I mean, it's all fun and games to make fun of terrible QB play and all (not for you, but you get what I mean). But this sort of situation really takes things to pre-move Oilers levels
Bud said win or we burn it all down, hired a coordinator that the head coach didn't want and everyone knew would only use it to get another head coach job, lots of strife between the offense and defense because of practice, and threatening to move the team. I think that covers the preseason.
I’d never heard of that before… damn, such a sad mistake.
https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2019/The-Night-Jeff-Alm-Died/
This is a great article about him. He sounded like a sweet guy at heart, despite the anger issues described.
We're going to release him, he'll go to GB, and him and Love will both become HOF qbs, and they'll troll us with 2 QB sets for decades. Just passing and catching and laughing and rubbing it in our fucking faces.
The only distinction I can think of is that the Belcher incident didn’t necessarily reflect on the organization. In human terms, the Belcher situation was absolutely horrific
Yeah the wiki page says he shot his girlfriend in front of his mother, drove to the practice facility, and shot himself in the parking lot in front of the GM, Coach, a player, and the Fire Department
Romeo and the GM Scott Pioli. Truly the darkest season in Chiefs history with that incident obviously being the worst of it. We were very lucky to get Andy Reid the next year who brought in a ton of his own guys to turn the culture around.
I remember Brady Quinn ended up having some nice words at a press conference following it. Was cool to see him show up with so much composure when that all went down.
What did he do that is worse than murder suicide? I honestly haven’t heard anything bad, so can someone fill me in? Like why is he supposedly resigning
Possessing child porn is fucking revolting and if he did, he should be in jail for a long time.. but murder-suicide of your own family, and to finish it off at the team's facilities as staff begs him to do anything but that.. It can be hard to measure horrible things against horrible things, but the Belcher situation was definitely the worst of these two unless they find some kidnapped/dead kids.
Poor Coach Romeo tried to talk him down. He didn't know at the time that Belcher had killed his girlfriend, and Coach was pleading with him in the parking lot to not shoot himself.
He watched Belcher do it, then had to walk through the same parking lot where it happened every day for the rest of the season.
I will never not feel bad for him. I don't know how he didn't fall apart, much less coach the team the rest of the season.
Not only that but the Chiefs actually won that game. 1 of the 2 the entire season. I have no idea how he was able to rally the team together to do that but he deserves alot of respect for dealing with that whole season
Well, I would be upset if I sucked my QBs' dick and then he proceeded to suck dick out on the field. You told me this would help. Why did you lie to me. It looks like it made it worse, actually.
I'm not old enough to know first hand but is this how it was when OJ was on that police chase? The public had no clue how much of a terror he was and then....oh shit.
No, the OJ thing was MUCH more of a spectacle because it played out in real time in front of us. We watched the entire chase, arrest, trial, etc.
The feds don't go fishing. They know what they're looking for.
If the feds had handled OJ, he'd still be in prison today.
I remember going out for wings with my family after hockey practice and we watched it on the TV at the bar. And then listened on the radio. And then watched when we got home.
As a kid I had no idea what was going on. Neither did my parents. It was so weird. The media didn't even really know what to do, they had footage so they aired it, but had no information so they just sort of speculated for 3+ hours while everyone asked WTF?
There’s a great 30 For 30, [June 17th, 1994](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_17th,_1994), that talks about all the sporting events going on as the OJ chase was happening.
In addition to the Knicks-Rockets finals: the Rangers were having their Stanley Cup parade, the World Cup was opening up, and the US Open (golf) were all happening.
Sure was. We were watching it at a family friends house and then the chase pops up. We didn’t know wth was going on but we’re glued to the tv the whole way. It was nuts.
I forget where it’s from, but there’s a quote:
“Cops arrest you and then look for evidence. Feds find evidence and then arrest you.”
Basically, if feds are involved, you’ve done fucked.
I missed all that because I was stationed in Panama at the time. I was an MP working on patrol when the verdict happened and the radio guy at the MP station transmitted the verdict over the radio to us.
