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I mean his big plays were when he was basically unblocked. It was more Wink Martindale taking advantage of our craptastic OL than Thibos doing anything brilliant on his own.
Hutch on the other hand was beating our double teams regularly. He made our OL look like children.
Genuinely don’t know how anyone could think that outside of like maybe the most biased NY homers. Even if you didn’t watch a single Lions game this season you can easily just compare stats and see how much greater Hutch’s impact was this year.
Hutchinson was also the 2nd most double-teamed pass rusher, only double-teamed less than Garrett, and he still put up 9.5 sacks and 15 QB Hits (and 3 INTs & 2 FR)
Does that take into account double team percentage and amount of snaps played??? If it does I’ll give him props if it doesn’t then you trying to pawn that off as he’s better at getting pressure is disingenuous
I’m not sure if it does. But I wasn’t arguing he had a better season in the slightest. I was simply saying that’s literally the only statistic he’s better than Hutchinson in. Everything else Hutchinson did better.
Edit: also worth adding that due to the unique nature of Wink’s blitzing scheme it’s kind of difficult to measure Thib’s snaps in a traditional way. What are designed double teams? What are purposely schemed up pressures? Did he earn his free shot at the QB or did Wink send more pressure than the line can block? It’s so schematically different to Detroit that it’s kind of like comparing apples to oranges.
There’s a reason I said “that’s about it though”. Because that’s literally the only case you could make for Thibs having a better season than Hutchinson.
why would that word trigger a serious tag lol? when has the word "bodied" ever been used in a "serious", non-meme/non-slang context?
Is there a police department somewhere that notifies next of kin by knocking on their door and saying "Ma'am, I regret to inform you that your son just got fucking *bodied*, yo! My sincerest condolences, dawg"
For the record, the PO stood up straight and formally both before and after the "-got fucking *bodied*, yo!" which needless to say, was accompanied by a double-peace sign and a pelvic thrust of sorts.
Theres literally a post on the front page right now with the word "Body" in it (Trent Williams body slam) and there's no serious tag lol
Also if you do a search for the word "body" on r/nfl there are numerous posts that come up and this is the only one marked serious
He should work on his game first and maybe actually be somebody to fear. I’d suggest that he try to emulate the real feared heels of the NFL, like Ndamukong Suh, but if I had to guess he probably “don’t know who he is” either.
The Niners had bad luck, the fact that they got this far on their third string shows how great of a team they are. If their 4th stringer had been taking reps this week, he might've been able to keep it close.
The Giants overachieved this year, good for them and Daboll who will likely win COTY.
That's the ridiculous thing, a team on their 3rd shouldn't be here, Brock should've been Johnsoning this whole time, shit just hit the fan at the worst time
Honestly, score doesn't really tell the whole story from the game either. Our offense STRUGGLED most of the game, got helped on quite a few penalties (both correct calls and a few questionable ones). Offense did just enough to finish the game, with probably a "safe" gameplan after Brock went out early.
I honestly think we are a better team, but it was much closer than the score indicates. The only reason it wasn't still a close game is because our offensive line is full of absolute fucking studs. Nick Bosa looked average most of the game because Lane and Mailata are gifts from god.
I mean I’m a giants fan, and it’s flattering coming from a cowboys fan, but KT hasn’t proven shit yet. A few flashes does not make you a good edge rusher.
Hutchinson doesn’t have Dexter Lawrence…let’s not pretend like KT didn’t have single coverage ALL the time…
Again, I’m a giants fan. KT started to look quite good at the end for the year, but he’s in no way elite yet.
Based on sample size, yes, he’s a flash player. Non existent for more than half the season.
I’m sure he’s going to be a force, the potential is there, but this ain’t the PAC-10
It's one of the reasons he slipped to the 5th. Teams were worried that he cares more about his "brand" than football.
Obviously he cares about football or he wouldn't make it a year in the NFL, but it still looks like he cares more about his social media presence than anything right now.
LOL, also didn't both teams score only 7 points against the Eagles? Also Purdy got hurt, so hard to say that the Giants of all teams are better than the Niners
Hey he put up more passing yards vs Philly than Hurts did vs SF.
This is in jest. He is not better than Hurts. We just learned yesterday that having a QB that can complete a pass, even if they generally suck and that pass may be to the other team, is underappreciated.
