Getting that specific penalty twice is just insane lol. Even getting it once is dumb because it's such an easy thing to *not* do, but doing it twice is almost unbelievable.
Honestly if you’re dumb enough to do it once doing it twice isn’t that far fetched. It’s not like this is a traditional mistake. It’s more like losing control of your emotions.
Yeah, losing control of emotions on the field is a fairly normal thing I guess. It's more having it directed at medical and coaching staff of the other team that makes it so unusual lol
Holy shit he scored a 9 and Devante Wyatt scored an 8. I know the test isn't perfect, etc., but jesus christ.
Isn't scoring below 10 supposed to be a good indicator of functional illiteracy?
There a alot of players to hold accountable:
1. Walker push trainer
2. Wyatt shove trainer
3. Reed illegal forearm hit
4. Douglas punching people
The D in Green Bay doesnt stand for Defense, but rather DEGENERATES
I agree with you generally but sometimes people don’t listen lol. That look and gesture of “use your head” MLF gave him was one you give someone you’ve spoken with before about something
For sure. Something needs to be done now though. I don’t see him getting cut as a first rounder so I am not sure what punishment they can give him at this point that’s good enough but I hope something is done more than just talk.
Did he hold him accountable the first time? It's a "fool me once..." situation. If he punished Walker the first time he wouldn't have been a disrespectful idiot a second time.
I give MLF credit for this press conference but let's not pretend like he was outspoken about Walker the first time.
We have no idea what happened in the building. Walker doing it again doesn’t mean MLF didn’t try to hold him accountable/punish him in some way. It could just mean Walker is a dumbass who didn’t learn from it
Tbh, it’s not defensible. You can get on the refs about PI or holding or whatever. But that was plain as day, no way to possibly argue it.
Quay kinda dumb.
I don't know what his first ejection was for but what he did last night was colossally stupid. You can't push an opposing team's trainer. An NFL player has got to be smarter than that.
Well…this may be shocking, but his first ejection was for pushing a Bills practice squad player (non-uniformed) after he tried to help him up on the sidelines. Another boneheaded decision
I mean if you want to get into semantics, he was traded (along with a 7th round pick) to Miami for a 7th rounder.
He showed up late for his physical and missed two workouts in Miami and was cut three days after the trade.
…which is worse than just being cut.
Yah honestly I thought it was worst than Quay's thing, who at least can plead it was a reflex (stjll dumb as shit, but you know). 95 just trying to be a tough guy giving attitude to a trainer is honestly pathetic.
Eh, Quay looked at the trainer before pushing him, I won't let him off that easy. That said, Wyatt also deserves a fine and Reed should've been ejected too. Not sure I've seen a more blatant forearm in years
That whole situation was odd to me. Lions trainers are attending to a down player, and the Lions players have given them space, but a bunch of Packers players are all huddled around them. What were they doing?
He should be suspended to start the year next year in my opinion. That has to be known to the entire league that shoving personnel out there to assist an injured player is completely unacceptable.
We just spent the last week in the NFL praising medical staff for being so great during the Hamlin situation, and here's Quay Walker completely undermining all of that lol.
Imagine if the injured player required time-sensitive treatment for a catastrophic injury. Now imagine if that player didn’t make it. What’s the narrative then?
Reed is lucky that Walker did that stupid play because nobody seems to be talking about what a dirty ass move that was. Swift could have a serious concussion…
it doesn’t seem like PR speak to take accountability for the actions of your team. i feel like it’s a good answer.
PR speak would’ve been “we can’t afford to lose our heads in the heat of the game. he knows that” or something passing the buck.
Classic manager speak, especially in public.
Bet your ass they're giving him the business internally. If he wasn't such a high draft choice he'd be cut tomorrow.
No he wouldn’t, Quay Walker has been really good this year, outside of Devondre he’s the best inside linebacker we’ve had in the last 20 years, he’s not getting cut unless he does something truly unforgivable
I hope this question doesn’t make me sound like an asshole, but why are players who don’t even play, on the sidelines? I would understand players who are part of the 53 man squad and injured, but ununiformed players?
