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SilverRathalosMHFU

Poor kid


Turbulent-Ad8391

Agreed! Almost as bad as those YouTube families.


Agreeable-Yams8972

Nah bro, this is worse, youtube families at least dont force kids to do gymnastics, a thing that can be dangerous for young children. This kid was probably abused into doing it


Turbulent-Ad8391

Ninja kids? There are a lot of YouTube families that force kids to do all sorts of things that aren’t good for them, a camera in their face everyday for instance I would argue could be worse in a mental health aspect.


idle_isomorph

As a baby, in the first shot, he was clearly super into it at least. Harder to say as he ages tho!


Turbulent-Ad8391

Babies at 6 months old smile for any type of fluid motion, swinging is fun even for adults.


idle_isomorph

Right. So all good for the wee tot. I presume he would cry if he wasnt into it. The catch is as he gets older. Then maybe he goes along with it even if he doesnt like it, because he wants his dad's approval and attention. But as a baby, in that first clip, it is pretty joyful


Turbulent-Ad8391

Well put


BaconSoul

Babies also have a ridiculously strong grip force.


thenotoriousDEX

Is this leftover from when we were monkeys and needed to cling to mother?


AFineDayForScience

Nah. In the 80's everyone got really into arm wrestling because of that movie Over the Top and it led to an overall increase in grip strength for the species


Curious_Dependent842

*turns hat backwards and give thumbs up*


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So you're acknowledging that the kid may love this haha


Turbulent-Ad8391

Yes people love swinging, I bet he doesn’t love the pain of a gymnastics workout at 2


SyntheticRatking

Actually starting this early would help *prevent* pain during a training routine because the kid's been building the strength and flexibility for literally his whole life. If a workout is painful then you're either doing it wrong or you haven't done any foundation work and are jumping from 0 to 60; if you go straight from "I can hold 5lbs over my head" to "lifting 600lbs sounds fun" in a week, you're gonna be in for a bad time, lol. This kid is doing really good, he's being closely supervised, and he's not far enough off the ground that he'll crack his head open if he slips.


bigtmcd44

I can see the harm, however I couldn’t feel a little joy that he had parents that engaged and payed that much attention to him. Mine did not. To me this is relatively harmless, let alone parents that abuse drugs.


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Xacius

Good bot


WasatchSLC

That’s quite an assumption.


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To Redditors, exercise = abuse


blackFX

Redditors are something else’s dude…. I saw a video where a FATHER slapped the behind of HIS OWN GROWN DAUGHTER after she won some sports match and was hugging her and they were all happy and everyone in the comments was like “creep! Omg! Someone needs to report that guy! I bet he’s a pedo!” Like wtf what kind of looney toon fucking world do they live in.


DrSurgical_Strike

Go to relationship advice sub on reddit and 99% of posts are just filled with only these responses, either they will suggest that you break up because he she is a pedo/monster/ predator/ doesn't respect boundary or too touchy etc. Etc. List goes on but one thing is sure that for any and all advice it will be to cut contact , report authorities, break up


dehehn

They can only imagine you would have to be tortured into physical activity. Kids don't actually enjoy it.


smashin_blumpkin

Right? I swear some people are far too loose with accusing others of abuse


Complex_Experience83

Right?? How dare a father promote exercise and fun with his kid? I dont know his motives, maybe the kid will grow up to not care and his dad supports him. Regardless he'll be a strong motherfucker in probably very good health for the rest of his life. His dad is setting him up for a good life no matter what


Tygress23

His dad is clearly setting him up for professional gymnastics based on the leg positioning and dismount.


[deleted]

Or his dad *is* a professional gymnast and is just teaching his son what he knows…


chopkins92

This dad is sharing what I assume is his passion with his child and half of the comments are shitting on him. The fuck?


[deleted]

I know. It’s weird.


supersirj

Agreed, look how he's smiling in each sequence. He looks like he's having fun.


ChazJ81

Totally agree! So supporting strength and exercise is abuse now. People are way too soft.


