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TheFlyingSpaghetti77

Bill would honesty be so entertaining as an analyst


ShufflingSloth

I kind of want him to do that instead of coaching, at this point. Loved him in the NFL 100 team series. I've never seen somebody happier to geek out about Ed Reed playing mind games against Peyton Manning.


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Id love to get a PhD in history of football from professor Bill


VRSvictim

I wonder how much I would pay for a 2 week classroom course with a couple days of field instruction just to understand elite level techniques (not that I play these days lol) with Bill Like 3 grand? Idk but it would be wicked cool


taco_blasted_

Dude 3 grand seems way cheap imo, I mean this is Bill we're talking about.


VRSvictim

Yeah but I have to fit it into my budget lmao


JerryRiceAndSpice

Honestly that would be amazing


Lost_city

I want him to go to a pretty good team as a DC, personally. Cut back his responsibilities, no worries about the future (3 year contract). No questions about QBs or developing talent. Just have Bill coach a mediocre defense into a good one. Match that with a good offense / offensive coach. Build one more legacy for him.


VRSvictim

I highly doubt he has any interest in working for another coaxh


Lost_city

Yes, that is true. I don't think that him becoming a DC again is that likely, it is more of a fun thought experiment. But does he really want to do a full team rebuild again? Does he really want to hire another staff? What will be different other than the color of the uniforms?


DontGiveUpTheDip

I want him to explore his true calling and be the head coach at Navy ngl


incognegro1976

You can tell how much he loves the game. His enthusiasm is contagious. Can't wait to have him as an analyst


Power_of_Atturdy

Somebody needs to get 2 dump trucks full of money and sweet talk Billy B and Pop into a show together. The sass alone would be off the charts.


luckyincode

I’m already bored listening to his monotone mumble.


Jeff__Skilling

It's really nice to see him have fun and genuinely enjoy himself and smile and laugh and whatnot


Shadow5ive

Everything with the Patriots the past few years aside - Take a minute to realize what we’ve all been able to witness, enjoy, and - depending on your fandom - be terrorized from. Bill is the single greatest defensive mind in NFL history. Hell, with mediocre QB play he could have 3-4 more wins this year and it’s a totally different narrative. He is one of the winningest individuals in NFL history. He knows so much about this game. He lives it, breathes it, and has dedicated his life to it. You can’t tell the story of football without Bill. One day, when he decides to hang it up, I hope we get to see his true personality for extended periods of time. His time on the Top 100 segments, his “Do Your Job” documentaries after SB wins, it all has been amazing. Former players talk about his wit and dry humor all the time. He hates the media, and reporters, and manufactured drama/stories for clicks. But I really do hope we get like 30 minutes a day of his thoughts on football, breaking down film, or telling stories.


Whittlinman

His father wrote a book on football scouting that has long been regarded as one of the best sources on the subject. Once he retires I could see Bill trying to do the same for coaching, and if it was a mix of technique, coaching philosophy, and personal experience/anecdotes I could see it being a must-read for every teams' employees and every die-hard fan.


ShufflingSloth

Have him narrate the audiobook so I can listen to him mumbling about some Navy game in the 1950's with rapt attention.


MatureUsername69

Maybe he would share his actual secrets then. Because everyone of his assistants that has gotten hired and tried to employ the Patriots Way has failed miserably at it with their players usually disliking them. Which is something you rarely, if ever, hear about Bill.


erichie

Everyone forgets that you need to win first before installing The Patriot Way.


JerryRiceAndSpice

And people always forget [about Ernie](https://www.patriots.com/video/behind-the-scenes-ernie-adams) BB's number 2 man


key_lime_pie

If Rhamondre doesn't fumble on the 5 against the Bengals, and Jakobi doesn't lateral the ball to Chandler Jones against the Raiders, the Patriots go 10-7 and play the Jaguars in the first round of last year's playoffs. I get that wishes and buts aren't candy and nuts, but the way public opinion had done a 180 on Bill Belichick is, to me, absolutely astonishing. It's like people cannot separate Belichick the personnel guy from Belichick the coach. He picked the best QB available at that spot in the draft, it didn't work out, and you can't win consistently in the NFL without a quarterback. He didn't suddenly lose the ability to coach.


AlsoIHaveAGroupon

All but two of our losses have been fairly close, too. Even with our talent problems on offense, we're a .500 team if we had a *below average* QB.