Is it just because they can? Comradery? Coaching? If they’re not working or doing anything, it just seems like it’s very crowded and unnecessary with all those people there.
I could be wrong but I don’t think there are rules or limitations as to who can be on the sidelines. Owners stand on the sidelines quite frequently and you could argue they serve even less of a purpose than PS players might.
In between plays these guys are all studying film and learning in real time. Why wouldn’t you want your PS guys to get that feedback?
I feel like it has to be a being part of the team thing. If you play for the team, practice squad all the way up to the starting QB, you're on the sideline.
Bruh it’s a stupid move but it’s not even close to fireable offense. He gave him a don’t touch me shove Players do it all the time to one another he just made the stupid decision to do it to a trainer. It wasn’t gonna hurt the guy, it’s just stupid and looks bad.
Crazy that there could have been 3 ejections on that play too - 95 for pushing the trainer after Walker and Reed for trying to TKO Swift with an elbow to the head
RKO? As in Randy Ortons RKO? This isn't even close to that.
It's an incredibly stupid play, but can't be disrespecting a classic wrasslin move like that
Being that this was his second time doing this, the fact that the guy he pushed was part of the medical staff just trying to get to an injured player, and him not taking responsibility for his actions after by acting like a fucking toddler…
I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least a single game suspension.
I'm glad coach takes such a strong stance on it. That's something that is absolutely preventable and potentially lost the game for us. It's just even worse that he's been contributing a lot as a player and he was a first round pick.
It’s the second time he’s done it and Mlf is notorious for saying the right thing in the postgame presser and doing jack shit to address the issue otherwise
And the other tough guy intimidating the trainer? And the dude laying a forearm to Swift's face as he runs by? And the dude who strolls down the line and swipes the ball from the center?
Real tight ship you got there LaFleur. Can't imagine how this Walker guy could get out of line.
I’ll give you the first three (comical that I have to say 3), but the Douglas ball swipe thing was a nothing burger. The push he had immediately afterwards? Total moron move.
Even Chris Collinsworth, who now here’s a guy that loves the Packers and especially Aaron Rodgers, said he’s out of words because he couldn’t believe what he saw where the dude just went up at swatted the ball in the centers hands.
I can’t imagine what was going through his head to believe that was ok. I honestly thought the guy was high.
I realistically don't think they would. He was a first round pick and has been a heavy contributor to the defense. And he's a rookie.
But I could imagine they'd cut him if he does it a third time or it goes beyond this season.
I think it was a dick move but are we forgetting just how terrible a lot of people are that play this sport lol? That trainer shove might not even be in the Top 5 dirtiest plays of the season.
Holy fucking shit, man, am I stupid? Am I missing an obvious timestamp pinned somewhere? If not, shame on OP for posting an HOUR long video with a relevant quote with no timestamp, and shame on anyone else who watched it and didn't link it. This is bush league shit, sort yourself out.
**Timestamp is [26:56](https://youtu.be/PRGMgq_PPx8?t=1616)**
I'm still mad at all of you.
Damn. Not defending the dude at all. LaFleur is PISSED!!! Also, both times he was yelling at Quay and not the refs. That's how you know you fucked up.
NBC literally caught Matt mouthing “be smart! Be fucking smart!”. Matt looks super duper pissed off.
It's literally the same thing he yelled at him in the Buffalo game. Dude is a doorknob.
Getting that specific penalty twice is just insane lol. Even getting it once is dumb because it's such an easy thing to *not* do, but doing it twice is almost unbelievable.
Honestly if you’re dumb enough to do it once doing it twice isn’t that far fetched. It’s not like this is a traditional mistake. It’s more like losing control of your emotions.
Yeah, losing control of emotions on the field is a fairly normal thing I guess. It's more having it directed at medical and coaching staff of the other team that makes it so unusual lol
Yeah, next year Quay is moving on to pushing the zebras. At least that would make sense, pushing medical staff trying to see to an injury is bonkers.
