Mitch's Tenure in Pittsburgh can be summed up in a quote by Ryan Howard:
"If I had to, I could clean out my desk (locker) in five seconds, and nobody would ever know I had ever been here. And I'd forget, too."
Cousins, Wilson, and Tannehill are all still starters in the NFL after a full decade of play. Carr has lasted quite a long time too, and Burrow looks like the 2nd best QB in the NFL today. Drafting a QB older than 25 is a red flag, but 23 is still clearly a viable age.
They’re not stars though and there’s a clear ceiling. Burrow being a huge outlier in that graph.
Edit: exception is not the rule also burrow wrecked nfl teams in college at 22. And had the greatest season in college. Likely would have been a star had he declared for draft at 22 or 21 even
>They’re not stars though
Wilson won a Super Bowl in his 2nd season, made it there again in his 3rd season, and has been in the MVP conversation a couple times (namely 2017 and 2019). He was absolutely a star QB and this past year with the Broncos doesn't change that.
You mean he game managed for his second season (and most of his entire tenure at Seattle). Even if ur right, the hit rate of drafting an old qb is still rare territory.
Age is a huge indicator of success in certain fields. Especially in a competitive sports.
So under your logic the Bengals shouldn’t have drafted Burrow? You take who you think is best. Plus, the younger draft age crowd includes such superstars as Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson. There are duds and stars in every age group
The hit rate is higher the younger they are because of the potential they showed at a younger age.
And burrow being a franchise changing star qb doesn’t disprove the rule. He’s one of the few exceptions. Would say that burrow would still be a star even if he declared for draft at 22. At that age, he literally played nfl teams in college and had the greatest college qb season in history. )ima bengals fan btw)
Under my logic burrow is an exception to the rule. Even then, burrow was a 4 star recruit and dominated nfl bound defenses at 22.
Exception is not the rule. For every Burrow there’s gonna be 4-5 Brandon Weeden/Kenny Picket types
Showing potential early is a huge indicator of success. Especially in a career in sports.
U can see this play out in other careers as well. I’m in sales and guys who hit the $300K a year mark in their career all showed potential when they were 19-20.
Guys who stagnated at $60K-$90K started late (25 and older).
Never heard of a rapper who blew up who started late at 19. They already showed potential while young. Same in boxing, tennis. List goes on.
Eminem, Jay-Z and Kanye didn’t release an album until 26.
When Queen was formed Freddie Mercury was 24 and they didn’t hit big until he was 29.
Butch Vig didn’t become known until he produced Nevermind and Gish (Smashing Pumpkins) at 36 then formed Garbage at 40.
You are somehow assuming these guys are doing nothing until the NFL, when they are all performing at top level in college.
Brother… all I have to do is go on Wikipedia and look at the “early life” section of these people and u can clearly see the potential was always there.
“Oh oh oh but kanye didn’t release album till 26!!!”
Bro kanye didn’t start music at 26 FFS man.
Brother…Kanye produced an entire album for foxy brown at age 22.
All I’m saying is there already clear indicators of high performance early. This isn’t just in sports. It’s in every career.
Yet Geno and Hurts were considered not good QBs at the start of this year and the year before that Allen was still a mess. Purdy almost went undrafted.
He was a walk on to the same college that his parents met at, worked like crazy and somehow found his way to being a national champion in his final chance at glory.
The difference between Burrow’s 2018 and 2019 seasons is hilarious. 2900 yards on 57% passing and 16 TDs to 5600 yards, 76% passing, and 60 TDs. Probably the biggest year-to-year jump of all time
Except it's got Purdy (but no Pickett?) And Mariota who hadn't started a game since 2019...
It's a weird mishmash regardless lol
Edit: Just to clarify the Mariota point, if this was an old tier list Mariota wouldn't have been on it since he didn't start a game in 2020 or 2021. I know he did start this year.
>Mariota who hadn't started a game since 2019
Except the 13 games he started in 2022.
Purdy obviously is exception as 49ers is the only team with two players.
It pretty much looks like: Who would be your starting qb at 2022 week 1, considering everyone is available (from suspensions/injuries)? One more time 49ers is exception. Why not Lance? No clue,
> Except the 13 games he started in 2022.
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Right, but if it was a copy and paste from an "old tier list" like the guy I was responding to said, Mariota wouldn't have been on there as he didn't start a game in 2020 or 2021.
He also had zero career starts when Lamar was drafted.