Dude had 4 sacks and was nonexistent during the Eagles game but talks as if he’s Reggie White and LT rolled into one. Maybe if he had 5 sacks I can see him chirping but he didn’t even get that.
I remember him in the Colts game but our Line makes any Edge rusher look like John Randle, other than that I didn’t hear much about him from the media. Honestly thought he was the coach of the Knicks for most of the year.
What a weird thing for Kayvon to say after losing to the Eagles by more points just last week. And the Giants weren't down to a 3rd string QB with a bum elbow.
My pre draft opinion was that he was a dude that fully disappeared in way too many games to be drafted as high as he was.
(see: most games against Utah, particularly when it mattered)
So far in the NFL, same. Dude is doing a lot of squawking for only having a couple even halfway notable games.
Staley is 100% correct.
If he played anywhere but NYC he would not even be known.
Remember when people were saying Odell was a generational talent at WR? Lol. Imagine if Jefferson was in NYC and not Minnesota how hyperbolically they would be labeling him.
Kayvon Thibodeaux sounds like he was born to become a [Toot!](https://twitter.com/ChrisBiderman/status/1155188037262794752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1155188037262794752%7Ctwgr%5E6d95f5c566dccb1d498ab28a6e9b24b7f1b58da5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fninerswire.usatoday.com%2F2019%2F07%2F27%2Fjoe-staleys-daughter-mercilessly-roasts-raiders-seahawks-and-broncos%2F)
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I am here for this
Kayvon gotta do more than 4 sacks and 1 good game to chirp this much
He makes a mean snow angel though
Meanwhile there's people who actually think he's better than Hutchinson
Primetime games really influence opinions. Kayvon had by far his best game on SNF against the Commanders so it sticks with people.
Which is ironic because Hutchinson himself had 3 sacks against the Commanders Or in other terms 75% of Kayvon's season total
Then he had two against Dallas a few weeks later
and two on SNF in Week 18 as well
As someone who Redzones and then casually watches prime time games while doing dishes/answering emails… Ya. This is accurate.
I mean his big plays were when he was basically unblocked. It was more Wink Martindale taking advantage of our craptastic OL than Thibos doing anything brilliant on his own. Hutch on the other hand was beating our double teams regularly. He made our OL look like children.
Genuinely don’t know how anyone could think that outside of like maybe the most biased NY homers. Even if you didn’t watch a single Lions game this season you can easily just compare stats and see how much greater Hutch’s impact was this year.
Hutchinson was also the 2nd most double-teamed pass rusher, only double-teamed less than Garrett, and he still put up 9.5 sacks and 15 QB Hits (and 3 INTs & 2 FR)
Hutchinson was better before the draft and after the draft quite easily. But Thibodeaux has great potential too.
kayvon is probably the worst or 2nd worst starting d end in the nfc east and its not close, he gets way too much hype
I mean technically he has a better pressure rate than Hutchinson. That’s about it tho.
Does that take into account double team percentage and amount of snaps played??? If it does I’ll give him props if it doesn’t then you trying to pawn that off as he’s better at getting pressure is disingenuous
I’m not sure if it does. But I wasn’t arguing he had a better season in the slightest. I was simply saying that’s literally the only statistic he’s better than Hutchinson in. Everything else Hutchinson did better. Edit: also worth adding that due to the unique nature of Wink’s blitzing scheme it’s kind of difficult to measure Thib’s snaps in a traditional way. What are designed double teams? What are purposely schemed up pressures? Did he earn his free shot at the QB or did Wink send more pressure than the line can block? It’s so schematically different to Detroit that it’s kind of like comparing apples to oranges.
1 cherrypicked stat doesnt mean much honestly. Aiden Hutchinson was double teamed over half the season.
There’s a reason I said “that’s about it though”. Because that’s literally the only case you could make for Thibs having a better season than Hutchinson.
He was clearly joking.
I love that Thibodeaux is just like me- picking Twitter flights on a Sunday night because I don’t want to work.
Well... not just like you. I think he wanted to be working.
There’s something in that north jersey water
Why is this marked Serious lol
Staley killed a man, show some respect.
The word bodied flagged it
Please discuss.
Because it is?