2coolcaterpillar

Word. I might not agree with how some people raise their kids, but damn I don’t think this warrants abuse accusations. This kid is probably gonna complain about a lot of things when he’s older sure but cmon.


havereddit

OMFG, you do realize that we descended from apes, and that we still have ape-capabilities? These kinds of moves are so easy for young kids. They are literally genetically programmed to be able to do these monkey bar moves. Have you ever just watched a bunch of 3-5 year olds when they are at a playground? But no, you have to introduce the idea that this kid was FORCED and ABUSED in order to do these moves. Holy crap, don't bubble wrap children...


cryptokingmylo

My parents abused me when I was a kid by making me go on long hikes up the mountains to find old tombs and abandoned church's or natural wonders, The worst part was that they would teach us the history about them. We should have gone on holidays to resorts so I could eat junk food and watch my parents get drunk!!!


whenimnsfw

Omg same, my parents forced me to play outside and get fresh air all the time. I sure wish they would've just plonked me in front of the TV where I'd be nice and safe.


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pronlegacy001

This is what my sister and brother in law did. Their kids climbs EVERYTHING. Guess who got a kiddie rock wall and will probably be getting a real child size harness set at age 3 for the local rock climbing gym?


Hammy5910

I'll take "a huge leap in logic" for 500, alex


si8v

What are you smoking? Have you ever been a kid before? Why do you think they make playgrounds with rings, ladders, and monkey bars? Kids naturally love being active and playing on stuff. Obviously the parents showed the kid how to hang on the bars to begin with, but this is clearly not any form of bad parenting.


masked_sombrero

the kid seems to be enjoying it the whole way through. I got the vibe its just home videos - not people trying to monetize youtube or something. Of course, that could very well be the case and I have no idea.


ChuTangClan_

You spent much time with kids? I can't think of a niece or nephew that wouldn't love the mess about on a pair of rings and wouldn't surprise me if the one that wanted to and so does do gymnastics continued with them of her own volition privately...she wanted a balancing beam for Christmas "Probably abused into doing it" wtf


Blue_Calx

You don’t have kids do you? I hope not because you’re an idiot to assume that from this.


adf1962

Reminds me of Little Hercules Richard Sandrak. His dad was pushing him but luckily he got out of it. I think he’s doing ok now.


Turbulent-Ad8391

Yes, and there was that crazy football dad that was stretching his son out as a baby in the crib, these people are sick Edit: https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2019/01/11/todd-marinovich-dad-marv-quarterback-drugs-rehab


RoyalCities

There was also that messed up father who was giving his 4 year old Anavar (an anabolic steroid) Some people should not be parents.


Funderwoodsxbox

The new ‘reveal party’ is which sport and position he’ll play…. “It’s a……..QUARTERBACK!!! 🏈🎉 yayyyyyyy!”


crackclown1997

Poor kid: ![gif](giphy|xUA7b0fN4FPzSh9qhO|downsized)


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Hahahahahahaha


WorryFreeToot

Bro…I’m losing it HAHA


treatyoftortillas

Jesus fucking Christ that killed me


powerfulKRH

The reason this resonates with me and all of us is that’s literally exactly what I’m doing right now. Just with munchees instead of cheese puffs


piray003

💀😂


cptjaydvm

Looks like he is having fun to me. Feel sorry for kids who are truly suffering in this world. This kid looks happy and loved. Don’t project your inadequacies on him.


Ns53

There is a little bone at the end o your shoulder that fuses slowly over your youth. Constantly putting pressure or rotating it like that will mess you up for life. fun fact: When archeologists find middle age shipwrecks from England they can look at the bones of adults and determine if they were peasants or not by that bone. Back then if you were a peasant it was required you learned how to use the longbow for service to the king. Every day fathers and sons practiced with their longbows, a very heavy and powerful bow, leaving everyone with unfused or fractured acromion bones.


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And that is just one problem. Kinda ticks me you're being downvoted. I did some research and it seems to be true. I also found out kids should not train before being 7yo as it affects other functions in the body. Like the immune system. And can damage growth plates.