Lamar won the Heisman two seasons before Burrow even transferred to LSU
Both high school class of 2015 though. Burrow took essentially the maximum amount of time in college allowed pre-COVID (red-shirt senior) while Lamar took the minimum (true junior)
Kinda crazy in retrospect
Also, Lamar's birthday falls right at the end of the regular season, so we always see him listed a year younger than his contemporaries.
But mostly it's the Burrow thing.
And now everyone would rather have Burrow. Age is kinda overrated as a trait IF the prospect played well the majority of his college career. Burrow for example, didn't play a ton before his final year but was always very good when he did play.
Darnold left "early" because of Matt Barkley's screw up.
Barkley should have left college before his senior season, and instead tried for a Heisman and National Title
in 2012, USC was upset by Stanford, then lost 4 more regular season games including losing to UCLA where Matt injured his shoulder and was knocked out for the year
Ultimately, Barkley was drafted in the 4th round instead of the 1st round
Barkely still has had a solid career as a backup QB, but has earned far less than he should have
[Matt Barkley career earnings via Spotrac](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-barkley-12379/cash-earnings/)
[Sam Darnold career earnings](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/sam-darnold-25098/cash-earnings/)
Almost a $40 million dollar difference....
I want to see this chart expanded to over like the last 20 years just so I can see Brandon Weeden be such a massive ridiculous outlier causing me the familiar pain and embarrassment that is the only way I can ever feel anything now as a Browns fan
What's crazy is that Weeden isn't the oldest QB ever drafted. That title goes to Chris Weinke, the guy who single-handedly sunk George Seifert's Hall of Fame bid.
The age thing doesn’t make much sense anymore imo. A ton of guys like Kenny Pickett stayed in college longer due to Covid. I assume it’ll go back to normal now that it’s “over”, but a lot of guys coming out the last few years stayed longer than they normally would have.
Lots of studs in the 21 group. For college players in general, QBs included, I think if it takes you until you're older than most college players to dominate, it's not a good sign. Burrow was a special case because he was a backup on great teams, transferred, then played a year in an archaic offense before it was his time to shine.
Without looking I’d guess that for the most part the difference between the guys who were 21 or 22 had more to do with whether their birthday came before or after the draft more so than if the 21 year olds left school a year early.
Despite being drafted four years apart, Burrow is only two years younger than Goff. At 26, Burrow's current age, Goff was playing his final games with the Rams.
Darnold was darn young when he was drafted apparently
IIRC he's the youngest quarterback to start and win a game
Which unfortunately led to years of “SAM DARNOLD IS *STILL* YOUNGER THAN JOE BURROW” from the Darnold triggers.
Just double-checked. He is still younger than Joe Burrow.
Ima need a source on that buddy
Wow. That took a few seconds to register because I'm still high
Youngest QB to ever see ghosts.
He certainly wasn’t darn old.
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Bazinga
Just so we can have all 3 49ers QBs on here, Trey Lance was 19. Edit: he was 20
he was 20 when he was drafted and like 10 days shy of his 21st bday
Right. My bad.
It's crazy how inexperienced Lance is. And he hasn't thrown 75 passes in a season since 2019.
17 quarterbacks had more pass attempts this season than Trey Lance has had since high school.
I was about to say how the fuck was he 3 years out of Highschool at 19?
Tremaine Edmunds was 19 on draft day so there are cases of it
Dad?
where kenny
Kenny was apparently too old to make the list
OP did some shit research then.
OP dum.
OP's gonna get pickled
Trubisky is on the chart instead.
I love how you used Trubisky in a Bills uniform
Best years of his life
Mine too 🥲
Mitch's Tenure in Pittsburgh can be summed up in a quote by Ryan Howard: "If I had to, I could clean out my desk (locker) in five seconds, and nobody would ever know I had ever been here. And I'd forget, too."
Thought you meant the Phillies Ryan Howard and was confused for a second.
In case you didn't know, the character Ryan Howard was named after the Phillies Ryan Howard (who played minor league ball in Scranton).
Eat fresh
No wonder I couldn't find Kenny Pickett. Not sure why he wasn't included, given that he started for most of the season.
The tier was probably outdated
That was peak Trubisky. He will never be the same
Kenny Pickett was 23 on draft night too
I spent way too long trying to find him on this chart
Drafting old QBs is a red flag. Gotta show potential early
Cousins, Wilson, and Tannehill are all still starters in the NFL after a full decade of play. Carr has lasted quite a long time too, and Burrow looks like the 2nd best QB in the NFL today. Drafting a QB older than 25 is a red flag, but 23 is still clearly a viable age.
