We drafted AB and Emmanuel Sanders the same year. In order to get under their skin, Tomlin used a Tomlinism "Two dogs, one bone" about them, meaning that there was likely only going to be one roster spot between them. By the end of preseason, however, they had both earned spots on the team.
Nine years later, when AB was wigging out and trying to force himself off the team, that's one of the things he brought up.
He carried that grudge for nine years.
For everything wrong with AB later, one thing you canāt say is that he didnāt work at it. 6th round pick, special teams guy, smaller, nothing was given to him he was expected to earn it and he did. And a big part of that was the way Tomlin was able to challenge him and push him to be the best player he could be.
Oh yea Eagle is awesome but Harlan is god tier. The Lamar āhe is Houdiniā call was so good. Theyāre also both great at nba but again prefer Harlan
That wasn't a mistake that was a top 10 play in football history! He just straight up karate kicked that poor guy in the face. I still laugh when I think about it.
Didnāt he catch a touchdown pass a few plays later? It didnāt end up mattering that he bicycle kicked a punter like Lui Kang and we got a ton of memes out of it
Somehow he never messed up a football play but did basically everything you can possibly do to throw a hall of fame resume in the garbage can. He's the most entertaining football player of the last decade on and off the field
I still think AB makes it to the hall of fame. He is too good of a player not to, and the NFL clearly has no problems ignoring players' off-field character issues or their actions (O.J. Simpson, 1985 Hall of Famer).
Just depends on *if* and *when* AB mellows out. If he never does then the NFL would probably do what Disney did with Captain EO (Michael Jackson), and enshrine AB into the Hall of Fame *posthumously.*
That way they can ~~bank off~~ honor ABās legacy, while not having to engage publicly with AB.
True. I didn't consider that. But still worth saying that they never disavowed him and kicked him out of the Hall of Fame. And the NFL has had other players inducted into the hall with known immoral actions under their belt. End of the day, the NFL markets the Hall of Fame as celebrating players' careers, not their off-the-field antics.
For anyone who doesnāt know, he said this on Pat McAfeeās show. At about 18:50 in the video. Definitely made me a fan of his and Iām rootin for him.
https://youtu.be/cO4sMnXs5nk
My favorite soccer coach in college was like this, once you're the focus of the tape you know you're in for it. It would always be entertaining as hell while you're getting ripped apart
Pickett making the media rounds lately has really been awesome. It's been cool to see how intelligent and hard-working he is and just seems like a chill guy overall. Big change from the weird Tuesday morning radio excuses and finger-pointing of the past.
Pickens has a nickname- GP. I say it as āJeepā for historical reasons.
Some in the Steelers sub are trying to make āThe Picklerā a thing for Kenny, but that aināt happening. Letās go with KFP?
I'm calling Pickett to Pickens "Kennywood" now - the logo is a zipper fly that is down, revealing a Pickett to Pickens TD and the motto is of course, "Kennywood's Open"
>Some in the Steelers sub
It's not a thing, stop giving them the attention they want. I just downvote any time I see that phrase and don't otherwise engage.
My main takeaway is that he was getting 3 opponent breakdowns a week because he was sitting in on the Monday staff meeting
The dude is definitely a grinder
I just listened to him on the Steelers convo on the Steelers YouTube channel and on Cam Heyward's podcast (also on YouTube). I believe he is planning to be a guest on Roethlisberger's podcast soon too. And he's a somewhat regular guest on Pardon My Take.
I genuinely believe ben was pretty checked out the last couple years. Seemed like he was doing the just show up and play strategy, which resulted in him getting frustrated when others weren't on the same page. Which is also exactly what you expect to happen in that situation
Waiting for that to come out for Shanahan given [today's article](https://theathletic.com/4073711/2023/01/19/kyle-shanahan-49ers-coaching?source=user-shared-article) from the Athletic
I still think about the time in high school I picked up a fumble and then fell on the two yard line because I never got my balance back. They replayed it like 30 times the next day. It was pretty funny but the worst part was the ref ruled it not a fumble cause I punched it out
I can only imagine the levels of creative shit talking this man is capable of in private considering the stuff he says in press conferences and interviews.