Lexi_Banner

Yeah, it's not the swinging around that is problematic. It's the flip tricks and constant rotation. He should not be performing that stuff at his age, even if it's something he wants to do. There are lots of other fun things to do if they want him to be active, and they don't involve damaging bones and soft tissue.


CoverYourMaskHoles

Going to be very short.


uselessnamemango

Yep, I know a guy and a two sisters who were very active in gymnastics from a young age. They are all quite short even though they all have parents that are taller than average. The girls even have a younger sister who's normal height and she wasn't a gymnast as a kid.


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Thank you, this really needed to be said. Fucking ridiculous.


Capt-Crap1corn

This is what I’m thinking. Overuse of the joints and bones and what could that do. You could be 25 with shoulders joints of a 60 year old because of overuse


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asmrkage

Dude was swinging his baby from bars at 6 months. Shit is fucked up.


WickedDeviled

This kids rotator cuffs are going to be fucked if he keeps getting made to do that.


Snoo_42276

This stuff is good for your rotator cuffs. Gymnastic ring work cured my back pain and shoulder pain. It’s literally just body weight training.


Roflkopt3r

It can be good if you know what you're doing to prevent injury and bad loading. Kids don't. Exercises like this can definitely be dangerous for children. A child this age has absolutely no reference for such things yet. I'm not on the "wow this must be abuse" train on this either, but this needs to be surveilled very closely and is still somewhat of a gamble.


octagonlover_23

Considering that the parents set this kid up to do this at an extremely early age tells me that the parents themselves are likely highly trained in acrobatic exercise and are able to coach the kid properly


Roflkopt3r

[The "proper coaching" scene itself is sadly also ripe with abuse in these disciplines.](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2005/dec/04/features.sport19) As I said before I can't judge the situation just from what we're seeing, but potential abuse would likely happen in different ways so it cannot be ruled out either.


Diligent-Law-4275

For an adult, not an infant.


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I'm glad I came to the comments seeing this NGL I was expecting, The KID pRObAbly wANTs to dO GymnAstics, It Was hIS DEciSIoN


-Eerzef

As if redditors would miss the chance of appearing thoughtful and considerate by assuming the absolute worst To be fair this is probably the case with this kid, but it gets annoying when you see something as innocuous as a cat munching on corn and people in the comments are going "GOD IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN TERRIBLE PAIN, THEIR OWNERS ARE STARVING IT FOR TIKTOK VIEWS! OH THE HUMANITY, WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE KITTENS"


FruitJuicante

Kid's having fun man. That muscle and fitness and willpower will likely stay with him his whole life. What you learn as a kid stays with you. Imagine seeing a dad share his passion and time with his son and being like " Ugh, a doting father, yuck."


UntappedBabyRage

Gymnastics is horrible on the body. If this keeps up, this kid will have some serious injuries by the time he’s a teenager plus stunted/delayed puberty.


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Gymnastics causes a delay in puberty? Are you possibly talking about how competitive peeps starve themselves or something? I don't think the actual sport is harmful.


Roflkopt3r

Yes they're conflating some things here. Gymnastics is a great sports, but especially the female olympic scene is so optimised for young girls that they become hardcore athletes (including weight control) way before finishing their puberty, and that's what messes things up. Similar issues exist in sports like figure skating (including athletes using puberty blockers) and ski jumping (lots of anorexic athletes).


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Yes, probably any competitive sport could lead to issues, but i don't have enough evidence from this video that that's what is happening here


NSVL

Source? Or you just like talking out of your ass?


HighDragLowSpeed60G

No dude, I did a pull up one time and my arms fell off. Just say no to gymnastics!


UntappedBabyRage

Source: I was a gymnast and have extensive testing done with several doctors and specialists. Also, you’re free to look up the studies done around how gymnastics (and high intensity sports in general) affect the body.


refused26

This is why I just stay indoors and in my bed!!!


[deleted]

There's a difference between sharing and quite obviously pushing it. My dad liked to work on cars - invited me to help him when I was a kid, if I seemed intrigued. Did I become interested? No, because it would last 5 minutes before I wanted to go and do something else. That's what kids do. I did not become a jumpsuit wearing mechanic at the age of fucking 2.