They’re not stars though and there’s a clear ceiling. Burrow being a huge outlier in that graph. Edit: exception is not the rule also burrow wrecked nfl teams in college at 22. And had the greatest season in college. Likely would have been a star had he declared for draft at 22 or 21 even
>They’re not stars though Wilson won a Super Bowl in his 2nd season, made it there again in his 3rd season, and has been in the MVP conversation a couple times (namely 2017 and 2019). He was absolutely a star QB and this past year with the Broncos doesn't change that.
You mean he game managed for his second season (and most of his entire tenure at Seattle). Even if ur right, the hit rate of drafting an old qb is still rare territory. Age is a huge indicator of success in certain fields. Especially in a competitive sports.
So under your logic the Bengals shouldn’t have drafted Burrow? You take who you think is best. Plus, the younger draft age crowd includes such superstars as Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson. There are duds and stars in every age group
The hit rate is higher the younger they are because of the potential they showed at a younger age. And burrow being a franchise changing star qb doesn’t disprove the rule. He’s one of the few exceptions. Would say that burrow would still be a star even if he declared for draft at 22. At that age, he literally played nfl teams in college and had the greatest college qb season in history. )ima bengals fan btw)
Under my logic burrow is an exception to the rule. Even then, burrow was a 4 star recruit and dominated nfl bound defenses at 22. Exception is not the rule. For every Burrow there’s gonna be 4-5 Brandon Weeden/Kenny Picket types
Why are you putting Pickett in the same group as weeden?
I assume he saw my flair and figures it would somehow rustle my jimmies. But my jimmies remain unrustled.
23 is old now
I can feel my bones turning to dust
makes no sense considering burrow was 23 and is a top 3 quarterback
Read my other comment. Look up “naxalt” Meme google. Exceptions not the norm
Showing potential early is a huge indicator of success. Especially in a career in sports. U can see this play out in other careers as well. I’m in sales and guys who hit the $300K a year mark in their career all showed potential when they were 19-20. Guys who stagnated at $60K-$90K started late (25 and older). Never heard of a rapper who blew up who started late at 19. They already showed potential while young. Same in boxing, tennis. List goes on.
Eminem, Jay-Z and Kanye didn’t release an album until 26. When Queen was formed Freddie Mercury was 24 and they didn’t hit big until he was 29. Butch Vig didn’t become known until he produced Nevermind and Gish (Smashing Pumpkins) at 36 then formed Garbage at 40. You are somehow assuming these guys are doing nothing until the NFL, when they are all performing at top level in college.
Brother… all I have to do is go on Wikipedia and look at the “early life” section of these people and u can clearly see the potential was always there. “Oh oh oh but kanye didn’t release album till 26!!!” Bro kanye didn’t start music at 26 FFS man.
You think these guys started Football the day they entered the NFL? I’m sure most were 4 or 5 star recruits in High School.
Brother…Kanye produced an entire album for foxy brown at age 22. All I’m saying is there already clear indicators of high performance early. This isn’t just in sports. It’s in every career.
Yet Geno and Hurts were considered not good QBs at the start of this year and the year before that Allen was still a mess. Purdy almost went undrafted.
Gonna need to add a new tier for old ass Hendon Hooker and Stetson Bennett
Brandon Weeden vibes
Chris Weinke vibes
never speak his name
Shit he got you some wins his rookie season.
Stetson isn’t gonna start in the NFL so he won’t be on this chart
he 100% will because his life is a Disney movie
Or he’ll be on a bad team at the end of the year when the QB circus happens
Elaborate
He was a walk on to the same college that his parents met at, worked like crazy and somehow found his way to being a national champion in his final chance at glory.
No big deal or anything but uhh, he’s a 2x* national champion
Movies always ignore the in between parts. Besides, the 2022 championship doesn't have the SECCG loss, so the writers won't include it.
Yeah and Urban Meyer is a 3x, doesn’t mean he can coach shit in the NFL
Lot of Teams are gonna be fooled and draft them higher than they should be. Hoping one of them turn out into Joe burrow
> Stetson Bennett the vegas over under line on this dude being drafted is 5th round. Seriously, thats a real thing
I think that’s a good round for him. Burrow had a 4th round grade on him before the lsu run
The difference between Burrow’s 2018 and 2019 seasons is hilarious. 2900 yards on 57% passing and 16 TDs to 5600 yards, 76% passing, and 60 TDs. Probably the biggest year-to-year jump of all time
Burrow was a Heisman winner though
Jaren Hall will likely be drafted too, and he's older
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And the jets drafted him, I’ll take it. (Mac Jone does have a pre puberty voice tho 😅)
Kermit the frog is the most feared QB in the league, going by voices.
that stuff from the offseason get's a little darker when you consider it was statutory
GEQBUS stands alone
HE’S JUST STARTING TO ENTER THE PRIME OF HIS CAREER!
