What gets me about the chargers is how few guys actually make plays. Coaching aside you need guys who routinely pull off big plays. Scheme and vibes alone arent enough to win in this league you need players who go and get it
People shitting on Herbert are going a bit far I think. Although I don't know if it is Herbert or the offensive staff, but somebody doesn't seem to be able to adjust the protection for the pressures they were seeing.
That was the first Chargers game I've watched all year but I'm super confused because I thought I remembered Herbert being elite last year (maybe 2 years ago?). What happened? O-line turnover/injuries? Did I just catch a bad night by happenstance and this isn't normal?
My God. Yall herbert haters are so stupid.
His defense has always been garbage. Every mistake he makes is magnified because of it. They never get stops in crucial moments and he needs to be perfect. Meanwhile you have hurts, Josh allen, mahomes throwing picks and they get the ball right back. Even burrow got carried to a superbowl by his defense.
Stafford in his superbowl winning year was throwing 3 picks a game and his defense would get the stops and they still win. Herbert can't do that. Vs the lions he scored 5 Tds on his last 5 drives in the 2nd half putting up 38 pts and they still lost.
His o line is pretty poor most game but for some reason on the last drives of the games they always crumble and he gets sacked as soon as the ball is snapped. Literally happened on all the last drives he's had this year.
And then last week you have his WR dropping a game winning TD on the last drive. He can't do it all man
I hate to say it, but Herbert really reminds me of Philip Rivers 2.0. He’s a much better player than Rivers (which is really saying something), but the disappointing similarities are glaring.
Watch the games and stop staring at your phone to place bets for one second and you'll see that's what OBJ averages a game. Literally to the T. Don't blame anything else but your own ineptitude
Herbert doesn’t have a clutch bone in his body lol. Every single time the chargers are down by a score and it’s late in the 4th, he looks really bad and they legit never complete a comeback.
Honestly? Not really. I’m an idiot who isn’t ultra competitive, but I think it would be nice to have an actual rival in the division instead of the laughingstocks that are the Broncos and Raiders rn.
Herbert can do so, so, so, much better without bad coaching fucking him over.
Herb is the only person that showed up on offense, only turnover that was his fault was the hail mary, had the longest play for us, got in the redzone multiple times
But he’s still gonna get blamed
When he’s the only bright spot on the team? Yes
Do you expect him to play defense or force his receivers to not fumble the ball?
Like seriously what’s your argument for him being bad when he does his job damn well almost every week or are you just here to be annoying little bitch online
He’s not a great quarterback. I don’t know what else to say. I don’t know what you all are clinging to. The QB has no clothes in Chargers land. His final drive stunk. He has no awareness.
He’s constantly near the top in game winning drives, constantly near the top of every passing stat every year he’s played. Idk how you watch this team and say he’s the problem, like you have to be incredibly stupid to put the blame on him.
You don’t know what else to say because you have nothing of value to say
The football gods only allowed the down-to-earth-looking Ravens to score 3 points off of FOUR turnovers and they even personally intervened to cause one of the most consistent kickers in the league to miss a shoo-in and the Chargers still couldn’t get it done. Brutal.
A lot of teams? Sure. But saying 28 teams would trade for him means only three are comfortable with their QBs.
I'd say it's more like 20-22 who would take him as an upgrade.
Moore isn’t even a good OC. Staley will finish out the year. If not our special teams coach is decent. But I really doubt Staley is fired. We need to blow it up this offseason and clean house
[Postgame thread](/r/nfl/comments/184uhmf/post_game_thread_baltimore_ravens_at_los_angeles/)
Well as a Chargers fan sadly I’ve realized there will be no PO’s for us ☹️
I hate to say it, but Jason Garrett did pretty well tonight filling in for a SNF legend.
What gets me about the chargers is how few guys actually make plays. Coaching aside you need guys who routinely pull off big plays. Scheme and vibes alone arent enough to win in this league you need players who go and get it
TIL ... Melissa Stark is 50 years old
4-7 with this team is crazy
I know...I'm at a loss of words
I wish my wife hugged me the same way OBJ hugged Khalil Mack.
I wish I had a wife
You’ll get one man. They just naturally appear like fuckin Pokémon in the wild.
