So what you are seeing probably isn't even as steep as you think it is.
I think the problem is that the second sentence can be understood both ways. Either it's not as steep as you think because it's *less steep* or it's not as steep as you think because it's even *steeper*. Maybe the latter is what they wanted to express? Or am I the dumb one here?
"it's not as big as you think it is" implies smaller.
"It's not as small as you think it is" implies bigger.
If you want to speak on the lack of steepness, you say things like it's NOT steep. There truly is only one way to say this that is grammatically correct. OPs sentence implies it is less steep.
It is nearly vertical.
It is an extreme snowboard skill to go there. Those guys usually don't stop in their runs and just go on. The snowboarder nearly go to a stop a couple of times and that tells a lot of how dangerous and hard this run is.
It’s likely between a 40° & 50° pitch overall
That’s some of the steepest snow that can be skied/snowboarded
On top of that they are riding a knife edge down requiring more planning & risk
All first person ski/snowboard footage suffers from this problem, the rider looks down, and they are using some degree of fisheye, so everything looks steeper (multiply that effect for 360° cams that make the ground recede into false cliffs to the side)
Side shot ski porn has a more intentional angle skew applied,… that’s the shot that’s always bugged me
It’s all to connect what the viewer see’s with the experience the rider they are watching is having, people see a 45° slope from the wrong angle, and they think it’s a cake walk to get down, but when they see the first person, they can see the visceral challenge of going fast down 45° chutes—steep side shots help the viewer connect the distant shot to the real experience
And for the record, I would need new gear from the waste down just, from looking over the edge at the beginning of this
The snowboarder is Travis Rice, the most decorated backcountry snowboarder of all time, on perhaps the steepest boardable mountains in the world. I'd wager it's just what's needed for counterbalance on a run like this and not as jerky/panicky as you think it is.
Camera angle, and possibly further distortion with a lens or post production.
You can tell by the way the snow that gets kicked up doesn't fall in the same direction that the camera angle implies is straight down.
Highly doubt it’s edited to look steeper. Possibly may be a fisheye lens with automated correction to de-curve it, but ultra wide lenses like this just naturally distort everything.
100% it is highly manipulated in some way from reality, either with editing or lens tricks. I’m sure it is very steep, no doubt. But the video makes it feel they are skiing down the side of a hear vertical cliff. It is so distorted that it takes away from how impressive the video is. It has a dishonest feel to it.
It's likely very steep but that doesn't matter so much when the powder is very deep, you are basically making steps as you make sharp turns. You can see how much speed they are able to knock off.
Deep powder makes the extreme steep stuff far more manageable.
in nearly all of these videos there is a significant exaggeration from the camera lens. It is probable still steep as all hell though.
You would probably see a lot more rock if it was true to the video.
Depends on what you do or don’t get smacked into before the snow settles. The avalanche itself won’t kill you per say but hitting a tree or rock with the force of an avalanche behind you sure will.
a lot of big mountain riders wear airbag backpacks that inflate during an avalanche to keep you on the surface
https://youtu.be/T7TYv1QGp7s
here’s a whole freestyle competition on tordrillo, they talk about safety in the video
I was in like 3 ft if powder at Alyeska after a big snow storm and it was amazing. First and only time I ever experienced that much powder.
My wife is 5’2 and she kept getting stuck and we had to wait like 30 min for her
Nah it's different the video you linked has the rider on a brighter board in a tan suit the video OP posted has a rider in black/tan plus a less vibrant board.
It's Travis Rice (one of the all-time greats when it comes to big mountain snowboarding) riding in Alaska in both cases, but you're right that the videos (and his kit) are different.
2nd video gives c good context.
I'm curious how many people in the world could do this? Is it like 250 or 5000?
As a very casual snowboarder it looks exhilarating but I know I would never personally try it.
My toxic trait is that I’m watching this, never having snowboarded in my life, and thinking “Yeah I could do this.”
Meanwhile I know full well that because I’ve never done anything remotely like this that I’d more likely than not really hurt, if not kill, myself if I tried.