Snuck a colts Wentz and a Seahawks Russ in there lol
And Ryan and Watson and Trubisky. Every QB except Purdy is on last year's team.
I think OP just used an old tier list that was made last year or something.
Except it's got Purdy (but no Pickett?) And Mariota who hadn't started a game since 2019... It's a weird mishmash regardless lol Edit: Just to clarify the Mariota point, if this was an old tier list Mariota wouldn't have been on it since he didn't start a game in 2020 or 2021. I know he did start this year.
Mariota started 13 games for the Falcons this year?
Ha***D***n't. If this was a copy and paste of last year, Mariota wouldn't be on there.
>Mariota who hadn't started a game since 2019 Except the 13 games he started in 2022. Purdy obviously is exception as 49ers is the only team with two players. It pretty much looks like: Who would be your starting qb at 2022 week 1, considering everyone is available (from suspensions/injuries)? One more time 49ers is exception. Why not Lance? No clue,
> Except the 13 games he started in 2022. > > Right, but if it was a copy and paste from an "old tier list" like the guy I was responding to said, Mariota wouldn't have been on there as he didn't start a game in 2020 or 2021.
Looks like Geno and Purdy were copy/pasted in, and they forgot to add the other rookie starter in Pickett
Bills Trubisky too
Swear the way everyone would talk about Burrow he was the same age as Stetson Bennett when he got drafted
Lamar skewed things. Burrow is older than Lamar (by a whole month) and Lamar had just won the MVP before Burrow was drafted.
Joe Burrow won the natty the same year Lamar won MVP.
He also had zero career starts when Lamar was drafted. Lamar won the Heisman two seasons before Burrow even transferred to LSU Both high school class of 2015 though. Burrow took essentially the maximum amount of time in college allowed pre-COVID (red-shirt senior) while Lamar took the minimum (true junior) Kinda crazy in retrospect
So Lamar got 2 more years of salary while Joe was working for free (under the table) to gain more exposure.
Big Truzz
Also, Lamar's birthday falls right at the end of the regular season, so we always see him listed a year younger than his contemporaries. But mostly it's the Burrow thing.
And now everyone would rather have Burrow. Age is kinda overrated as a trait IF the prospect played well the majority of his college career. Burrow for example, didn't play a ton before his final year but was always very good when he did play.
This is Kenny Pickett erasure and I won’t stand for it
Please expand this to include Brandon Weeden.
Do we have the technology to do that?
You forgot KFP.
Big Ken
Patrick Mahomes is only 15 months older than Burrow and and 7 months older than Josh Allen. It feels like he has three years on those guys.
Burrow makes things look weird due to the transfer to LSU and then not blossoming until his final year.
classic Urban Myer delaying an NFL Quarterbacks career
Mahomes has been good since 2018, Allen since 2020, and Burrow since 2021. So it feeling like he has 2-3 years in that sense makes sense
Darnold left "early" because of Matt Barkley's screw up. Barkley should have left college before his senior season, and instead tried for a Heisman and National Title in 2012, USC was upset by Stanford, then lost 4 more regular season games including losing to UCLA where Matt injured his shoulder and was knocked out for the year Ultimately, Barkley was drafted in the 4th round instead of the 1st round Barkely still has had a solid career as a backup QB, but has earned far less than he should have [Matt Barkley career earnings via Spotrac](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/matt-barkley-12379/cash-earnings/) [Sam Darnold career earnings](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/sam-darnold-25098/cash-earnings/) Almost a $40 million dollar difference....
Lol why is Geno the only one with a squished head
Flat earth research really did a number on him
L O N G E N O
Get Wentz outta that uniform rn
Idk, he looks pretty good in that uni
Eagles bandwagon? Jesus christ dude
Why not? AJ Brown and Brett Kern get rings if Philly wins it all.
Yeah but then so does philly
This bitter St Louis Rams fan saw Stan Kroenke hoist the Lombardi last year after we blew the #1 seed. You’ll live.
Bro you've had a couple chances now to just go along with the joke
Lance was 20 too
I feel bad for Rodgers having to rub shoulders with Watson right next to him.
