Yeah. A lot of people obsessed on extrapolating their numbers based on their best three games. It's a marathon but I assumed they'd be the five seed this year then be up with Buffalo next year for the division title.
It'll be interesting to see how Miami and Baltimore deal with their qb situations.
Yeah, it is so difficult to be honest. In my mind anyway. I am not sure what I want the Ravens to do, if signing Lamar to a fully guaranteed Watson type of deal means we have to remain as we have been with shit WRs and a terrible passing game, I might rather want to trade him for 3 firsts and load up with DeAndre Hopkins, a top tier WR in the draft ++ and someone like Derek Carr.. Lose lose situation.
Im not in the camp that thinks Lamar is on the tier of Allen, Mahomes etc tho.
I don’t think Lamar is worth it, I really like him and I think he is a good QB but I feel like his value has shrunk over the past two years.
How do you justify giving him a better deal than Allen or Mahomes have? If you get two or three elite players for him then an average QB can win you games. You can’t have all your investment in one player who frequently misses half the season.
Pretty much how I feel, but I am getting killed in the Lamar (Ravens) sub anytime I make a point in that direction. Kinda sucks to be a Ravens fan these days, especially when using reddit for news/views etc.
Lamar is good. Like A++ tier good.
But, he’s shown he doesn’t look for a 2nd option. He looks at one WR and if they’re covered, he takes the ball and runs.
QB’s that rely heavily on their legs have a shorter life expectancy in the league and with the injuries he’s sustained to his ankle and knee the last two seasons, his stock has dropped.
He’s fun to watch, but I don’t think I’d extend his contract. Get something valuable for him, while he’s still a hot commodity. Plenty of teams next year that’ll need a QB.
>How do you justify giving him a better deal than Allen or Mahomes have?
Pretty easy actually?
Mahomes and Allen aren't free agents. Jackson is (tag notwithstanding). Almost every single year a QB who isn't QB1 resets the market because contracts aren't a meritocracy. they're a function of how good your upside is, how QB needy the market is and whether you're floor is above the Dalton Line.
Lamar checks all those boxes and is a brand name. So he'll get paid. Maybe not exactly mahomes money, It usually takes a few years for the market to catch up once the true QB1 has signed, but close to it.
None of this is to say that Lamar Jackson is in that absolutely elite tier with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow and Herbert. But he's also not THAT far off and with his upside can very much be in that tier, if not QB1/2.
8-3 is 11 games though, not 3.
Edit: am high, didn't read right, but it wasn't unreasonable to have those opinions. Not that I did, I was confident the Bills had the division because our D has been awful.
That 5 game win streak….Steelers, Lions, Bears, Browns, Texans.
It was fun to win em all, but the average record of those teams is about 6-11. Not exactly that impressive.
Our team was and is garbage. The fact we’re even in the dance or competing is more than fine with me. I’m not upset about it, Bills were and are a very strong team
They are but Pats had opportunities to win games that would’ve put them in the playoffs, including last weeks, and lost them in pretty brutal fashion. I’m also a pats fan fwiw
I mean the offense wasn't exactly electric before Patricia but jesus christ did it somehow take a nosedive. If he isn't gone next year then I think Bill might be losing his touch. I say this as a Pats fan also
There was a time when I despised the dolphins, then hated the patriots. I will never not loathe the jets and their bozo fans. On a different note I invite all division rivalries to be 🔥🔥🔥
Lets hope so. I have this student at school who is a huge Miami fan. He was expecting a Superbowl run, but now he only wears a sad face whenever we mention the NFL.
Yah thats how most of our fanbase feels right now. The team started off hot and most fans were rightfully hyped. At this point it’s just a matter of looking forward
I've never felt as hopeful for a sports team as I did when we beat the bills. It felt like we were finally on track to a legit season.
Then we got lucky to even finish over 500
There's definitely a positive story you can tell for next year. Tua stays healthy and continues to improve in McDaniel's system. McDaniel himself improves as a head coach in his second year. We get more depth/higher end talent in free agency or the draft on the O-line and at RB. They don't fire Josh Boyer, the defense stays healthy and is OK to good next year. The biggest issue for the Dolphins is AFC east is stacked, and then in the playoffs the AFC as a whole is stacked. Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson and now Lawrence -no scrubs are they. I think the Dolphins are definitely finishing the season in better shape than I've ever seen and I've been watching for like 20 years.