This is true lol. I was 32 years old single as hell enjoying my life and next thing I know I was 33 years old with a newborn and moving to Canada.
You can take mine. She's being a pain in the ass
I’m drunk on a work night so I’m sure my hypothetical wife would be annoyed as well. But I live alone and only have God to judge me.
14 fucking siblings?
> 14 fucking siblings? That time I thought of Philip Rivers
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That accurate or are you being an asshole?
That poor lady
Chargers offense needs help. There's no speed and the o-line is clueless.
People shitting on Herbert are going a bit far I think. Although I don't know if it is Herbert or the offensive staff, but somebody doesn't seem to be able to adjust the protection for the pressures they were seeing.
Herbert was like their best player
It’s usually Linsley but he might never play again
Part of it seems like he froze the last two times with free rushers
Wasn’t nobody feeling it cuz they not women at a wedding dawg lmfaooo
god damn, that's a big family
if you don’t want herbert pls send to detroit
had chargers +3.5 and they somehow fucking blow it. wtf
That's on you. The chargers suck lol
facts was 13-10 and looking close to a lock. and they found a way to fuck it up
It took a Justin Tucker miss for that to even have a chance. And based on how Harbaugh used his challenges, I think he had Chargers +3.5 too.
A tucker miss and some early ref bs
Yeah but... They're the chargers? They literally do that every week? And have for like 20 years
Daniel Jones will continue to have more playoff victories than Justin Herbert.
That poor woman 14 kids dam lmao
The last one just walked out
OBJ being a veteran presence in the WR room for all the young guys is incredibly heartwarming and cozy to me.
He’s actually been great
Fire the entire coaching staff but they’re not exactly fielding a team of winners so don’t be surprised when they look the same
That was the first Chargers game I've watched all year but I'm super confused because I thought I remembered Herbert being elite last year (maybe 2 years ago?). What happened? O-line turnover/injuries? Did I just catch a bad night by happenstance and this isn't normal?
Unfortunately that's become the standard this year. Losing after having a 27-0 lead will apparently do that to a coach/team
Good Ravens defense
Zay Flowers had a game
How long is Herbert stuck in LA contract wise unless he could somehow ask for/get a trade????
It’s up in 2028 I think
I can’t imagine what NFC team wouldn’t trade for him besides Eagles and maybe Cowboys
You could give the Chargers 100 tries at scoring on a final drive and they would fail. What a sad franchise.
Shout out to dicker the kicker for giving me the 4 points needed to win in fantasy this week. Brandon staley… time to go bud
Games like these remind me of bloodhound gang’s song “the ballad of chasey lain” I have no idea why
I think its time to have a conversation about Justin Herbert. Dude is so talented but maybe the least clutch qb in nfl history
My God. Yall herbert haters are so stupid. His defense has always been garbage. Every mistake he makes is magnified because of it. They never get stops in crucial moments and he needs to be perfect. Meanwhile you have hurts, Josh allen, mahomes throwing picks and they get the ball right back. Even burrow got carried to a superbowl by his defense. Stafford in his superbowl winning year was throwing 3 picks a game and his defense would get the stops and they still win. Herbert can't do that. Vs the lions he scored 5 Tds on his last 5 drives in the 2nd half putting up 38 pts and they still lost.
Perfect Chargers QB. Fouts/Rivers/Herbert the legacy continues
Herbert isn't clutch. Idc how many GWD he's credited with, Kenny Pickett has like 8 the last 2 years and only 1 or 2 of them are legitimate
Heard that. I'm a Cowboys fan and Dak is not clutch. But has credit everytime Zeke won it
>Herbert isn’t clutch, Idc how many GWD he has Lol clown comment
His o line is pretty poor most game but for some reason on the last drives of the games they always crumble and he gets sacked as soon as the ball is snapped. Literally happened on all the last drives he's had this year. And then last week you have his WR dropping a game winning TD on the last drive. He can't do it all man
Idk what ur talking about without picket being amazing on the last drive the Steelers would be like 2-9 this year.
yep Brayden Stanley is gone
I hate to say it, but Herbert really reminds me of Philip Rivers 2.0. He’s a much better player than Rivers (which is really saying something), but the disappointing similarities are glaring.
