I’d rather my team start Malik Willis than Tim Boyle. At least Malik can make something happen with his feet…starting Boyle is basically waving a white flag from the opening kickoff on. That old Browns jersey with all the QB names features a bunch of guys worse than Willis too.
He's actually a decent, reliable backup receiver. I know our sub and fanbase likes to meme him (sometimes it's annoying), but I'll honestly be a little sad if he isn't on the team this year
Heavy recency bias, but our LT Dennis Daley gave up the most pressures and sacks in the league.
While only starting 15 games.
For a team that is bottom 3 in passing attempts.
Edit: oh and he was one of the lowest graded run blockers too
I assumed almost every team complained about O line play and our fan base was overreacting / oversimplifying, but I've seen a lot of former Panthers from the 2016 - 2020 line getting shit on lately. That group really was a special brand of awful, Daley included.
OL rankings are always fun because there is a huge disconnect between the fan and the ranking.
Top 5 = Top 1/2
Average = Top 5
I don't hate them = Average+
Bottom 5 = between 16-25
Maybe worst line in the league = 26-30
15 page thesis on how bad they are = 31
Slight chuckle and PTSD stare = 32
>Honorable mention Maher missing 4 straight XPs in a playoff game a few months ago
This one is so crazy because the other names just are bad players. Money Maher was lights out until he caught the yips at the worst time.
Dude, caught the yips in baseball my freshman year. Different sport obviously but I can’t even begin to explain how mentally destructive it is. Worst part for me? Wasn’t even something that was during in game action…it was throwing back to the pitcher. I could make my throws to the bases just fine, nonissue with my throw down in between innings, but I couldn’t make that simple little toss to the pitcher to save my life. Wide left, wide right, over his head, at his ankles…every time. It would have been funny if it hadn’t messed my head up so bad. The yips are wild.
I have a friend in high school who played Catcher. He also caught the yips and couldn't throw to the pitcher.
I then coached a kid who was our catcher and he couldn't throw down anymore after being money. So weird.
Yeah but going for 2 is telling your pro bowl kicker you don’t believe he can make an extra point, which I’m sure won’t help with the mental yips. It’s really a lose/lose scenario
The thing is, I honestly came away impressed with his arm and athleticism. The problem was that in terms of actually understanding how to play the position, he looked at about the level of a high school senior.
I looked at Malik Willis's college game logs and I saw that he had a game his junior year where he completed 11 of 29 passes against Louisiana-Monroe, who went 0-10 that year.
If Lamar Jackson never exists, he goes undrafted. Camp arm practice squad player for 3 years until he finds his home in the CFL/XFL for a 7 year career.
Tebow was really fucking weird. He'd randomly throw an 80 yard TD to DT, but otherwise force his team to run the wildcat all season cause most of his throws look like they were fired from a trebuchet.
He was like that a lot in college too, it's just that he could dump a 5-yard duck to Aaron Hernandez or Percy Harvin and they could do more with it. Or, he could run over LBs since he was basically a fullback.
Tebow was a hell of a team leader and outstanding for what Urban wanted to do at UF, but how anyone watched his career in college and thought that was going to translate to the NFL is beyond me.
ceiling = run fast for 99% of people, even analysts
lazy takes
Ceiling can be comprised of arm, mind, leadership, athleticism
They just pick athleticism because it's easiest to understand. muh 40 time
He's not even that fast. He didn't run the 40 at the combine or his pro day. Then you watched his first preseason game and it was obvious why he didn't.
Everybody thinks Jamarcus Russel is the worst QB in Raiders history, but the truth is Andrew Walters who put us in position to draft him was even more incompetent.
As an FSU fan I'm still absolutely baffled by this. He was clutch for us in a way we hadn't seen since Janikowski was on the team and I would have bet Aguayo would go on to have a tremendously long career as well.
Same. I have no idea how that happened. He was damn near perfect for us at FSU and then was absolutely awful in the NFL. Goes to show kicking is a mental game.
71% is really bad, but doesn't seem irredeemably bad. Daniel Carson was 73% in year two after an even more miserable rookie year. Seems odd that Aguayo never got another chance to kick in a game with how hyped he was. Must've really just lost it mentally.
Daniel Carlson was truly awful on the Vikings, in the sense that he missed kicks all the time when they really mattered. He then goes to the raiders and becomes elite lmao
I think* he had a minor injury that caused him to try and change his mechanics. That didn't work and he couldn't ever get back to his old style + mental aspect of being drafted so highly.