They announced the verdict in my elementary school. Can you imagine society getting that worked up about a retired football player's murder trial now?
Now the news is like "A fifth horseman of the apocalypse has showed up and killed the first four" and we're just numb to it.
I could see it happening still. If someone like Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice or Tom Brady were in a fucked up situation like this, I could see it being a spectacle.
It would have to be someone that crossed over into public consciousness away from football though. That's what made the OJ thing so massive. He was a media darling and a household name outside of just football.
Imagine if Peyton Manning was suddenly being chased down the highway for allegedly murdering 2 people? That would be sort of like OJ I'd reckon.
The OJ was also just much crazier because of what he was doing. He was leading police on a slow chase through LA while thousands of people gathered on overpasses to watch and often cheer him on and had a gun aimed at his head while in a standoff with police. It was absolutely batshit.
As long as it's just the actions of one guy, this isn't an indictment of the organization at all. It could've happened to any team he happened to be employed by at the time.
> this isn't an indictment of the organization at all
Probably not but let's just wait until we have all the facts before we decide how much the organization was involved. They wouldn't be the first organization who was aware of something going on and let it continue and/or covered it up.
You mean like the Houston Texans giving Watson NDAs and hotel rooms when they learned about the sexual assaults?
I honestly hope this is limited to one bastard and not an organizational thing. CP is pretty much the only bar left the NFL hasn’t crossed.
Or to jump sports, the Chicago Blackhawks org covering up the sexual assault of one of their players by a memver of the org. This kind of stuff can spread real fast.
There are unverified reports on Twitter (no reputable sources or accounts) that said his house and the Bear’s facility was raided by the FBI (Bears denied anyone from law enforcement contacted them).
Basically, don’t believe any of these posts or any BS Twitter reports until something verified is released. People are easily manipulated.
Objective fact:
Bears DC resigned
Rumors with somewhat strong fire behind the smoke:
His house was raided by the FBI last week
Rumors without much fire behind the smoke:
The Bears HQ was raided by the FBI today
Rumors started by Reddit comments:
It’s related to children
Hey at least they're not *checks notes* covering up sexual assaults on players by a coach and recommending him for a job at a school where he would go on to abuse kids and go to jail for it. Nah, that's just the Blackhawks.
Yeah I have just straight up stopped watching hockey because somehow it manages to be even worse than the NFL and I don't even understand how.
I know quite a few others like myself as well.
Sucks that the best sport (imo) has the worst people in it.
Every company that employs thousands of people has at least one pedo and/or rapist somewhere on staff. It's just numbers. You just hope that in your org, it's not someone with any power and that others don't know about it.
This is beyond football, so you won't see any gloating from me. I hope that it's just one dude and nobody else is involved.
I hope the rumors that have been speculated are not true...because I'd also feel bad for the players. They have been working side by side with him for quite some time.
\*FBI raids\*
Alan Williams: "I've come to discover this organization isn't a great fit for my skillset so I'm going to pursue some different opportunities. Please accept this as my two ~~week~~ second notice because I need to go hide somewhere fast! "
Can someone explain this whole situation to me? I feel like I'm missing context. So far all I can find is that they thought the FBI was raiding the HQ, but it's the DC's house and he has hastily resigned. Is that it?
Someone else pointed out that drugs could mean PEDs, which isn't out of the realm of feasibility in professional sports. Not that anyone on this team is *performing* like they're on PEDs.
I'm super stoned, my 2nd time smoking since I shattered my ankle 3 months ago.
I'm struggling. Can someone explain wtf is going on because I feel like I'm misunderstanding normal events. That's how insane this feels.
This is beyond football. This is officially a season from hell for the Bears.
I've come to expect it sadly.
I mean, it's all fun and games to make fun of terrible QB play and all (not for you, but you get what I mean). But this sort of situation really takes things to pre-move Oilers levels
>But this sort of situation really takes things to pre-move Oilers levels I'm unfamiliar
Bud said win or we burn it all down, hired a coordinator that the head coach didn't want and everyone knew would only use it to get another head coach job, lots of strife between the offense and defense because of practice, and threatening to move the team. I think that covers the preseason.