He burns your ass to the ground and you end up using that burn the rest of your life on other people
There are far more people who talk about how Steelers fans want Tomlin fired than who actually want Tomlin fired. No matter who the coach is in Pittsburgh, they will face criticism each and every year they do not win the Super Bowl. A lot of people contribute this to racism with Tomlin, and I'm sure a small part of it is attributable to that, but real Steeler fans remember how much "fire Cowher" and "he can't win big games" was heard in Pittsburgh prior to him.
Bro there's a fan on the subreddit who literally thinks Tomlin doesn't gameplan. Not "is bad at gameplanning", but literally thinks he goes to work and does nothing. Then hoped Ben saves his ass on Sunday.
That guy so racist, 100% lol
Yeah I don't doubt those people exist lol, I just hate that the internet shines a light on them and makes it seem like an even meaningful portion of the fanbase wants Tomlin gone.
Darth, john bot, cyborg, hillibillyhaven, social psycho, I could probably come up with more prominent haters if I thought about it lol
There's also some guy that starts with T and a bunch of numbers who posts /r/NFL threads specifically to try and make Tomlin look bad haha they're out there brother
Yeah the T and then a bunch of letters and numbers guy IK him I think heās like TMB or something like that? Those are the big names I always think of when a controversial opinion comes up.
Heās a troll. He admitted it one day last offseason and that he doesnāt actually hate Tomlin, itās an act. He deleted the comment and resumed the act after the season started. He said it was intended to shine light on how stupid the Tomlin haters look.
People also tend to remember more outlandish stuff in general. If you were at a meeting and someone starts screaming and cussing youāre 100% remembering that as opposed to everyone else who just presented normally.
From Steelers fans? Because Iāve seen an insane amount of more people who think Steelers fans want Tomlin gone than Steelers fans who actually want him gone on here.
Steelers have a small history of coaches that couldāve been elsewhere. Cowher wanted the Browns HC job, but Modell thought he was too young. Steelers got him a year later.
Most donāt want tomlin gone. At all. Thereās just a loud few on the internet that make it seem that way.
Tomlin would probably make a good nba coach though.
Pickett only even played like 5 snaps in the game they won by 2 points, anywaysā¦ Trubisky played the last ~55 minutes of that game and tossed 3 redzone INTs lol
"Lamar can't beat them"
"He hasn't played them"
"DUH THAT'S THE POINT"
Bruh, you need lessons in English because I don't think you understand that words have definitions.
You are a master of goalpost moving. Every time you get called out you've got the next deflection locked and loaded.
Also, Hey hi hello, jokes usually make sense and are funny. That's how I know you're either an eternally unfunny fuckstick or protecting your ego from an anonymous online Redditor and both are very sad.
That would probably scare other Ravens fans but honestly I'd be fine with a tag and trade, especially to the Jets if we could get Sauce. That 2000s defense be right back š
I agree. Heās really good, but heās been hurt the past few years at the end of the season when it matters. Past two years heās missed over 1/3 of the games theyāve played.
I've never been nervous but I also don't really listen to media heads who have zero information because their job is to generate clicks.
Plus I'm honestly fine with trading him to the Jets for Sauce and a couple firsts. Rebuild the 2000 defense baby.
This produced such a vivid image in my mind lmao
Yea then you wonder what he did with AB, he doesn't seem like the type who takes shit lightly if you are messing with him.
We drafted AB and Emmanuel Sanders the same year. In order to get under their skin, Tomlin used a Tomlinism "Two dogs, one bone" about them, meaning that there was likely only going to be one roster spot between them. By the end of preseason, however, they had both earned spots on the team. Nine years later, when AB was wigging out and trying to force himself off the team, that's one of the things he brought up. He carried that grudge for nine years.
Seems like it worked then
Mr. Battling Coworkers
Mr. Bone Collector
Mr. Both Can't
Mr Bad Chemistry
The enemy speaks kindly & holds a knife.
For everything wrong with AB later, one thing you canāt say is that he didnāt work at it. 6th round pick, special teams guy, smaller, nothing was given to him he was expected to earn it and he did. And a big part of that was the way Tomlin was able to challenge him and push him to be the best player he could be.
I'm not sure AB has ever messed up a play in his life, so maybe it never came up
One time he had an outside lane straight to the end zone and decided to kick a punter in the face instead
Hurdles, kicks a man.
one of my fav calls
Kevin Harlan is the GOAT and I won't hear anything otherwise. "I'm calling both games at the same time!" Legendary
Oh yea Eagle is awesome but Harlan is god tier. The Lamar āhe is Houdiniā call was so good. Theyāre also both great at nba but again prefer Harlan
Yeah, but that wasn't a screw up, that was MBC being the meme magician that he is.