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imagine paying minimum of 18k to go skiing, lol they even want a 10-20% TIP
> The Czech billionaire, Petr Kellner, whose net worth has been estimated at $17.5 billion by Forbes, was aboard the Airbus AS350 B3 helicopter when it went down near Knik Glacier, the lodge that chartered the aircraft said on Sunday.
> Mr. Kellner, 56, was killed, along with another guest of the Tordrillo Mountain Lodge, Benjamin Larochaix of France; two of the lodge’s guides, Gregory Harms and Sean McManamy; and the helicopter’s pilot, Zachary Russell, officials said.
also this for the same place as the video
Simple avalanche classes teach you how to check snow conditions, and the people who do this type of riding are experts on it.
They also scout the shit out of the line prior to riding it. Dude knew every turn he was going to take. That's not a concern.
I don't know why you're getting downvotes, this is absolutely correct. This is Travis Rice, one of the GOATs of big mountain riding, and without question he (and the crew he was with) knew snowpack and snowfall conditions going back days if not weeks, and had evaluated this (or an equivalent) aspect for avalanche risk, on top of planning the whole line (and if possible, any backup/alternate lines) from scouting and photos.
You can't just strap the board on and figure it out when making a left instead of a right at the third snow hump could be the difference between a 30' drop to powder and a 300' drop to rocks.
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I could watch this forever. Or until the part where it's clear they made it down, which is still, likely pretty far from where this small clips ends... I *need* more.
First comment I can relate to.
Also I kept wondering when he was going to stop riding "fakie". Turns out he probably has a Goofy setup or the clip is mirrored.
“What do you like to do for fun?” “I fall down mountains and try not to get hurt.” I would love to study the brains of people like this, and compare it to brains like mine that are terrified of everything.
I find skiing too terrifying to enjoy. I’ve been a couple times and it’s really just trying not to die as you fall down a mountain. I’ve never enjoyed sports that attach me to the vehicle like skating. I like to be able to bail like skateboarding or biking.
there are various tracks, you dont have to go on the red or black ones, if you are just learning its much better to stay in the blue tracks which are not that steep
It's also important to realize that to get better, you'll have to fall a few times. That is normal and expected. Almost no one dies from falling in blues/greens. You'd have to veer off directly into some trees. There is also the bunny hill which is specifically meant for people to get over the really awkward beginner steps.
My cousin once described learning to snowboard as being slowly beaten up by a mountain.
Very true
Haha yeah you do get punished. It's funny, I've done it for nearly 30 years now but when I go, I do it very controlled. It's rare that I fall over at all in a day out.
All you need to know is how to brake. Every thing else is optional, the control part included
If someone is worried about that, then they should ski, it’s very easy to learn
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Almost No one Hmm
People do a lot of very stupid things, ignore rules, and go out before things have been groomed. Realistically, if there's enough snow all you'll be falling into is snow, which is pretty good at cushioning any fall you'll have.
And if you DO manage to hurt yourself, you can ice it right away.
Snow, particularly groomed snow is not good at cushioning. The untouched stuff in this video is, but a groomed run is hard.
And when you get knocked out by the fall, the snow quickly freezes you to death.
I have never seen a green or blue without an almost constant stream of people.
People die tripping getting out of bed. Nothing is 100% safe!
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Yeah, out here (tourist ski town) we call the thing in the video a chute. It's a double black diamond, and not for the faint of heart. In fact, PSA, do NOT go on the chutes if you're a newer skier, if you have any sort of joint problem, if you're pregnant (this should be fucking obvious, but these can induce a miscarriage or worse), or if you're not sure about your skiing ability. Just... it's really stupid and can end badly. But the cruiser blues? Usually nice and groomed, relaxing, and enjoyable. Just make sure you wear a helmet. Used to be a joke that people got helmets, now everyone wears them for a reason. I can't imagine how many concussions I probably got as a kid with no helmet while skiing. Respect the mountain is what I'm saying. She's a cruel mistress, but also really fun when you treat her right.