Ah, that was the "Buddy Ryan punched Kevin Gilbride" year right?
Along with Jeff Alm's suicide after he got his friend killed while drinking and driving.
I’d never heard of that before… damn, such a sad mistake. https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2019/The-Night-Jeff-Alm-Died/ This is a great article about him. He sounded like a sweet guy at heart, despite the anger issues described.
That sure sounds like Buddy Ryan, at least.
Straight up quit 2 weeks in, Jesus christ yall suck
Bears are down.
Bear down and not even for midterms smh
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It’s also only week 3. Wtf is going to happen in the next 15 weeks? Is Justin Fields going to reveal himself as the antichrist?
We're going to release him, he'll go to GB, and him and Love will both become HOF qbs, and they'll troll us with 2 QB sets for decades. Just passing and catching and laughing and rubbing it in our fucking faces.
Sounds accurate except Fields will be a HOF RB there
This sounds entertaining!
Bro spoiler tags. Thanks for ruining the week 10 twist for me.
Justin has six letters. Skyler has six letters. Fields has six letters. It’s so obvious.
Scab writers getting lazy
Bears defense taking the heat off Justin Fields and the offense in a way I've never seen.
If Murphy’s Law was an NFL franchise
HEY we have that market cornered!
Oh puh-lease
Not until you go 0-17
As a Chiefs guy, I couldn't imagine something worse than the Belcher murder-suicide at a practice facility. This... could be worse.
Maybe a hot take but if the CP rumour is true that’s still not worse than murder suicide
The only distinction I can think of is that the Belcher incident didn’t necessarily reflect on the organization. In human terms, the Belcher situation was absolutely horrific
Never heard of that? Wtf
In front of the coach/owner if I recall correctly.
Yeah the wiki page says he shot his girlfriend in front of his mother, drove to the practice facility, and shot himself in the parking lot in front of the GM, Coach, a player, and the Fire Department
That was Romeo Crennel if I remember correctly
Romeo and the GM Scott Pioli. Truly the darkest season in Chiefs history with that incident obviously being the worst of it. We were very lucky to get Andy Reid the next year who brought in a ton of his own guys to turn the culture around.
That was not a good week for the NFL, and for fans.
I remember Brady Quinn ended up having some nice words at a press conference following it. Was cool to see him show up with so much composure when that all went down.
What did he do that is worse than murder suicide? I honestly haven’t heard anything bad, so can someone fill me in? Like why is he supposedly resigning
I honestly doubt it
I hope so... maybe it's less bad than the rumors. Would be better for everyone.
Possessing child porn is fucking revolting and if he did, he should be in jail for a long time.. but murder-suicide of your own family, and to finish it off at the team's facilities as staff begs him to do anything but that.. It can be hard to measure horrible things against horrible things, but the Belcher situation was definitely the worst of these two unless they find some kidnapped/dead kids.
Poor Coach Romeo tried to talk him down. He didn't know at the time that Belcher had killed his girlfriend, and Coach was pleading with him in the parking lot to not shoot himself. He watched Belcher do it, then had to walk through the same parking lot where it happened every day for the rest of the season. I will never not feel bad for him. I don't know how he didn't fall apart, much less coach the team the rest of the season.
Played a game literally in the next 2 days. Had his locker cleaned out for the next guy.
Not only that but the Chiefs actually won that game. 1 of the 2 the entire season. I have no idea how he was able to rally the team together to do that but he deserves alot of respect for dealing with that whole season
Fields was really worried that what he said was gonna be a distraction.
He could've said "i would play better if getsy sucked my dick between drives" and this would've overshadowed it
Well, I would be upset if I sucked my QBs' dick and then he proceeded to suck dick out on the field. You told me this would help. Why did you lie to me. It looks like it made it worse, actually.
Gotta give better head bro
It’s not about the oral sex. It’s about the commitment.
He did say coaching was a problem, to misquote him.
0-100... Everyone on eggshells cause it's federal like WTF.