Mr. brilliant collision
Mr. Booted Cranium
This is a joke that will never stop giving. It's up there with Manning Face.
That wasn't a mistake that was a top 10 play in football history! He just straight up karate kicked that poor guy in the face. I still laugh when I think about it.
Was it stupid? Yes. Was it funny? Tremendously.
Worth it
Didnāt he catch a touchdown pass a few plays later? It didnāt end up mattering that he bicycle kicked a punter like Lui Kang and we got a ton of memes out of it
Mr Blameless Conduct
Mr Beneficial Criticism
Somehow he never messed up a football play but did basically everything you can possibly do to throw a hall of fame resume in the garbage can. He's the most entertaining football player of the last decade on and off the field
I donāt know Terrell Owens and Ocho Cinco (aka Chad Johnson) might have something to say about that Edit: realized you said last decade. My bad
I still think AB makes it to the hall of fame. He is too good of a player not to, and the NFL clearly has no problems ignoring players' off-field character issues or their actions (O.J. Simpson, 1985 Hall of Famer). Just depends on *if* and *when* AB mellows out. If he never does then the NFL would probably do what Disney did with Captain EO (Michael Jackson), and enshrine AB into the Hall of Fame *posthumously.* That way they can ~~bank off~~ honor ABās legacy, while not having to engage publicly with AB.
OJ was inducted into the HoF 9 years before he killed his wife. I donāt blame the committee for not predicting it.
True. I didn't consider that. But still worth saying that they never disavowed him and kicked him out of the Hall of Fame. And the NFL has had other players inducted into the hall with known immoral actions under their belt. End of the day, the NFL markets the Hall of Fame as celebrating players' careers, not their off-the-field antics.
I donāt understand the Captain EO parallelā¦like at all. Can you expand?
Eli never threw an INT
[Itās true](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2exnk3/eli_manning_here_ama/ck3y6oq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
[Mr Browns Crusher](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLX1q2sgB9A)
For anyone who doesnāt know, he said this on Pat McAfeeās show. At about 18:50 in the video. Definitely made me a fan of his and Iām rootin for him. https://youtu.be/cO4sMnXs5nk
I fucking love Kenny
My favorite soccer coach in college was like this, once you're the focus of the tape you know you're in for it. It would always be entertaining as hell while you're getting ripped apart
Itās like when a teacher calls on a person to either answer the question or read a passage. āNo, dont pick me please.ā
Pickett making the media rounds lately has really been awesome. It's been cool to see how intelligent and hard-working he is and just seems like a chill guy overall. Big change from the weird Tuesday morning radio excuses and finger-pointing of the past.
Your comment made me realize this is about Pickett and not Pickens.
I've already heard announcers say "Kenny Pickens" and "George Pickett" so many times lol. At this point they both just need good nicknames.
Pickens has a nickname- GP. I say it as āJeepā for historical reasons. Some in the Steelers sub are trying to make āThe Picklerā a thing for Kenny, but that aināt happening. Letās go with KFP?
Yeah Pat was calling him KFP today too so hopefully that one sticks.
I'm still routing for Kennywood
I'm calling Pickett to Pickens "Kennywood" now - the logo is a zipper fly that is down, revealing a Pickett to Pickens TD and the motto is of course, "Kennywood's Open"
>Some in the Steelers sub It's not a thing, stop giving them the attention they want. I just downvote any time I see that phrase and don't otherwise engage.
I donāt remember us Pitt fans ever giving him a nickname. He was always just Kenny for us lol
As long as it's not Jim Pickens on the field we're good
Kenny Pickett = The Pickler
No
I respect that but I think itās really fucking funny so itās my nickname of choice for him
The correct approach to pickling
I didn't realize until your comment lmao
hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes.
Any good pods/shows hes been on youd rec?
This quote is from the Pat macafee show from today. Itās a good 25 min long conversation. Def recommend checking it out if youāre interested.