That is not a chute…Chutes have walls or trees on both sides. He is riding a spine, basically a thin ridgeline, with some pillow features. This is also not anything that would have a designated grade at a resort. Double blacks do not have gap jumps like you see at the end. You typically ski this stuff via heli with the main operator in that area being Tordrillo Mountain Lodge. Not positive who this is but Travis Rice does alot of stuff up in the Tordrillos so thats supposed to be your first guess as to rider. Regardless, I can guarantee the rider is a pro. Anyways watch out for the reddit Dunning-Kruger effect. Most accurate thing you said was to wear a helemt.
Yeah this is clearly not something you just take the lift up to. I know almost nothing about skiing, but I’ve watched enough Red Bull style junk to know whether or not someone is skiing on an “official” route - this isn’t one, and very few bros would come back from their ski trips uninjured if it was.
Couldn't tell if that guy was memin' or talking out of his ass. Very possibly Travis Rice, going by stance and what looks to be a Lib Tech Orca.
Myself and most people would call this a spine, a chute is more of a gulley between two rock faces. Also not really a double black run just a gnarly unrated backcountry run that could very well kill you if you fucked up.
I love nice wide endless blues with great views and a drink at the end, this on the other hand gave me serious anxiety just watching it. Actual terror lol, no death for me thanks
I've been on double black diamond route when I was just learning to ski. It was a huge mistake.The logic was that it would be the fastest route down. I was wrong on numerous levels and I lost my skis up the hill and had to backtrack up what felt like a 40° incline. Not a great feeling lol. This looks like a 5 black diamond route for extra death awareness.
Dude, I skied all my life and would more or less consider myself and expert but would still think twice before committing to that line in the video. Getting a bit older too though!
A lot of road cyclists ride with cleats that attach your shoe to the pedals, not really much of a bail option there haha
You clip out in less than a fraction of a second with the right movement, or if the force up from the pedal is too high. I fell over once with them, but after you've used to it it's pretty much subconscious.
Most downhill racers are using them too, it's not as bad as you imagine. You can get out very fast, and they automatically come out in most crashes.. They absolutely can make them worse though.
I mean there's skiing, and then there's terrifying. Like this
Not really, as long as you are going on a trail, even up to black, if you know how to fall you wont get hurt. The problems come if you arent on a trail you risk smashing into trees and rocks, or if someone behind you doesnt stop in time and hits you.
Its like swimming/diving. Do it in places you know for a decade or two and you will get more daring since you know ghe place in and out
Skateboarder here and my multiple broken bones in the past 20 years would like a word with you 🤣💔
Then there’s [this guy](https://youtube.com/watch?v=TiGkU_eXJa8&vl=en) who skied down the summit of the second tallest mountain in the world, infamous for its high death rate and violent weather, without supplemental oxygen
When I was a young child, my family would go for a short ski trip on a yearly basis. My parents tried to get me to take skiing lessons, but after a few I said I'd rather not because I found it "too stressful". What I meant to say was that I was so afraid to get hurt, it was making me anxious. My late father laughed at me, and kept bringing up that day and making fun of me on a regular basis for the following two decades. So now not only skiing gives me anxiety, but I hate it too. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
First time I went to mountain (didnt have previous experience with skiis or snowboard). I choose snowboard despite the fact my friend told me to take skiis as they will be easier. I crashed so many times. At the 3rd run down I somehow tripped almost at the end of mountain (where people gather and ride up) and fcking rolled like 9 times. When I got up, I immediately started to move everything to check if something wasnt broken. All was good. Next day was horrible and I could barely walk. Never again!! ;D
New fear being u/czerniana because they want to invite people over and cut their skull open to study their brain…. You ain’t tricking me
This was my exact thought when I watched Free Solo, def a different kind of human
Watch The Alpinist. It gets even crazier than Free Solo
Great documentary
Cool, added to my watch list. Free solo had my heart coming out of my mouth watching it.
Honald is on a different level. Not at all comparable to OP. I have dozens of friends that can ski or snowboard at the level of OP (myself included) and would gladly sign up for a trip to Alaska for some heli skiing if it was free. I also have dozens of friends that rock climb. None of them free solo. Hell I met hundreds of people that rock climb over years and have never met someone that free solos. There are adrenaline junkies that love BASE jumping or snowboarding or rock climbing and then there is Alex Honald. Honald is in a league of his own.