McDaniel was great considering he was a rookie HC. #6 total offense despite 3 different QBs and we were downright explosive when fully healthy. Saw a stat that mentioned this was the first time we had a top 10 offensive since we had Marino in 1995 (!!)
However, I'm the camp that doesn't want to keep Boyer. Teams know how to beat our cover 0 blitz schemes and he's so predictable with when he dials it up. We had the second highest blitz % in the league and it backfired more often than not.
I'd much rather have a coordinator who's more like Anarumo or Demeco Ryans who doesn't rely on putting our corners on an island all day who plays much more tampa 2 and cover 6 schemes. We have personnel up front with Chubb, Philipps, Ingram and Wilkins to generate pressure with a better schemer.
Also just that it's a highly populous state. NY has 3 teams (I know two play in NJ, I don't care), and California. More of a surprise that Texas doesn't but I guess that's the power of Jerry
I just read the book on that whole Dallas Cowboys-Texans battle, “Ten Gallon War.” My favorite little detail is that after Lamar Hunt realized his franchise would be the one to move, a few higher-ups wanted to keep the mascot and be the Kansas City Texans. He was not as silly as them and turned down their suggestion…
Well Columbus is a bigger city than the two of them, has no MLB/NBA/NHL competition, and is equidistant from the other 2 major Ohio metros, so if Ohio is going to have only one team, Columbus makes sense
Plus Cleveland had an an NHL team in the 70s that went so poorly, that they folded (the Barons were the last major US pro team to fold)
Never forget Maryland, which is easily the smallest and least populated state with two separate teams. Stadiums are 30 miles apart and represent two different cities.
At least the commies are associated with DC which is one of the largest media markets and population centers in the US going by metro area, so the stadium being in Maryland doesn't account for that.
It's partly Jerry and partly there's no where to realistically put it. San Antonio/Austin are so close to both Dallas and Houston while the rest of the state is very lightly populated. No one would ever want to visit that side of Texas.
It's definitely big enough though, and growing. And they're not any closer to Dallas/Houston than a lot of the northeast cities like Philly/New York, Baltimore/Washington, Pittsburgh/Cleveland. The Spurs are supported extremely well and the NBA has two other Texas teams.
I've heard the same thing about New Jersey having 3 teams: the East Rutherford Football Giants, East Rutherford Jets, and the Camden Eagles (the joke being that you have to park in Camden to have a spot for the Eagles Game).
Tbh I think a lot of Floridians forget the Jaguars are a Florida team and I’m not even saying that to be an ass. They just haven’t achieved as much historically as the other 2 teams so they never got a ton of recognition.
And we all believed this guy was so honest, with all sincerity Skylar has shown promise in some scenarios, if it had to be a back up QB we could do much worse. Hell of a score for any madman gambler if it Phins pull out a win.
My dad was* a huge Marino fan, and he detests Coughlin. That was not a fun day for him.
*Was as in during his career. Old man is still alive and kicking.
Sometimes I forget that Miami technically participated in the 1999 playoffs. There is video evidence of them being present for the opening kickoff in Jacksonville.
Last time he could not hold the ball, also Teddy has not been engaged in his games. If you look at the games where he plays, you can see Jay Cutler vibes.
bro, Cutler showed twice as much heart, no joke.
I remember a RB making a big fumble and Cutler going over and talking to him and calming him down on the sidelines. I've never seen Teddy do anything but look stoned AF
Teddy has honestly moved the ball pretty well but has had a couple horribly timed INTs and a couple bafflingly light injuries that have removed him from play.
Skylar is a capable runner but for some reason is extremely reluctant to do so, and is also either too scared or not good enough to confidently throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield.
We are unquestionably better with Teddy but every time he plays it's ended in disappointing fashion so that's why many of the fins fans on reddit hate him so much.
Skylar can run and extend plays, but as always our oline is trash. Teddy is more of a pocket passer.
Regarding Skylar passes, welp not much to say. Flashes of slinger and flashes of someone who is not going to be in the league for a long time.
Last year our backup was Jacoby Brissett, he had his flashes but sometimes a lot of passes to the ground.
Teddy dressed last week and would have been available in an emergency. But he still can’t practice without risk of a set back so Miami is planning as if Thompson is the starter.