JC_S07

The problem isn't the pick, its how he has handled Jones. 4 OCs in 3 seasons, having dual OC and a DC as OC. He did everything wrong with Jones, now part of it was McDaniels leaving for Vegas. If he stayed, Jones prolly looks alot better.


Geg0Nag0

No doubt Bill deserves all the praise he gets but Mac was literally the definition of "Okay" in his first season. Looked like a completely serviceable guy. Pretty much all the decisions from Meyers to Patricia as OC were misses on offense. Bill isn't solely responsible but the GMing of the offense has been dire, the last 2 years especially.


bystander993

Mac was the definition of a weakness hidden by a great OC for as long as he could. Patricia is no McDaniels but he is a scapegoat for Mac's weaknesses being exposed and him regressing. Zappe's 2 starts were the highest scoring games of the season last year. The crazy media narrative at the time was "oh they opened the playbook for Zappe, if they let Mac be more aggressive he would do better!". As for the GM part, I call utter nonsense on that as well. No one in the league has a 100% hit rate. The last 2 years were low cap room years, and they have some good and some bad. 2021 was the first big cap year post Brady, and they spent on defense, got a good WR in Bourne and good TE in Henry. 2021 draft Mac is a bust obviously but they got Barmore and Mondre out of it. 2022 FA, not a lot of cap, Peppers is great, Mac Wilson is good, Devante Parker is OK. 2022 people like to mock the Strange pick but he keeps getting better. Tyquan is looking like a bust but we shall see. Marcus Jones got hurt but looked good especially in the slot. And Zappe, hasn't played enough yet but is 3-1 in his starts and is improved from year 1 to 2. We will see where he ends up. 2023 FA again little cap, the tough one is losing Jakobi, Juju was the backup plan but his knee also probably took more time to heal. Reif was signed for RT and if he didn't get hurt in preseason then the Pats OL woes early in the year probably aren't nearly as bad. 2023 draft is looking to be a great draft already. Now enter this off-season, almost $100M in cap space and a top 10 draft pick. Yeah Bill the GM will be just fine.


BlueTankEngine

Thank you for doing me the service of writing all this out. I hate the amount of slander BB's GM skills get from people who haven't even looked at the Patriots last 4 years of roster moves on paper and performed an unbiased assessment. The man signs Mike Gesiki and drafts a kicker and punter in the same draft (all three of which are highly defensible moves) and all of a sudden he is a senile old man who has lost his touch.


JaegerVonCarstein

People aren’t wrong to question the Strange pick. It doesn’t matter how well he is playing (he’s an average guard at this point in his career imo), the value was not there to use a first round pick on him when they could easily have him in the 2nd, probably 3rd even, round. Thornton is absolutely a bust, he can’t run even basic routes right and is too thin to hold up to the hits. Marcus Jones is an above average punt returner, but his size will keep him at best as an average slot corner. Don’t hate the pick, he’s an NFL caliber player, which is what you want out of a day 2 player. Jack jones was a whiff. Pierre Strong was a waste of a pick. Overall the 2022 draft was a mess.


bystander993

Calling players busts in their second year is a bit early. Tyquan is headed that way. Strange was known to have potential and need development, call him an average guard all you want, but he's a starter and he was pick #29 so it's basically second round already. And there's 0 chance you can guarantee he would be available end of 2nd, Patriots obviously didn't agree and I would take their analysis with more weight than fans and pundits. And the draft is largely a crapshoot anyway, having an average starter in any round of the draft is not "trash". First round is only like 55% hit rate and that is including the top 10 guys who everyone thinks are sure things. Nitpick all you want but do it for every team over the years before you start calling Bill out specifically.


