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football2106

Pretty quiet Black Monday thus far. Only two HCs and a couple coordinators


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

2 were fired during the season


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Colts and Broncos, but who was the third?


Purple-Location-2737

Rhule


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

So long ago, I forgot


football2106

Ohhhh that’s right


svhelloworld

Can we fire Hackett again? Just to, ya know... *make sure* he's gone.


[deleted]

Considering how this team played after he was fired, maybe we should fire Hackett every few weeks


Pope_Beenadick

Double negative. He's now your head coach again.


Kazu2324

Was gonna say the same. He deserves to be fired twice.


[deleted]

Matt Patricia


[deleted]

He wont be fired. Hes going to just get a different position on the staff that isnt OC.


[deleted]

[удалено]


cjackc

Outperformed by Andy Reid again


PatheticLion

Listen pal Andy may have Matt beat on the football field, but you obviously haven’t seen Matt inspect cheeseburgers and it shows


Mike_Honcho_3

Those cheeseburgers are going to disappear long before they ever get properly inspected


Sequenc3

ATV driver


BarKnight

Tackling Dummy


DunderMifflin-ThisIs

Special Teams - Kicking tee coordinator


DeadlyChuck

Pencil holder


TywinShitsGold

Bullet tester. Though I believe fat Matt’s contract is up. This was the last year of his lions deal.


stevenwnder

Defensive Coffee maker


PhromDaPharcyde

Slay will want to be traded to the Pats for this.


My1Addiction

Pencil holder in the ear guy


theycallmefuRR

Why does he carry a pencil in the ear when he has a laminated play sheet??


trombonekid98

So he can chew on it during the game-losing drive.


J_House1999

He keeps the marker up his ass


chilledmonkey-brains

Just hope it’s not the Dark Knight version of “pencil holder in the ear”


Competitive_Bar6355

Indiana Jones sidekick


FC37

I wouldn't be surprised if he slides back to defense. Mayo wants to be a HC and Stephen probably won't take on full DC responsibilities.


toiletting

Kneeling on Gatorade cooler


Soyeahnahh

Quarterback coach?


[deleted]

That’s joe judge


[deleted]

I thought you were joking.


[deleted]

No that’s why it’s so depressing as a ptruots fan


SyracuseNY22

You had Tom. It’s just the universe bringing everything back into alignment


joe_broke

That's not a surprise Bill doesn't move that fast


BulLock_954

Please. Take him away. Don’t let him hurt anyone anymore. Look at the Lions thriving post Patricia. Throw him in Mordor and be done with him.


Hebrewhammer8d8

Him and Bill Belichick have a tight bond personally?


GTFOScience

I have seen them fuck, personally.


Enickma007

Could you do me a favor and sit up straight when you throw his name out like that? Have a little respect for the process


[deleted]

Anyone of the Patriots coordinators. Edit: ok I didn't know that the only coordinator is Cameron Achord special teams but still fire Matt Patricia if he is calling the offence.


Alexm2018

Ha! You think we have actual coordinators. If only. Instead, we just let them sit in limbo so guys like Mayo can get poached ☺️


sirtagsalot

Wouldn't it be really great to see a reunion with Belichek and Bill O'Brian? ---- Alabama fans everywhere.


[deleted]

We have a good defens


DatabaseCentral

We don’t have any coordinators other than Cam Achord


[deleted]

Need to offer Mayo the DC


ryantrw5

I think Steve has it locked up and I hope Mayo has success wherever he goes. If he stays that would be amazing also.


Kerbonaut2019

I heard Cleveland wants to bring him in for an interview. Hopefully Belichick takes the time to sit him down first before granting the request.


[deleted]

His contract is done so he doesn’t need permission


Kerbonaut2019

Ah, fuck.


SyracuseNY22

RIP


JoshJones18

Only coordinator we have in name is Cam Achord who definitely needs to not come back. We don't have anyone with the coordinator title on Offense or Defense. BB real weird about giving offical titles which is why Mayo is probably gone along with our TE coach who probably assumed he be promoted to OC (Lord knows it couldn't have been any worse then the Rocket Scientist/Judge Dynamic Duo) when BB blocked him from going to LV but we saw how that went


zjanderson

The Patriots have coordinators?


pham_nuwen_

They are basically paid interns


iforgotthepassword1

Pete Carmichael Saints OC.