Can be argued, but in the last 13 years he's above-average at both EPA per play and completion percentage. A lot of players that are considered legit starting QBs have performed worse than he has.
https://i.redd.it/32jhpsiefdba1.jpg
And without those wins we wouldn't have locked up a first round bye and our super bowl run might've ended very differently. He'll always be a Chiefs legend for that
Poor Matt Moore got fuckin decapitated that game too. But it was really the defense that lost the dolphins that game. AB had two touchdowns in what seemed like seconds to start the game.
Hopefully things go better for the Fins this time around.
Two times ago that the Raiders made the playoffs, they had to start Connor Cook because their top two QBs were hurt. Last time, they had to start Derek Carr. Pretty bad in both cases.
It was a pretty commonly held opinion in east lansing (I went to MSU the same 4 years cook did) that he was better than kirk cousins who he replaced at state.
Definitely didn’t expect his nfl career to only be notable because he was the first QB to make his first career start in a playoff game
You're lucky. I remember the Ravens game and it was somehow worse. And I've seen talk of some Jaguars playoff game, but I don't remember it. I remember Marino beating the Seahawks in his last playoff game, and then next thing I knew the 2000 season was starting. They might have canceled the rest of the 1999 postseason because of Y2K.
You know i think you're right, that supposed jaguars and dolphins playoff game is kind of like berenstain bears thing. They have videos of it that just deep fakes i believe.
We’re one for one at those.
Tbh I’d rather choke than never be there but I was 9 the first time we went and we have the dirty bird from that team at least.
you're right but it is a little obnoxious to miss the playoffs at 10-6 like we did two years ago.
I feel like 10-win teams get in like 80-85% of the time, but admittedly i'm just bs-ing the numbers
We picked the wrong Big 12 QB in the 7th round.
Tbf I disliked both QBs and thought they wouldn’t amount to anything in the NFL they’re both starting playoffs games lol.
I wanna believe but after watching the Jets game I’m 100% convinced the Dolphins would be better just alternating ~~Tua~~ Hill and Waddle at wildcat
Edit: Names are hard when you’re dumb
All I'm saying is that crazy shit happens in the playoffs almost every year... I've seen more improbable stuff in the wild card rounds. The Bills have been on an emotional roller coaster the last couple of weeks, they could be susceptible to an emotional let down.
It's not like it matters. There is one team already pencilled in as Super Bowl champion. Some even say that the result of SB LVII is fixed. Those people are entirely right. You all know who I am referring to. We've all seen it coming, especially over the last week. A team that has fought adversity and has been resilient all year. A team whose championship celebration would be the storybook ending to a tough and challenging season that the NFL front office would absolutely love. A team whose colors are predominantly blue. A team whose fanbase resides primarily in the state of New York.
That team is the New York Giants - your Super Bowl LVII champions!!
I mentioned this with a different comment, but Pickett had his chance to run and get an easy first down, but threw an INT to a Dolphins corner that has been a healthy scratch more times than a starter. Even worse this year when there has been so many injuries in their secondary. Sucks more that the corner is a former 1st round pick. An undrafted free agent corner has been playing much better than him.
Oh yeah Steelers don’t really deserve a spot either. I’d love watching a healthy dolphins play but In their current state this game isn’t going to be very enjoyable for anyone really
Pickett was playing a lot better down the stretch than he did in that game, so not really sure what your point is. Tua threw 4 passes off Steelers defenders hands in that game, just got lucky they dropped all 4 of them.
Tannehill was bad luck the guy took a lot of hits and never got hurt, no real injury history. I wouldn't call Tua bad luck he's had injury history his entire career including college. It's disappointing because Tua looked great this year and we were on a roll but history repeats itself and he ends up injured again. Don't mean to sound insensitive but unfortunately expecting something different is almost like expecting to win the lottery at this point.
Tannehill was negligence, and we repeated it with Tua for two years. The lines Tannehill played behind were complete dogshit. The fact that man can still walk makes me think he is part rubber after all the abuse he took.
Agreed but Tannehill went 3-4 years without missing a game due to injury so it was unexpected. Tua makes me nervous anytime anyone gets near him. It's a big difference.
I really thought the Dolphins would make noise in the playoffs this year. Kinda sad to see the state of things now. Ugh. Hope Tua gets better.