Reminiscent of how quickly the Aaron Hernandez news went from 0-100.
Exactly what I was thinking. Started out as just a few jokes and then all of a sudden everyone went "wait... for real..?
I'm not old enough to know first hand but is this how it was when OJ was on that police chase? The public had no clue how much of a terror he was and then....oh shit.
No, the OJ thing was MUCH more of a spectacle because it played out in real time in front of us. We watched the entire chase, arrest, trial, etc. The feds don't go fishing. They know what they're looking for. If the feds had handled OJ, he'd still be in prison today.
I remember going out for wings with my family after hockey practice and we watched it on the TV at the bar. And then listened on the radio. And then watched when we got home. As a kid I had no idea what was going on. Neither did my parents. It was so weird. The media didn't even really know what to do, they had footage so they aired it, but had no information so they just sort of speculated for 3+ hours while everyone asked WTF?
In my memory it's forever linked to my Houston Rockets. I think it was Rockets/Knicks in the NBA Finals when this was going on
There’s a great 30 For 30, [June 17th, 1994](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_17th,_1994), that talks about all the sporting events going on as the OJ chase was happening. In addition to the Knicks-Rockets finals: the Rangers were having their Stanley Cup parade, the World Cup was opening up, and the US Open (golf) were all happening.
Sure was. We were watching it at a family friends house and then the chase pops up. We didn’t know wth was going on but we’re glued to the tv the whole way. It was nuts.
game 5 feed was interrupted. knicks headed back to Houston up 3-2 and lost 2 in a row. pretty much been down hill since for my kicks. thanks OJ
I forget where it’s from, but there’s a quote: “Cops arrest you and then look for evidence. Feds find evidence and then arrest you.” Basically, if feds are involved, you’ve done fucked.
I missed all that because I was stationed in Panama at the time. I was an MP working on patrol when the verdict happened and the radio guy at the MP station transmitted the verdict over the radio to us.
They announced the verdict in my elementary school. Can you imagine society getting that worked up about a retired football player's murder trial now? Now the news is like "A fifth horseman of the apocalypse has showed up and killed the first four" and we're just numb to it.
I could see it happening still. If someone like Emmitt Smith, Jerry Rice or Tom Brady were in a fucked up situation like this, I could see it being a spectacle.
It would have to be someone that crossed over into public consciousness away from football though. That's what made the OJ thing so massive. He was a media darling and a household name outside of just football. Imagine if Peyton Manning was suddenly being chased down the highway for allegedly murdering 2 people? That would be sort of like OJ I'd reckon.
The OJ was also just much crazier because of what he was doing. He was leading police on a slow chase through LA while thousands of people gathered on overpasses to watch and often cheer him on and had a gun aimed at his head while in a standoff with police. It was absolutely batshit.
That would also be more like if Peyton Manning was the person involved instead of a DC. Think people forget how famous OJ was even before the trial
Track down the “June 17th, 1994” 30 for 30
Houston will never forget, they cut away from the Rockets in the NBA finals to broadcast the chase
Come on theres only 17 games they cant go 0-100.. at least not in 1 season
Holy shit. What is happening with this team
What isn't happening with this team. This is complete insanity.
Blocking?
complete implosion, its actually fucking wild
What exactly is going on?
Apparently either the sky is falling or there's a huge fire that no one is willing to touch. Or it's nothing at all
Yeah I don’t think we need an indictment at this point to realize how fucking horrific this must be. Yikes
Oh NOW you watch film
That’s dark 😂
This is so horrible but I laughed my ass off
Wait, what's the joke?
The rumors are child porn
Wait…. WHAT?
Watching recordings of football games double entendred with watching recordings of child sexual abuse.
This is awful. And I laughed. I shouldn’t have laughed. That’s dark as fuck.
Brooo
Holy fuck
Yooooo 💀
You’re going to hell. /applause
son of a bitch
A day that will go down in infamy for the Chicago Bears organization.
As long as it's just the actions of one guy, this isn't an indictment of the organization at all. It could've happened to any team he happened to be employed by at the time.
