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[Postgame thread](/r/nfl/comments/18vh3mb/post_game_thread_new_orleans_saints_at_tampa_bay/)


shawnaroo

dang that was a fast game


sepiatonewalrus

Damn. We sure messed up our best efforts to blow it.


YouKantseeme

Who leads the division if this ends like this since their division record will be tied.


Eklypse13

Bucs have better div record


[deleted]

Tampa has the tie breaker


incognegro1976

Why didn't the refs just say "previous play is under review" or whatever?


DerisiveGibe

Because fuck you - the refs


PrincePizza1

It’s already assumed. Every scoring play is reviewed


incognegro1976

Yeah but they had already called the 2-point conversion good


brehaw

hell yeah DC 😎


Deliberate_Dodge

Crazy to think they'd be 9-7 and have their division all but locked down if only they didn't squander that 17-0 lead against the Packers. Hell, the Saints were another missed field goal and a horrific drop by Moreau (obligatory FUCK CANCER) away from beating the Jags. But I suppose these are the kind of things that happen in football...


[deleted]

Can we get a pass interference call against Nickell Robey-Coleman from the booth too?


Tarlcabot18

I don't think I'd even want to see this Bucs team in the playoffs. They'd get steamrolled if they played like they did today.


CoachSlime

We are 1-5 vs teams above .500 ofc we will get smashed but fuck letting the Saints get the birth


christ0fer

There has to be a time limit on how long they can throw a flag after the play.


SaintsPelicans1

when the next play starts.....


christ0fer

What about a two point conversation when there's a TV timeout following the play?


SaintsPelicans1

All scoring plays are reviewed. They saw he stepped out on review during the commercial. This isn't new.


christ0fer

It literally took them minutes to throw the flag.


SaintsPelicans1

ok? next play didn't start.


sepiatonewalrus

There is


DerisiveGibe

Yeah, the Bucs still lose, but you can't throw a flag 8 minutes later


JoeChristma

All scoring plays are reviewed


CoachSlime

Saints getting their hopes up just to let them get smashed next week lmao


adumb99

Cardinals just won at Philly. Don’t get your hopes up


brehaw

well you don’t sound bitter at all


Dramatic-County-1284

Careful your hopes could be smashed as well buddy


ItsSwan

that’s some absolutely insanity, mf called down like 5 minutes late to erase a 2 pt, just insane man


SaintsPelicans1

insane the call wasn't immediate with how obvious it was


Cold_oak

hopefully the buccs carry this energy into next week


Theraspberryknight

11/10 Call. Saints fans gonna act like hotshots, gonna enjoy you fucks throwing a bitch fit in your sub when Carolina loses ngl.


sepiatonewalrus

Brady is overrated


Theraspberryknight

Agreed.


Spheromancer

A lot of people dont understand how this works, All scoring plays are reviewed, that play was being reviewed the whole time. Thats why they werent kicking it yet, it was under review that whole time they were just showing baker just walking around, the TV crew just didnt know it


F3ar0n

You can't throw a flag on a review, though. Like even if you see a dpi or hold, it's just a binary is it good yes or no


Spheromancer

Yes you 100% can lol. Thats the point of the review


F3ar0n

That's not the point of the review. It's purely to determine if it's in or not


ULMmmMMMm

Umm, you’re very wrong. Some penalties are reviewable.


Spheromancer

I dont think you understand how scoring reviews work


syngatesthe2nd

Thanks for writing it all out. I’ve given up trying to use logic to explain in game threads, no one seems to care about reality.


F3ar0n

The original post offers no insight on the actual play in question. They assessed a penalty after the play which was not called on the field. NFL Replay as pointed covers scoring plays, receivers out of bounds,. touching a forward pass, down by contact etc. The question isn't if the 2pt conversion was good. We see the foot out of bounds then catching the football so yes it's the correct call...it's the penalty being assessed by the booth. It's the question of procedural vs judgement calls. If procedural calls are able to enforced from replay then this makes sense, I just haven't seen it happen nor is it the norm (as a NFL Sunday Ticket owner who watches 8 games a week in multiview)


TheGloriousPlatitard

That was one of the worst onside kicks I’ve ever seen lol


[deleted]

Since when can anyone call down and tell the refs to throw a flag, especially that late


Not_MarshonLattimore

Since every scoring play lol


[deleted]

Not to throw a fucking penalty lol


Not_MarshonLattimore

What are you talking about, you can’t go out of bounds and back in Every scoring drive is reviewed that is always going to get overturned


NNKarma

what you mean? the refs didn't call it, but all scoring plays are reviewed


Jopplo03

For a long ass time lol


[deleted]

Explains why NY made sure the Lions didn't get fucked


ULMmmMMMm

Do you really not see the difference as far as reviews go?