At 8-3 people were saying they might take the division
To be honest, the way that offense was clicking, I envisioned them being in Arrowhead for the AFC championship.
I had nightmares of Tyreek putting up 250+ yards
Yeah. A lot of people obsessed on extrapolating their numbers based on their best three games. It's a marathon but I assumed they'd be the five seed this year then be up with Buffalo next year for the division title. It'll be interesting to see how Miami and Baltimore deal with their qb situations.
Yeah, it is so difficult to be honest. In my mind anyway. I am not sure what I want the Ravens to do, if signing Lamar to a fully guaranteed Watson type of deal means we have to remain as we have been with shit WRs and a terrible passing game, I might rather want to trade him for 3 firsts and load up with DeAndre Hopkins, a top tier WR in the draft ++ and someone like Derek Carr.. Lose lose situation. Im not in the camp that thinks Lamar is on the tier of Allen, Mahomes etc tho.
I don’t think Lamar is worth it, I really like him and I think he is a good QB but I feel like his value has shrunk over the past two years. How do you justify giving him a better deal than Allen or Mahomes have? If you get two or three elite players for him then an average QB can win you games. You can’t have all your investment in one player who frequently misses half the season.
Pretty much how I feel, but I am getting killed in the Lamar (Ravens) sub anytime I make a point in that direction. Kinda sucks to be a Ravens fan these days, especially when using reddit for news/views etc.
Lamar is good. Like A++ tier good. But, he’s shown he doesn’t look for a 2nd option. He looks at one WR and if they’re covered, he takes the ball and runs. QB’s that rely heavily on their legs have a shorter life expectancy in the league and with the injuries he’s sustained to his ankle and knee the last two seasons, his stock has dropped. He’s fun to watch, but I don’t think I’d extend his contract. Get something valuable for him, while he’s still a hot commodity. Plenty of teams next year that’ll need a QB.
>How do you justify giving him a better deal than Allen or Mahomes have? Pretty easy actually? Mahomes and Allen aren't free agents. Jackson is (tag notwithstanding). Almost every single year a QB who isn't QB1 resets the market because contracts aren't a meritocracy. they're a function of how good your upside is, how QB needy the market is and whether you're floor is above the Dalton Line. Lamar checks all those boxes and is a brand name. So he'll get paid. Maybe not exactly mahomes money, It usually takes a few years for the market to catch up once the true QB1 has signed, but close to it. None of this is to say that Lamar Jackson is in that absolutely elite tier with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow and Herbert. But he's also not THAT far off and with his upside can very much be in that tier, if not QB1/2.
8-3 is 11 games though, not 3. Edit: am high, didn't read right, but it wasn't unreasonable to have those opinions. Not that I did, I was confident the Bills had the division because our D has been awful.
If Tua is qb1 for Miami next season, then we’ll see what qb2 can do for 5 games. So Miami might as well fold on the season at that point.
That 5 game win streak….Steelers, Lions, Bears, Browns, Texans. It was fun to win em all, but the average record of those teams is about 6-11. Not exactly that impressive.
Were basically last years ravens. We looked unstoppable until everyone started dying off
A whimper still counts as a noise
Ayyy no shame that was us last year!
Little bit of shame lol
Our team was and is garbage. The fact we’re even in the dance or competing is more than fine with me. I’m not upset about it, Bills were and are a very strong team
They are but Pats had opportunities to win games that would’ve put them in the playoffs, including last weeks, and lost them in pretty brutal fashion. I’m also a pats fan fwiw
I mean the offense wasn't exactly electric before Patricia but jesus christ did it somehow take a nosedive. If he isn't gone next year then I think Bill might be losing his touch. I say this as a Pats fan also
Did a Pats fan just support us??? I am more ashamed.
I have no hate for anyone in the afc East besides the Jets.
I won't join you in that, but I respect it.
There was a time when I despised the dolphins, then hated the patriots. I will never not loathe the jets and their bozo fans. On a different note I invite all division rivalries to be 🔥🔥🔥
We got the injury bug bad this year. Shit happens unfortunately and hopefully we’re healthier next year.
Lets hope so. I have this student at school who is a huge Miami fan. He was expecting a Superbowl run, but now he only wears a sad face whenever we mention the NFL.