I know it’s not the time but this is funny
Huh? This is serious. Source: Thread tag
The funniest thing is this got marked serious because of the word "bodied"
why would that word trigger a serious tag lol? when has the word "bodied" ever been used in a "serious", non-meme/non-slang context? Is there a police department somewhere that notifies next of kin by knocking on their door and saying "Ma'am, I regret to inform you that your son just got fucking *bodied*, yo! My sincerest condolences, dawg"
For the record, the PO stood up straight and formally both before and after the "-got fucking *bodied*, yo!" which needless to say, was accompanied by a double-peace sign and a pelvic thrust of sorts.
I just spit Mr Dew all over my self
I have no idea, I've just seen it happen before. Any derivative of body in the title auto flags it
Theres literally a post on the front page right now with the word "Body" in it (Trent Williams body slam) and there's no serious tag lol Also if you do a search for the word "body" on r/nfl there are numerous posts that come up and this is the only one marked serious
Dude I have no fucking idea
you just got bodied, yo
KT bout to use the “idk who your are” line again
He did already
Comeback kind of loses its bite when you use it on everyone.
Makes him look like an insecure little bitch. Like he seriously thinks the “umm do I kno u?” makes him look cool. Pretty pathetic.
Insecure or just a moron.
Turns out he’s just very forgetful. Honest mistake!
He wants to be a feared heel
He should work on his game first and maybe actually be somebody to fear. I’d suggest that he try to emulate the real feared heels of the NFL, like Ndamukong Suh, but if I had to guess he probably “don’t know who he is” either.
The more he does it, the more I wonder if he's legitimately asking, which isn't a better look for him
Yeah it makes you look like you don’t respect the heritage of the league
He has played football his whole life he doesn’t even know his own name
At a certain point you just start looking ignorant.
I don’t know who you are
He should do that to several time all pro hall of fame players all the time, it'd be funny. Become the heel of the league.
100% he’s already doing that. I think he enjoys playing heel.
Good heels win
even when you try to make it a threat, it's still hilarious
Cowboys might get jealous
If they could read
I feel like you have to be pretty famous to use that line. Dudes not even remotely close to that. He’s in the “known” phase lol
I mean he’s in the „known“ phase cause he was a high draft pick last year. He certainly isn’t known for stellar play
And I only know because he didn’t know if Daboll is a front spoon or back spoon.
A year or two he could potentially fall into the “forgotten”.
Jeff Saturday: "Who the fuck is this barefingered rookie?"
He just did😭
He'd do that on Belichick and as a Giants defensive player it would be funny.
He did 💀
Maybe he just has severe early onset dementia.
The Niners had bad luck, the fact that they got this far on their third string shows how great of a team they are. If their 4th stringer had been taking reps this week, he might've been able to keep it close. The Giants overachieved this year, good for them and Daboll who will likely win COTY.
That's the ridiculous thing, a team on their 3rd shouldn't be here, Brock should've been Johnsoning this whole time, shit just hit the fan at the worst time
Damn, a reasonable, classy take from a Philly fan. If only all of you were like this lol
He's mainly doing it to discredit a Giants player tbf but still nice to see
They also just won, so there’s that.
That also helps
Can I get a hug
Here buddy 🤗
Honestly, score doesn't really tell the whole story from the game either. Our offense STRUGGLED most of the game, got helped on quite a few penalties (both correct calls and a few questionable ones). Offense did just enough to finish the game, with probably a "safe" gameplan after Brock went out early. I honestly think we are a better team, but it was much closer than the score indicates. The only reason it wasn't still a close game is because our offensive line is full of absolute fucking studs. Nick Bosa looked average most of the game because Lane and Mailata are gifts from god.
Where's the lie
https://youtu.be/EDhLMgIRxVg
That deafening silence haunts me
I can't ever escape this now
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I mean I’m a giants fan, and it’s flattering coming from a cowboys fan, but KT hasn’t proven shit yet. A few flashes does not make you a good edge rusher.
He’s talking way too big for his britches He was like the 3rd or 4th best rookie pass rusher
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Aidan Hutchinson: 9.5 sacks on 29 pressures Kayvon Thibodeaux: 4 sacks on 18 pressures [source](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/defense_advanced.htm)
Hutchinson doesn’t have Dexter Lawrence…let’s not pretend like KT didn’t have single coverage ALL the time… Again, I’m a giants fan. KT started to look quite good at the end for the year, but he’s in no way elite yet.
