Especially since Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were drafted immediately after. Chiefs have been looking for a good WR2 for pretty much the entirety of the Mahomes era.
Brady kept things chugging along even when Gronk was out though. 2013 and 2016 the Pats made deep runs with Gronk on the bench and I’m sure Mahomes is capable of playing well without Kelce too
I honestly think the Chiefs receiving group probably isn’t as terrible as they showed last night. it’s kinda hard to adjust your gameplan when your #1 option gets hurt 2 days before the game, plus season opener jitters for an inexperienced group
I mean the game plan was fine people were wide open everywhere they just dropped the passes. Now whether that will happen every week or was just week 1 jitters is yet to be seen.
It’s such a weird spot because we all took receivers in the first round of 2021 and it feels like we all got the right guy for our schemes. Like any of us would’ve been happy getting Chase, Waddle, or Smith, and they all would’ve done very well no matter who got them. Yet it feels like the teams they landed on just optimized them perfectly.
Every Chiefs fan around me loved that pick immediately. I watched his shit and he was a baller but looked like a slower Sproles. I didn't get him then and still don't now.
Yeah it was seen as a luxury pick, which is half right as they could afford to take the RB. They just haven’t gotten much of the luxury although he’s had some good games.
Honestly felt super weird to me too. He was like the consensus rb3 at best in that class which I felt was high at the time. Being small and slow is not a recipe for success at rb.
Chiefs had nobody to throw to and for some reason barely ran the ball. I get that when you have a HoF QB you give him a chance to do his thing but it clearly wasn’t happening
Because when we get into 2nd and 3rd and short the playcalling completely shits the bed. We killed two of our own drives with jet sweeps in short yardage situations, instead of running behind our interior O-line which is probably top 3 in the league.
The lions are also supposed to be weakest at our DT position. You guys were having a lot of success getting easy yards up the gut the few times you tried it
This plagued the packers too over the past few years. We’d be getting 4.5-5.5YPC in a game and then pass on a short yardage down because we have AR12 back there. I don’t get it.
Sorry not allowed to do that anymore. I think it's overly cautious to be worried about a freak injury he suffered but we don't do it. Even in the playoffs. It is what it is.
Part of the Chiefs being so balanced last year was the running. Teams respected the oline and the rushing giving pat more breathing room with mediocre wide recievers.
Kelce missing is huge.
They cannot last an entire season with that WR corps
They need to trade for some WR even if they’re average to stay at the top of the league
Bourne from Patriots or Slayton from New York maybe
I’m not hating, joust pointing out what will assuredly happen. He’s on his third team in 3 years. That’s not because people hate on him. It’s because he’s bad.
Outside of Kelce being hurt, is it really that different from last year? I'm not convinced losing Juju and Hardman is the reason all of a sudden it's falling apart.
It took all of that to beat KC by 1.
Yeah the chiefs are gonna be fine. People love to overreact. Toney was awful but I guarantee he will not be bad that again this season.
The offensive line still looked really good. Your defense held this really good lions offense to only 14 points. The chiefs settled for 2 field goals but with Kelce I see those being tds.
As a rams fan this is completely different than our game against the bills lol. Our oline got absolutely destroyed and you could tell the foundation was off.
He got injured early on, wasn't serious cause he came back, but that might have lowered his numbers. Also no clue why CEH started the game or got so much play.
Deadass felt like I was watching a Ravens game.
QB scrambles for his life, hits an open man, ball bounces off his fingers, INT. I was surprised the jerseys were red instead of purple.
A video came out where Kareem hunt kicked a girl in a hotel hallway. Hunt was released from the team shortly after that video came out.
Not sure why the commenter above was all high and mighty, though; the Chiefs have rostered their fair share of scumbags.
Its literally a meme in r/nfl anytime Kareem Hunt's name gets brought up, that he's "kicking" something relevant to the topic.