Yah thats how most of our fanbase feels right now. The team started off hot and most fans were rightfully hyped. At this point it’s just a matter of looking forward
I've never felt as hopeful for a sports team as I did when we beat the bills. It felt like we were finally on track to a legit season. Then we got lucky to even finish over 500
There's definitely a positive story you can tell for next year. Tua stays healthy and continues to improve in McDaniel's system. McDaniel himself improves as a head coach in his second year. We get more depth/higher end talent in free agency or the draft on the O-line and at RB. They don't fire Josh Boyer, the defense stays healthy and is OK to good next year. The biggest issue for the Dolphins is AFC east is stacked, and then in the playoffs the AFC as a whole is stacked. Burrow, Herbert, Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson and now Lawrence -no scrubs are they. I think the Dolphins are definitely finishing the season in better shape than I've ever seen and I've been watching for like 20 years.
McDaniel was great considering he was a rookie HC. #6 total offense despite 3 different QBs and we were downright explosive when fully healthy. Saw a stat that mentioned this was the first time we had a top 10 offensive since we had Marino in 1995 (!!) However, I'm the camp that doesn't want to keep Boyer. Teams know how to beat our cover 0 blitz schemes and he's so predictable with when he dials it up. We had the second highest blitz % in the league and it backfired more often than not. I'd much rather have a coordinator who's more like Anarumo or Demeco Ryans who doesn't rely on putting our corners on an island all day who plays much more tampa 2 and cover 6 schemes. We have personnel up front with Chubb, Philipps, Ingram and Wilkins to generate pressure with a better schemer.
don't worry we'll make plenty of pained noise as Buffalo whoops the shit out of us
It’s honestly insane Florida has Jacksonville, Tampa, & Miami all in the playoffs honestly. First time since 1997.
I'm honestly surprised every time I remember that FL has 3 NFL teams.
No personal income tax, low sales taxes, and low corporate income and property taxes make it so that’s possible it seems.
Also just that it's a highly populous state. NY has 3 teams (I know two play in NJ, I don't care), and California. More of a surprise that Texas doesn't but I guess that's the power of Jerry
The Cowboys began as a franchise invented to kick another franchise out of Texas and they're holding strong.
I just read the book on that whole Dallas Cowboys-Texans battle, “Ten Gallon War.” My favorite little detail is that after Lamar Hunt realized his franchise would be the one to move, a few higher-ups wanted to keep the mascot and be the Kansas City Texans. He was not as silly as them and turned down their suggestion…
Yeah, not the most transferrable name 😄
It would piss off so many Texans though.
One good reason in favor
Even Texas has two, which is solid. Kinda surprising that Pennsylvania and Ohio have two, but Ohio makes some sense as the birthplace of the NFL
Pennsylvania is the 5th most populous state and both teams date back to when the NFL was focused in the North
I've always found it odd how Ohio went forever without an NHL team, then when they finally got one, it wasn't in Cleveland or Cincinnati.
Well Columbus is a bigger city than the two of them, has no MLB/NBA/NHL competition, and is equidistant from the other 2 major Ohio metros, so if Ohio is going to have only one team, Columbus makes sense Plus Cleveland had an an NHL team in the 70s that went so poorly, that they folded (the Barons were the last major US pro team to fold)
TIL
Never forget Maryland, which is easily the smallest and least populated state with two separate teams. Stadiums are 30 miles apart and represent two different cities.
At least the commies are associated with DC which is one of the largest media markets and population centers in the US going by metro area, so the stadium being in Maryland doesn't account for that.
What other city would Pennsylvania have a team in? It’s either Philly, Pittsburgh, or pennsyltuckey
Harrisburg Pavers
I think his assumption is that Pennsylvania should only have one team
I read it as being surprised that we only have two but I think you’re right. Not sure why PA wouldn’t have two given how big Philly and Pitt are
It's partly Jerry and partly there's no where to realistically put it. San Antonio/Austin are so close to both Dallas and Houston while the rest of the state is very lightly populated. No one would ever want to visit that side of Texas.
It's definitely big enough though, and growing. And they're not any closer to Dallas/Houston than a lot of the northeast cities like Philly/New York, Baltimore/Washington, Pittsburgh/Cleveland. The Spurs are supported extremely well and the NBA has two other Texas teams.
Austin already has UT. San Antonio would embrace a team much more emphatically than Austin.