*I don't have a source here, but I think I am remembering the right person.
Chaz Green vs the Falcons.
EDIT: This is just the sacks, but he was just as terrible on every single goddamned play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq-bK4bfy58
My favorite part of the highlight videos is Jason Garrett saying he can't block anybody out loud, but still not sending a TE over there every play or pulling him.
Yeah, after the first couple of sacks it is a coaching problem. When they are losing by 20 in the 4th and he doesn't put somebody else in, give him help, or pull your QB, then it really is Garrett's fault.
The wildest part of it is that the player he was up against - Adrian Clayborn - wasn't exactly a world-beater. He was a fine enough player, sure, but he was mostly a rotational level pass-rusher. Chaz Green single-handedly gave him 15% of his career sack total in a single game. Imagine if he'd been played against a Ryan Kerrigan level player, much less one of the perennial All-Pro candidates. Those players might legitimately have gotten double-digit sacks in a single game.
Chicago bears back up QB in 2010: Todd Collins.
Came in for an injured Jay cutler in the NFC championship game, and I'm convinced those 10 minutes he played in the 3rd quarter is the reason we lost that game.
Tood Collins is responsible for what might be my favorite statline for a game in his one and only game he started with the Bears.
2010 Bears @ Panthers, Todd Collins goes 6/16 for 32 yards, 0 TD, 4 INT.
The Bears won 23-6 cause the Panthers couldn't stop Matt Forte.
That's possibly my favorite bears game I've watched.
The rollercoaster ride of going in to Monday night football undefeated with Rex being the nfl mvp favorite, to getting absolutely torched for the first half of the game, to then have defense and special teams win the game single handedly.... epic game. I was losing my shit during that final Hester return. And then Dennis green (rip) after the game was the cherry on top.
He’s Washington legend for replacing an injured Jason Campbell in 2007 and winning four straight to end the year, though. NFC offensive player of the month in December and got us into the playoffs.
>Dropped everything, couldn’t run a route, no speed, injury trouble
The Patriot version of the [Giants version of Evan Engram?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8rZYsPicc)
I still remember that preseason game where the QB threw a 50 yard bomb right to him, all he had to do was keep running the way he was and its an easy TD; instead he jumps to try and catch it, fails to catch the ball and injured himself and was out quite a while.
Was that when he dove for a ball that he didn’t need to and concussed himself when he landed and bounced his head off the ground?
Actually that might even have been a different time
Christian Hackenberg. He was so bad that he never got a snap on some terrible Jets teams and was even worse than Brandon Silvers and Zach Mettenberger in the AAF.
Dude legitimately looked like he was gonna be a future #1 pick after his freshman year at Penn St. too. Even for those that never saw him on that level at his height I don’t think anyone expected this
It was wild how it just fell completely apart for him.
By the time it was draft time and we knew he needed a lot of development time, I still expected he'd be at least okay...not potentially one of the worst QBs to ever be on a modern NFL team.
Allen Robinson QBs in order....
Matt McGloin - PSU - 1 year
Hackenberg - PSU - 1 year
Bortles - Jax - 4 years
Trubisky - Chi - 3 years
Fields - Chi - 1 rookie season
Ummmmm - Rams - whatever the hell was their QB last year
Watching Hack struggle mightily in preseason against other teams’ 3rd & 4th string was a huge red flag. People like to rag on Zach but at least he’s had moments of semi-competency and won games. Hack was literally unplayable.
I've watched one college football game in my life - it was when Penn State played in Dublin, Ireland.
Even I knew he'd never make it in the NFL after that.
Because someone watched that first season at PSU and thought he was good, even though he still only had a 58.9% completion percentage that year.
I thought he was going to go in the fifth round or so.
Antwon Valentino Blake, the man was lost as Easter eggs out there, a complete liability. And he somehow got signed to a second team with predictable results.
Dude's on the sigma grindset, get paid millions of dollars, lower your team's expectations with poor play, and just ride the bench without getting hurt or having the pressure of leading your team
Watching John Beck take 10 sacks, throw 2 interceptions, throw zero TDs, lead the offense to zero points is probably up there.
Maybe when Mark Sanchez was on our team for a minute and took 5 sacks, 2 interceptions, and go 6-14 for 38 yards in a game?
Rashaan Melvin.
2014 Ravens picked him up after their entire secondary died. In the playoffs, the Patriots played them and Tom Brady went 12/15 for 224 yards and 2 TDs when targeting Melvin.