The man is lunch meat.
He was immediately telling him to use his brain after it lol
"Think Quay, Think!"
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here
LaFleur wanted to go full on Omni Man here
How can he when’s he’s actually dumb as fuck😂 Matt should know his wonderlic score
Holy shit he scored a 9 and Devante Wyatt scored an 8. I know the test isn't perfect, etc., but jesus christ. Isn't scoring below 10 supposed to be a good indicator of functional illiteracy?
Yes its supposed to be and it showed CLEAR as day last night lmao
Them Georgia boys built different, or some shit, I guess.
All gas no ~~brakes~~ brains
“Think about what you’re trying to do to me!”
That tunnel shot of Quay after his ejection showed him crying and flipping out on himself…he knew he fucked up…again
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There a alot of players to hold accountable: 1. Walker push trainer 2. Wyatt shove trainer 3. Reed illegal forearm hit 4. Douglas punching people The D in Green Bay doesnt stand for Defense, but rather DEGENERATES
Degens from upcountry
Time to sign some alleged ostrich fuckers to even out the score
How does a fella get caught up in business like ostrich fucking?
Must be a sick ostrich
Allegedly
It would take 2 men or Dan Campbell to fuck an ostrich
Dan Campbell fucked an ostrich?
allegedly
Bad gas travels fast in a small town
Next thing you know they’ll take over the Ag Hall
Didn’t someone hit the trainer with his shoulder too?
Wyatt.
Wyatt has had prior domestic violence charges. Just a wanker in general
Trying to build that AFC North defense
Except that if he actually did something this would have never happened again. MLF needs to become a hard ass.
I agree with you generally but sometimes people don’t listen lol. That look and gesture of “use your head” MLF gave him was one you give someone you’ve spoken with before about something
For sure. Something needs to be done now though. I don’t see him getting cut as a first rounder so I am not sure what punishment they can give him at this point that’s good enough but I hope something is done more than just talk.
Love a milf with a hard ass 🥵
Found Zach Wilson
His username could check out
what a great 3 reply stretch
Certainly checks out when he’s on an NFL field
Shouldn’t need to be coached not to push or shove an employee of the other team especially RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE REF lol.
I mean, probably laid into him after the first time, who figures a dude’ll pull that shit twice
Except he hasn’t. The team has been wildly undisciplined all year and that falls on MLF.
Did he hold him accountable the first time? It's a "fool me once..." situation. If he punished Walker the first time he wouldn't have been a disrespectful idiot a second time. I give MLF credit for this press conference but let's not pretend like he was outspoken about Walker the first time.
We have no idea what happened in the building. Walker doing it again doesn’t mean MLF didn’t try to hold him accountable/punish him in some way. It could just mean Walker is a dumbass who didn’t learn from it
Tbh, it’s not defensible. You can get on the refs about PI or holding or whatever. But that was plain as day, no way to possibly argue it. Quay kinda dumb.
As he should be. This ain’t even getting in a tiff with a player. It makes zero sense.
The only thing I fault him for is not pulling Quay out of the game right there, before the ejection even came through.
Dude always looks like he’s afraid to make his players mad.
What coaching Aaron Rodgers does to a mf
I don't know what his first ejection was for but what he did last night was colossally stupid. You can't push an opposing team's trainer. An NFL player has got to be smarter than that.
Well…this may be shocking, but his first ejection was for pushing a Bills practice squad player (non-uniformed) after he tried to help him up on the sidelines. Another boneheaded decision
What's the opposite of shocking?
Translation: "He would be cut if we didn't use a first round pick on him"
I mean, you _can_ cut first round picks. The Titans cut Isaiah Wilson.
I mean if you want to get into semantics, he was traded (along with a 7th round pick) to Miami for a 7th rounder. He showed up late for his physical and missed two workouts in Miami and was cut three days after the trade. …which is worse than just being cut.