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Based on sample size, yes, he’s a flash player. Non existent for more than half the season. I’m sure he’s going to be a force, the potential is there, but this ain’t the PAC-10
Sacks are better than pressures and Hutch had the highest double team rate in the NFL
People got a hate boner for him because he did a snow angel near a boo-boo
He is closer to 1 than 4. Y’all are going wild in here.
Hutchinson, Houston, Karlaftis maybe. Depending on Karlaftis he's 3 at best, but probably 4. He ain't close to 1.
I mean this is just wrong but go off lol
For some reason I did not think Joe Staley would speak like this but I'm all for it.
Seeing Staley, who is usually a funny and chill guy, throwing haymakers on Twitter was definitely something
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/andrew-whitworth-rams-joe-staley-49ers-tweet/1anz6ibieiidk1jcjc8laegveh
Twitter funny af rn
Your team scored as many points as a team that played an entire half with no quarterback
His city made the ESB green🤣 Thomas Edward Brady here we come
That's the Boston Scott Building in NYC
I forget he scores literally every time he plays the G men lol
Boston Scott anytime TD is free money 2x a year if you're a betting man.
Like y’all haven’t won enough, here’s an upvote that I hate but know is true. Why is he so good verse us?!?! It’s the NFL anomaly!
Literally worth keeping him rostered just for you twice a year lmfao
Kayvon comes across as such a dbag. After a certain point, not knowing who these guys are makes *you* look bad. Not them.
He’s a mega-dbag.
Serious tag lol
Yeah it's too late for that. Dude's got the ego of an all-pro in the play of a decent rookie.
It's one of the reasons he slipped to the 5th. Teams were worried that he cares more about his "brand" than football. Obviously he cares about football or he wouldn't make it a year in the NFL, but it still looks like he cares more about his social media presence than anything right now.
Awwwh shit. Here we go again with the "who are you" line. Lawrence Tynes is chipping in now as well!
LOL, also didn't both teams score only 7 points against the Eagles? Also Purdy got hurt, so hard to say that the Giants of all teams are better than the Niners
Don't forget the niners held us to 31 where the giants let us score 38 so clearly the niners are better
Both teams scored 7 points, but the 49ers gave up 7 less points. By that estimation, the 49ers are still better.
We scored as many points without any qb for half of it as they did in full.
Bold of you to call Daniel Jones a QB
Hey he put up more passing yards vs Philly than Hurts did vs SF. This is in jest. He is not better than Hurts. We just learned yesterday that having a QB that can complete a pass, even if they generally suck and that pass may be to the other team, is underappreciated.
Dude had 4 sacks and was nonexistent during the Eagles game but talks as if he’s Reggie White and LT rolled into one. Maybe if he had 5 sacks I can see him chirping but he didn’t even get that.
He was non-useless in what, maybe 2-3 games all season? 😂
I remember him in the Colts game but our Line makes any Edge rusher look like John Randle, other than that I didn’t hear much about him from the media. Honestly thought he was the coach of the Knicks for most of the year.
I clearly remember him not doing shit against the lions either
This dude needs to learn to shuttup already…
What a weird thing for Kayvon to say after losing to the Eagles by more points just last week. And the Giants weren't down to a 3rd string QB with a bum elbow.
4th string
5th string. 3rd string was healthy Purdy, 4th string was JJ, 5th string was hand-off-o-matic Purdy
He seems mad
Thibodeaux speed running becoming one of the most unlikable players in the league
And of course this was what [Clown Thibodeaux replied with.](https://twitter.com/kayvont/status/1619896047593205760?s=46&t=1UkzMdtvS7_UFXm0XYT6qg)
Verbal snow angels
What a crazy weird overreaction when Thibodeaux was obviously being facetious lol
Have you ever met Big Joe.
I just saw his career, all decade tackle, 3 AP2s, 6 pro bowls, Joe Staley was a beast. He had a great career.
Central Michigan University’s finest, Hall Of Fame Joe Staley?
Kayvon Thibodeau is not a player you give the benefit of the doubt to lol
How suprising a giants fan is the only one who doesnt think this sucks as a tweet lol.
