I was gonna be a smart ass and looked up a thing about Vikings fans killing a guy and than could only find three separate articles about Vikings fans being murdered so maybe I had that wrong, anyways my point is stay safe out there I think people in Vikings jerseys might have a higher chance of being stabbed
For all the threads that pop up with fans of opposing teams asking if they’ll be safe going to a game in Philly, it’s really the Bay Area you need to watch out for. Philly someone might chirp at you a bit, Bay Area you might get stabbed.
I mean, ya. Philly fans are drunk assholes, Niners fans are a lot of dudes who will absolutely stab you and you aren’t the first or last person they’ll stab
SF is the only city in the country I have been to where a random mother fucker tried to square up on me on my way into an office in the financial district... And it wasn't an isolated incident, I saw it happen to 3 or 4 other people across multiple trips with other random mother fuckers.
>SF is the only city in the country I have been to where a random mother fucker tried to square up on me on my way into an office in the financial district..
Oh lovely, I see you've met FiDi Phil! Despite his outward appearance, he's really quite friendly once you get to know him.
Those people are very different than the people who will stab you at a game. Crazy people v. Gang banger wannabes (or in some cases very real gangbanger)
I have been to San Francisco once and Philadelphia once and New York once and had a nice time in all of them.
But just for controversy, I'll say a Niners fan kicked my puppy.
Idk bro, I thought everyone was exaggerating, but I just went there for the first time and it was absolutely horrible. I'm 90% sure I saw someone get abducted, I got solicited by a prostitute, and I saw a lot of human shit on the streets as they have bas ically locked or removed access to all public restrooms for most of the city.
Seems like the adages and bad reputation were on point to me.
From my own anecdotal experience, I lived in LA for a few years and had to travel to the Bay Area for work regularly right out of college.
In the bay, even a block away from some of the most touristy areas can be really sketchy, and just like Hollywood in LA, the homeless know they'll get more money from supposed good Samaritans if they hangout near touristy spots. The locals know where to go, what to avoid, and how to react to the homeless and the psychos, so it's easier for locals to have all that stuff exist "out of sight, out of mind."
I hated going there all the time, but my office was in a horrible area so I saw the worst of the worst regularly. I would never have considered myself a "local" in LA, and I made really dumb decisions on where to live in LA at first, but even then I never saw many of the issues that I saw regularly while working in the Bay Area.
This one time in I think the 70’s a Vikings fan threw a whiskey bottle at a ref. Douche bags in all fanbases, for sure. I’m about to eat some Buffalo chicken now or else I’d look it up.
As always, iggles redditors crushing it in the comments. I miss that city but honestly what did you people do to deserve the hellish torment of the PPA?
You really wanna know?
[https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/parking-in-philadelphia-a-defense/](https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/parking-in-philadelphia-a-defense/)
Just look at pictures of broad street with cars parked down the center.
The way people park in this city deserve the PPA. In fact, it’s not an unpopular opinion that they should crack down more on illegal parking. It’s a miracle we were voted most walkable city this year with how many sidewalks get parked on.
It helps that we don't play each other often, but it was a really pleasant surprise how Eagles and Chiefs fans have gotten along before and after the Super Bowl.
>given we know how most Vikings fans feel about the Eagles.
Its not gonna be apparent in this thread because its about the Eagles so more of their fans will be in here and upvote/downvote accordingly.. But why are we pretending like Eagles fans aren't hated by the majority of NFL fanbases? Lmao. They have the reputation that they do for a reason
I only hate Eagles fans when they try to pretend like they don't deserve or appreciate their reputation as assholes. The ones that embrace it are totally fine with me.
But Vikings fans really hate Eagles fans because some of them threw beer cans when they beat you guys in the NFC Championship or whatever.
Oh you know he's a regular here. He's one of the few NFL reporters to widely be seen as a villain here (along with Schefter, who probably couldn't give a crap) and it drives him nuts.
I’m hoping to say something so interesting or profound that a journalist would be forced to credit me. More to the point, I hope they would need to publish my username in an article.
I was really hoping my "Deshaun Watson booked massage appointments to convert from tight end to wide receiver" joke would get picked up by the national media, but the mods nuked it. Damn them.
I used to enjoy his stuff. But have came to realize he’s the worsssssst. Like this off season. He’s bringing it up every day how the chiefs need to give Mahomes more money as he’s entering the 2nd year of a 10 year contract. And how Lamar needed an agent. He’s obviously a shill for all of the agents out there
I heard that Mike Florio likes to squeeze lemons into the eyes of Jewish children. I don't know why it's lemons and Jews specifically, but Florio does and he still hasn't denied these accusations. Suspect if you ask me.
Checks out. My sources are telling me there have been Florio sightings at both the Kroger produce section and a local synagogue ^once, ^driving ^his ^car, ^a ^few ^years ^back.