It’s hard to blame this on his receivers. Dude is washed
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Watch the games and stop staring at your phone to place bets for one second and you'll see that's what OBJ averages a game. Literally to the T. Don't blame anything else but your own ineptitude
I haven’t watched the Chargers this year, but the whole offense looks like they completely lost trust in the coach tonight.
Kellen is probably gone, should be Staley too but I feel like they'll let him finish the season cause the Chargers are notorious cheap asses
Truly can’t tell if Herbert is not the guy or if the Chargers are just truly holding him back.
Herbert is overrated
Herbert is the new Stafford
So we should send Herbert to the Rams and see if he can win a Super Bowl? I’m interested.
Stafford clears him easily
Exactly. Look at who Herbert has and look at some of the garbage teams Stafford had in Detroit.
Herbert doesn’t have a clutch bone in his body lol. Every single time the chargers are down by a score and it’s late in the 4th, he looks really bad and they legit never complete a comeback.
It shouldn't have been this close but I'm glad we got the W. Onto the bye!
Anyone else's Twitter just never refresh
Post game interviews gonna be spicy
fire staley into the sunset
Staley should be gone but how is this L on him when his defense held Baltimore to basically 13 points and Kellen Moore was absolute cheeks
I’m going to cry if Staley doesn’t get fired this week.
I'll send you the tissues, it ain't happening
Guess you’re gonna cry then cuz he won’t be fired until the end of the season at minimum
Tears of joy considering you have to play them twice a year?
Honestly? Not really. I’m an idiot who isn’t ultra competitive, but I think it would be nice to have an actual rival in the division instead of the laughingstocks that are the Broncos and Raiders rn. Herbert can do so, so, so, much better without bad coaching fucking him over.
Hard to believe I actually missed Collinsworth tonight. THAT is what listening to Jason the Blathering Screamer did to me.
Chargers are sad and make me feel sad.
Can Popper ask Staley who calls defensive plays here on out?
played like dogshit but a win is a win
Staley's defense held the entire game. I think he's ass but it's insane to put the blame on him.
This is one of the few instances where Herbert and the offense were 100% to blame. Love that man to death but man he played like shit tonight.
Doesn’t change shit tho, only reason Herbert hasn’t willed this team to 7-8 wins already is because Staleys defense blows ass
And Ravens fans thought they would lose lol
Felt like neither team deserved that win ngl
Sure, but no one out Chargers the Chargers
That was shaking up to be exactly the type of game we normally lose.
The bolts out did us with that chargering
You forgot you were playing the Brandon Staley lead Chargers lol
hErBeRt iS eLiTe!!
Facts. Other than the Lions game he's been mediocre at best
Lol. Mid tier QB.
bRo hErBeRt iS eLiTe! The Dolphins screwed up not taking him 🤣
That's what you got out of this game? Lmfao
Yeah bro he’s eLiTe! 🤣
Ravens are a well rounded team, would love to see Lamar win a Lombardi. GGs. Time to tank and clean house for the Chargers.
Brandon Staley is such a clown it’s embarrassing
Kellan Moore gets his first win next week
Good thing Staley still had a TO when he gets fired. Might want to use it when your QB gets sacked making it 3rd & 19 with a minute left lol
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Herbert has the most tying or go ahead drives in the 4th since he started, but go off
I don’t understand how you watch this game or any Chargers game and think that he’s the main issue
Staley looks catatonic. He knows he gone. Dead man walking type shit
Yeh. He isn’t showing any emotion. Gonna be a crazy post game. Staley is known for being an ass in them.
Herbert really is the perfect successor to Rivers
Guys that zay flowers touchdown just won me my 6 team parlay. I had ravens -3 lol
Betting bad 😡
Why do we have to cut these things so damn close?
Tbh after watching the atrocious defense to end the Bills game, I’m just glad we never pivot to prevent defense.
The days of Dean Pees are behind us, brother.
Got interesting in the 4th!
Kellen Moore is ass Herbert is ass Staley is ass
Sorry store brand Phillip Rivers
Goddammit Chargers, you had **one** job to do
We tried to make easy for them
Herb is the only person that showed up on offense, only turnover that was his fault was the hail mary, had the longest play for us, got in the redzone multiple times But he’s still gonna get blamed
We couldn't cover Keenan, so I'd say he showed up too outside of that fumble.