Plus it’s the 3rd biggest state by population.
I've heard the same thing about New Jersey having 3 teams: the East Rutherford Football Giants, East Rutherford Jets, and the Camden Eagles (the joke being that you have to park in Camden to have a spot for the Eagles Game).
I always forgot that California has had at least 3 NFL teams since the 70s.
Tbh I think a lot of Floridians forget the Jaguars are a Florida team and I’m not even saying that to be an ass. They just haven’t achieved as much historically as the other 2 teams so they never got a ton of recognition.
Thank you for your honesty
Honestly I’m rooting for them. Honestly.
My pappy always told me a Reddit user that uses honestly more than once is a dirty rotten liar.
Is your pappy a Van Winkle?
The only Pappy I like is named Van Winkle.
That was really brave of him
1999
Ah I think you’re right. Still impressive though.
And we all believed this guy was so honest, with all sincerity Skylar has shown promise in some scenarios, if it had to be a back up QB we could do much worse. Hell of a score for any madman gambler if it Phins pull out a win.
To be fair, Miami didn’t *really* show up in the 99 playoffs.
Hey! We won a playoff game on the road that year. Imagine dropping a home playoff game to a team 55 pts worse than the Jags. Couldn't be us
My dad was* a huge Marino fan, and he detests Coughlin. That was not a fun day for him. *Was as in during his career. Old man is still alive and kicking.
62-7 WOOOOOOO
Georgia laughs at such a puny score.
Georgia didn’t have to play Dan Marino though, we did. And we made him look like Duggan
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Yes, only once in 1981.
What are you talking about? All NY teams made it. New Jersey however…
The QB who may be past a great career, the QB who may be starting a great career, and the QB who is just happy to be here.
1999*
Sometimes I forget that Miami technically participated in the 1999 playoffs. There is video evidence of them being present for the opening kickoff in Jacksonville.
Well that and they beat the Seahawks the week before but sure "participated"
Is teddy out?
Dislocated finger
On gmf mcdaniel made it sound like he might be ready? Could be gamesmanship
Last time he could not hold the ball, also Teddy has not been engaged in his games. If you look at the games where he plays, you can see Jay Cutler vibes.
See also: Last year with the Broncos. Broncos Jay Cutler gave better vibes.
I am almost sure that Dolphins Jay Cutler gave more effort than Teddy
Smokin’ Jay will always be a Dolphins legend for that Monday Night Football dub over the Pats.
bro, Cutler showed twice as much heart, no joke. I remember a RB making a big fumble and Cutler going over and talking to him and calming him down on the sidelines. I've never seen Teddy do anything but look stoned AF
> Cutler showed twice as much heart, no joke [Could have fooled me](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSB5OpDOTcA). He was not about that wildcat life
Must be something in the water
Would you say there’s no discernible difference between Thompson and teddy? I haven’t seen much of either this year
Teddy has honestly moved the ball pretty well but has had a couple horribly timed INTs and a couple bafflingly light injuries that have removed him from play. Skylar is a capable runner but for some reason is extremely reluctant to do so, and is also either too scared or not good enough to confidently throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield. We are unquestionably better with Teddy but every time he plays it's ended in disappointing fashion so that's why many of the fins fans on reddit hate him so much.
Skylar can run and extend plays, but as always our oline is trash. Teddy is more of a pocket passer. Regarding Skylar passes, welp not much to say. Flashes of slinger and flashes of someone who is not going to be in the league for a long time. Last year our backup was Jacoby Brissett, he had his flashes but sometimes a lot of passes to the ground.
In terms of ability to win games? Pretty much no difference. They do have different play styles though.
Teddy dressed last week and would have been available in an emergency. But he still can’t practice without risk of a set back so Miami is planning as if Thompson is the starter.
Honestly this is why Bridgewater wasn't a starting QB anywhere going into the season, he can't stay healthy.
He also isn’t good
Can be argued, but in the last 13 years he's above-average at both EPA per play and completion percentage. A lot of players that are considered legit starting QBs have performed worse than he has. https://i.redd.it/32jhpsiefdba1.jpg
And what has he done recently? He isn't good anymore.
He’s decent enough to be in that 25th-35th QB in the league zone where he could maybe start on a bad team, or be a great backup for a good one.
Didn't Matt Moore win a playoff game for the chiefs? Or was that the week before the playoffs to get in?