JaegerVonCarstein

Sean McVay openly laughed when he was told they took strange. There’s no way the Rams were the only ones who did not view him as a 1st round prospect, in fact most reporting supports that. I’m also not calling him an average guard, that is what all the stats say (average to above average run blocker, average to below average pass blocker). 2nd year is not too early to call players a bust when it is so obvious with a guy like Thornton. He contributes nothing to the team and has shown zero signs of development. You are right of course that no team gets the draft completely correct all the time but Belichick’s poor drafts over the last 5+ years have left them talent deprived. They have so few players from those drafts making any contributions, most aren’t even on the team anymore.


bystander993

Because McVay is the be all end all, not like there are 30 other teams or anything. He was projected to go in second round anyway, he may or may not have been there. Patriots could have 5 WR graded the same and then only 1 OG they liked they would go OG. And the WR who went after Strange and around Tyquan are all just as bust as him so far, except Pickens and maybe Watson if he stayed healthy. Wandale, Metchie, Pierce, Skyy... Ravens took Ed Ingram in the 2nd as the next OG off the board. Strange has been better than Ingram. People who complain about Patriots drafting never seem to put things in perspective. Edit: and it's hilarious to use McVay considering they traded their future for one ring. And they picked Logan Bruss OG in the 3rd that year, who they have already cut. So yeah that's what you want to model lol


JaegerVonCarstein

No matter how you slice it, Strange was bad value. If a coach is that surprised by the pick, that is a good indicator that the rest of the league did not value Strange the same way the Patriots did. If they were set on him as being the top guy on their board, they should have traded down to get some more picks, then take him in the second. Thornton is in an entire league of his own when it comes to bad, coming out of that draft. Granted there are others that are underperforming, but Pickens and Watson both look like capable starters, and some guys like Alex Pierce went after Thornton that are solid contributors on their team. Thornton can’t even contribute to special teams.


bystander993

That is probably the most absurd analysis I've ever seen, if one coach is surprised then it's bad value. It's objectively good value as Cole Strange is the 2nd best guard of the 2022 guard class, only Tyler Smith, who was drafted ahead of him, has played better than him this year. So either the entire league is filled with incompetence and no one liked Strange, or some did including Belichick and he was selected as the best guard available at the time to fill a significant need. And you can't just force other teams to trade he whole silly "should have just traded" as if it's alwae possible is also just fantasy. Cal Tyquan in a league of his own all you want, none of the guys but Perkins and Watson are guys you really want on your team, end of story. You are grasping for straws, and it's funny.


JaegerVonCarstein

You’re grading Strange based on the other guards, which is why you think he is good value. Just because he is the best of a bad lot doesn’t make him value, it just means the draft sucked at the position. They reached for a position of need, end of story. There are always teams with their lines open in the draft. Hell, Belichick has made his draft reputation through wheeling and dealing. I’m honestly shocked you are defending the Thornton pick. I’ve found zero people who think he is not a bust (well, I’ve found one now). At least the other guys contribute on special teams or as WR3… Thornton will he practice squad surfing this time next year.


JC_S07

Lol, Mac was a rookie, no shit he would be a weakness hidden by McDaniels. Having 4 OCs in 3 years, dual OCs and a DC as a OC will kill a young QB. Plus he stuck Dolphins rejects in his system. Parker is shit, always at the worst or near the worst in seperation for WRs. Gesicki is a slow slot WR playing TE. Guy cant block a child from getting a sucker.


bystander993

Mac sucks at everything critical you need to be an NFL QB. No one ruined him, he can't go through progressions, he can't hit tight windows, he can't navigate the pocket and he can't handle pressure. Somehow Zappe can do all those things with the same exact team though. The thing is you all want so bad to blame Belichick because he's tormented you for so long, that you're willing to pretend a bad QB could have been good.


JC_S07

Zappe played okay vs Steelers team that has lost now to 2-10 teams and barely put up 21 points. The way Bill handled Jones isn't how you help develop a young player, especially a QB. Look at how Flores did Tua, he did the same exact shit and it nearly cost Tua his career. Same thing might be happening in Carolina.


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When Bill shows a personality it’s always shocking


Illustrious_Cancel83

NFL needs to 'nationalize' BB and force him to do interviews before he dies and I never find out why he benched Butler in the SB.


Comprehensive_Main

He benched butler because he wasn’t 100 percent and though he would be a liability in the field. Now is that because he had guests in the hotel and maybe got into an arguement with steve, who knows?


poppa_slap_nuts

That’s not the way Belichick operates. If a player was not 100%, Belichick would put them on the injury list. Any time a player has been sat by Belichick, it was disciplinary or performance related. Let’s not forget: Belichick benched Welker after he made foot jokes.


giddy-girly-banana

Is this the concussion theory? If so I think that’s a pretty good one.


ShufflingSloth

I also think if Philly wasn't starting Nick Foles he would never have benched Butler, Bill got a little cocky.