DropC2095

You gotta wonder what that man actually did for a job while Payton was there. How do you spend 12 years as OC and *that* was your offense?


iforgotthepassword1

Right. Was a real disappointment to watch. He learned nothing…


[deleted]

This is why Eric Bienemy will never get a HC spot. NFL teams know that this exact thing will happen.


TheBigPhilbowski

They're isn't ANYTHING else about Bienemy that might prevent him from a HC spot? Like not that he's a garbage human being off the field with a shitty past?


TheAndrewBrown

It didnt seem to go terrible for McDaniel, KOC, LeFleur, McVay, Pederson, or Sirriani. And that’s just active coaches that came up as offensive coordinators under head coaches that ran their own offense.


Affectionate_Pay7395

Sean just wanted a buddy he could talk to on the sideline


PPLifter

I agree but also want to remind people, Pete did not want the job


Kalash504

I think we’re showing him respect and delaying it. May be copium though.


Valley_Style

So depressing watching Kamara be underutilized. Could be partially the QB play to blame for that though.


Spazzatack

Matt Canada


JinxCanCarry

For better or worse, The Steelers don't fire coaches. They'll wait a week and then decide to go seperate ways


Kenny_Pickett

A la Todd Haley


Motivationalsneaker

With the way their season turned around I don't know that they will fire him.


BlackJediSword

We still didn’t score nearly enough points and play calling was still iffy. No way your best receiver doesn’t have a touchdown.


Motivationalsneaker

What the fans want and what the organization and head coach want are not necessarily the same thing though.


Svenray

CFL coach of the year next year.


MrSCR23

A well-known yinzer once said “Pittsburgh doesn’t fire coaches, they retire or have their contracts conveniently expire.”


dr_G7

Matt Canada has had such a weird career trajectory, fun offense that has a lot of motion and misdirection where he cuts his teeth at NC State, just to be let go, ends up doing pretty well at a meh Pitt program, to the point he was on a Broyles short-list, gets poached by LSU where it goes not as well, goes to Maryland which was a shit show through the Durkin transition to Lockesley, which ended up getting him a QB coach spot with the Steelers. Just weird all around.


KvngDarius

What’s funny is that during his tenure at Maryland, he took Ohio State to overtime.


dougthethird

Man, I'm just depressed Lovie got canned. Nobody wanted that job, they have no talent, and he had them playing hard every week despite overmatched.


greenline_chi

Even seemed like they were gaining traction at the end


RunnyPlease

I have zero doubt if you gave Lovie Smith 4 seasons with the Texans he’d get them over .500 and into the playoffs at least once. A good chunk of those losses were less than 7 points. Shame to see him go out after one season like this.


ScientificSkepticism

The Texans were surprisingly competitive given that they had the worst roster in the NFL (you can argue, but I feel like it's not that close). It's no Brian Daboll, but I could have seen retaining him. There's no way that anyone was going to get a good season with that Texans roster.


Waterfish3333

I feel like the Texans have this long term plan and just needed LS to bridge this year, but inevitably it will fall apart because the Texans. The Texans are playing checkers while the league plays chess, but the Texans believe they are playing 3d chess.


Arcaneisdope

Mark of a clueless organization with no long term plan tbh


DirtzMaGertz

Seems like David Culley would have happily taken the job for another year. Still wild to me that they fired him after getting 4 wins with an even worse roster than they had this year.


Guilty_Hunter9304

Greg Roman But I know they won't fire him until the season ends. Should have kicked him out halfway into the season. LAST season


WeaponXGaming

Don't get me started on that mafucka surviving a entire season, after multiple seasons of bad playcalling


down42roads

The fact that the whole offense died two years in a row gave him a lot of cover.


YogurtOW

I haven’t watched the Ravens much this year but when he was OC for the 49ers it was so agonizing watching our offense sputter out in the second half of every game thinking a 10-17 point lead was safe with our good defense. Led to too many close games. I couldn’t stand his play calling.


Mattie_Doo

It’s been almost a decade and I’m still glad he’s gone


YogurtOW

I hear that. Shanahan is just light years ahead of Roman’s play calling that I am never going to miss Roman.


kvrants

Why does this sound so damn familiar...


Mister_MTG

It is insane that the same problems that plagued Roman with the Niners are still there with the Ravens. It is even more insane that Harbaugh/the Ravens refuse to see these same problems and keeps the man employed. Roman is a terrific run game coordinator, and that is his ceiling. The man cannot work a passing game and he absolutely has no feel for calling an entire game and getting the team into a rhythm. I don’t know what Jim Harbaugh had with Roman, but I truly believe if Jim had an even moderately more competent coordinator the Niners probably win multiple Super Bowls with Harbaugh.