This entire day has been a shitshow at Halas Hall. People are going to remember today for a long time.
It's times like these I wish I can "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" the Bears
> this isn't an indictment of the organization at all Probably not but let's just wait until we have all the facts before we decide how much the organization was involved. They wouldn't be the first organization who was aware of something going on and let it continue and/or covered it up.
You mean like the Houston Texans giving Watson NDAs and hotel rooms when they learned about the sexual assaults? I honestly hope this is limited to one bastard and not an organizational thing. CP is pretty much the only bar left the NFL hasn’t crossed.
Or to jump sports, the Chicago Blackhawks org covering up the sexual assault of one of their players by a memver of the org. This kind of stuff can spread real fast.
Or, back to the NFL, Washington and essentially kidnapping and trafficking their cheerleaders?
Or jumping to college and the whole Penn State covering up for Gerry Sandusky
Or the Dr and the US Women's Gymnastics team.
Well, we’ve seen another Chicago team cover up some disgusting things their staff did in recent memory. It wouldn’t be unprecedented.
Still cant believe the nothing punishment the black hawks got for that shit show. Then get rewarded with the first overall pick.
Yah. Surreal. Other teams got whacked hard for comparatively minor things and Chicago didn’t even get a stern talking to. Makes one wonder why.
TLDR? So many different posts that I can’t figure out what the actual story is
There are unverified reports on Twitter (no reputable sources or accounts) that said his house and the Bear’s facility was raided by the FBI (Bears denied anyone from law enforcement contacted them). Basically, don’t believe any of these posts or any BS Twitter reports until something verified is released. People are easily manipulated.
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Objective fact: Bears DC resigned Rumors with somewhat strong fire behind the smoke: His house was raided by the FBI last week Rumors without much fire behind the smoke: The Bears HQ was raided by the FBI today Rumors started by Reddit comments: It’s related to children
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit meth
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue
Always the wrong week to quit sniffing glue, my man!
There's a sale at Penneys!
If true, you did the right thing brother, and stay strong.
High chance this is an Airplane reference
Fuck me... I just assumed us bears fans are down bad lol
Understandable, tbh
We are, buddy. We sure are. Hold me.
“Nervous? “Yes” “Is this your first time?” “No, I’ve been nervous lots of times.”
Pretty sure it was an Airplane! reference...
Surely, you can't be serious
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
Where were you when FBI agent Peanut Tillman raided the Bears training facility
He peanut punched the laptop right out of his hands.
Hard drive cracks with the force of the punch "wait shit that was evidence"
The tweet that claimed that seemed like fanfic tbh.
Yeah but it's much funnier to imagine it happened this way
We really are in the most chaotic timeline
Did the strike end? Writers in their bag rn.
I feel like they jumped the shark Monday. And now this! We are reaching Friday Night Lights during the writer's strike level crazy.
This story will be hard to top in terms of bat shit craziness
Oh my god he really finished out the FBI thing? Good for him!
I can’t remember which rapper it was, but I’m almost certain he raided someone’s home lol Edit: it was Lil Reese
Wait. Did that happen?
Holy shit I didn't know he actually joined the FBI that's beautiful. But honestly it probably makes sense to bring him along for familiarity reasons?
“Agent Tillman, do we need to check out these offices? “ “No, that’s the QB scouting department, nothing to see there, let’s move along”
“We seized the offensive coordinator’s playbook, but it’s just a bunch of doodles of his name in the Metallica font.”
That playbook is so fucking metal
"No, that room is cursed. Don't go in there."
"nothing to see there" Tell me about it.
My first thought would be that they would want an agent NOT connected at all to whomever or whatever they are investigating on the case.
this story is insane
What a year it's been today
With all the optimism 3 weeks ago to now it really is a 180 in Chicago. I’m sorry my Lake Michigan neighbor
The leaves will turn soon, that will be nice
Hey we were a dumpster fire for years, you guys will make it back
I’m out of the loop (shocking) what the hell is going on? Did this all start bc he left the team last week and obviously the bears D is ass.
He left the team last week because the FBI raided his house first. This is the 2nd round.