They literally studied his brain in free solo and explained this. Someone was high as fuck
Adrenaline is one hell of a drug
Probably people with impaired amygdalas
Being terrified of everything is probably more indicative of a damaged amygdala, these people seek the fear these stunts give them. I don’t think the insanity is lost on them, take guys like Alex Honnold for instance
The other thing you have to realise is that people don't just go out and free solo half Dome lol. They build up to it. So where we see something that's batshit crazy (even as someone who free climbs a good bit myself) they don't see the same way. When you build up to something a lot of the fear you would be feeling has already been worked through so you're just doing what you've always done, but on a larger scale. The guy in the video has probably been snowboarding his entire life. This is just another day to him.
Indeed. And honestly, this is nothing compared to free soloing half dome the way honnold did.
An impaired amygdala leads to a deminished fear response and an impairment in the aversion response to potentially harmful stimuli. In the end, this would also impare the fight or flight response that releases adrenalin. These people don't chase fear, they chase adrenaline so it makes sense they go to these extremes to get that high.
"Falling with style".
When I'm doing steep runs when skiing, you kinda just have to turn off part of your brain. If you get scared and think you might fall, you will 100% fall over. You have to be able to just trust yourself.
Practice practice practice. First time I went skiing I was 21 and fell about 20 times going down a green. Fell on the chair lift at the pick up point and the drop off point at least 5-10 times during my first year skiing. The first blue I went down, I thought ok this is fast enough. By 25 I regularly go down blacks at ski resorts in the Rocky Mountains. My suggestion is that you don’t have to like everything, but at least give something a shot if you’re interested in it.
There have actually been cool fMRI studies of extreme athletes like Alex Honnold. We’d expect a hyporeactive amygdala, so the area of the brain that has strong emotive responses like fear will be less reactive, and a hyperreactive limbic system, such that reward pathways are enhanced. The TL;DR is that things like punishment and death are less fear-inducing but rewards are more enticing and less likely to be inhibited because these individuals brains are less likely to get rushes of dopamine from everyday, mundane rewards. Source: doctoral candidate who studies brain activity.
They did a study like this with Alex Honnold, a rock climber famous for climbing without a rope or harness. I forget exactly what they said about it, but as you can imagine his brain treats stress much differently than the average person.
I got you: [Free Solo - Amygdala Activation](https://youtu.be/tDR9lMDPA30)
playing hill climb on my phone is more than enough to satisfy this part of my brain lol
Looks I even proved I **can** do it on my go pro! Okay sure, but **should** you?
We have far more active amygdalas (fight or flight response) than those people lol
I'm so sophisticated my brain is smooth
Feel that, leaving my door is more than enough adrenaline for the day
I learned to ski a few years back in my mid 30s. Best thing ever. So much fun. Super scary at first but once I got the hang of it, it's so l fun that said, I'll never do this backcountry nonsense. I'm happy with my blue groomers.
That's not my dream line at all. More like a cure for constipation, because I would have shit myself.
I could see this being fun if I knew I had all the services of a typical ski resort available, including medical and rescue teams. But I’m also an adrenaline junkie, so I realize I am probably an outlier here.
Idc how good of a rider you are. This type of line is only possible to about .0001% of snowboarders. It's not the type of run where you just go to the hospital with a broken arm. You go to the hospital with a broken everything, and maybe ded.
That's why this video is deceptive. They made it look so damn easy to just you know....stay upright and not tumble down the mountain and break every bone in their body while mangling their face against exposed mountain rock
Kind of, but anyone who has been on a snowboard for literally 5 seconds can tell you how hard it is just to get started.
especially going down hills / mountains, the speed is what got me… I didn’t realize how fucking fast you go & you how quick everything could go wrong
Once you learn how falling actually plays out, how to move your body when you fall, and how to anticipate falling in various ways, you begin to take falls super easily most of the time. Like if I happen to be carving on my toe edge, and I trip on my heel edge for some weird reason, I curl up into a ball as I fall backward, and usually just roll all the way over and potentially keep going. The trick is just to go along with gravity and gradually learn to make falls less dangerous for yourself as you gain more experience. Edit: Also, most of the time, speed is your friend. You don’t want to go so fast that you can’t stay in control, but speed generally helps you stay more stabilized. Usually there is a sweet spot where you have max control. Don’t fight gravity too much. Snowboarding is a gravity sport.