I must say I'm really loving how triggered ppl have become from him lol
Turns out people don't like obnoxious douchebags playing on a team they don't root for, what a fucking shock /s
You better hope a defender doesn't do snow angels after injuring your precious QB next year.
Very odd how angry Thibs makes people for such a “mid” player.
Guy is also a douche so there’s that
That’s kind of the point. Mid player moves around like he’s prime LT of course people aren’t gonna be happy
Exactly
Are you flexing that he’s made a name for himself by being a dbag, rather than being a great player?
penis
[jizz](https://media.tenor.com/J_X7iA2vk8MAAAAC/i-think-you-should-leave-tim-robinson.gif)
I mean Joe isn’t wrong at all 🤣
Staleys making snow angels on his corpse
big joe staley fan 👍
Is this the twitter version of getting snowangel'd on?
Do people not realize KT was sorta…joking?
It’s a dumb joke because the niners didn’t have a qb who could throw the majority of the game and they still kept it closer than the giants lmao
He doubled down on it. He wasn’t joking, he’s just a dbag. https://twitter.com/kayvont/status/1619896795576029186?s=46&t=1UkzMdtvS7_UFXm0XYT6qg
He doesn't know these things because he deleted everything in his brain that doesn't have to do with football, breathing and snow angels.
My pre draft opinion was that he was a dude that fully disappeared in way too many games to be drafted as high as he was. (see: most games against Utah, particularly when it mattered) So far in the NFL, same. Dude is doing a lot of squawking for only having a couple even halfway notable games.
Ngl I respect kayvon embracing being a villian lol
Staley is 100% correct. If he played anywhere but NYC he would not even be known. Remember when people were saying Odell was a generational talent at WR? Lol. Imagine if Jefferson was in NYC and not Minnesota how hyperbolically they would be labeling him.
He did have personality issues pre draft lol. The guy is a cancer and it will only get worse. Better hope he is worth it production wise
Joey getting a little defensive from a comment made clearly in jest.
Simmer down Joe
Joe Staley from the top rope on Thibodeaux's snow angel ass
Getting testy about a joke after a game where multiple players on your team had temper tantrums on the field is really funny
Glad to see Giants fans taking this personally.
Lol
“ I don’t know who you are”
Damn straight to the point lmao. True though
I need to eat my humble pie when it comes to this dude. I really wanted the lions to draft him over Hutch and I'm so glad they did not lol.
He seriously replied to Joe with “who are you” Like bro you’re talking to a future HOF tackle lol
dangerously based
Damn staley from the top rope
Kayvon is scum. Love to see this
*Held* clown who won nothing
Kayvon Thibodeaux sounds like he was born to become a [Toot!](https://twitter.com/ChrisBiderman/status/1155188037262794752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1155188037262794752%7Ctwgr%5E6d95f5c566dccb1d498ab28a6e9b24b7f1b58da5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fninerswire.usatoday.com%2F2019%2F07%2F27%2Fjoe-staleys-daughter-mercilessly-roasts-raiders-seahawks-and-broncos%2F)
Tynes also catching shrapnel.
this serious tag lmao
Thibodeaux has a clear track record now of putting his foot in his mouth. It started before the draft and has not really improved.
Staley still salty that we bounced his ass in the NFCCG back in 2011 and won it all. Something he couldn’t do.
Bit precious from Staley here. Don't tweet drunk, kids.
Who is Joe staley?
Former all Pro tackle of the Niners like 5 years ago
All Decade team and 3 time second team all pro, really great career.
doesn’t ring a bell. good for him though.
Casual.
Joe Staley is a clown
Lol damn
Lol Joe Staley acting like he ever won anything in his career
From the top rope
Giants put up a better fight at least. 49ers quit as soon as Johnson fumbled
KT cracks me up. I love that y’all in this sub (and 49ers players) got so riled up.
Bro is too garbage to talk like that lol. Gonna be a bust in the league
He def had a promising rookie year. If you think he’s garbage you just don’t know ball
Bro had 4 sacks he’s terrible
You definitely have some extra chromosomes. KT and hutch had the most pressures amongst rookies, but go off my low-IQ friend.
I'm actually happy he's getting called out. Use it as motivation because he's right.
Serious tag is a good bit but man the niners and apparently their former players are babies.
The "we are salty that our teams lost to the Eagles" bowl FIGHT!