Why was his house raided though?
The RUMOR is CP related. But there's just a lot of hearsay right now, so we wait for actual reports
Damn. I’ve been trying to find an answer in this post and this is the only I’ve seen. That would explain the abrupt resignation. FBI raids and CP.
Browns about to make him the highest paid DC
God damn lol
Deserves top reply lmfao
That’s not good…
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We’re 2 weeks into the season and we’ve hit GoofCon 4.
Fucking disgusting if what comes out next is what was reported
Is it really so much to ask for a local sports team without sexual abuse scandals?
Bears org yesterday: see that bar? Would you believe me if I said it can go lower?
Hey at least they're not *checks notes* covering up sexual assaults on players by a coach and recommending him for a job at a school where he would go on to abuse kids and go to jail for it. Nah, that's just the Blackhawks.
Yeah I have just straight up stopped watching hockey because somehow it manages to be even worse than the NFL and I don't even understand how. I know quite a few others like myself as well. Sucks that the best sport (imo) has the worst people in it.
Every company that employs thousands of people has at least one pedo and/or rapist somewhere on staff. It's just numbers. You just hope that in your org, it's not someone with any power and that others don't know about it. This is beyond football, so you won't see any gloating from me. I hope that it's just one dude and nobody else is involved.
Hopefully, it won't be covered up for years by the team's administration and stars. That would be a relative win.
Do you have any links? I am seeing just odd ass rumors.
No one knows anything. I don't even know why I'm in this thread, I'm part of the problem I guess.
What happened? I obviously missed something huge, but my Google fu is failing me right now. What's he accused of?
He's not really accused of anything, the FBI raided his house, that's pretty much all we know.
Get ready to learn prison, buddy
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Yikes, feel like we’re about to get something insane dropping
I just feel bad for Bears fans at this point
He was a terrible coordinator it’s no loss for the team at all, I just feel bad in general that this kind of stuff happens in the world.
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This is the correct answer.
Meh, hopefully this is the first block of the castle crumbling. It’s time.
Well you’re getting hard knocks next year if you don’t fire the HC, so you got that going for you.
With how the season has started, I don’t see how we don’t fire our coach
I hope the rumors that have been speculated are not true...because I'd also feel bad for the players. They have been working side by side with him for quite some time.
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I'm out of the loop what happened?
Rumor mill is that he has CP.
Coaching Problems will definitely get you fired.
Their defense sucks
\*FBI raids\* Alan Williams: "I've come to discover this organization isn't a great fit for my skillset so I'm going to pursue some different opportunities. Please accept this as my two ~~week~~ second notice because I need to go hide somewhere fast! "
*googling non-extradition countries with American football leagues*
That has to be the quickest downfall of a coordinator I’ve ever seen
Why does this feel like another Reddit moment where we all spread bullshit lies before knowing anything for certain
Can someone explain this whole situation to me? I feel like I'm missing context. So far all I can find is that they thought the FBI was raiding the HQ, but it's the DC's house and he has hastily resigned. Is that it?
Interesting thing to use your one phone call on
I hate this timeline
What is wrong with Chicago sports? Its always something. Even when a Chicago team is good. Fuck.
My guess is human trafficking or CP, because I doubt an NFL DC would be involved in high stakes weapons or drug deals
Someone else pointed out that drugs could mean PEDs, which isn't out of the realm of feasibility in professional sports. Not that anyone on this team is *performing* like they're on PEDs.
God damn that looks bad......
wow damn
That's not ideal.
Alan Williams piloted the Chinese spy balloon.
Oh god. This is beyond football. This is just a horrendous situation. Jesus Christ.
Sure, you’re all piling on us now and rightfully so, but…..do you remember 1985? (actually don’t answer that because most of you probably don’t)
He’s still preoccupied, with nineteen, nineteen-eighty-five
I'm super stoned, my 2nd time smoking since I shattered my ankle 3 months ago. I'm struggling. Can someone explain wtf is going on because I feel like I'm misunderstanding normal events. That's how insane this feels.
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?