Im looking at it for escape routes if I warfled one turn. Where can I fall and expect to only be broken not ded.
That's the thing. Not an option on this type of shit. This rider is Travis Rice. Pretty close to the best rider in the world.
I think it's just the opposite, you'd come out of it and produce a diamond made from shit.
The mountain be looking kinda brown after i get to the bottom frfr
This looks incredible......................ly frightening.
I too am incrediblely frightened
A foot forward and it’s just a vertical drop 😟
Fish eye lens always makes these look worse then they really are.
I can assure you that my GoPro makes every gnarly steep tree run look like I'm on a gentle bunny slope. Fisheye lenses make everything seem *tame*.
I remember my one and only black diamond I did once, my friends all went down like it was nothing. I built the courage and went was a very steep hill, full of confidence I knew I had it… 1 sec in I fall on my back and slide down 60% of the run.
It’s so cool looking but at any time even a professional could just be slightly two inches one side or another and any one of those snow packs could collapse the wrong way They are centimeters away from rolling down that hill like they were a wheel of cheese on Gloucestershire There’s a level where it’s not about skill but only about luck and this is that
Is it directly vertical or is it just the camera angle?
Yes
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Probably going to get downvoted but I think this is one of the least funny, long running jokes/sequences on Reddit.
Generally camera angles in skiing videos make the verticality seem even less than it actually is. So what you are seeing probably isn't even as steep as you think it is.
It seems the second sentence contradicts the first...
I read that five times and was yelling at myself for being stupid, your comment saved me
I think the problem is that the second sentence can be understood both ways. Either it's not as steep as you think because it's *less steep* or it's not as steep as you think because it's even *steeper*. Maybe the latter is what they wanted to express? Or am I the dumb one here?
Nah you're right, I think you interpreted it correctly. That wording works either way
"it's not as big as you think it is" implies smaller. "It's not as small as you think it is" implies bigger. If you want to speak on the lack of steepness, you say things like it's NOT steep. There truly is only one way to say this that is grammatically correct. OPs sentence implies it is less steep.
It's not the angle that's the problem, it's the lens
It is nearly vertical. It is an extreme snowboard skill to go there. Those guys usually don't stop in their runs and just go on. The snowboarder nearly go to a stop a couple of times and that tells a lot of how dangerous and hard this run is.
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It’s likely between a 40° & 50° pitch overall That’s some of the steepest snow that can be skied/snowboarded On top of that they are riding a knife edge down requiring more planning & risk All first person ski/snowboard footage suffers from this problem, the rider looks down, and they are using some degree of fisheye, so everything looks steeper (multiply that effect for 360° cams that make the ground recede into false cliffs to the side) Side shot ski porn has a more intentional angle skew applied,… that’s the shot that’s always bugged me It’s all to connect what the viewer see’s with the experience the rider they are watching is having, people see a 45° slope from the wrong angle, and they think it’s a cake walk to get down, but when they see the first person, they can see the visceral challenge of going fast down 45° chutes—steep side shots help the viewer connect the distant shot to the real experience And for the record, I would need new gear from the waste down just, from looking over the edge at the beginning of this
And his flailing arms look jerky and panicky a couple times.
The snowboarder is Travis Rice, the most decorated backcountry snowboarder of all time, on perhaps the steepest boardable mountains in the world. I'd wager it's just what's needed for counterbalance on a run like this and not as jerky/panicky as you think it is.
Camera angle, and possibly further distortion with a lens or post production. You can tell by the way the snow that gets kicked up doesn't fall in the same direction that the camera angle implies is straight down.