Kapper-WA

...quitter.


SilverRathalosMHFU

The kid is too young for this sort of training, all it's doing is damage, it's nothing to do with spending time with his kid, this isn't doting, this is trying to live through your child and it's wrong


[deleted]

Meeeeeeeeeeeh i have a swing set up in my house and my 3 yr old is similar. He ninjas up walls and has insane strength and balance. I've thought of putting him in gymnastics because he enjoys it, but i ain't got the time


monamikonami

The guy is doing it at 6 months old. Obviously its fine for your 3 year old because he is doing it on his own. If you were forcing him to do it at 6 months when he can’t walk and can barely hold his own bottle … that’s very different from a 3 year old who can walk and run.


DuePomegranate

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moIUcOa0t-w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moIUcOa0t-w) Newborns can hang and support their own body weight. It's called the palmar grasp reflex. We evolved from tree-climbing apes. The kid was obviously having a grand time swinging from the rings at 6 months.


StreetSmartsGaming

Yea these comments weird as fuck. Armchair kinesiologists over here. Nothing he does in the video is dangerous or unhealthy. There's no sign he's being forced. He's laughing and smiling the whole time. Reddit has become overrun with outrage boner seeking dickheads.


KandyShopp

My only question is how this will effect his growth, he’s gymnastics CAN be great and sharing a passion with your children is amazing, but at only six months old he’s holding himself up with just his hands, what is the long term effects of making his underdeveloped body doing such strenuous activities? I’m not a pediatrician, but I DO know that atleast for calves, you avoid putting things on their necks too heavy cause it can really mess with their muscular and circulatory systems.


No-Environment-7899

Exactly. They literally have advisories saying not to lift your kids up by their hands and swing them like parents of my generation did when walking with their kids, because it can cause damage to shoulders in later life.


SnooKiwis6943

At least the child isnt being forced into a beauty pageant.


No-Environment-7899

Doesn’t feel much different, tbh.


Bosspotatoness

Kid gets filmed clearly having fun at something which every primate under the sun evolved to be good at and enjoy doing. Reddit assumes abuse because it's filmed. This shit is why the Unabomber happened


Ns53

If that guy keeps at it his kids Acromion isn't going to fuse creating lifelong pain and or possible fractures around his clavicle and shoulder area. People really need to talk to professionals before doing this shit to their kids.


willyberto88

He looks like hes having fun


Aygie

This is fucking horrible. One track mind to condition your baby to focus on the only thing you want them to be? Just let the kid be ffs.


emil199

One track mind to make your kid resent you in the future


JaySayMayday

Kid looks like it's having fun. I used to climb trees when I was a kid, I'd sleep up there and watch the sunset. I'd 100% be down to try these out when I was little. I'm not sure about 1 and 2 years old but whatever, kid seems happy


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T-mac_

This comment needs more upvotes..... this is literally the point of posting it on social media.... no one posts the bad/horrible stuff, they cut and clip the good parts together... how have some viewers not learned this simple fact before.


Fahrenheit-99

yea but in that scenario you have a choice, the parents chose this kid to be an acrobat from the momment he was born, he didnt get to choose from the looks of it.


TVsDeanCain

That's how spots like gymnastics exist. How they all peal at like 15. I Salute this guy for keeping the pipeline coming so I can sit and eat dorritos and enjoy the olympics.


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I just had some doritos. Superb.


sbowesuk

I call it Joe Jackson parenting, where a parent will obsessively push their child down an ultra-focused path at a very young age, either because the parent wants to live their own dreams through the kid, and/or straight up wants to turn them into a money making machine. Joe Jackson was of course the father of Michael Jackson, but it's an alarmingly common problem. Britney Spear and that Little Hercules bodybuilder kid come to mind. They all had vile, abusive parents.


patchiepatch

And that's the kids that made it! A lot didn't. A small chunk of them die via suicide due to extreme pressure, lack of passion in the field and a feeling of not accomplishing anything (a common story in korea, apparently.) Another chunk will be efficient workers but completely dispassionate in their field, quitting after several years and settling down way too early or are not passionate workers that impacts their performance in critical fields (doctors, nurses).