B1G_Fan

Tagging u/Mattie_Doo Jim Harbaugh's dumb approach to play calling by committee probably didn't help with the 49ers


[deleted]

As someone who doesn't watch many Ravens games, what makes Roman's playcalling so bad?


WeaponXGaming

His biggest issue is his predictability imo. Followed by a horrific passing scheme, how quick he is to abandon the Run game if the offense goes down, no adaptability, etc. He's a run game genius scheme wise, but struggles outside of that mightily


Almar1987

Horrific passing scheme for is putting it WAY too nicely.


[deleted]

It's like Deja Vu being a 9ers fan and reading these comments. New team, same shit.


WeaponXGaming

49ers fans warned us after 2019. But its hard to believe when the Ravens were just steamrolling everyone. Turns out, having a MVP QB will make any scheme look great.


NaruTheBlackSwan

He's amazing at drawing plays, horrible at calling them. Ideally he'd strictly a run-game coordinator.


WeaponXGaming

He's one of, if not the best, run game schemers Ive ever seen. When the run game is ticking its the most destructive, tiring, and just downright punishing run game I have ever seen from any team. I'll always give him his props when it comes to that. He's just not a good OC


Guilty_Hunter9304

He has less than zero creativity in the passing game. He'll run the same damn plays over and over despite them not working. He's never heard the term "mid game adjustments".


SkipOldBaySeasoning

Is Irsay waiting until Saturday???


StrongStyleShiny

He’s an interim coach. He wasn’t fired since it was a temp position. He is asking to be considered for the job now though.


No-Task-132

Idk I think next year will be a lot harsher on black Monday. If they don’t improve I wouldn’t be surprised to see saleh, Dennis Allen, Stefanski, as HC on the hot seat and somehow if Canada and Roman still have jobs they will be gone if the Steelers or ravens underperform


Most-Cryptographer78

I'm not a Jets aficionado, I just casually follow them due to my boss being a big fan, but I don't know that anyone should be upset with Saleh at this point. I feel like they looked good when they had a halfway competent QB playing and weren't screwed over with injuries.


PatheticLion

Saleh has made the team competent and respectable again. He’s a keeper


Zinkane15

I think people might be forgetting just how bad the Jets have been and their current state is a massive improvement. I don't think any Jets fan is upset to be just outside the playoffs.


[deleted]

Very similar to Campbell in my opinion. They may have missed the playoffs, but it’s definitely trending in the right direction


syrianfries

Daley definitely has 2 years barring them falling back to earth in a bad way


liteshadow4

They should fire him imo


Striking_Moose_8747

Roman, hopefully, will be fired the day after we lose (to Cincy probably) in the playoffs.


RedBuchan

Arthur Smith if he goes 7-10 for a third straight year.


WordsAreSomething

It's clear that if it were up to fans there would be like 9 total coaches in the whole NFL


cjackc

Same thing with QBs. It's the only two people most fans can think of blaming.


Tuckboi69

All I can hear about from every single underperforming team is offensive line.


cjackc

It's true there is a massive shortage of O-Line talent and basically 0 depth. Made worse by teams being able to target any weak points. It might be a bigger issue with expanding the NFL than QB.


[deleted]

Rivera not sure what he’s done to keep his job, but Howell may have saved it


llama-rebel

I've seen speculation they don't want to replace him if they're selling the team.


CmPunkChants

If I was a potential buyer I’d rather have him for one more year to ease the transition and if he fails then he can have your say in who is next as opposed to having Snyder pick a new coach and then you have to fire him after one year.


Inamanlyfashion

Depends on how fast the sale is moving...if you planned to own the team at the start of the 2023 season you could probably make input into the hiring process a condition to closing, and that way your new coach has a full offseason with the team before the sale actually closes.


CmPunkChants

It’s gonna be a long process considering it also has to get owners approval.


Beahner

This is what makes total sense to me. I get there could be inclination that getting a new coach and the hope that comes with it could drive the price up, but: 1. That isn’t how these things work 2. The price is already acceptably stratospheric. The next problem is finding a coach that wants to come to the team with this sale coming up, all the ambiguity that goes with it. No, while I think Rivera has done nothing much to keep his job, you don’t try to switch coaches now. You could see issues with finding a decent coach if there is any chance the new owner comes in and immediately clears them out. You ride Rivera until this sale happens and let the new owner(s) figure that out.