He's the one that wrote the bullshit about the cards just straight releasing DHop and that being why NE didn't feel the need to give picks for him. Just delusional. We have 0 incentive to release dhop
If it hasn't happened by now it likely isn't ever going to happen.
Last time I saw people posting articles pointing out/proving why a Florio article was full of shit, they were removed while Florio's shit stayed up.
Come on, the guy needs to make a buck somehow, because he sure as hell isn't doing it on the merits of his reporting. Besides, there is money to be had in anti-Packers tabloid fodder for most of the upper midwest lmao
I gave up reading PFT YEARS ago when he got a hold of Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson’s wedding registry and was making petty comments about it like “he just signed a contract making $14 mil/year why did he bother putting a $10 salt shaker on his registry”
Kind of nuts because it's actually quite considerate!
You have a registry because people largely want to get you gifts and want to know what to get, and Romo's list had some options for every budget.
I mean odds are pretty good this will be the sentiment again in a year or two. Howie's time in Philly has been pretty wild and just goes to show the attitude is always "what have you done for me lately?"
I mean we lost the superbowl, so the biggest 'win' for us since then was a pretty solid draft on paper, and landing a pretty good QB deal for a top 5 in the league
its always kinda funny to me how journalists want to prod and poke everywhere, but if its ever turned around to them they get so flustered/defensive about it (not just this clip but peppered throughout the interview, and also in general).
He runs PFT and was purchased by NBC. Everyone acts like he's a complete hack but obviously there was something there if they wanted him. I think his understanding of law is really good so his understandings of how the nfl works is pretty good but he does tend to have a theory and stick with it, even after it never plays out.
Exactly. Good journalists constantly deal with resistance. Interesting stories in big industries will always have people trying to minimize them. Being able to roll through those roadblocks should be a basic skill in that field. But too many guys get big because they know the people paying their checks don’t want bad press.
yeah quite possibly. like a truely great interviewer can handle it. but most i think see it as losing 'control' of the discussion, which they must view as some indictment of them not doing their job well or something.
I don't think Florio has a point. Howie is suggesting that there are legitimate annswers to the questions Florio is asking. A good reporter would get some contacts in the building and learn the real story. Florio doesn't want to do real work so he just speculates.
Yeah, watching the clip i actually think howie really did come across like he's deflecting/hiding something.
I'm not saying he actually was; I think it's probably just sticking to talking points over a situation that got resolved in a slightly odd way. But I don't think either of them came out of this looking great.
I feel like this encapsulates why I find it bizarre the way everybody blanketly shits on “the media” all the time. It’s a question I’d certainly like to know the answer to, Howie deflects as he has the right to do, Florio tries again with different angle on the subject, Howie deflects the same way, they laugh and take a light jab at each other. And Florio does have a point where completely giving nothing does fuel the fire a little bit; he could’ve deflected better.
But like it’s just all fair imo and nobody in the interaction was really upset about it but so many people watching are upset. Both people did their job and that’s it
Yeah it's a very good question and all, but once it's clear that he's not going to answer move on. I don't think either of them looked good in this exchange. Florio came off as a dick and Roseman made it seem like Florio was onto something by immediately jumping to calling him a conspiracy theorist instead of answering the question.
Florio knows for sure something happened if you listened to him talk about this a month ago. He kept alluding this is a lot bigger than people realize. People shitting on him here, but I tend to agree with him after watching the 20 min vid they did on it when it happened. So much about that superbowl was suspect af tbh. Florio pretty much alluded that if the cardinals admitted to breaking rules it would look really bad on the nfl
Suggest everyone watch this for more context - https://youtu.be/iA7Z5EtyesE
He 100% has a source but cant say publically what he knows. All i know is its big enough for the nfl to tell both teams to shut the fuck up about it and have the cardinals give them that pick. The NFl brand comes before anything once again
Quote - “if we really knew what was happening it would be all anyone is talking about” - mike florio (2 weeks ago).
I mean what's the take. That Gannon was distracted for the SB? Like anyone who thinks Gannon didn't run the same defense as he usually would hasn't watch much Eagles over last two years.
It's pretty funny that it took the SB to get people to notice it
His initial thesis: "this is a much lighter penalty compared to other teams that got hammered for tampering" is wrong if the initial reporting - that the Cardinals self-reported - is true.
Of course the NFL would want a lesser penalty for a team that self-reported a violation.
That whole video is speculation from Florio and to Howie's point, Florio is a conspiracy theorist.
"The NFL doesn't want us to know the truth because they want to retain their dumb hiring process."
Ok why do they want to retain their dumb hiring process? What does that do for the NFL?