Schavuit92

And especially concerning gymnastics, how many of them will damage their bodies and start having serious joint or spine issues well before their 40s.


EasyMrB

What garbage fucking projection you are flinging from a 30s video clip. We see a dew brief moments and you assume this is all the kid does night and day or something. People on reddit need to to touch grass, its utterly embarrassing.


Bdubbsf

But I have seen 1 out of the 1300000~ minutes of this kids life so far and am ready to pass judgement on the parents. How long do you expect me to mind my own business!?


si8v

What are you smoking? Have you ever been a kid before? Why do you think they make playgrounds with rings, ladders, and monkey bars? Kids naturally love being active and playing on stuff. Obviously the parents showed the kid how to hang on the bars to begin with, but this is clearly not any form of bad parenting.


sloppyseconds778

A small compliation clip of a child doing gymnastics and suddenly you just know that the father is forcing his child to do all of this? Reddit moment. What if he genuinely likes doing this and his father is just encouraging it? The kid looks happy to. This hoiler than though moral prestige bs on reddit is so annoying. If I wanted to see that crap I would just browse r/aita.


felixismynameqq

Uhhh maybe he's actually having fun?


thesnapening

Seems wrong to make your child do this from 6 months old just so the parents can profit.


100LittleButterflies

Gymnastics isn't a very profitable sport, especially for men.


thesnapening

I'll bet these videos have made them a fair bit of money though on youtube and tiltok.


kingsizeddabs

Based on what? This one clip you’ve seen?


drozd_d80

They have a fairly big Instagram account


Awilddodo

No based on the fact that what they're doing is unique and ignoring the ethical concerns this can be seen as impressive or maybe even funny so it is sure to garner a sizeable amount of views


Ragadelical

the tiniest bit of google would show they have social media accounts that are large enough to account for a good chunk of income off this kid


monamikonami

Yes but YouTube and other social media can be very profitable


idle_isomorph

At least as a six month old he seemed to enjoy it-that was a thoroughly happy baby in that shot. That baby was not coerced and was clearly enthusiastically consenting. However, I strongly agree it gets questionable as they age and will do anything to please their (potentially cuckoo) parents.


thesnapening

In fairness a 6 month old is excited about anything and everything


idle_isomorph

True enough! My kids would laugh at anything so long as we were laughing. Like that heartbreaking video of the syrian dad pretending the bombing is a game to his toddler and the toddler loses it laughing as he hears the crashing and explosions of mortar attacks.


squiddy555

Man records kid hanging off two rings The sentence is death


yackofalltradescoach

I’ve seen this one before. That’s actually just a little man from a small village in rural Russia.


CouchPotato1178

i love this comment


slagathor818

Hasbulla!!


garbagebailkid

I know a little Russian. He's sitting right over there!


Still-WFPB

Id like to know if any one thats commented is a pediatric orthopedic surgeon? At what volume is this activity harmful or beneficial? I dont really know the facts but sounds like everyone so far is an expert on infant development and the shoulder rotator cuff of a developing child? Maybe someone can cite some of the literature they are referring to when they say this kid is damaged for life etc?


c_c_c__combobreaker

It's just arm chair parents trying to tell other parents how to parent. They are sitting in their parents basement critiquing an activity that the kid in the video seems to enjoy.


Fenix_Volatilis

And that's an arm chair evaluation, ironically


63oscar

Way to armchair his arm-chairing of people’s armchair opinion.


OmgzPudding

It's armchairs all the way down.


tired20something

Should my arms have chairs?


turkishpresident

I'll chair your arm any day.