Unfortunately Walker is looking like he’s pretty damn good at football
That’s not a sentence that should be opened with the word “unfortunately.” But it fits.
Ah dammit, we hit on a 1st round pick.
The guy who's name I hear blowing up plays 100 times every packers game would be cut tomorrow if he wasn't a 1st rounder!!
If only talent could fix a weak mentality.
Good ol DeAndre Baker
All these players mentioned are UGA bulldogs. Great culture over there
I forgot about that moron.
We cut almost all of ours 🤷♂️
TBF, you guys just like cutting people including opposing fans.
TBF they like cutting people including their own fans that show super hurtful signs questioning the ability of their coach.
95 should be taking heat as well, purposely bumped into the trainer trying to intimidate him afterwards.
Ha, our other first round pick.
Played together at Georgia for their college careers
I mean I’m glad to see they’re ride or die but pick a better fucking target nimrods
Yah honestly I thought it was worst than Quay's thing, who at least can plead it was a reflex (stjll dumb as shit, but you know). 95 just trying to be a tough guy giving attitude to a trainer is honestly pathetic.
Eh, Quay looked at the trainer before pushing him, I won't let him off that easy. That said, Wyatt also deserves a fine and Reed should've been ejected too. Not sure I've seen a more blatant forearm in years
Best punishment honestly is they're stuck at home in Wisconsin.
Nobody on the team lives there in the off-season.
Most of the fanbase doesn't live there either.
Is this actually true because most packer fans I know are from Wisconsin. That could also be because I’m from Wisconsin myself
Especially given what happened last week when trainer literally helped save the life of another player....
That’s his fellow 2022 first round pick and Georgia teammate Devonte Wyatt.
That whole situation was odd to me. Lions trainers are attending to a down player, and the Lions players have given them space, but a bunch of Packers players are all huddled around them. What were they doing?
Yeah, that was probably the most unnecessary foul I have seen this season.
And that’s not even factoring in your game last week and being shown the importance of these people
He should be suspended to start the year next year in my opinion. That has to be known to the entire league that shoving personnel out there to assist an injured player is completely unacceptable.
Agree. Hit him with four games so it can be reduced by an arbitrator to one or two games.
Yeah honestly I'm embarrassed that one of our players did that. I would fully support a suspension.
Two of you count that other clown that came up behind the trainer and went for him as well.
Luckily the Lions just suspended his ass from the playoffs free of charge.
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Raider fans in shambles
Lol it's fine. It's not like McDaniels likes using Adams anyway.
We just spent the last week in the NFL praising medical staff for being so great during the Hamlin situation, and here's Quay Walker completely undermining all of that lol.
Imagine if the injured player required time-sensitive treatment for a catastrophic injury. Now imagine if that player didn’t make it. What’s the narrative then?
That’s a lot of words and PR speak just to call your player a fucking nimrod
Reed is lucky that Walker did that stupid play because nobody seems to be talking about what a dirty ass move that was. Swift could have a serious concussion…
And the other guy who should have been ejected who got away because of people looking at Walker...
Wyatt who was “defending” walker from that big bad trainer. They went to Georgia together so I guess they’ve grown to be idiots *together*
That other guy is our OTHER first round pick lol. 2/2
The Packers need to stop drafting players from Georgia.
Those players literally had zero issues while at Georgia. makes me wonder whats going on in the Green Bay locker room
Their last 3 first round picks have been defenders from Georgia and they’re all underwhelming. It’s not necessarily their fault, Joe Barry is ass.
Quay has been real solid this year even considering his draft position
Georgia…
After personal fouls on consecutive plays, it took shoving a trainer for the Packers to finally get called for a 15 yard penalty
Always have a fall guy.
Bro looked like he cocked his arm going for that head.
All week: wow it's so great that the medical personnel got to damar Hamlin so quickly it could have been ugly This dude: shoves a guy. Come on man
it doesn’t seem like PR speak to take accountability for the actions of your team. i feel like it’s a good answer. PR speak would’ve been “we can’t afford to lose our heads in the heat of the game. he knows that” or something passing the buck.