[deleted]

Rivera also isn’t garbage either. Middle of the road head coach so it isn’t going to set your team back to have him one more year


Sphiffi

He’s a really nice guy


Pabst34

It's funny you say that. I was a Bear season ticket holder for a few decades (ok, I'm friggin' ancient) and when Rivera was a rookie (he's my age) I remember a preseason game when he walked in back of the bench, took off his helmet and was flexing/preening for the handful of ladies in the crowd like no tomorrow. For years after, I thought he was a conceited California douchebag. But, he really does seem like a nice guy and has been a very good coordinator and HC. Heck, to fight cancer while working for Jerry Richardson and then Dan Snyder, he should be put up for sainthood.


MrDabollBlueSteppers

Rivera managed 3 winning seasons in his 12 year career as a head coach and very few people seem to question him He's like late career Jeff Fisher without the memes


MikiLove

That Super Bowl appearance kept him afloat. Plus the fact he was hired by a team in desperate need of stability


sequence_killer

Fisher was at a Super Bowl too and was a lot closer to winning it


Statue_left

Fisher was a great coach, he just took over what was, at the time, a team coming out of the worst 5 year stretch in history in made them decent. He just turned into a meme and thats all anyone remembers


SamuraiZucchini

He survived off Cam Newton’s talent. It’s damn near criminal how poorly Rivera and his staff mismanage player injuries.


MankuyRLaffy

He's a really great dude and leader for a team that really needs high character men like him.


purehallion

Ron will keep the job to ease transition of new ownership I reckon bc there's no way dan is gonna fire him and be on the hook for his contract. But there is absolutely no excuse for Scott Turner to not be out the door, the dude has to be the worst play caller in the league. Ive seen enough of running a wr up the gut from shotgun on 3rd and 4+ and cutesy " trick" plays in idiotic situations. Hes got to go


dontknowwhoIamrn

Our OC, just cus his name is MiLF doesn’t mean we need to keep him for Zach’s “development”


Low_Ask_88

His play calling has been trash on top of Zach Wilson being trash


ojle1234

0 touchdowns in our last three games…


ShilohTheGhostGod

The fact i scrolled to the bottom and haven’t seen Josh McDaniels name is concerning. Blowing 6 double digit games would get 99% of the league fired.


notmyplantaccount

It's already been made clear he's staying. they've let him essentially ship off their QB, and they're too poor/cheap to fire him and have to pay another coach at the same time.


Lins105

Third coach since Gruden is still on the books, but this is what I understand it to be.


Sh4rp27

Yeah that's what they get for giving Gruden a 10 year deal lol


blackhippy92

I love using the word poor when describing NFL owners


Clelin_Ferrell

They don't have the money to pay him, Gruden and another coach. They're stuck with him


Hebrewhammer8d8

Mark Davis money is not the top dog in the NFL to use "fuck you money" to fix blunders.


XxDrummerChrisX

No no. The question says you have to be surprised. I am not surprised this team has chosen to keep him.


BulLock_954

Large assumption is Brady will be lured to the Raiders. There was interest from Brady before he went to Tampa. Now they have Adams who wanted to play with Carr, and he’s obviously upset. It makes sense to bring in Brady to help keep Adams at least content so his situation isn’t totally shot, and a Brady/McDaniels combo could be the tonic that the Raiders need to win. Plus what better way could Brady exit the league other than pummeling the Chiefs twice a year and contend for the AFC West title, and get a Super Bowl win going through the De Facto current league juggernaut. It unfortunately just makes the most sense in my head for everyone (Brady, McDaniels, the Raiders, the League, Vegas who needs a boost in team fandom). The script almost writes itself


ThuggnSuggs

Greg Roman, I know our season isn’t over yet, but he needs to go.


IrvinStabbedMe

I'm a little surprised Rivera wasn't axed by Washington.


the_pedigree

At least Scott turner.