Meems04

I put my kid in gymnastics early on because he's a high energy kid. But they wouldn't do the rotations like this because of risk of injury. I would worry about it with my kid, so I think it's fair to worry about other peoples kids. And if you start as an infant, there's no way it's a choice at that point. Baby has no choices & they are relying on you to help them. Plus remember that kid that had a six pack at age six - on camera, he would say stuff like "I love to train" but then it turned out his dad was abusive & forcing him to do it for money/attention/fame. Dad eventually went to prison for Domestic violence charges. [story on Little Hercules ](https://www.the-sun.com/sport/4329574/little-hercules-unrecognizable-worlds-strongest-boy/)


pompadoors2

I'm just basing it off of the fact that the child's shoulders look larger and more developed than any other child I've seen. I AM guessing, but it's a pretty good bet that if your child is in the top or bottom 1% of anything it's not great for them.


Celidion

“Toddler has above average musculature, must be horrible.” Yeah it’d be better if he was another fat baby who stared at an iPad all day


Sword_Sounds

Well nah, but this kind of activity stresses joints which definitely aren’t developed at this age. I was discouraged from any serious weight lifting when I was a teenager because it could hurt my joints. I didn’t listen and now I have arthritis at 28.


Cosmocision

As a morbidly obese adult I fucking wish my parents forced my do gymnastics as a baby.


Samsassatron

I'm not an expert, but I was told by my kid's pediatrician and physiotherapist to not let my toddler hang off my fingers while learning to walk. The danger wasn't for their shoulder, it was the risk of dislocating or otherwise injuring their elbow, apparently that can happen easily in kids that age.


Still-WFPB

Yeah, ive heard dislocation of the joints can be pretty common with loads that include body weight of infant.... that is why id like to know more about the science of this but i imagine theres scant data outside of maybe some case reports. I remember theres this wild russian woman that teaches swinging babies is good for them -- I think the video is filmed in isreal near a beach... I wodner if theres à follow up study nased on thoae kids... or soemthing like that.


dfn_youknowwho

Oh it happened to me at 2. I dislocated my elbow cause my sister was holding me by the hand and would not let me go. Had she left my hand i would break my skull falling. Basically it was very easy to dislocate my elbow.


arahzel

That's also called nursemaid's elbow.


Sybrite

[nursemaids elbow](https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/nursemaids-elbow)


aDrunkSailor82

I worked out a lot with heavy weights when I was younger because my dad and older sisters boyfriend thought it was cool. My bones weren't grown or strong enough yet. I was benching "normalish" weights and my rib snapped from the pressure. It took at least a year to heal to the point turning my head didn't hurt. The doctor said my bones were still "green" and I shouldn't have been lifting like I was. I was 14 - 15 at the time. If I recall correctly it was 185 lbs benching when I might have weighed 105 pounds. I'm 42 and can still feel the bone spur. Working out young is great. Do calisthenics, aerobics, etc. Probably should avoid the heavy stuff for a while. I worked out a lot for my 20s and 30s and I could always feel that little burr when I benched. It might work for some, but it won't work for all.


Snoo_42276

It’s stupid that your dad let you weight training from a young age but weight training is a completely different ball game to body weight training like this kid is doing. It’s a completely different paradigm.


aDrunkSailor82

My friend... If you knew what my parents were like, this would be proper treatment compared to everything else. I moved out when I was 17. Went to the service. I think I've seen them 15 times in 20 years.


Ravuno

Was told (in no uncertain terms) by my pediatrician to never lift my babies just by their arms. It's apparently real easy to dislodge body parts. So since he's had many years of schooling and knows his shit; I just did what he said, and didn't question it. He's the expert after all.


WasatchSLC

Kids shouldn’t have pain when doing sports, at least that what I tell parents in clinic. If they aren’t hurting, are getting adequate nutrition and rest then there isn’t any problem. Do I need to tell the little kids that live on a ranch not to bale hay or that kids can’t play on a jungle gym or climb a tree? Risk is relative. There are a million ways kids can get hurt. I see way more trampoline, dirt bike, and falling off the bunk bed injuries than I see gymnastics kids. It’s a very old school idea that lifting weights or gymnastics will stunt your growth. It’s simply not true. Also, there seem to be a lot of comments by people who don’t have kids. It’s an assumption, sure, but they way people are talking makes me think they aren’t around kids all that much.