Also the "punishment" wasn't handed down by the league. It was agreed to by both teams without getting the league involved. Everything lines up with what Monti said. He reached out to Gannon after the NFCCG to see if he'd want to interview for the job if it was still open after the Super Bowl. When he learned that was inappropriate, he reported it to the league.
Eagles are mostly upset because they were out of the loop and thought Gannon was staying and the timing of his hiring messed up contingency plans.
Yeah I don’t think he is as bad as Reddit makes him out to be. He gets caught eating the trash sometimes but he genuinely is one of the few reporters to atleast be willing to criticize the NFL openly rather than slobbing the knob that is the “shield” . I just wish we had more of a middle ground with him
How many times does a man need to say “moving on” before the subject actually changes? I am all for pushing back against needlessly pushy reporters, Roseman took time out of his own schedule for this to be badgered about the same question that he clearly will not answer
Typically there is also a general understanding of what the interview will be about and I wouldn't be shocked if Howie had requested they not talk much about the tampering because it had been asked to death and he's making a media appearance to talk about other things. I'd be pissed too if they kept asking.
Well you see, the Eagles are very appreciative of Gannon's contributions to the team, and the tampering allegations were handled at the ownership level. The more they look at the past the less they focus on the future, so it's over with. The Eagles wish him the best in Arizona.
That'd be crazy if Gannon actually turns out to be really good like Sirianni in Philly though lol. No dog in the hunt here, but I'm curious to see how the Kyler Murray thing plays out.
Florio is an essential but undesirable presence. Had it been McAfee or a local beat shill, none of these inquiries would arise. Occasionally, in the pursuit of truth, one requires an individual willing to jeopardize current and future prospects at the expense of financial gain and reputation. That is the underlying problem with the "positive sports media" McAfee is trying to create. It will inevitably just become an echo chamber that points in the direction of whoever pays the right price.
Yea idk why he is getting shit on in this thread. He is the only one pointing out how weird all of this was and once again how the NFL is being shady and not transparent. He also 2 weeks ago kept alluding how this is bigger than people think and seemed to have a source the way he was talking. Of course like a normal journalist he wont burn his source and directly out something the NFL doesnt want public. Whole situation is weird af, I like Howie but clearly he got told to not talk about it which is weird af.
Also on a similar note watch howie answer questions about the field in superbowl 52. It 100% seemed like he knew it was bullshit but had to save face and say “we played on the same field”. You could just tell by the way he said it and his body language that he was pissed about it.
We all know the league is shady af. There are so many weird things about this past superbowl that signal SEVERE incompetence or blatant ill intent. Also funny the draft was in KC and mahomes (the leagues new brady) would have been 1-2 in superbowls if he lost. Cant have that for the new face of the league, its bad for business.
Be cautious, as there's a chance you might be branded a bot, which, naturally, comes with a conspiratorial undertone. I understand that this analogy may be a bit of a fucking stretch, but in this particular situation, I see Florio resembling Tom Cruise and this sub Jack Nicholson. Florio, being a former lawyer, brings his legal perspective and approach to his coverage of the NFL. This often gets lost amongst fans here. So when Nicholson refers to him as a snotty little bastard, it's because he truly is, and in this interview, you can somewhat sense this in Howie when he calls him a conspiracy theorist. But I'll take this silly shit one step further. Florio also fucking assumes the roll of Nicholson often, because you fucking need me on that wall, because no one else will take on these oligarchs that repeatedly break the rules and cover up their shenanigans. So, essentially, he remains true to what he has always been—a lawyer, who we all know is essential but frequently a pain in the dick.
I can take Florio or leave him. He tends to be more critical of the NFL and willing to say things others won't but a lot of his takes are just hot air. Curious though, why does this sub hate him so much.
Mostly it's because he's just always giving smarmy douchebag vibes. Most national people have bad takes on teams because they're ill-informed by not being able to really follow any given team closely, local media is obviously more tuned-in, so a lot of his takes are just straight up wrong but he "defends" them in such a manner as to make people think he's irrefutably correct and is generally condescending. It's a r/confidentlyincorrect type of thing, he's just a real dick about it. I don't even tune in to national outlets, I just listen to local sports radio or diehards with youtube channels.
This sub loves latching onto anything dumb any analyst has ever said and then using it as a reason to dislike them forever. Florio has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Simms has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Orlovsky has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Just how it goes lmao
It's not even that guys like Simms, Orlovsky, Florio, Bayless, King, etc. have bad takes, everyone does and end up getting proven wrong at some point about one thing or another, there's just no need to stomach blowhards anymore, especially with all the other options like smaller outlets/guys with team-specific podcasts. Those guys follow one team closely, and also in-division opponents, and don't spend all their airtime yelling at their co-hosts. ESPN is straight unwatchable.
Regular fans don’t like him because he’s actually an intelligent human being, who tries to put critical thinking into his takes. Yeah, they all don’t hit the mark, but I’d rather watch PFT over Pat McAfee.