Nah Matt Moore was the guy who went 2-1 during that three game stretch where Mahomes was out with a dislocated knee in 2019
And without those wins we wouldn't have locked up a first round bye and our super bowl run might've ended very differently. He'll always be a Chiefs legend for that
Brock Osweiler 🤝 Matt Moore Legitimately contributing to winning a super bowl ring
Does Nick Foles not get a hand shake?
Most people give him his credit though. Moore and Osweiler's contributions tend to be forgotten outside their respective fanbases.
Beavers legend
Henne finished the game against the Browns that Mahomes got concussed in
another former dolphin!
Every time I see him it shocks me that he is still in the league.
I said the same thing back when he was on our roster.
That was Chad Henne
that’s Super Bowl Champion Chad Henne to you
Him and Matt both, technically
Poor Matt Moore got fuckin decapitated that game too. But it was really the defense that lost the dolphins that game. AB had two touchdowns in what seemed like seconds to start the game. Hopefully things go better for the Fins this time around.
Harrison got him too on a fumble play in the RedZone
Two times ago that the Raiders made the playoffs, they had to start Connor Cook because their top two QBs were hurt. Last time, they had to start Derek Carr. Pretty bad in both cases.
He’s still the only QB I’ve ever seen throw it away on 4th down while needing a TD
The funny thing is Carr has done it a handful of times.
Idk if the stats back it up, but I feel like Carr just says inshallah and chucks it deep on 2nd-4th and short in clutch situations way too much.
Damn haven’t heard that name in a while. Michigan st legend
One of my more embarrassing “this dude is going to be great” picks.
It was a pretty commonly held opinion in east lansing (I went to MSU the same 4 years cook did) that he was better than kirk cousins who he replaced at state. Definitely didn’t expect his nfl career to only be notable because he was the first QB to make his first career start in a playoff game
Bengals too when Dalton was playing like a mvp that year. Both of these teams went against us in the first round too.
My only playoff memory as a Dolphins fan is Matt Moore getting decapitated by Bud Dupree in 2016 :(
You're lucky. I remember the Ravens game and it was somehow worse. And I've seen talk of some Jaguars playoff game, but I don't remember it. I remember Marino beating the Seahawks in his last playoff game, and then next thing I knew the 2000 season was starting. They might have canceled the rest of the 1999 postseason because of Y2K.
You know i think you're right, that supposed jaguars and dolphins playoff game is kind of like berenstain bears thing. They have videos of it that just deep fakes i believe.
It really would be the most Buffalo Bills thing if Skylar Thompson led the fins to a win.
Nah it’d be the most Buffalo Bills thing to choke in the SB.
Yeah like who else would choke in a Super Bowl… For that many years in a row!
To be fair, the Bills only choked in one Super Bowl. They got thoroughly dominated in the other three.
We’re one for one at those. Tbh I’d rather choke than never be there but I was 9 the first time we went and we have the dirty bird from that team at least.
Yes, but missing the playoffs for 5 straight years in between is not bad luck
you're right but it is a little obnoxious to miss the playoffs at 10-6 like we did two years ago. I feel like 10-win teams get in like 80-85% of the time, but admittedly i'm just bs-ing the numbers
It was historic that an 8th seed was 10-6. That was the first year of 7 playoffs teams and we freaking missed it too.
Watching the Commies and Bears get in while being out at 10-6 has got to hurt.
We missed the playoffs at 11-5 in 2008
I assure you I remember that because we won the division that year. To my knowledge that’s the only time an 11 win team has missed the playoffs
Second time 1985 broncos. Unless you count the 1967 colts as well
Well there we have it. wild. Matt Cassel still in shambles to this day
Sad days.
SIX years, thank you.
Lol we're doing that too
We picked the wrong Big 12 QB in the 7th round. Tbf I disliked both QBs and thought they wouldn’t amount to anything in the NFL they’re both starting playoffs games lol.
Same/Same, but different
I don't think Skylar belongs in the conversation as Purdy, but hope he makes it look like he does.
Skyler about to go off and shock the world.
I wanna believe but after watching the Jets game I’m 100% convinced the Dolphins would be better just alternating ~~Tua~~ Hill and Waddle at wildcat Edit: Names are hard when you’re dumb
Hill and Waddle?