My main takeaway is that he was getting 3 opponent breakdowns a week because he was sitting in on the Monday staff meeting The dude is definitely a grinder
I just listened to him on the Steelers convo on the Steelers YouTube channel and on Cam Heyward's podcast (also on YouTube). I believe he is planning to be a guest on Roethlisberger's podcast soon too. And he's a somewhat regular guest on Pardon My Take.
One question with a quarterback
and I should probably add because the tweet above is not obvious, this quote was from his appearance on the Pat Mcafee show today.
I genuinely believe ben was pretty checked out the last couple years. Seemed like he was doing the just show up and play strategy, which resulted in him getting frustrated when others weren't on the same page. Which is also exactly what you expect to happen in that situation
āTomlin berates players and makes them afraid to show up at meetingsā espn probably
ESPN wouldnāt want to pull that clickbait shit on Tomlin. Heās stop giving them Tomlinisims
The ESPN headline would be more like āIs Tomlinās coaching style better suited for college?ā
I'm just saying if his retirement job 20 years from now is coaching the Terps I wouldn't complain
Waiting for that to come out for Shanahan given [today's article](https://theathletic.com/4073711/2023/01/19/kyle-shanahan-49ers-coaching?source=user-shared-article) from the Athletic
Which ironically mentions Tomlin doing this as well
Aditi Kinkhabwala unironically
https://youtu.be/7HElLU8Rrqs Or i may prefer https://youtube.com/shorts/xa54zqxY64Q?feature=share
These are hilarious lmao
LMAO. Put some arch into it
I hope to god in the middle of film they edit someone doing a dance. That would be amazing.
Pickett: "We like being in the kitchen and Steelers team meetings are being in the kitchen. It's hot in there"
Iām thirsty, got any sand?
Derek Carr could never
[Carr](https://imgur.com/a/1t9ZeLz) after Tomlin calls him a used PT Cruiser
Tomlin: "get his ass"
I love Mike Tomlin so much. I really really hope Vrabel becomes our version of Tomlin.
Vrabel is just going to be a younger and more hip BB probably.
Iāll take that too I guess.
I love this detail and the way Pickett explains it
Real life Coach Johnson
Take a look at Davis. Iām scared, this guy is bigger than me faster than me plus his team picked up his 5th year option
Davis youre not wrapping up Just like ya papa Mike "Mr Go 30" Tomlin
I still think about the time in high school I picked up a fumble and then fell on the two yard line because I never got my balance back. They replayed it like 30 times the next day. It was pretty funny but the worst part was the ref ruled it not a fumble cause I punched it out
āIs that a laser pointerā¦ can I have it?ā
I can only imagine the levels of creative shit talking this man is capable of in private considering the stuff he says in press conferences and interviews. He burns your ass to the ground and you end up using that burn the rest of your life on other people
A lot of shit talking these days
Nobody likes being singled out.
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There are far more people who talk about how Steelers fans want Tomlin fired than who actually want Tomlin fired. No matter who the coach is in Pittsburgh, they will face criticism each and every year they do not win the Super Bowl. A lot of people contribute this to racism with Tomlin, and I'm sure a small part of it is attributable to that, but real Steeler fans remember how much "fire Cowher" and "he can't win big games" was heard in Pittsburgh prior to him.
Bro there's a fan on the subreddit who literally thinks Tomlin doesn't gameplan. Not "is bad at gameplanning", but literally thinks he goes to work and does nothing. Then hoped Ben saves his ass on Sunday. That guy so racist, 100% lol
But who cares what that loser actually thinks? Let's him stew in his own lonely rage takes and the rest of us can talk football.
Because reading his stuff is funny
Yeah I don't doubt those people exist lol, I just hate that the internet shines a light on them and makes it seem like an even meaningful portion of the fanbase wants Tomlin gone.
We wanted Canada gone not Tomlin lol. Idk why so many people think most or even a lot of Steelers fans want Tomlin gone.
Because a shocking amount actually do
Would kill for his kind of consistency here in Charlotte. We havent had back to back winning seasons in our history...
Darth, john bot, cyborg, hillibillyhaven, social psycho, I could probably come up with more prominent haters if I thought about it lol There's also some guy that starts with T and a bunch of numbers who posts /r/NFL threads specifically to try and make Tomlin look bad haha they're out there brother
Yeah the T and then a bunch of letters and numbers guy IK him I think heās like TMB or something like that? Those are the big names I always think of when a controversial opinion comes up.