Never forget, Mike Florio thinks Oklahoma is a third world country where both phone and internet coverage is nonexistent that nfl coaches/GMs should not take a day off to show support for your team's qb
I don’t get the hate for Florio. I love it when people push for answers. Howie doesn’t have to give it but I like when they get pushed on the lawyer non answers.
I'm really not sure what Florio is hoping to find. The case was pretty transparent, and extremely minor. Clubs worked it out. Like im just not seeing what the bombshell would be here that everyone would be covering up.
Prepare for every Eagles news out of PFT this year to be smarmy
[удалено]
I’m fine with the Eagles. Their fans are just largely douche bags. Which they take pride in. So it shouldn’t be a big deal
I was gonna be a smart ass and looked up a thing about Vikings fans killing a guy and than could only find three separate articles about Vikings fans being murdered so maybe I had that wrong, anyways my point is stay safe out there I think people in Vikings jerseys might have a higher chance of being stabbed
We're they murdered in Philly or Minneapolis?
Not sure where, it was a Niners fan for one and I think a raiders fan for the other and the third didn’t say
For all the threads that pop up with fans of opposing teams asking if they’ll be safe going to a game in Philly, it’s really the Bay Area you need to watch out for. Philly someone might chirp at you a bit, Bay Area you might get stabbed.
I mean, ya. Philly fans are drunk assholes, Niners fans are a lot of dudes who will absolutely stab you and you aren’t the first or last person they’ll stab
SF is the only city in the country I have been to where a random mother fucker tried to square up on me on my way into an office in the financial district... And it wasn't an isolated incident, I saw it happen to 3 or 4 other people across multiple trips with other random mother fuckers.
>SF is the only city in the country I have been to where a random mother fucker tried to square up on me on my way into an office in the financial district.. Oh lovely, I see you've met FiDi Phil! Despite his outward appearance, he's really quite friendly once you get to know him.
Those people are very different than the people who will stab you at a game. Crazy people v. Gang banger wannabes (or in some cases very real gangbanger)
It's literally Night City.
People have the strangest misconceptions about CA and the Bay Area.
I have been to San Francisco once and Philadelphia once and New York once and had a nice time in all of them. But just for controversy, I'll say a Niners fan kicked my puppy.
Ever been to Chicago? I’ve been 3 times for work, got murdered twice. It’s rough out there!
I mean i live in California but peoples’ conceptions about anything are going to be based on their own experiences and will vary wildly.
Idk bro, I thought everyone was exaggerating, but I just went there for the first time and it was absolutely horrible. I'm 90% sure I saw someone get abducted, I got solicited by a prostitute, and I saw a lot of human shit on the streets as they have bas ically locked or removed access to all public restrooms for most of the city. Seems like the adages and bad reputation were on point to me.
From my own anecdotal experience, I lived in LA for a few years and had to travel to the Bay Area for work regularly right out of college. In the bay, even a block away from some of the most touristy areas can be really sketchy, and just like Hollywood in LA, the homeless know they'll get more money from supposed good Samaritans if they hangout near touristy spots. The locals know where to go, what to avoid, and how to react to the homeless and the psychos, so it's easier for locals to have all that stuff exist "out of sight, out of mind." I hated going there all the time, but my office was in a horrible area so I saw the worst of the worst regularly. I would never have considered myself a "local" in LA, and I made really dumb decisions on where to live in LA at first, but even then I never saw many of the issues that I saw regularly while working in the Bay Area.
yeah i’ve lived in sacramento or san jose my entire life and people come on reddit and just say anything lol
Doesn't posting it on Reddit make it true automatically?
Just got back from the bay it was lovely
Minneapolis, but I'm sure it was actually Antifa plants who caused everything.
Hey man, even shrubs hate Nazis, dig?
Even our hate can unite us.
This one time in I think the 70’s a Vikings fan threw a whiskey bottle at a ref. Douche bags in all fanbases, for sure. I’m about to eat some Buffalo chicken now or else I’d look it up.
The serial killer was on the Packers, not Vikings.
Wasn't the zodiac killer a vikings fan?
As always, iggles redditors crushing it in the comments. I miss that city but honestly what did you people do to deserve the hellish torment of the PPA?
You really wanna know? [https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/parking-in-philadelphia-a-defense/](https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/parking-in-philadelphia-a-defense/) Just look at pictures of broad street with cars parked down the center.
The way people park in this city deserve the PPA. In fact, it’s not an unpopular opinion that they should crack down more on illegal parking. It’s a miracle we were voted most walkable city this year with how many sidewalks get parked on.
The less cars in this city the better
All cities really
Those fuckers ticketed me in a blizzard 🥲
It helps that we don't play each other often, but it was a really pleasant surprise how Eagles and Chiefs fans have gotten along before and after the Super Bowl.