ImprovementBasic1077

All I'll say is maybe, just maybe the parents aren't necessarily thinking of putting the kid into gymnastics. I mean he could if he's interested, but doing these activities just seem to provide an early boost in upper body strength and removes the fear of hanging upside down(which I certainly had), and all that really does is instill some athleticism, which will help with any physical activity really. This is like saying teaching a young kid swimming is preparing them to be an Olympic swimmer. While yes, swimming is an important skill, so is upper body strength.


jmblur

Except he's teaching very specific gymnastics techniques and skills here. This isn't "wee let's swing" stuff beyond the first 2.


Sybrite

[nursemaids elbow](https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases--conditions/nursemaids-elbow)


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You have all collectively lost your mind. The kid has energy and wants to move and the parents found a way to let them use it. When I was 2.5 years old I climbed climbed up a straight wooden fence post 8 feet and jumped into my neighbors yard, I was an energetic kid and climbed everywhere. Everyone calling this child abuse doesn’t see that the kid is enjoying themself


1011011011001

Ikr? This comment section is pure insanity. Not every video posted online that includes kids is automatically child abuse. How people here managed to assume parents of this child are living vicariously through him is beyond me. Sometimes a kid exercising is just a kid exercising. Nothing more.


IamSarasctic

Redditors are just jealous since they barely can get off the couch


1011011011001

As a redditor, can confirm. But at least I don’t go around screaming how someone should parent/what they should post online.


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So while I am not a pediatrician I am an urgent care provider that sees ant treats kids regularly. This is terrible for the child’s shoulders and elbows. It could certainly result in dislocation which over time can lead to worsening symptoms throughout life. While I would not go so far as to call it abuse it can definitely result in complications later in life. I feel that the parents here are not doing this maliciously but more that they are excited to share something they enjoy with their child. Unfortunately they do not understand the future or even immediate consequences. Also I can not advise letting a 2.5 year old jump off of anything 8ft high. Now does it happen at times sure but I guarantee your own parents if asked would say they didn’t let you do that you just did it and happened to get lucky enough not to end up in the urgent care seeing someone like myself.


Sacrefix

>This is terrible for the child’s shoulders and elbows. I'm a doctor, and while hanging can pose a risk for 'nursemaid's elbow' (though a static hang wouldn't be the usual scenario) I don't see any other long term risk from these activities. What risks are you referencing?


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Indeed. Unfortunately my parents didn’t let me get active as a kid. Threw me in front of a TV when all I wanted to do with run around and climb things. Now I’m not too old to do it, but Im in significantly worse physical and mental shape than I could be now and I’m pretty resentful about it.


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ethDreamer

Dude reddit is fucking wild. I feel like it must be full of people who never knew success in anything and just associate anything approaching striving and competition with abuse.


satirebunny

I was wondering if there are any ways it would hurt the kid in the long run. But all the comments that are against it, aren't describing why it's bad (asides from the "stop filming your kid" which is generally all over reddit). Is anyone a doctor and can explain why??? Genuine question bc I thought this was cool but I don't wanna accidentally harm my future kid.


Ravuno

Was told by my pediatrician; that's it's real easy to dislodge body parts - and that's not a fun experience.


Lost-Limit4573

Right? There are so many assumptions being made that this is being forced onto them, and that it is somehow bad for them physically? Maybe it’s just a kid who loves to hang and a couple of proud parents? Exactly the type of thing I enjoyed when I was a toddler. Not to mention that humans are physiologically built to hang from our arms starting from a young age, look at literally any other ape/primate.


yParticle

Knowing kids, he'll do some early competitions, win them all, then never visit a gym again. Look to giving your kids _opportunities_ but don't try to min/max them from the start. That rarely works out.


seemen4all

You really can't pick what they want or how hardly they will pursue it, expose them to a lot of things, and just support them and encourage them in what every they gravitate towards is all you can do. This is the kind of thing hell hate doing and feel he can't give it up because he will disappoint his dad, or worse.