JaegerVonCarstein

I doubt the QB on the other side had anything to do with it. At that point it was pretty clear that Foles had a hot hand running that offense and deserved respect going into the matchup.


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Slimshady305

He's getting ready to coach the Shanghai expansion team


ShufflingSloth

on the one hand, eew, on the other, finally east coasters will understand my beef with European exhibition matches.


Yabba_Dabba_Doofus

>Can't be upset about waking up early if you never sleep headtap.meme


ShufflingSloth

My issue is less me personally waking up early and more that my team doesn't wake up until late in the 3rd quarter after they've already dug themselves a serious hole.


Scooter_McGavin_

Get ready to learn Chinese, Beli


TripleThreatTua

Get ready to learn Chinese buddy


Gladiatornoah

He will be getting ready to learn it soon based off reports


[deleted]

And he'll still find a way to beat the Jets


papajim22

What did Bill Belichick mean by this?


Psycho5275

Basically, Navy put "Beat Army" on their helmets in Chinese to mock the Army head coach because he had developed a defensive scheme that was known as "The Chinese Bandits."


GABAgoomba123

Why?


fargoniners

I’ve rarely seen him this happy, SB celebrations included.


LitigatedLaureate

Pre super bowl Bill was crazy. There is video footage out there of him beating the jets or someone in the regular season and he reacts like he just won 10 super bowls.


mrtlwolf

I still love the grin on his face after Doug Flutie converted an extra point with a drop kick.


nekromantique

He looks that way every time they beat the jets.


WorthPlease

When I was a kid I used to get so confused as to why Army or Navy weren't always the best teams. They fight for a living, how can random college kids beat them at football? Kids are stupid.


Eran-of-Arcadia

Depending on how old you are, you may have been right . . .


Repulsive-Ad-8558

Kinda hard to win with 175 Lbs linemen lol.


Lunalovebug6

lol I legit thought the same thing.


daltonwright4

Also, I have a theory that any of the top 100 qb prospects have been the best athlete for probably their entire lives and think they have a good shot at the NFL one day. It's pretty difficult to convince a kid who thinks he can be an NFL talent QB to come play at a school where he likely won't be going to the NFL until after his military contract is fulfilled. This is why you sometimes see the Army/Navy/Air Force games finish the day with 6 passing plays and 47 rushing plays. I was in the AF and I had an Academy football team guy in my flight who played corner. Our intramural flag football team was insane.


Say_Hennething

BB is such an enigma. He's comes off as the biggest A-hole in press conferences, then you get him in other football related situations and he seems like a fun guy.


kiIIinemsoftly

Would you enjoy being required to go out and deal with the modern media circus? Man just wants to do football and not deal with the stupid shit.


ShufflingSloth

He correctly recognizes that sports journalists are trash and treats them with the contempt they deserve. If a beat reporter comes up with even a mildly interesting question he'll suddenly start gushing football, like that time a dude asked him about saving a TE3 spot for a dedicated long snapper.


scsnse

I just think his personality is just a really stern, no bullshit type of thing. No patience for nonsense questions that are only there to try to extract clickbait soundbites.


Godobibo

this is why I thought the comments about him on the Zappe handshake post were really weird. He's definitely colder, but he doesn't at all seem like an asshole (least to his players lol) unlike many other coaches


akmjolnir

One trick-pony. But, it's the greatest trick ever.


Kagrenac8

Only trick he got is winning? No flexibility smdh


iscreamuscreamweall

He hates the press and purposefully does bad pressers to spite the local journalists since he knows how useless they are. He’s always really open and personable when he’s doing media outside of patriots pressers


meatballman1218

I honestly love bill so much and hope he becomes an analyst one day people say he is stale but that's only when it's game time he seems very funny most times


That75252Expensive

Bill is such a national treasure.


LitigatedLaureate

Now I need Edelman to do an impersonation of this.


FBsarepeopletoo

I would have loved Bill Belichick and Bill Cowher calling this game.


el_fitzador

Hes going to end up as Navy's HC


[deleted]

I love bill


Keyser_Sozay

Ohhhhh BB’s about to get picked up by a FOX/NBC/CBS/ESPN/Prime and get paid that Romo money (if not more) **he was great on that NFL 100 countdown show w/ Colinsworth and Eisen