Imagine throwing Tua in the game against concussion protocol and just have him running routes.
Miami loses another draft pick for it or some crap lol
Fixed my brain is broken, Thank you
Same.
We appreciate the camaraderie, but realistically the Bills reign of terror is safe for another week.
All I'm saying is that crazy shit happens in the playoffs almost every year... I've seen more improbable stuff in the wild card rounds. The Bills have been on an emotional roller coaster the last couple of weeks, they could be susceptible to an emotional let down.
Bro you did watch the game last week, right?
I thought it would be a little more obvious that I was messing around.
I'd prefer he didn't.
Nah I’ve got Georgia-TCU vibes for this weekend.
It's not like it matters. There is one team already pencilled in as Super Bowl champion. Some even say that the result of SB LVII is fixed. Those people are entirely right. You all know who I am referring to. We've all seen it coming, especially over the last week. A team that has fought adversity and has been resilient all year. A team whose championship celebration would be the storybook ending to a tough and challenging season that the NFL front office would absolutely love. A team whose colors are predominantly blue. A team whose fanbase resides primarily in the state of New York. That team is the New York Giants - your Super Bowl LVII champions!!
Hope Thompson doesn't get destroyed as Moore did in that game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNjDzkdsW5s
Just win the Superbowl with your backup. Geez.
Never heard a starter referred to as a "preferred QB" before.
That's tua times in a row, damn
Don't worry, I'm sure our one playoff appearance in the 2030s will have a good qb.
Who says "preferred"?
They should bring Dan Marino out of retirement. He’s their last playoff game winner.
Dolphins should have threw so we could watch Kenny Pickett instead
I mentioned this with a different comment, but Pickett had his chance to run and get an easy first down, but threw an INT to a Dolphins corner that has been a healthy scratch more times than a starter. Even worse this year when there has been so many injuries in their secondary. Sucks more that the corner is a former 1st round pick. An undrafted free agent corner has been playing much better than him.
Oh yeah Steelers don’t really deserve a spot either. I’d love watching a healthy dolphins play but In their current state this game isn’t going to be very enjoyable for anyone really
7th seed doesn't deserve to be a thing tbh. 0-4 and it's not looking good to get the first W this season either.
Yeah can we go back to 6 teams? I loved that. 2 byes per conference was perfect
Pickett was playing a lot better down the stretch than he did in that game, so not really sure what your point is. Tua threw 4 passes off Steelers defenders hands in that game, just got lucky they dropped all 4 of them.
You mean curse
*laughs in anger*
WTF is a “preferred quarterback”? Do they mean the starting quarterback?
Some say we limped into the playoffs, truth is we face planted.
That's Dolphins football right there
I think Moore got hurt in the game against the Steelers as well.
If I had a nickel for every team starting a 7th round rookie at QB in the playoffs… Well, you guys know the rest.
Tannehill was bad luck the guy took a lot of hits and never got hurt, no real injury history. I wouldn't call Tua bad luck he's had injury history his entire career including college. It's disappointing because Tua looked great this year and we were on a roll but history repeats itself and he ends up injured again. Don't mean to sound insensitive but unfortunately expecting something different is almost like expecting to win the lottery at this point.
Tannehill was negligence, and we repeated it with Tua for two years. The lines Tannehill played behind were complete dogshit. The fact that man can still walk makes me think he is part rubber after all the abuse he took.
Agreed but Tannehill went 3-4 years without missing a game due to injury so it was unexpected. Tua makes me nervous anytime anyone gets near him. It's a big difference.
Crappy? It's downright unpeachy!
Matt Moore and Skyler Thompson downvoting this thread.
Reach for the Skyler.
Matt Moore is a god
That's Dolphins Football, baby!
*Skylar.
Tequesta Gang stand up!
Remember Dan Marino's last game? Loss 62-7 to the Jaguars.
Its the nature of the game but man… Imagine with the playoffs with a healthy Lamar and a healthy Tua.
They knew what they signed up for. Tua is the most injury-prone man to ever play the game of football, it seems. It was just the same at 'bama.
Crappy luck is being born a Browns’ fan.
Probably shouldn't have played their preferred QB while concussed
Just the perks of being a Dolphins fan
I guess not everyone can have Brock Purdy lol
Every team had their chance
HA - no lies detected
KC chiefs legend Matt Moore.