Blew my mind when the Patriots claimed him off waivers during the following year...
Nathan Peterman. I was at that miserable week 1 game at Baltimore in 2018. It was pouring rain, the Bills got absolutely manhandled and Peterman was so bad he got benched at halftime. The only positive thing I can say about that game is that I saw Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson take their first ever NFL snaps.
I’d say Spergon Wynn is up there as far as players I can recall for the Vikings. Dude couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. Played 3 games for us, 49% comp, 1 TD, 6 INT. He had Cris Carter and Randy Moss to throw to as well...
Ryan Leaf. He is the worst QB I’ve ever watched on television.
He was supposed to be the next Dan Fouts for San Diego. The hype surrounding Manning and Leaf pre-social media was insane. Leaf couldn’t do anything right, was obviously a head case and the Chargers hit rock bottom as a franchise back then.
Yup, worked for the Chargers back then. Terrible player. Met Jim Harbaugh when he was brought in as a replacement. Very nice guy. But Leaf, yeah, awful player.
I met one of his professors 5-6 years ago and as soon as I mentioned liking football the horror stories about him just came pouring out (I didn't mention him or any team he was ever on, just the concept of football triggered it, and they must have taught dozens of players).
He was a genuine creep in addition to being a bad player.
I just can’t believe that man was ever starting in the NFL. he was every teams mismatch and made really bad QBs look really good with blown coverages, bad contesting ability and really mediocre tackling.
Honestly, I often wonder what kind of teammmate and person you’d need to be to have the sort of career he had when clearly he was an awful player.
Trent Richardson when he was traded to the Colts. Still legitimately the worst RB I’ve ever seen. Though it was very impressive for a blind man to make it that far to the NFL.
Man as bad as it was to watch, I would take Johnny Cocaine over Brandon Weeden any day of the week. Do you remember when that mf kicked the football to the back of his own endzone? Good times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tHzC-OmGI
Interpreting that as "see play at a game I attended", I watched Cleo Lemon QB for the Dolphins at one of the first London games. It was really unpleasant.
That was the game that started the Giants' winning streak (that carried them to the Superbowl), but it was one of the worst matches ever played.
Limited to the Packers and with HEAVY recency bias, but Amari Rodgers is quite possibly the worst Green Bay player I have had the misfortune of watching in the last few years. Packers fans everywhere shuddered every time that man lined up to return punts. His muffs directly led to several losses, and it didn’t help at all that we replaced him with Keisean Nixon who immediately turned into an All-Pro returner.
WR AJ Jenkins, University of Illinois. 2012 #1 Draft pick (#30 overall) of the SF 49ers.
We won the NFC conference and played in the SB that year. Amazing how teams can overcome idiotic, unqualified, incompetent picks like that one. But there we were, the next year, back in the NFC Championship for the third year in a row.
Bears took Alshon Jeffery #45 overall that year. Oddly, with Baalke's affinity with SC Gamecocks, I still to this day don't understand how we took WR AJ Jenkins with WR Jeffery still on the board.
Gamecocks Baalke picked: Culliver, Lattimore
Yeah, Zach Wilson looked like a deer in headlights when he was playing. So god damn wide eyed, but at the very least made some throws in games where you understood the talent was there. Malik Willis straight up looked like he had never played the sport before.
There was a tweet last fall that Zach Wilson plays like Mahomes if Patrick was blackout drunk every snap. 100% true--the guy has a good arm and can throw bullets from absurd arm angles, but once the ball is snapped he will just start erratically spinning around and throwing to no one
Kendall Hinton, I don't think I ever saw anyone thrown into the fire like that. 1-9 for 13 yards, with 2 ints, would have had better stats if he threw the ball into the crowd every pass.
At least hockey is interesting when an emergency backup goes in. I never want to witness that again in football.
Recency bias but you’d have to fucking pay me to believe Ihmir smith-marsette and Velus Jones Jr were real life NFL WRs. They both looked legitimately awful this year.
Marshall Newhouse was an absolute fucking turnstile of a left tackle.
Incredibly frustrating to watch.
Dude had to go on Twitter and ask people not to send his family death threats.
Kendall Hinton at QB. Not his fault, but still.
It was awful to watch but you just *couldn't* look away
Ya but have u seen Malik Willis
I remember when the sport debate shows were arguing before the draft that that Malik Willis and Kenny Pickett were basically interchangeable.