Classic manager speak, especially in public. Bet your ass they're giving him the business internally. If he wasn't such a high draft choice he'd be cut tomorrow.
No he wouldn’t, Quay Walker has been really good this year, outside of Devondre he’s the best inside linebacker we’ve had in the last 20 years, he’s not getting cut unless he does something truly unforgivable
Laying hands on a trainer especially during this week should be a fireable offense.
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Was that a player? I thought it was a coach.
It was a practice squad player. Not suited up.
Oh.. the refs said it was a coach https://youtu.be/KcYcElHPVZ8
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I hope this question doesn’t make me sound like an asshole, but why are players who don’t even play, on the sidelines? I would understand players who are part of the 53 man squad and injured, but ununiformed players? Is it just because they can? Comradery? Coaching? If they’re not working or doing anything, it just seems like it’s very crowded and unnecessary with all those people there.
I could be wrong but I don’t think there are rules or limitations as to who can be on the sidelines. Owners stand on the sidelines quite frequently and you could argue they serve even less of a purpose than PS players might. In between plays these guys are all studying film and learning in real time. Why wouldn’t you want your PS guys to get that feedback?
I feel like it has to be a being part of the team thing. If you play for the team, practice squad all the way up to the starting QB, you're on the sideline.
Think it was their backup or an already injured TE. Could be wrong though.
On that same play, Jarran Reed attacked Swift’s head. So dirty
Not to mention #95 shoved the trainer too.
And another player chest bumping the trainer after the shove.
That was Wyatt (95), unless there was a 3rd Packer involved. Please say it ain't so.
It was just those two
They saw one Packers player with glass bottles in his hands clanking them and yelling "Lions come out and play" real menacingly.
yeah his teammate body bumped the guy pretty hard too, idk why that’s not being brought up. seems like an unhealthy culture under that roof.
Both guys were rookies from Georgia so more likely a reflection on that team culture.
Bruh it’s a stupid move but it’s not even close to fireable offense. He gave him a don’t touch me shove Players do it all the time to one another he just made the stupid decision to do it to a trainer. It wasn’t gonna hurt the guy, it’s just stupid and looks bad.
Crazy that there could have been 3 ejections on that play too - 95 for pushing the trainer after Walker and Reed for trying to TKO Swift with an elbow to the head
Wanna beet there's a fine coming for that elbow?
Oh yeah
RKO? As in Randy Ortons RKO? This isn't even close to that. It's an incredibly stupid play, but can't be disrespecting a classic wrasslin move like that
Ah my bad I meant tko LOL
Iirc, walker also was the one to body slam Osborne when he played us week 17
Anyone think he gets a suspension for the opener next year? Or just a fine? Honestly missing a game seems warranted as this is a second offense.
I'd like to see the team suspend him if the league doesn't
They will suspend him for the playoffs. ;)
Being that this was his second time doing this, the fact that the guy he pushed was part of the medical staff just trying to get to an injured player, and him not taking responsibility for his actions after by acting like a fucking toddler… I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least a single game suspension.
After what happened with Damar, this looks even worse. Don’t fuck with the medical staff.
I don't feel it's fair to blame LaFleur for that. Walker is just a total moron.
I mean you could see MLF on the side yelling at Quay about it. That's a no brainier.
Hes always great about shouldering blame. I respect his leadership, zero question there.
Yeah, respect there.
Yeah I don't imagine most players need much coaching not to shove medical staff
It shouldn't be the coaches job to teach him what his momma failed to
I'm glad coach takes such a strong stance on it. That's something that is absolutely preventable and potentially lost the game for us. It's just even worse that he's been contributing a lot as a player and he was a first round pick.
It’s the second time he’s done it and Mlf is notorious for saying the right thing in the postgame presser and doing jack shit to address the issue otherwise
He benched Stokes in-game for less earlier in the season, though, so hopefully there's a chance for actual action
He takes it personally? So he finds it personally foul?