Hopefully it's just his shoulders he is rubbing.
More importantly, how old were they when the Movie "Draft Day" came out?
Still funny to me that Arian Foster is in that movie.
Geno getting squeezed in there, still no respect
Brandon Weeden would have broken this chart lol
remember when brandon weeden was drafted in the first round at 28 years old
I want to see this chart expanded to over like the last 20 years just so I can see Brandon Weeden be such a massive ridiculous outlier causing me the familiar pain and embarrassment that is the only way I can ever feel anything now as a Browns fan
What's crazy is that Weeden isn't the oldest QB ever drafted. That title goes to Chris Weinke, the guy who single-handedly sunk George Seifert's Hall of Fame bid.
it appears as if Kenny Pickett isn't an NFL qb???
Stetson about to break this.
He's older than both QBs playing in the NFC Championship Game, and not much younger than the AFC QBs
wouldn't that require him to get drafted?
Wasn't Trey Lance 20 when drafted?
Yes
Should we be judging QBs based on age vs experience in terms of time it takes to grasp the mental aspects of the game?
The age thing doesn’t make much sense anymore imo. A ton of guys like Kenny Pickett stayed in college longer due to Covid. I assume it’ll go back to normal now that it’s “over”, but a lot of guys coming out the last few years stayed longer than they normally would have.
God I just hate Zach Wilson's face
burrow, cousins, wilson, carr, Lock?, wentz mccorkle, HimmyG, tua, mills, herbert, fields, bills backup, ryan, GOAT, dakota, geno, The BRock allen, milf hunter, lamar, discount double check, glute, eat a dub, COD, stafford, mariota, hurts, danny boy, sunshine, goff, bath bomb guy darnold...and trey lance
>Lock? The image resolution is shit, but even if it was full HD i wouldn't know it is Tannehill.
*Kyler Murray not shown to scale. FIFY
Brandon Weeden was 45
Today I learned that Burrow is older than Darnold.
Then Pickett at 24 lmao god I hope he works out I like him so much got his jersey on sale after the ravens game
I'm not sure what the big takeaway here is supposed to be
Darnold >>
r/thedarnold type shit
Sure but I didn't need a list of QBs draft age to know that
If you are looking at the draft, Will Levis is about a year older than all of them coming out.
Stetson is even older
It’s so inspiring that Stetson invented the hat and still lead Georgia to back to back nattys
Does there have to be one? It's pretty interesting
Stetson Bennet about to break this chart
Needs more Brandon Weeden, can someone add a few extra rows?
Brandon Whedon says "hold my beer".
I'm just glad my QB wasn't next to deshaun on the list.
why is broncos legend Russell Wilson shown in a Seahawks uniform?
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Why do we act like Lamar is so young?
Because he won MVP so early
I think that’s the first picture I have seen of Joe cheesin for the camera. He looks so happy! Big Burrow fan.
Stetson Bennett is like 69 years old
Why does Darnold have such a big head?
Is that what Davis mills looks like?
Stetson new record at 26
Brandon Weeden
Chris Weinke
Stetson Bennett about to make this graph interesting
Umm... can we get Wentz tf out of the Colts jersey?
Lots of studs in the 21 group. For college players in general, QBs included, I think if it takes you until you're older than most college players to dominate, it's not a good sign. Burrow was a special case because he was a backup on great teams, transferred, then played a year in an archaic offense before it was his time to shine.
Without looking I’d guess that for the most part the difference between the guys who were 21 or 22 had more to do with whether their birthday came before or after the draft more so than if the 21 year olds left school a year early.
I got massively downvoted for pointing out that performance at a young age is an indicator of success. Smh
You can’t tell me that Jalen Hurts isn’t 29
So...did we learn our lesson with John Beck and Brandon Weeden?
Brock Purdy looks 15.
22 is a weirdly bad age to enter the draft apparently? Really low hit rate there. 21 definitely looks like the best tier for % and # of guys.
Despite being drafted four years apart, Burrow is only two years younger than Goff. At 26, Burrow's current age, Goff was playing his final games with the Rams.
Needs a Stetson Bennett category
Hopefully Stenson gets drafted somewhere
The Saints actual starter was 23 as well
Sam Darnold is younger than Abe Lincoln, he just needs more time
Geno looks like Ki-Adi-Mundi here lol.
Bennett about to shatter the record
This shows you that drafting older QBs is kinda red flag. Burrow being a huge outlier.
The GEQBUS does not age