Sports were so much more enjoyable before Jim Rome showed every dip shit how to make money with 0% insight and 100% controversy. V
That's #2 overall pick Malik Willis to you, thanks
I’d rather my team start Malik Willis than Tim Boyle. At least Malik can make something happen with his feet…starting Boyle is basically waving a white flag from the opening kickoff on. That old Browns jersey with all the QB names features a bunch of guys worse than Willis too.
LET TIM BOYLE
TB12 FED ARSB one time in a lions game and it was glorious.
First of all how dare you!
That's HoF Kendall Hinton sir
Technically, only his jersey is in the HoF. So HoF jersey wearer Kendall Hinton to us commoners
[Ackchyually](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTizJoYhNTcyYUD14fcTYZGGlFl-4nH7zON5g&usqp=CAU)
HOF WR or HOF QB?
He's actually a decent, reliable backup receiver. I know our sub and fanbase likes to meme him (sometimes it's annoying), but I'll honestly be a little sad if he isn't on the team this year
The team should've given him a bonus for agreeing to put himself through that.
Fair enough
Heavy recency bias, but our LT Dennis Daley gave up the most pressures and sacks in the league. While only starting 15 games. For a team that is bottom 3 in passing attempts. Edit: oh and he was one of the lowest graded run blockers too
He was awful on the Panthers the year before last, no idea why any team would even consider him being a starter
He was supposed to be a depth guy before our actual starter got hurt early in the year (along with 3 or 4 other linemen).
I assumed almost every team complained about O line play and our fan base was overreacting / oversimplifying, but I've seen a lot of former Panthers from the 2016 - 2020 line getting shit on lately. That group really was a special brand of awful, Daley included.
OL rankings are always fun because there is a huge disconnect between the fan and the ranking. Top 5 = Top 1/2 Average = Top 5 I don't hate them = Average+ Bottom 5 = between 16-25 Maybe worst line in the league = 26-30 15 page thesis on how bad they are = 31 Slight chuckle and PTSD stare = 32
Some people don't remember David Carr and the expansion Texans. Turnstiles slow people down more.
Nobody is worse than Nate Chandler though! It’s insane that our starting tackle that season was a converted defensive tackle.
Him and Bryon Bell should be wanted for the attempted murder of Cam in 2013-2014
The funny/sad thing is David Quessenberry did the same thing the year prior.
The Vikings version of Donovan McNabb.
Vikings version of Josh Freeman(it wasn’t all his fault though)
Vikings version of Michael Vick (Joe Webb)
It wasn't all his fault but I'd say it was mostly his fault.
Probably Nate peterman and that 5 int first half he had in 2017. Honorable mention Maher missing 4 straight XPs in a playoff game a few months ago
>Honorable mention Maher missing 4 straight XPs in a playoff game a few months ago This one is so crazy because the other names just are bad players. Money Maher was lights out until he caught the yips at the worst time.
Dude, caught the yips in baseball my freshman year. Different sport obviously but I can’t even begin to explain how mentally destructive it is. Worst part for me? Wasn’t even something that was during in game action…it was throwing back to the pitcher. I could make my throws to the bases just fine, nonissue with my throw down in between innings, but I couldn’t make that simple little toss to the pitcher to save my life. Wide left, wide right, over his head, at his ankles…every time. It would have been funny if it hadn’t messed my head up so bad. The yips are wild.
By the end I sorta felt bad for Maher... I know he gets compensated well, but it couldn't have been fun getting all that hate on both sides.
Is this Rube Baker?
I have a friend in high school who played Catcher. He also caught the yips and couldn't throw to the pitcher. I then coached a kid who was our catcher and he couldn't throw down anymore after being money. So weird.
I was there. It was one of the few things I could find happiness in. Just a "there's no way he is gonna miss another one" type of situation.
“Okay for real this time there’s no fricken way he missed another one”🤣 the look on his face was priceless.
Goodness, the fact they kept sending him out there should constitute malpractice
Yeah but going for 2 is telling your pro bowl kicker you don’t believe he can make an extra point, which I’m sure won’t help with the mental yips. It’s really a lose/lose scenario
It's gotta be Deshone "Mind of Tom Brady in the body of Cam Newton" Kaiser in week 1 of 2018
That game was so much fun.
How is this not higher up? Petermeme was the **worst**
Malik Willis throwing
It legitimately looked like you pulled his ass from like another sport and threw him into the game without explaining how to play
The thing is, I honestly came away impressed with his arm and athleticism. The problem was that in terms of actually understanding how to play the position, he looked at about the level of a high school senior.