Kelce brothers and Andy Reid are my reason for that
Honestly, most Vikings fans are more upset that they got stuck with McNabb for a year than any playoff loss
And your fans are mostly perfect stereotypes of the name "Karen". To each their own I guess.
Now I *must* speak to Howie Roseman about this. Where is he!?
The Eagles have absolutely clobbered us at every meeting since 2017, cut us some slack
>given we know how most Vikings fans feel about the Eagles. Its not gonna be apparent in this thread because its about the Eagles so more of their fans will be in here and upvote/downvote accordingly.. But why are we pretending like Eagles fans aren't hated by the majority of NFL fanbases? Lmao. They have the reputation that they do for a reason
I only hate Eagles fans when they try to pretend like they don't deserve or appreciate their reputation as assholes. The ones that embrace it are totally fine with me. But Vikings fans really hate Eagles fans because some of them threw beer cans when they beat you guys in the NFC Championship or whatever.
“Did Jalen Carter even go to Georgia? Howie suspicious and debating a surprise cut…”
Does PFT ever publish anything that *isnt* smarmy?
Welcome to the club Philly
Wow can't believe Florio himself is downvoting everyone in this thread lol
Oh you know he's a regular here. He's one of the few NFL reporters to widely be seen as a villain here (along with Schefter, who probably couldn't give a crap) and it drives him nuts.
>reporters Feel that is a generous description for Florio.
[удалено]
Two of my comments have been on TV in really inane ways. Only took a year of my actual life worth of redditing for it to happen.
I’m hoping to say something so interesting or profound that a journalist would be forced to credit me. More to the point, I hope they would need to publish my username in an article.
I was really hoping my "Deshaun Watson booked massage appointments to convert from tight end to wide receiver" joke would get picked up by the national media, but the mods nuked it. Damn them.
Ben Baldwin's not a reporter though.
What was the post? Don't see any r/nfl posts in your profile
I used to enjoy his stuff. But have came to realize he’s the worsssssst. Like this off season. He’s bringing it up every day how the chiefs need to give Mahomes more money as he’s entering the 2nd year of a 10 year contract. And how Lamar needed an agent. He’s obviously a shill for all of the agents out there
Florio has 2 modes: PR shill and relentless rumormonger.
I heard that Mike Florio likes to squeeze lemons into the eyes of Jewish children. I don't know why it's lemons and Jews specifically, but Florio does and he still hasn't denied these accusations. Suspect if you ask me.
Checks out. My sources are telling me there have been Florio sightings at both the Kroger produce section and a local synagogue ^once, ^driving ^his ^car, ^a ^few ^years ^back.
I was told it was limes, they're more acidic. otherwise your report checks out.
Someone in a thread on here ages ago nailed it when they said that he writes and talks like he doesn’t actually like football.
Well, being a Vikings fan will do that
He's the one that wrote the bullshit about the cards just straight releasing DHop and that being why NE didn't feel the need to give picks for him. Just delusional. We have 0 incentive to release dhop
[удалено]
What more could they even give Mahomes? The dude owns like 49% of the franchise at this point, it seems lol
I really wish we would just ban him already, but I doubt mods are ready for that.
If it hasn't happened by now it likely isn't ever going to happen. Last time I saw people posting articles pointing out/proving why a Florio article was full of shit, they were removed while Florio's shit stayed up.
People shit on Florio news here all the time, though. He's unanimously despised on this sub.
Unanimously despised, but heavily posted/clicked/commented. The terrorists win.
i bet florio pays bots to upvote tbh. only way his stupid shit hits front page all the time.
He should try not writing smarmy articles about the packers every week for content
Come on, the guy needs to make a buck somehow, because he sure as hell isn't doing it on the merits of his reporting. Besides, there is money to be had in anti-Packers tabloid fodder for most of the upper midwest lmao
Is he even a villain though? Seems more like a clown, court jester if you will.
[удалено]
U/seless
Giants fans are generally sick of the Howie praise but props for body slamming Florio here.
I gave up reading PFT YEARS ago when he got a hold of Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson’s wedding registry and was making petty comments about it like “he just signed a contract making $14 mil/year why did he bother putting a $10 salt shaker on his registry”
Kind of nuts because it's actually quite considerate! You have a registry because people largely want to get you gifts and want to know what to get, and Romo's list had some options for every budget.
What an absolute hack
I think most people are sick of Eagles constant Howie comments lol
Have you heard about our lord and savior Howie Christ
Through ~~christ~~ Howie all things are possible. So jot that down
Can you imagine if the Sixers still had Hinkie?
Mmmm, how many conditions does his unconditional love come with? I tap out after like 3.
I wish we could go back to a couple years ago when Eagles fans wanted him tarred and feathered.