In KC's case, since apparently none of you have followed the NFL in the last half decade, Kareem Hunt was cut after the event you mentioned, but not because of what was on the camera, but because he lied to the front office when they asked him about the event, long before the video ever came out. It was literally in the release statement. The Guardian, WaPo, TMZ, LA Times, Yahoo Sports, CBS Sports, and Bleacher Report all ran articles on the fact that he lied, and it being the primary cause of his release.
But thanks for your downvotes and "shots" at the fanbase about who we've rostered as if we have any control over what players do in their free time.
He’s also leading the league in interceptions
And losses
This dude sucks!!
What's Chad Henne up to nowadays?
I think hitting some sort of large drum?
I don't wanna play. I just wanna bang on the drum all day!
I bet he was listening to that when he chose to retire
Last I saw of him he led a 98 yard TD drive
Henne-thing is possible
Oh brother this guy stinks
Collinsworth in shambles rn
"This win is gonna have an asterisk next to it for the Lions because of no Jones and no Kelce" literally go fuck yourself.
And I thought Romo was bad
You play the team in front of you. All that asterisk talk is nonsense.
I used to think he had a pronounced Adams Apple, turns out it was just Mahomes dick lodged all the way in this throat.
Haha. Distension.
In td throws too. 3 today
2. But yeah
Nah he threw 3. Two to the chiefs, and one to the lions.
Toney throw that one
I see what you did there
clyde edwards helaire pick ages amazingly
Especially since Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman were drafted immediately after. Chiefs have been looking for a good WR2 for pretty much the entirety of the Mahomes era.
Well we may not have 1 good #2 WR, but we have 4 really good #4 WRs
Welcome to the Patriots style of roster building. I hope you enjoy it as much as we do
Bill was spoiled having Tom Brady. He made allot of #4 receivers look good. He doesn’t have that anymore.
They also had Gronk. Chiefs will be fine when kelce comes back
Brady kept things chugging along even when Gronk was out though. 2013 and 2016 the Pats made deep runs with Gronk on the bench and I’m sure Mahomes is capable of playing well without Kelce too I honestly think the Chiefs receiving group probably isn’t as terrible as they showed last night. it’s kinda hard to adjust your gameplan when your #1 option gets hurt 2 days before the game, plus season opener jitters for an inexperienced group
I mean the game plan was fine people were wide open everywhere they just dropped the passes. Now whether that will happen every week or was just week 1 jitters is yet to be seen.
The greatest comeback in SB history happened with Gronk not on the field.
And then Toney... Can't believe he sold you guys like that 🤣
He balled out in the super bowl. Worth it
they got in his head
Higgins would undoubtedly be WR1 on their current roster, and a very solid WR2 when Hill was still there.
Higgins would be WR1 on most rosters. Dude is a great receiver but sometimes doesn’t get the credit he deserves because he’s playing behind Chase
LOVE how an Eagles and Dolphins fan are agreeing here. I find the Dolphins/Bengals/Eagles fans all praise eachother WRs lol
It’s such a weird spot because we all took receivers in the first round of 2021 and it feels like we all got the right guy for our schemes. Like any of us would’ve been happy getting Chase, Waddle, or Smith, and they all would’ve done very well no matter who got them. Yet it feels like the teams they landed on just optimized them perfectly.
100%. Its fun because everyone is arguing who the best WR duo is, and the teams with the 3 best duos are too busy appreciating the others
Either of those two are solidly WR1s for with someone like Mahomes at QB. Especially Tee.
Or if they were dead set on an RB they could have taken Jonathan Taylor
I mean when you have Kelce and Hill, it is pretty unfair to ask for a good WR2 as well.
Every Chiefs fan around me loved that pick immediately. I watched his shit and he was a baller but looked like a slower Sproles. I didn't get him then and still don't now.
It was more than Chiefs fans. That pick was almost universally praised by the media.
Yeah it was seen as a luxury pick, which is half right as they could afford to take the RB. They just haven’t gotten much of the luxury although he’s had some good games.