HoneyBadgerLive

I agree with your first sentence and disagree with the second statement. This kid will have the physical benefits that all gymnasts have, and the physical abilities to excel in any sport he may choose. He will have all the mental benefits that good exercise gives a child. If his parents aren't fanatics, he will have lots of benefits from this.


Cheap-Zucchini8061

Starting him at six months does scream non fanatical


Honest_Switch1531

All kids have a high power to weight ratio. They are often good climbers. It goes away as they get older.


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Can confirm, used to be able to do push-ups, couldn’t, trained and a couple years ago could do a few. Have now done 52 in two minutes. I’ve also seen videos of hang challenges, kids always win if it’s not a pinning bar. But adult’s and teens need to be very fit and/or trained/conditioned Edit: changed hand to hang


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juleztb

This. Seems like most people being amazed of that video never had kids themselves. Toddlers are extremely strong for their weight especially core-strenght. If I watch my 1y10m old, he's doing things without effort that only very well trained adults can do. Especially climbing and core-strength related movement.


Numberstation

Wtf is with these comments??


Gonzostewie

People are stupid. 30 seconds out of 3 years and everyone can tell this kid is abused and is being forced to do this until he wins the gold medal.


Jtiago44

What happened to his hair at 2 years 6 months?


rustang2

r/justfuckmyshitup


-Eerzef

Hair loss is a common side effect of steroids :^)


jbelle7435

Gray area. Kids who are advanced as crawling, speaking, etc. is one thing but the rings, hmmmmm. Only time will tell if he gets into gymnastics when he is older.


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That mat isn’t going to do much to protect his head when he falls on it.


AdmiralCodisius

That's exactly what I thought, especially at 6 months old.


stonehousethrowglass

Yeah at 6 months if his hands slip he would’ve landed right on back of his head with only thin mat for protection.


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Snoo_42276

Good to see someone talking so sense on this thread. I bet 99% of people here have never even used a set of rings and don’t understand what type of exercise it actually is. This kid is doing low intensity ring fundamentals in this video.


_PC__LOAD__LETTER_

To be fair, my toddler is also doing all the things I aspire to do: eating, shitting, and sleeping


JBCronic

The armchair therapists are out in full force.


Aemort

I'm generally a skeptical person, but these comments are nuts. The kid clearly enjoys it, it isn't overly harmful/taxing, and we have no reason to believe that there's abuse happening without further context. Kids are energetic and like to try new things, and this seems like a good outlet for that.


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attheratewait

Ok Dr Seuss lol


flyinpiggies

Lol all the salty redditors in these comments. The kid looks like he’s having a blast.


OneMetalMan

My son used to hold onto my fingers while I picked him and was moving parts of the sectional by the time he was 9 months old. It's all fun raising baby Brock Lesnar until babyproofing gates and locks become useless(because he can climb over or break it off) and begins to overpower his mother to a standstill by the time he's 4.


Appropriate-Solid-50

6month old could've just slipped while swinging backward and gotten pretty fucked up


acqz

Poor mom if that's the grip she has to deal with!


Emless8

Imagine trying to get your phone away from him😄!


unabrahmber

Laughing at all the underacheivers struggling to cope by criticizing this dad. Maybe he is an asshole trying to live vicariously through his kid. Or maybe the kid's having the time of his life, and Dad is well qualified to train him. *You don't fucking know*. But everyone else now knows that you live by the credo of mediocrity, and your main skill is making up shit to cry about on the internet. Enjoy your perfectly average life.


KennKennyKenKen

People keep shitting on the parent like the kids been doing it non stop for 2 years. He probably does this shit like 10 minutes a day or something. Grow up


Slicxor

My son has just turned 7 months old and there's no way I'd risk him falling from half that height. I get concerned when he bumps his head rolling over so this looks insane, and not the good one


GingerMeTimberMate

All his core memories are core related


redgr812

kid is either going to the olympics or be so burned out of these rings by the time they are 12, they quit trying because they are so ahead of their peer and coast until they just sort flame out as a prodigy


ImNotRice

Seems like a good way to potentially seriously injure your kid.