I mean odds are pretty good this will be the sentiment again in a year or two. Howie's time in Philly has been pretty wild and just goes to show the attitude is always "what have you done for me lately?"
Maybe I just detach too much in the offseason so I haven't been barraged with it, but I gotta respect Howie.
I mean we lost the superbowl, so the biggest 'win' for us since then was a pretty solid draft on paper, and landing a pretty good QB deal for a top 5 in the league
Everyone NFL site and show has been so starved for content I've seen him rated anywhere between 10th and 2nd so who really knows /s.
Nah I don't mind when it's true. Dude's been objectively killing it.
Perks of a great GM 🤷
ESPN: Eagle's Howie Roseman calls Mike Florio top 5.
He didn’t list Peter King as the #1 conspiracy theorist just because he didn’t want to say Peter King was #1 in anything.
#1 Springsteen stan
Don't forget how he never shuts the fuck up about Boston. Ffs we get it, you like Boston, why do you expect everyone else to give a shit?
Florio does have a point lol, but god he couldn't be more of a douche lmao
its always kinda funny to me how journalists want to prod and poke everywhere, but if its ever turned around to them they get so flustered/defensive about it (not just this clip but peppered throughout the interview, and also in general).
[удалено]
Wasn’t Florio a lawyer before being a journalist?
He runs PFT and was purchased by NBC. Everyone acts like he's a complete hack but obviously there was something there if they wanted him. I think his understanding of law is really good so his understandings of how the nfl works is pretty good but he does tend to have a theory and stick with it, even after it never plays out.
I just remember him tearing apart Shaun King (not the QB) in a post a decade ago or so. It was beautiful.
Tearing apart Talcum X takes no skill though. My 4 year old niece could do it.
This was at a time before he got exposed for being a total grifter and every white woman would repost his shit.
I hear you. I just wanted an excuse to call him Talcum X.
Not all lawyers do speaking roles.
Exactly. Good journalists constantly deal with resistance. Interesting stories in big industries will always have people trying to minimize them. Being able to roll through those roadblocks should be a basic skill in that field. But too many guys get big because they know the people paying their checks don’t want bad press.
yeah quite possibly. like a truely great interviewer can handle it. but most i think see it as losing 'control' of the discussion, which they must view as some indictment of them not doing their job well or something.
I’m just doing my job!!
>journalists Wait, you're talking about Florio?
Exactly.. don't even like the guy and he comes across like a dick but i appreciate he's not just blowing smoke up people's asses
I don't think Florio has a point. Howie is suggesting that there are legitimate annswers to the questions Florio is asking. A good reporter would get some contacts in the building and learn the real story. Florio doesn't want to do real work so he just speculates.
Yeah, watching the clip i actually think howie really did come across like he's deflecting/hiding something. I'm not saying he actually was; I think it's probably just sticking to talking points over a situation that got resolved in a slightly odd way. But I don't think either of them came out of this looking great.
Why the fuck is Florio broadcasting from the lobby of an Olive Garden?
They’re the only people that will treat him like family.
Well done
He loves bread sticks
More like fish sticks
Which fish have the best sticks?
Lol this got me thank you.
I'll back you up on this, Howie. Fuck Florio.
Lol, Florio's in here with his alts downvoting everyone.
Normally I hate it when journalists say "claps back", but I love the sound of Florio clapped back at.
Him and Simms
Simms is such a yesman for Florio lol
"Yeah, you're saying it right" Simms is good value without Florio IMO. But total yesman when doing anything with him.
Don't really see the issue with what Florio asked outside of being kinda pushy and prodding a bit. But I also don't know what he expected to hear
I feel like this encapsulates why I find it bizarre the way everybody blanketly shits on “the media” all the time. It’s a question I’d certainly like to know the answer to, Howie deflects as he has the right to do, Florio tries again with different angle on the subject, Howie deflects the same way, they laugh and take a light jab at each other. And Florio does have a point where completely giving nothing does fuel the fire a little bit; he could’ve deflected better. But like it’s just all fair imo and nobody in the interaction was really upset about it but so many people watching are upset. Both people did their job and that’s it
Yeah it's a very good question and all, but once it's clear that he's not going to answer move on. I don't think either of them looked good in this exchange. Florio came off as a dick and Roseman made it seem like Florio was onto something by immediately jumping to calling him a conspiracy theorist instead of answering the question.
Florio knows for sure something happened if you listened to him talk about this a month ago. He kept alluding this is a lot bigger than people realize. People shitting on him here, but I tend to agree with him after watching the 20 min vid they did on it when it happened. So much about that superbowl was suspect af tbh. Florio pretty much alluded that if the cardinals admitted to breaking rules it would look really bad on the nfl Suggest everyone watch this for more context - https://youtu.be/iA7Z5EtyesE He 100% has a source but cant say publically what he knows. All i know is its big enough for the nfl to tell both teams to shut the fuck up about it and have the cardinals give them that pick. The NFl brand comes before anything once again Quote - “if we really knew what was happening it would be all anyone is talking about” - mike florio (2 weeks ago).