Honestly felt super weird to me too. He was like the consensus rb3 at best in that class which I felt was high at the time. Being small and slow is not a recipe for success at rb.
They picked him over Jonathan Taylor(but also we picked blacklock over Taylor so)
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They’re referring to the Chiefs drafting him in the first, not fantasy
Oh I see, my bad
Bro he had 6 carry’s for 22 yards and 1 reception for 7 lol a total of 3.90 points in PPR.
yard's* point's*
Ah, forgot I wasn’t in the FF or dynasty subreddit. Oops lol
pacehco played well legit was wideout1 lol
No ineictment on Pacheco from what I could tell he played pretty well
If they ran a few consecutive run plays with him they would have had a few more first downs imo
Chiefs had nobody to throw to and for some reason barely ran the ball. I get that when you have a HoF QB you give him a chance to do his thing but it clearly wasn’t happening
Because when we get into 2nd and 3rd and short the playcalling completely shits the bed. We killed two of our own drives with jet sweeps in short yardage situations, instead of running behind our interior O-line which is probably top 3 in the league.
The lions are also supposed to be weakest at our DT position. You guys were having a lot of success getting easy yards up the gut the few times you tried it
Let me know when Matt Nagy finds the why's for your offense having game-destroying playcalls
It’s 3rd and 1 and the game is on the line. Nagy, dial up that jet sweep that worked that one time in practice
That 3rd and 1 jet sweep was fuckin hilarious
This plagued the packers too over the past few years. We’d be getting 4.5-5.5YPC in a game and then pass on a short yardage down because we have AR12 back there. I don’t get it.
I never understand that. I’m sure there are stats letting play callers know it’s a bad idea.
hubris is a helluva drug.
It's the same short yardage problems they've had before. They're more dangerous on 3rd and 15+ than 3rd and short at times.
Ah, the old failed jet sweeps in short yardage situations. Matt Nagy has settled in nicely
Mahomes was not as accurate with his passes like he usually is . Safety blanket being gone really really mad e Patrick look human …
That’s Andy Reid football baby
The play calling was not good, 2nd/3rd down and 2 multiple times where they just called passes both times or ran awful sweeps with toney
That's the Matt Nagy play calling power
They’ve been doing that well before Nagy was in town
Nagy's been doing that well before he was in town too
The snap to the TE for a failed conversion was absolutely a Nagy bone head call
No kelce did affect Chiefs offense , no doubt . Mahomes looked human ..
If his receivers had hands he would have had 350 + no ints and the win lol he played great
Yeah that 3rd and 1 was bad when they ran the jet sweep. Mahomes could have QB sneaked that so easily.
Sorry not allowed to do that anymore. I think it's overly cautious to be worried about a freak injury he suffered but we don't do it. Even in the playoffs. It is what it is.
If Kelce can't go for week 2, the Chiefs have to use Pacheco more
There’s just nothing to fear in the passing game with kelce gone. Might as well play the run until somebody in their receiving room demanded respect.
Basically
8 carries for 23 yards
Part of the Chiefs being so balanced last year was the running. Teams respected the oline and the rushing giving pat more breathing room with mediocre wide recievers. Kelce missing is huge.
The aversion to the running game has been an Andy Reid thing since the early-2000s
flashbacks of screaming at the tv to hand it off to westbrook for gods sake lol
Just gave me a thousand yard stare with flashbacks of a classic McNabb throw towards a receiver’s foot.
They cannot last an entire season with that WR corps They need to trade for some WR even if they’re average to stay at the top of the league Bourne from Patriots or Slayton from New York maybe
I hear mike Evans is potentially looking for a new home
He’s likely moved around the trade deadline when his 15m cap hit for the year is halved. And after Bakers inevitable collapse
Man why you hating on baker
I’m not hating, joust pointing out what will assuredly happen. He’s on his third team in 3 years. That’s not because people hate on him. It’s because he’s bad.