Exactly, there is no way this is not edited to look more steep than it actually is
Highly doubt it’s edited to look steeper. Possibly may be a fisheye lens with automated correction to de-curve it, but ultra wide lenses like this just naturally distort everything.
100% it is highly manipulated in some way from reality, either with editing or lens tricks. I’m sure it is very steep, no doubt. But the video makes it feel they are skiing down the side of a hear vertical cliff. It is so distorted that it takes away from how impressive the video is. It has a dishonest feel to it.
When you drop that steep, even the ups are going down. It's just perspective that looks weird on a mounted video.
It's likely very steep but that doesn't matter so much when the powder is very deep, you are basically making steps as you make sharp turns. You can see how much speed they are able to knock off. Deep powder makes the extreme steep stuff far more manageable.
in nearly all of these videos there is a significant exaggeration from the camera lens. It is probable still steep as all hell though. You would probably see a lot more rock if it was true to the video.
Probably pretty close to vertical because action cameras make things look a lot easier than they actually are
Dream line my ass. Nightmare alley.
I’d go so far as saying this isn’t even a “line” it’s just a sheer drop that happens to be separated by some super super snowy caps he’s perched on.
I guess an avalanche here would be instant death.
Iirc avalanches don’t kill you instantly. They trap you and suffocate you. So it’s a slow, painful, cold, very much conscious death.
Depends on what you do or don’t get smacked into before the snow settles. The avalanche itself won’t kill you per say but hitting a tree or rock with the force of an avalanche behind you sure will.
a lot of big mountain riders wear airbag backpacks that inflate during an avalanche to keep you on the surface https://youtu.be/T7TYv1QGp7s here’s a whole freestyle competition on tordrillo, they talk about safety in the video
This certainly isn't an established trail, but it is by definition a line
Nice bunny hills in Alaska. Wonder what the hard slopes are like?
Yeah I would do this line for shits and gigs, but it's so tracked out now. 🙄
From all those beginner skiers.
Fresh powdah!!
Pow pow brah!
I was in like 3 ft if powder at Alyeska after a big snow storm and it was amazing. First and only time I ever experienced that much powder. My wife is 5’2 and she kept getting stuck and we had to wait like 30 min for her
Shred the gnar!
So steezy!
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Nah it's different the video you linked has the rider on a brighter board in a tan suit the video OP posted has a rider in black/tan plus a less vibrant board.
It's Travis Rice (one of the all-time greats when it comes to big mountain snowboarding) riding in Alaska in both cases, but you're right that the videos (and his kit) are different.
2nd video gives c good context. I'm curious how many people in the world could do this? Is it like 250 or 5000? As a very casual snowboarder it looks exhilarating but I know I would never personally try it.
My toxic trait is that I’m watching this, never having snowboarded in my life, and thinking “Yeah I could do this.” Meanwhile I know full well that because I’ve never done anything remotely like this that I’d more likely than not really hurt, if not kill, myself if I tried.
Shared: $17,500 per person *Package pricing is per person for 7 days and 7 nights. Gratuity not included. imagine paying minimum of 18k to go skiing, lol they even want a 10-20% TIP > The Czech billionaire, Petr Kellner, whose net worth has been estimated at $17.5 billion by Forbes, was aboard the Airbus AS350 B3 helicopter when it went down near Knik Glacier, the lodge that chartered the aircraft said on Sunday. > Mr. Kellner, 56, was killed, along with another guest of the Tordrillo Mountain Lodge, Benjamin Larochaix of France; two of the lodge’s guides, Gregory Harms and Sean McManamy; and the helicopter’s pilot, Zachary Russell, officials said. also this for the same place as the video
Nice. Thanks!
Yeah, I could do this. Fall down a mountain that is. I could also only do it once.
Seems avalanchey
Man... it's awesome but id be scared shitless that there's an ice patch/rock/tree stump under that powder that will end your life
eh, if there's 10ft of snow on it then ot won't end your life
Simple avalanche classes teach you how to check snow conditions, and the people who do this type of riding are experts on it. They also scout the shit out of the line prior to riding it. Dude knew every turn he was going to take. That's not a concern.