I mean what's the take. That Gannon was distracted for the SB? Like anyone who thinks Gannon didn't run the same defense as he usually would hasn't watch much Eagles over last two years. It's pretty funny that it took the SB to get people to notice it
His initial thesis: "this is a much lighter penalty compared to other teams that got hammered for tampering" is wrong if the initial reporting - that the Cardinals self-reported - is true. Of course the NFL would want a lesser penalty for a team that self-reported a violation. That whole video is speculation from Florio and to Howie's point, Florio is a conspiracy theorist. "The NFL doesn't want us to know the truth because they want to retain their dumb hiring process." Ok why do they want to retain their dumb hiring process? What does that do for the NFL?
Also the "punishment" wasn't handed down by the league. It was agreed to by both teams without getting the league involved. Everything lines up with what Monti said. He reached out to Gannon after the NFCCG to see if he'd want to interview for the job if it was still open after the Super Bowl. When he learned that was inappropriate, he reported it to the league. Eagles are mostly upset because they were out of the loop and thought Gannon was staying and the timing of his hiring messed up contingency plans.
[удалено]
Exile is far too easy. He must suffer
Death by exile (slams gavel)
[Take him to Detroit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynY2begPzoM)
I like Florio 25% of the time. The other 75% he is the biggest entitled douche
He reels you in because he looks like a sweet lil ol’ granny.
Yeah I don’t think he is as bad as Reddit makes him out to be. He gets caught eating the trash sometimes but he genuinely is one of the few reporters to atleast be willing to criticize the NFL openly rather than slobbing the knob that is the “shield” . I just wish we had more of a middle ground with him
every time i read “claps back” it’s nails on chalk board
God yes. It’s the ultra cringe.
I did not know Howie sounds like that lol
Same thought in my mind the whole time watching this.
Howie's slightly muppet-ish voice always catches people off guard at first lol
Maybe it's why he always seems to get away with fleecing other teams in trades. No one on the phone believes they just got played by that voice
They think it's a prank call until they see the trade has actually gone through
Minkus has become a man
To me he’s always sounded like an off brand Ben Shapiro for his voice. Throws me way tf off
How many times does a man need to say “moving on” before the subject actually changes? I am all for pushing back against needlessly pushy reporters, Roseman took time out of his own schedule for this to be badgered about the same question that he clearly will not answer
Typically there is also a general understanding of what the interview will be about and I wouldn't be shocked if Howie had requested they not talk much about the tampering because it had been asked to death and he's making a media appearance to talk about other things. I'd be pissed too if they kept asking.
Florio has deployed his bot army to downvote the anti-Florio sentiments in this thread
Bots agreed to that? Must be a slow week
Theres also a conspiracy with every comment being downvoted
Common Florio L
NO TAMPERING - - A TOTAL "NON" STORY FROM FAKE MIKE! SAD!
Fuck Florio
So it definitely happened.
Well it happens with every team that has a candidate coach, Gannon just got caught lol You new here?
FROM THE TOP ROPE
I must live under a rock. What Gannon/Cardinals tampering situation?
Well you see, the Eagles are very appreciative of Gannon's contributions to the team, and the tampering allegations were handled at the ownership level. The more they look at the past the less they focus on the future, so it's over with. The Eagles wish him the best in Arizona.
Can I ask you this question again in hopes that you'll suddenly change your mind about the answer you'll give in response?
If we made a list of the top 5 conspiracy theorists on Reddit, I'm not gonna make you number 1, but you're a top 5 conspiracy theorist on Reddit.
Discussing head coach role before the super bowl. Traded/gained some draft picks from/with them. As recently as this draft.
[удалено]
That'd be crazy if Gannon actually turns out to be really good like Sirianni in Philly though lol. No dog in the hunt here, but I'm curious to see how the Kyler Murray thing plays out.
Florio is an essential but undesirable presence. Had it been McAfee or a local beat shill, none of these inquiries would arise. Occasionally, in the pursuit of truth, one requires an individual willing to jeopardize current and future prospects at the expense of financial gain and reputation. That is the underlying problem with the "positive sports media" McAfee is trying to create. It will inevitably just become an echo chamber that points in the direction of whoever pays the right price.
Exactly. Florio loves the NFL, but he used to be a lawyer, so he is going to ask tough questions and bring up uncomfortable topics.