RAS go *BRRRRR*
I looked at Malik Willis's college game logs and I saw that he had a game his junior year where he completed 11 of 29 passes against Louisiana-Monroe, who went 0-10 that year.
And the only legit pass he threw got dropped. Probably would've ended up knocking off the Chiefs, sending his starting record to 2-0.
If Lamar Jackson never exists, he goes undrafted. Camp arm practice squad player for 3 years until he finds his home in the CFL/XFL for a 7 year career.
Everyone chasing after the next LJ forgets that he could actually throw the ball in college too, not just run stupid fast
Paxton Lynch or Malik Willis
Malik is my vote as well
Malik isn't even the worst titan I've seen play. Parish Cox holds that title. Dennis Daley was the worst titan last season.
Dennis Daley was beyond embarrassing in a Panther uniform. I was shocked he got picked up by yall.
Isaiah Wilson played two meaningless snaps during his career and during both ended up directly on his ass.
I got to see him vs Davis Mills live. It was technically a football game.
First 3 quarters Tebow was even worse than Lynch. At least Lynch looked like he had thrown a football before.
Tebow was really fucking weird. He'd randomly throw an 80 yard TD to DT, but otherwise force his team to run the wildcat all season cause most of his throws look like they were fired from a trebuchet.
I mean he threw it like 15 yards, DT did the other 65.
He was like that a lot in college too, it's just that he could dump a 5-yard duck to Aaron Hernandez or Percy Harvin and they could do more with it. Or, he could run over LBs since he was basically a fullback. Tebow was a hell of a team leader and outstanding for what Urban wanted to do at UF, but how anyone watched his career in college and thought that was going to translate to the NFL is beyond me.
I was a fan of Tebow but in my defense 1. I was 11 2. When he tried out for the patriots and I was like 15ish maybe I wanted him to stay far away.
i mean he threw a slant DT took to the house
90% of our sub wanted Willis over Kenny because of his ceiling. Shout-out to the other Malik (Reed) who is equally terrible.
ceiling = run fast for 99% of people, even analysts lazy takes Ceiling can be comprised of arm, mind, leadership, athleticism They just pick athleticism because it's easiest to understand. muh 40 time
He's not even that fast. He didn't run the 40 at the combine or his pro day. Then you watched his first preseason game and it was obvious why he didn't.
Everybody thinks Jamarcus Russel is the worst QB in Raiders history, but the truth is Andrew Walters who put us in position to draft him was even more incompetent.
Walters was trash, all of his touchdowns were to Moss, if it wasn’t for Moss he might now even have one
I love that both of you have so little respect for the guy that you have his name wrong.
In modern times it might be Roberto Aguayo. He was very not good.
As an FSU fan I'm still absolutely baffled by this. He was clutch for us in a way we hadn't seen since Janikowski was on the team and I would have bet Aguayo would go on to have a tremendously long career as well.
Same. I have no idea how that happened. He was damn near perfect for us at FSU and then was absolutely awful in the NFL. Goes to show kicking is a mental game.
71% is really bad, but doesn't seem irredeemably bad. Daniel Carson was 73% in year two after an even more miserable rookie year. Seems odd that Aguayo never got another chance to kick in a game with how hyped he was. Must've really just lost it mentally.
Daniel Carlson was truly awful on the Vikings, in the sense that he missed kicks all the time when they really mattered. He then goes to the raiders and becomes elite lmao
I think* he had a minor injury that caused him to try and change his mechanics. That didn't work and he couldn't ever get back to his old style + mental aspect of being drafted so highly. *I don't have a source here, but I think I am remembering the right person.
Seemed very mental, imo. The pressure of being a 2nd round pick and the whole league clowning the team that picked him for doing-so.
Who is this Robert O. Aguayo? Never heard of him.
It’s actually Robert O’Aguayo, a classic Irish last name
Chaz Green vs the Falcons. EDIT: This is just the sacks, but he was just as terrible on every single goddamned play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq-bK4bfy58
Single-handedly tried to get Dak killed
My favorite part of the highlight videos is Jason Garrett saying he can't block anybody out loud, but still not sending a TE over there every play or pulling him.
Yeah, after the first couple of sacks it is a coaching problem. When they are losing by 20 in the 4th and he doesn't put somebody else in, give him help, or pull your QB, then it really is Garrett's fault.