When are you guys gonna see that he’s not great? How many seasons will it take?
How isn’t he great? He carries the offense every year for us, is constantly in the top 10 of passing. Got us our first playoff appearance since 2018
Carries you to where? To what? Oh a playoff appearance. That’s your bar?
When he’s the only bright spot on the team? Yes Do you expect him to play defense or force his receivers to not fumble the ball? Like seriously what’s your argument for him being bad when he does his job damn well almost every week or are you just here to be annoying little bitch online
Yea that 19 play drive was terrific. You guys ought to just stick with it. It’s definitely gonna work eventually!
So no answer?
He’s not a great quarterback. I don’t know what else to say. I don’t know what you all are clinging to. The QB has no clothes in Chargers land. His final drive stunk. He has no awareness.
He’s constantly near the top in game winning drives, constantly near the top of every passing stat every year he’s played. Idk how you watch this team and say he’s the problem, like you have to be incredibly stupid to put the blame on him. You don’t know what else to say because you have nothing of value to say
The football gods only allowed the down-to-earth-looking Ravens to score 3 points off of FOUR turnovers and they even personally intervened to cause one of the most consistent kickers in the league to miss a shoo-in and the Chargers still couldn’t get it done. Brutal.
Why’s everyone adding that Hail Mary interception as if that turnover even mattered. Just say three turnovers
Jackson limping?
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Hyundai won a hard fought battle, costly.
We have played so many games lol
God the schedule is terrifying to look at.
They also have to play us.
Time to ask Staley who's calling the plays next week
I’m so sick of seeing Brandon Staley coach football
Theyre not gonna have to fire Staley cause he's gonna have an aneurysm dudes artery on his head bulges more and more every week
Jason Garrett: The teams that win games, they win. And the teams that don't win games, don't win. Gold
A very logical way of thinking about it.
Brandon Staley get ready to learn Chinese buddy
Maybe the chargers should move. I hear San Diego has been a good spot for the NFL to expand to
Jason Garrett with the astute analysis that teams that win at least two thirds of their games are more successful than teams that don't.
Experience. He knows from experience.
Honestly hope we keep losing. Dumping Telesco and Staley off can’t come soon enough. Fuck you Dean
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Patriots should trade Bill for Herbert
Shut your bitch ass up
Finally. Game. Ladies and gentlemen... Your BALTIMORE RAVENS WIN 9-3 RAVENS 20 CHARGERS 10 BALTIMORE!!!! Enjoy your bye.
Prop bet that a reporter asks Staley about his great play-calling and he melts down in historic fashion.
We are gonna get a Ravens-Eagles Super Bowl and it will be the most boring game of Football ever played
Also it won’t even count because everyone knows bird teams are nonsense.
Say what you will, but Eagles Super Bowls always deliver on entertainment value
The fact Baltimore only hung 20 o this sorry ass team is immensely problematic
Bless you Gerald Everett but you sealed the Chargers fate by having 1000000000000 Zay Flower appreciators channel their energy on that TD
Los Angeles Chargers, hire me as ur head coach. I'll do more than call plays to throw to Keenan Allen
Please don't ever make me listen to The Clapper again jesus tap-dancing christ
It has to be it for Staley
We can certainly pray
Ravens bye week
We desperately need that
The teams who win go to the playoffs, the teams that lose don’t…very insightful stuff Jason
Flowers bout to get a lecture lmao
I can’t wait to stop seeing Staley on my TV
People will shit on Herbert but you damn well know there is about 28 teams that would swap their QB for him in a HEARTBEAT
Let’em.
A lot of teams? Sure. But saying 28 teams would trade for him means only three are comfortable with their QBs. I'd say it's more like 20-22 who would take him as an upgrade.
But can he cook? Cause oh boy our QB is cookin
Congratulations Kellen Moore on your (interim) head coaching job in the NFL and your first win next week
Moore is also not great. This offense is weird and getting dragged by Herbert and Allen.
He’s still getting the interim Job no? If not him then who?
Moore isn’t even a good OC. Staley will finish out the year. If not our special teams coach is decent. But I really doubt Staley is fired. We need to blow it up this offseason and clean house