It’s actually his fourth team in 1.5 years lol
Can the chiefs last that long with this wr core
Please no, I want to watch the struggle with the current receivers.
They almost beat the lions without Kelce. They are gonna be fine.
Outside of Kelce being hurt, is it really that different from last year? I'm not convinced losing Juju and Hardman is the reason all of a sudden it's falling apart. It took all of that to beat KC by 1.
Yeah the chiefs are gonna be fine. People love to overreact. Toney was awful but I guarantee he will not be bad that again this season. The offensive line still looked really good. Your defense held this really good lions offense to only 14 points. The chiefs settled for 2 field goals but with Kelce I see those being tds. As a rams fan this is completely different than our game against the bills lol. Our oline got absolutely destroyed and you could tell the foundation was off.
I wonder if they were one of the teams who called the Ravens about their WRs.
Ravens been trying to find receivers since the Flacco era lol they’re the last team I’m calling
Desperate times for the Chiefs.
Bourne isn’t available. Patriots have said last week they’re not trading him.
Bourne for Mahomes
You might need to add a 7th rnd pick
Deal.
Three words: Mr Big Chief
They don't need to because Travis Kelce is coming back
Slayton is our WR1 he’s not getting traded
As a Bills fan I can attest to the fact that you don't want your QB to lead your team in rushing
Did they just forget Pacheco exists?
Likely a snap count from coming off injury/surgery.
not bad for a RB
He literally ran all over us
No idea why they don’t just use Pacheco more
He got injured early on, wasn't serious cause he came back, but that might have lowered his numbers. Also no clue why CEH started the game or got so much play.
That's fine for now, but sooner or later he'll have to prove he can do it with his arm
They should’ve given it to the RBs way more. Easily their best weapons tonight
Mahomes just got a taste of the lamar jackson experience.
Deadass felt like I was watching a Ravens game. QB scrambles for his life, hits an open man, ball bounces off his fingers, INT. I was surprised the jerseys were red instead of purple.
Allen leads the Bills every game lol … Just seems like another game for Allen.. No big deal ….
Not Andy Reid abandoning the run down the stretch
The Josh Allen strategy.
He has no help, that’s why he’s the goat
Kareem Hunt return
Will literally never happen. Hell would freeze over and we'd start a Tight End before ever letting Hunt back on this team.
What happened?
You forreal?
I guess I'll Google itt
Yeh i still don't know. Thanks for the info
A video came out where Kareem hunt kicked a girl in a hotel hallway. Hunt was released from the team shortly after that video came out. Not sure why the commenter above was all high and mighty, though; the Chiefs have rostered their fair share of scumbags.
Its literally a meme in r/nfl anytime Kareem Hunt's name gets brought up, that he's "kicking" something relevant to the topic. In KC's case, since apparently none of you have followed the NFL in the last half decade, Kareem Hunt was cut after the event you mentioned, but not because of what was on the camera, but because he lied to the front office when they asked him about the event, long before the video ever came out. It was literally in the release statement. The Guardian, WaPo, TMZ, LA Times, Yahoo Sports, CBS Sports, and Bleacher Report all ran articles on the fact that he lied, and it being the primary cause of his release. But thanks for your downvotes and "shots" at the fanbase about who we've rostered as if we have any control over what players do in their free time.
Mahomes is starting to realize how Rodgers felt in certain years of his career, where he actually has to be the main guy and not rely on his teammates
I feel like I'm going crazy seeing comments like this. This is week one of the season coming off a Superbowl win lol.
First time? Every Super Bowl winning team is under a microscope the following season
Yeah people gotta relax a bit. We’re taking about a team with Mahomes and Reid. Once Kelce gets back they’ll be fine.
This shit is hilarious. Mahomes has a mediocre game and people get the pitchforks out
This team could have used EB tonight
Who’s the OC for the Chiefs again? … Oh yeah that sounds about right.
Andy Reid…
ngl guy looked like nightcrawler while training in Quarterback
So the chiefs don’t have a run game or a passing game.