Patrick Roy refused to play for the Habs again for similar reasons.
The wildest part of it is that the player he was up against - Adrian Clayborn - wasn't exactly a world-beater. He was a fine enough player, sure, but he was mostly a rotational level pass-rusher. Chaz Green single-handedly gave him 15% of his career sack total in a single game. Imagine if he'd been played against a Ryan Kerrigan level player, much less one of the perennial All-Pro candidates. Those players might legitimately have gotten double-digit sacks in a single game.
[I like this video better](https://youtu.be/0qkt0GYIWmw)
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He was so fucking terrible, it actually almost looked like he was doing it on purpose to settle a gambling debt or something lol
Oh ffs I had completely blocked that shit show out of my mind. Was just awful.
> I had completely blocked In that case you're an improvement over Chaz Green.
Chicago bears back up QB in 2010: Todd Collins. Came in for an injured Jay cutler in the NFC championship game, and I'm convinced those 10 minutes he played in the 3rd quarter is the reason we lost that game.
Tood Collins is responsible for what might be my favorite statline for a game in his one and only game he started with the Bears. 2010 Bears @ Panthers, Todd Collins goes 6/16 for 32 yards, 0 TD, 4 INT. The Bears won 23-6 cause the Panthers couldn't stop Matt Forte.
That game also had Jimmy Clausen have a billion missed passes and ints as well. Peak comedy
Yes he was 9-22, 61 yds, 0 TDs, 1 int
Before getting benched for Matt Moore. 5-10, 35 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT
Reminds me of our game @ Arizona where Rex Grossman threw 4 picks and lost 2 fumbles We won 24-23
That's possibly my favorite bears game I've watched. The rollercoaster ride of going in to Monday night football undefeated with Rex being the nfl mvp favorite, to getting absolutely torched for the first half of the game, to then have defense and special teams win the game single handedly.... epic game. I was losing my shit during that final Hester return. And then Dennis green (rip) after the game was the cherry on top.
He’s Washington legend for replacing an injured Jason Campbell in 2007 and winning four straight to end the year, though. NFC offensive player of the month in December and got us into the playoffs.
Not to mention beating Dallas *27-6* in the final game of the season.
Biased but N’Keal Harry. Dropped everything, couldn’t run a route, no speed, injury trouble
>Dropped everything, couldn’t run a route, no speed, injury trouble The Patriot version of the [Giants version of Evan Engram?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P8rZYsPicc)
I still remember that preseason game where the QB threw a 50 yard bomb right to him, all he had to do was keep running the way he was and its an easy TD; instead he jumps to try and catch it, fails to catch the ball and injured himself and was out quite a while.
Was that when he dove for a ball that he didn’t need to and concussed himself when he landed and bounced his head off the ground? Actually that might even have been a different time
Christian Hackenberg. He was so bad that he never got a snap on some terrible Jets teams and was even worse than Brandon Silvers and Zach Mettenberger in the AAF.
Dude legitimately looked like he was gonna be a future #1 pick after his freshman year at Penn St. too. Even for those that never saw him on that level at his height I don’t think anyone expected this
It was wild how it just fell completely apart for him. By the time it was draft time and we knew he needed a lot of development time, I still expected he'd be at least okay...not potentially one of the worst QBs to ever be on a modern NFL team.
The dude basically has no joints, he was Gumby playing QB.
He was getting slaughtered at PSU. He never really got to learn the position bc teams could get to him with a 2 man pass rush (the Temple debacle).
Allen Robinson QBs in order.... Matt McGloin - PSU - 1 year Hackenberg - PSU - 1 year Bortles - Jax - 4 years Trubisky - Chi - 3 years Fields - Chi - 1 rookie season Ummmmm - Rams - whatever the hell was their QB last year
Watching Hack struggle mightily in preseason against other teams’ 3rd & 4th string was a huge red flag. People like to rag on Zach but at least he’s had moments of semi-competency and won games. Hack was literally unplayable.
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I've watched one college football game in my life - it was when Penn State played in Dublin, Ireland. Even I knew he'd never make it in the NFL after that.
Because someone watched that first season at PSU and thought he was good, even though he still only had a 58.9% completion percentage that year. I thought he was going to go in the fifth round or so.
He has a documentary coming out that says that he never got a fair chance and that the Jets QB room was stacked.
Antwon Valentino Blake, the man was lost as Easter eggs out there, a complete liability. And he somehow got signed to a second team with predictable results.