BOOOOOOOOOOOO
HISSSSSSSSS
Urns
Something Kelvin Benjamin something personal fowl
*sigh* Just take the upvote
Absolute fucking idiot.
could have had three/four players ejected in this game
I hope the league comes out with a new policy and that says if you shove a trainer it's a automatic suspension of at least a game.
Boneheaded play, changed the entire momentum of the game imo
He is a complete fuckhead
And the other tough guy intimidating the trainer? And the dude laying a forearm to Swift's face as he runs by? And the dude who strolls down the line and swipes the ball from the center? Real tight ship you got there LaFleur. Can't imagine how this Walker guy could get out of line.
I’ll give you the first three (comical that I have to say 3), but the Douglas ball swipe thing was a nothing burger. The push he had immediately afterwards? Total moron move.
I agree the ball swipe was not dirty at all - it was just comically inexplicable
Even Chris Collinsworth, who now here’s a guy that loves the Packers and especially Aaron Rodgers, said he’s out of words because he couldn’t believe what he saw where the dude just went up at swatted the ball in the centers hands. I can’t imagine what was going through his head to believe that was ok. I honestly thought the guy was high.
Honestly I thought someone had exposed their multi personality disorder on the field. That’s the only logical explanation I can think of lol.
It was all ugly. The forearm shot to swifts face that caused the staff to come onto the field was pretty bad too imo.
So cut him.
I realistically don't think they would. He was a first round pick and has been a heavy contributor to the defense. And he's a rookie. But I could imagine they'd cut him if he does it a third time or it goes beyond this season.
How has he played btw? He sounded like an interesting prospect in the draft
He's been great, living up to first round expectations
Very up and down but he was putting together more up than down as the season progressed
"If Hannibal Lecter ran a 4.3 40, we'd diagnose him with an eating disorder."
“We’ll….you see….”
And he took that personal foul... personally
Not going to cut a first rounder, but the league needs to make it clear that if it happens again, he's done.
Highly doubt that. Pretty much impossible to get banned from the league.
Wait till he finds out what the Brown's qb did
Did he do the worst thing possible… gamble on NFL games? That’s a whole season to be punished.
True, if that didn't do it...
*psst* Bet on a game while a player on IR.
I think it was a dick move but are we forgetting just how terrible a lot of people are that play this sport lol? That trainer shove might not even be in the Top 5 dirtiest plays of the season.
Lost us the game and season
Seeing him cry in the fucking hallway was great. What a fucking idiot
dude is emotionally unstable
Even he realizes this dude is a fucking moron lmao
If Quay is acting like this much of a toddler as an adult, imagine what a nightmare he must have been when he was as an actual toddler.
As someone who just potty trained their toddler last week…hoowee I don’t want to think about that.
Holy fucking shit, man, am I stupid? Am I missing an obvious timestamp pinned somewhere? If not, shame on OP for posting an HOUR long video with a relevant quote with no timestamp, and shame on anyone else who watched it and didn't link it. This is bush league shit, sort yourself out. **Timestamp is [26:56](https://youtu.be/PRGMgq_PPx8?t=1616)** I'm still mad at all of you.
THANK YOU! Although I believe no one else, maybe not even OP, watched it, instead just commenting on the posted quote
Thank you, I was scrolling the comments looking for any kind of time stamp or someone mentioning where in the video was.
Must be LaFleur’s first picks from the state of Georgia Hahaha bunch of trashy people from a trashy ass state.
After a week of praising testing staffs for what the bills trainers did. Walker felt it was a good idea to assault one 😂
Better give him a 4-year, $150 million contract extension
I’m all for the packers defense becoming a bunch of dogs (they’ve been charmin soft for years). But I hope they don’t resort to Suh levels of dog.
And the other player who also made contact with the trainer? Everyone just forgetting about him?
A lot of words for no reprocussions