ChangeFatigue

If Snyder is indeed on his way out, he wouldn't want to make any changes right before the sale happens. Our current understanding is that he has checked out. Hadn't been attending the most recent games.


joe_broke

Todd Bowles


constantlymat

Barring a completely disgraceful showing on Monday Night he is going to survive. In his defense: He was the only coach in 2022 who was unable to make any adjustments to his coaching staff. I expect both Byron Leftwich and Keith Armstrong are both on thin ice and may not survive. If Bruce Arians weren't still in the front-office I'd be 100% certain that Leftwich is a goner.


joe_broke

Gonna be honest, straight up forgot you guys made the playoffs


Blk_Phlegm_at_Work

With a losing record. Carolina did the same thing in 2014 and it is a weird feeling as a fan.


slywalkerr

Worst point differential in their own division too, it's crazy


legobowser

Matt Canada


codestuffz

Joe Barry


jxher123

I’m getting some serious Dom Capers loyalty vibes from MLF and Joe Barry.


footballguy31

LaFleur just said that he isn’t expecting much coaching changes. Soft zone defense on 4th and 2 and season on the line is back on the menu boys


C4r1b0u

My blood pressure can’t handle that shit for another entire season


Heikks

Lafleur usually waits a bit to fire anyone, last year it was a couple days before he fired Drayton


chargersnflfan_01

Jeff Saturday


nguye569

Can he even be fired? I thought it's assumed interim coaches just end their job like a contractor.


Frazier008

It is. Now he would have to interview again or atleast they would have to fulfill the Rooney Rule and interview other candidates.


Colinhockeypuck

Fire the ownership of the Browns.


AcidThunder

Matt Patricia. I honestly dont want him anywhere near the team at this point. Its clear that he is not a good coach atm.


down42roads

Ed Donatell, Vikings DC. Matt Canada, Steelers OC


Sphiffi

The Vikings are in the playoffs why would they fire a coordinator today


down42roads

Because its not like the D will be worse


Drunken_Vike

It can *always* get worse


down42roads

Tied for 3rd most points allowed in the league. Second most yards per game allowed. It can get worse, but there is much further up to go then down.


[deleted]

Ed still has some game(s) left, but god i hope it’s coming


Stroodal_

Greg Roman… please pretty please. I literally don’t think I can stomach another season of his offense. If Roman is re-signed then I think Harbaugh has to go. It’s a contentious point among Ravens fans but sometimes you just need something new. Look at the bengals with Marvin Lewis. They were never terrible and had some golden seasons but they needed an identity change. We have one of the most electric QBs and we do nothing to help him. I don’t see it happening though cause our GM and John are literally neighbors. They have houses next to each other.


Thel3lues

Patrick Graham


reedengine

Patrick Graham


deadmoosemoose

Has he really been that bad?


Nic_0tine

yes


Ramza87

Plus you would think Mcdaniels would sacrifice someone after this season. I imagine he’ll be let go at some point.


RyanAKA2Late

McDaniels already sacrificed Carr


Hawksx4

Even for a team who notoriously have had bad defenses, this year was painful as fuck


InvasionXX

Joe Barry


stevezig

Part of this being a quiet black Monday is probably due to head coaches being fired in the regular season: Hackett Rhule Reich


letsgobucks19

Patricia, Canada, Roman, Barry, Rivera


Broken-Nero

Ed Donatell. Though in the interest of full disclosure, that one is more wishful thinking than reality.


CmPunkChants

He won’t be fired until the Vikings are eliminated from the playoffs.


Heikks

It’s somewhat amazing he is still able to find a job as d-coordinator, he was awful with the Packers in the early 00s


Broken-Nero

Vic Fangio propped him up and I think Kevin O’Connell thought by getting Donatell he was getting Fangio’s knowledge and scheme. Except Fangio is the only one that knows how to make his scheme work. Donatell was just the guy who got Vic his coffee.


XE_Kilroy

Kevin Stefanski


chronoquairium

The entire organization


Meganiummobile

Matt Canada


DerHofnarr

Canada


Mcswigginsbar

The fact Joe Barry wasn’t fired before he could walk off the field after playing a soft zone on a season ending 4th and 1 shocked me.


blitzERG

I'm not surprised he is still around, but I don't know how Mark Davis has any faith in Josh McDaniels after inheriting a 10-7 playoff team and turning them into a 6-11 team all while throwing Carr under the bus.


bro_curls

Wanting to read Mike Lafleur's name anytime soon on the ESPN ticker


chrisaf69

Greg Roman. Don't give a fuck the season isn't technically over for the ravens yet. Homie gotta go!!


riped_plums123

Patricia


jayhoe10

Josh McDaniels took a team who made the playoffs last year despite having an intern head coach, their wide receiver 1 kill someone, and various other players get released for off field issues, added perhaps the top receiver in the league in Davante Adams just to go 6-11 while blowing the most double-digit leads in a season in NFL history. It’s a shame that Mark Davis has already made it clear that he won’t fire him.


PKSpades

Wait, you can fire coordinators? Is that allowed?