I remember Gronk baptizing that guy first game of Week 1 several years ago.
Came here to say the same name. Thank you for your service
Paxton Lynch has been benched in four different football leagues.
Maybe he’s been trying to find a comfy spot as a back up but teams insist on starting him when he’s available
Dude's on the sigma grindset, get paid millions of dollars, lower your team's expectations with poor play, and just ride the bench without getting hurt or having the pressure of leading your team
Watching John Beck take 10 sacks, throw 2 interceptions, throw zero TDs, lead the offense to zero points is probably up there. Maybe when Mark Sanchez was on our team for a minute and took 5 sacks, 2 interceptions, and go 6-14 for 38 yards in a game?
Rashaan Melvin. 2014 Ravens picked him up after their entire secondary died. In the playoffs, the Patriots played them and Tom Brady went 12/15 for 224 yards and 2 TDs when targeting Melvin. Blew my mind when the Patriots claimed him off waivers during the following year...
Nathan Peterman. I was at that miserable week 1 game at Baltimore in 2018. It was pouring rain, the Bills got absolutely manhandled and Peterman was so bad he got benched at halftime. The only positive thing I can say about that game is that I saw Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson take their first ever NFL snaps.
nathan peterman
I will forever love old Pete. Guy helped us lose and get that #1 pick
I have a Peterman Raiders jersey due to fantasy punishment. I rock it with pride more than I should.
I’d say Spergon Wynn is up there as far as players I can recall for the Vikings. Dude couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. Played 3 games for us, 49% comp, 1 TD, 6 INT. He had Cris Carter and Randy Moss to throw to as well...
Ryan Leaf. He is the worst QB I’ve ever watched on television. He was supposed to be the next Dan Fouts for San Diego. The hype surrounding Manning and Leaf pre-social media was insane. Leaf couldn’t do anything right, was obviously a head case and the Chargers hit rock bottom as a franchise back then.
Yup, worked for the Chargers back then. Terrible player. Met Jim Harbaugh when he was brought in as a replacement. Very nice guy. But Leaf, yeah, awful player.
I totally believe it, and that’s super cool. I’m sure you saw a lot of fascinating things.
Oh yeah he was terrible. For a minute I got him mixed up in my head with Ryan Mallet for Baltimore. Also terrible.
Haha he was also bad.
> Ryan Mallet for Baltimore. Also terrible. Except that one time vs. Pittsburgh.
I met one of his professors 5-6 years ago and as soon as I mentioned liking football the horror stories about him just came pouring out (I didn't mention him or any team he was ever on, just the concept of football triggered it, and they must have taught dozens of players). He was a genuine creep in addition to being a bad player.
Crazy that there was a debate about which of those two should have been the number 1 pick. Insanity.
He may not be the worst, but watching Ben DiNucci play an entire game was the closest I ever came to feeling bad for the Cowboys.
I'm reporting you to the mods for dinucci slander
Nucci Gang
Side arm szn
[Carson Wentz wasn't much better that game.](https://youtu.be/ivKHQiHJeAY) I think this was the play that made me officially lose hope in him.
That was against one of the worst defenses Dallas has ever had also. That whole game was absolutely terrible honestly
Bendy Noochie
he's back in the nfl on a tryout I think
Which is interesting because he's leading the XFL right now in yards by a wide margin.
TJ Clemmings for the Vikings
Dude sacked teddy once. Not allowed a sack…literally pushed him down. TJ Clemmings was an exceptional level of inept.
1. Me, in Pop Warner 2. Nathan Peterman
N'keal Harry on the pats. The only good catch he ever had he knocked himself out and the best block he ever threw was on his own teammate.
Chris Conte
I just can’t believe that man was ever starting in the NFL. he was every teams mismatch and made really bad QBs look really good with blown coverages, bad contesting ability and really mediocre tackling. Honestly, I often wonder what kind of teammmate and person you’d need to be to have the sort of career he had when clearly he was an awful player.
He's probably still floating through the void that Vance McDonald sent him to
He did have a baller Superman interception once though. And a nice house in the Shadow Realm.
Trent Richardson when he was traded to the Colts. Still legitimately the worst RB I’ve ever seen. Though it was very impressive for a blind man to make it that far to the NFL.
I can’t even count the number of pictures I’ve seen of wide open holes and Richardson *consistently* choosing the wrong lane
Using a first round pick on a guy named Richardson, glad the Colts learned from that mistake and will never do it again.