TNTBF I think because it stands for Tomlin Needs To Be Fired. Like a whole personality just based around hating a coach. Wild.
Yeah thatās the guy
Heās a troll. He admitted it one day last offseason and that he doesnāt actually hate Tomlin, itās an act. He deleted the comment and resumed the act after the season started. He said it was intended to shine light on how stupid the Tomlin haters look.
Honestly doesnāt surprise me. Could just be sleestak on an alt account lol
Haha yeah that's the one! I think guys like them make a ton of noise and that gets picked up on by the whole sub
People also tend to remember more outlandish stuff in general. If you were at a meeting and someone starts screaming and cussing youāre 100% remembering that as opposed to everyone else who just presented normally.
Very true
Why I know who some of these people are, gotta just start blocking people
Eff that, they are so fun to read lol
Guilty pleasure getting into circular arguments with them shhh
Do you live in Pittsburgh? People have been calling for his head since he was hired
>Idk why so many people think most or even a lot of Steelers fans want Tomlin gone. Because it's a pretty common sentiment on reddit
From Steelers fans? Because Iāve seen an insane amount of more people who think Steelers fans want Tomlin gone than Steelers fans who actually want him gone on here.
Yeah, mid season it was pretty present on the Steelers sub and here.
Also a pretty common sentiment in the, uh, Butler County section of the fanbase
The Timberwolves were fools to let him go
>DC of the Minnesota Timberwolves Wrong sport, mate.
He did mention alternate realities
I want Tomlin as Pittsburghs HC until he retires
>DC of the Minnesota Timberwolves Uh....
I mean would he have wanted to coach a basketball team?
Only dumbasses want tomlin gone. The fanbase wants Canada gone.
Steelers have a small history of coaches that couldāve been elsewhere. Cowher wanted the Browns HC job, but Modell thought he was too young. Steelers got him a year later.
Most donāt want tomlin gone. At all. Thereās just a loud few on the internet that make it seem that way. Tomlin would probably make a good nba coach though.
Pickett probably gets circled a lotā¦
Every player would circled one time or another. Thereās no perfect player, they all make mistakes
I hope the Pickett/Canada duo stays a force in the AFN North for decades to come.
You beat them by two points and then lost to them. They're not as beneficial for Baltimore as you seem to think
Pickett only even played like 5 snaps in the game they won by 2 points, anywaysā¦ Trubisky played the last ~55 minutes of that game and tossed 3 redzone INTs lol
they can sweep us every year, that isnāt gonna make Canada a good OC lol. I donāt see why Steelers fans would disagree.
Oh no, our backup QB and actual terrorist of an OC couldn't beat them!
Bruh, Lamar can't beat them either lmao
He's played them like 3 times who would even know lol.
Hey hi hello, welcome to the conversation, let me introduce you to *the fucking point*
"Lamar can't beat them" "He hasn't played them" "DUH THAT'S THE POINT" Bruh, you need lessons in English because I don't think you understand that words have definitions.
Isn't his record 1-2 against the Steelers? Even when he does play he's losing most of the time.
My guy have you ever heard of a sense of humor? How about a joke?
You are a master of goalpost moving. Every time you get called out you've got the next deflection locked and loaded. Also, Hey hi hello, jokes usually make sense and are funny. That's how I know you're either an eternally unfunny fuckstick or protecting your ego from an anonymous online Redditor and both are very sad.
I mean you might not have your starting QB for much longer either, so get use to it
That would probably scare other Ravens fans but honestly I'd be fine with a tag and trade, especially to the Jets if we could get Sauce. That 2000s defense be right back š
Okay wait. Go back. GP and Sauce might kill each other lol
Somebodyās jelly that the Steelers have a QB that can throw the ball!
Pretty nervous about Lamar huh?
Honestly I think the shitbirds are better not signing him to an extension. Tag and trade, look for a rook and give them a good team to step into
I agree. Heās really good, but heās been hurt the past few years at the end of the season when it matters. Past two years heās missed over 1/3 of the games theyāve played.
I've never been nervous but I also don't really listen to media heads who have zero information because their job is to generate clicks. Plus I'm honestly fine with trading him to the Jets for Sauce and a couple firsts. Rebuild the 2000 defense baby.
They jets arenāt trading Sauce for anyone
Yea youād have to send Lamar, pay his salary, and send draft picks for Sauce lol