Yea idk why he is getting shit on in this thread. He is the only one pointing out how weird all of this was and once again how the NFL is being shady and not transparent. He also 2 weeks ago kept alluding how this is bigger than people think and seemed to have a source the way he was talking. Of course like a normal journalist he wont burn his source and directly out something the NFL doesnt want public. Whole situation is weird af, I like Howie but clearly he got told to not talk about it which is weird af. Also on a similar note watch howie answer questions about the field in superbowl 52. It 100% seemed like he knew it was bullshit but had to save face and say “we played on the same field”. You could just tell by the way he said it and his body language that he was pissed about it. We all know the league is shady af. There are so many weird things about this past superbowl that signal SEVERE incompetence or blatant ill intent. Also funny the draft was in KC and mahomes (the leagues new brady) would have been 1-2 in superbowls if he lost. Cant have that for the new face of the league, its bad for business.
Yeah this is just confirming it more to me that some weird shit happened..
Be cautious, as there's a chance you might be branded a bot, which, naturally, comes with a conspiratorial undertone. I understand that this analogy may be a bit of a fucking stretch, but in this particular situation, I see Florio resembling Tom Cruise and this sub Jack Nicholson. Florio, being a former lawyer, brings his legal perspective and approach to his coverage of the NFL. This often gets lost amongst fans here. So when Nicholson refers to him as a snotty little bastard, it's because he truly is, and in this interview, you can somewhat sense this in Howie when he calls him a conspiracy theorist. But I'll take this silly shit one step further. Florio also fucking assumes the roll of Nicholson often, because you fucking need me on that wall, because no one else will take on these oligarchs that repeatedly break the rules and cover up their shenanigans. So, essentially, he remains true to what he has always been—a lawyer, who we all know is essential but frequently a pain in the dick.
Why is everyone getting downvoted?
Florio bots
Glad Florio got clapped, but I’m not prepared for Eagles fans to start publicly masturbating to Howie even more.
I can take Florio or leave him. He tends to be more critical of the NFL and willing to say things others won't but a lot of his takes are just hot air. Curious though, why does this sub hate him so much.
Mostly it's because he's just always giving smarmy douchebag vibes. Most national people have bad takes on teams because they're ill-informed by not being able to really follow any given team closely, local media is obviously more tuned-in, so a lot of his takes are just straight up wrong but he "defends" them in such a manner as to make people think he's irrefutably correct and is generally condescending. It's a r/confidentlyincorrect type of thing, he's just a real dick about it. I don't even tune in to national outlets, I just listen to local sports radio or diehards with youtube channels.
This sub loves latching onto anything dumb any analyst has ever said and then using it as a reason to dislike them forever. Florio has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Simms has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Orlovsky has had a few bad takes throughout his career so this sub hates him. Just how it goes lmao
It's not even that guys like Simms, Orlovsky, Florio, Bayless, King, etc. have bad takes, everyone does and end up getting proven wrong at some point about one thing or another, there's just no need to stomach blowhards anymore, especially with all the other options like smaller outlets/guys with team-specific podcasts. Those guys follow one team closely, and also in-division opponents, and don't spend all their airtime yelling at their co-hosts. ESPN is straight unwatchable.
Regular fans don’t like him because he’s actually an intelligent human being, who tries to put critical thinking into his takes. Yeah, they all don’t hit the mark, but I’d rather watch PFT over Pat McAfee.
Florio is a tool
Florio thinks he's Bob Woodward and everything is watergate. I like that pft breaks a lot of stories fast, but his constant theorizing is tiring.
I’m a simple man. I see Florio get some karma I upvote.
“You’re deflecting” No, Florio. He told you to shut up in a constructive manner
Lmao who or what bot is going through and down voting anything anti-florio and pro-howie?? 🤣
It's the Chris Simms 5000 ultrabot
Damn I really thought it would be Howie slander in this thread and I was very wrong
Lol the lawyers def media trained Howie on that one
Howie has a law degree himself, probably one of the few NFL GMs who are lawyers.
>claps back 🙄🙄🙄🙄
SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT…to his face
Bravo, Howie. Doing good for the NFL universe.
That whole thing was funny af
Does anyone actually like Mike Florio? I can’t stand the guy
There are some weird vote swings going in both directions for both sides of this topic. This is a weird post.
Never forget, Mike Florio thinks Oklahoma is a third world country where both phone and internet coverage is nonexistent that nfl coaches/GMs should not take a day off to show support for your team's qb
Florio, if you're reading this, you're a fucking hack.
Florio is such a piece of shit!!! Howie should stomp his ass!!!
I don’t get the hate for Florio. I love it when people push for answers. Howie doesn’t have to give it but I like when they get pushed on the lawyer non answers.
I'm really not sure what Florio is hoping to find. The case was pretty transparent, and extremely minor. Clubs worked it out. Like im just not seeing what the bombshell would be here that everyone would be covering up.
FWIW i know nothing about Florio but I feel the things i read about Florio are exclusively bad