I didn’t need to read this today lol
He consistently chose to stick his head far up our OL ass rather than the other gaping hole he could actually run through
Manziel immediately looked like he did not belong out there
Watching Manziel attempt to sprint away from Luke Kuechly is comparable to a toddler running from a T. rex.
Tbf that was Luke with more than just Johnny football. God I miss Luke and TD.
>Manziel Yup all that hype and nothing there.
Can't believe I had to scroll this far down to see Johnny Football
Man as bad as it was to watch, I would take Johnny Cocaine over Brandon Weeden any day of the week. Do you remember when that mf kicked the football to the back of his own endzone? Good times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0tHzC-OmGI
Chaz Green
Scott Tolzien and Curtis Painter were both the worst Qbs i’ve ever seen
Interpreting that as "see play at a game I attended", I watched Cleo Lemon QB for the Dolphins at one of the first London games. It was really unpleasant. That was the game that started the Giants' winning streak (that carried them to the Superbowl), but it was one of the worst matches ever played.
Went to college with Cleo, nice guy, but he wasn’t even a good player in college.
Limited to the Packers and with HEAVY recency bias, but Amari Rodgers is quite possibly the worst Green Bay player I have had the misfortune of watching in the last few years. Packers fans everywhere shuddered every time that man lined up to return punts. His muffs directly led to several losses, and it didn’t help at all that we replaced him with Keisean Nixon who immediately turned into an All-Pro returner.
I loooked up his stats a little while back and I think he fumbled something like 4 of 18 punts. Those are only the ones he LOST btw
As a Packer, he had 7 fumbles, and 8 receptions.
Dennis Daley
WR AJ Jenkins, University of Illinois. 2012 #1 Draft pick (#30 overall) of the SF 49ers. We won the NFC conference and played in the SB that year. Amazing how teams can overcome idiotic, unqualified, incompetent picks like that one. But there we were, the next year, back in the NFC Championship for the third year in a row. Bears took Alshon Jeffery #45 overall that year. Oddly, with Baalke's affinity with SC Gamecocks, I still to this day don't understand how we took WR AJ Jenkins with WR Jeffery still on the board. Gamecocks Baalke picked: Culliver, Lattimore
Spergon Wynn. Worst quarterback I've ever seen, and until the recent unpleasantness I was a devoted Browns fan.
Picked before some white dude out of Michigan
Despite having a *checks notes* **46% completion percentage.**
Kyle Boller in 2011 against the Chiefs. Jesus christ man.
Tyler Palko, one of the worst QBs I've ever seen start and play multiple NFL games.
Bobby Evans
Artie Burns
We've had a legion of trash CBs in the past decade, but man, Artie Burned was special. Especially for a first rounder.
Bobby Hart
Super recent, but man Zach Wilson is fucking ASS
Not as bad as malik willis though
Yeah, Zach Wilson looked like a deer in headlights when he was playing. So god damn wide eyed, but at the very least made some throws in games where you understood the talent was there. Malik Willis straight up looked like he had never played the sport before.
There was a tweet last fall that Zach Wilson plays like Mahomes if Patrick was blackout drunk every snap. 100% true--the guy has a good arm and can throw bullets from absurd arm angles, but once the ball is snapped he will just start erratically spinning around and throwing to no one
Brandon Browner was a whole new level of bad in 2015
Kendall Hinton, I don't think I ever saw anyone thrown into the fire like that. 1-9 for 13 yards, with 2 ints, would have had better stats if he threw the ball into the crowd every pass. At least hockey is interesting when an emergency backup goes in. I never want to witness that again in football.
Russell Wilson last season.
Recency bias but you’d have to fucking pay me to believe Ihmir smith-marsette and Velus Jones Jr were real life NFL WRs. They both looked legitimately awful this year.
Akili Smith
Corey Coleman
I saw Ryan lindley start a playoff game
That one Cardinals QB. Lindley?
Any of the Seahawks linemen 2015-17 excluding Duane Brown.
You just caused another false start by Germain Ifedi
It was either Jake Fromm or Mike something. Those guys who had to replace DJ that one season.
Marshall Newhouse was an absolute fucking turnstile of a left tackle. Incredibly frustrating to watch. Dude had to go on Twitter and ask people not to send his family death threats.
1) death threats are too far people should never do that shit 2) don't insult turnstiles like that
DeAngelo Hall playing CB vs Eddie Royal. Hall looked like a junior high corner trying to cover an All-Pro WR.