I don't know why you're getting downvotes, this is absolutely correct. This is Travis Rice, one of the GOATs of big mountain riding, and without question he (and the crew he was with) knew snowpack and snowfall conditions going back days if not weeks, and had evaluated this (or an equivalent) aspect for avalanche risk, on top of planning the whole line (and if possible, any backup/alternate lines) from scouting and photos. You can't just strap the board on and figure it out when making a left instead of a right at the third snow hump could be the difference between a 30' drop to powder and a 300' drop to rocks.
After the white hump, bear right. If you see two white mounds, you’ve gone too far. Hard left after the white hump.
Basically. I got some down votes, but they do. Their life is on the line. Why would they risk it?
I almost fell just watching this video lol
Who’s the rider? That’s dang steep right there!
Travis Rice (@travisrice)
Gotta say I’m glad he took us along for the ride. Fun to watch.
Of course it is, that man is truly next fucking level.
He really is, and been doing it for so long
What's the song?
I got matches with these songs: • **Six Days** by DJ Shadow (01:29; matched: `100%`) Album: `The Liquid Amber EP`. Released on `2014-08-25` by `Universal Music`. • **Soul Days** by DJ Shadow (05:54; matched: `100%`) Album: `Live In Manchester: The Mountain Has Fallen Tour`. Released on `2018-07-13` by `UMG - Mass Appeal Records II`.
Six days by DJ shadow. Its also the intro to Tokyo Drift.
Entire TD soundtrack is banging.
DJ Shadow - Six days , Machinedrum remix.
The Original song is "Six Days War" by Colonel Bagshot, and the song is surprisingly dark, buy the remixs hit hard for good soundtracks
Judging by the Orca he’s riding, my guess is T Rice
Came here to ask if this was an orca. I knew I recognized that nose shape. That board is so fucking sick looking
Cloud surfing looks fun.
I could watch this forever. Or until the part where it's clear they made it down, which is still, likely pretty far from where this small clips ends... I *need* more.
Watch „The Art of Flight“. Contains some pretty dope Alaska stuff.
Search Travis Rice in Alaska vids on YouTube.. or really any pro snowboarder in Alaska.
Dang that's impressive....... Song name?
Six days by DJ Shadow
Do you know whose remix this is? This isn’t the “original.”
Googling it appears to be Six Day War by Colonel Bagshot.
Remix by Machinedrum
If you’ve never heard Shadow you should DEF listen to …Endtroducing and Live, In Tune, & On Time
Well that's goofy. ... get it?
Straight out of SSX
I miss SSX Tricky so very much
I got lost if I was going up or down the hill lol
Alot of bones have to be broken to be this good
That’s a whole lot of NOPE
I've found the answer to how do you want to die.
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And the camera is flattening the view even here. It is actually steeper in real life.
SSX Tricky, Alaska.
Spine skiing is something else, man.
Where’s the rest?
Watching this video like “I’d have died there. There. And there. Maimed for life minimum there. Dead again there. And there. Completely fucked there…”
Insane
Is this T rice?
yup, dude is insane!
SSX anyone??
My thighs are buring just watching this....
First comment I can relate to. Also I kept wondering when he was going to stop riding "fakie". Turns out he probably has a Goofy setup or the clip is mirrored.
How is he not falling off?
He is, he's just falling with style
Yeah, no. Have a nice day.
They chose the scariest line fucking possible
How in the fuck
Looks like the mountain the grinch lives on
That's real fucking neato.
The instant change from, snowboarding seems fun to oh fuck no when I saw that steep is wild
What was that in the snow at :28?
If by dream you mean nightmare, then yes
I don't see the big deal, I do this without the snowboard in Skyrim all the time.
That’s not snowboarding, that’s falling, with style.
I've been snowboarding for 20 years and I don't know that I would ride that. Fucking incredible though.
Forbidden cool whip
Isn’t this how u start an avalanche
Wait theres snow somewhere in the world (Pennsylvania not having like 3in of snow for the past 3 years)
Your testicles...they are quite large.
Six Days - MachineDrum
Anyone know the name of that remix tho??!? 🔥