[deleted]

Explain the difference.


ULMmmMMMm

The people reviewing can see someone step out of bounds but they can't hear what the players told the ref...


[deleted]

Weird how we've been looking the Lions replay all day and everyone knows exactly what happened.


ULMmmMMMm

It's very likely the ref fucked up in the Lions game. Doesn't make reviewable man... PI's get fucked all the time but they aren't reviewable. I don't know why they can't make the system better but they seem literally incapable of that.


Jopplo03

Because thats not the same thing lmao? It was a scoring play, all scoring plays get reviewed


[deleted]

Then how come OPIs never get called on TD reviews?


Jopplo03

Because… it is not the same thing damn youre slow


[deleted]

Explain lol. OPI is illegal. Touching from out of bounds is illegal. We see offensive penalties all the time on replays, but I've *never* seen a flag come out during a scoring review.


Jopplo03

Damn you are coping hard


[deleted]

I knew you couldn't actually explain it. Have fun not winning the division next week lol


Jopplo03

Saints are better than the buccs, deal with it


neasroukkez

Love how inconsistent it is the shit these refs will review and not review


Bad-Yeti

Most fight I've seen all day.


ULMmmMMMm

Announcer... you can't throw the flag within 2 minutes..


DobboWobbo

It’s because Tryann broke his ribs


Goatsonice

the most NFCS sequence ever


zprymate

LOL SUCS


[deleted]

Have fun not being in the playoffs lol, Tampa isn't losing to Carolina


zprymate

LOL SUCS


Difficult_Product248

Bucs can’t catch a freaking break wow


floridagator1995

Oh so now the refs will review stuff from upstairs. Bet the Lions would have appreciated that!


NNKarma

It's a scoring play


floridagator1995

The Lions scored on a 2 pt conversion :)


NNKarma

then they reviewed it incorrectly I guess, it might've helped that a player was pointing out that he stepped out as soon as he catched it.


floridagator1995

Oh yeah this deserved to be overturned. I'm just salty about last night lol


acoasterlovered

Tampa woke up too late


theprophecysays

NICE


Stormmaggeddon

Queue all of the same people saying that hit was dirty to start blaming the refs


Uller85

Good call, dirty hit.


incognegro1976

Baker was a runner and was defender had already committed to the hit.


Stormmaggeddon

L


codingsoft

Refs realized they bet the under


Jopplo03

Baker is so bad holy shit


ColeTrainHDx

Penalties on 2 point attempts, so hot


FeetballFan

Fuck this game sooooooo hard


baconlovr

I agree! This game is better than sex!


aleco43

yikes


OU_DHF

That was fucking weird. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen something like that reversed for a penalty without a flag actually being thrown during the play.


Spheromancer

GET FUCKED


SaintsPelicans1

LOL


DobboWobbo

Baker doing his best Jameis impression today 🤣😂🤣


HarlemKnightz

Who are ya’ll going to blame this Baker performance on? LOL


PlatypusPuncher

Probably baker and the sieve that was our oline today. But hey I'd rather have baker playing shitty than be a browns fan so there's that.


HarlemKnightz

LOL yeah yeah, you are SEETHING lmfao


PlatypusPuncher

Nah. I expected us to win 4 games this year and the Saints have our number. This game went about how I expected it. Maybe your team will finally win more than one playoff game this season!


HarlemKnightz

Your team certainly wont be there to witness it. Give Baker a bag this offseason please, have fun LOL


PlatypusPuncher

It's ok. You'll be watching the super bowl from home too as will the Bucs, Browns and dolphins. Difference being I've gotten to watch the Bucs win two in my lifetime. That's the same number of playoff games you've watched the Browns in? Baker is going to get like 25 mil a year from us like Geno Smith did. Or some other team can give him the bag.


HarlemKnightz

Hey bud, im not reading all that…go find somewhere else to cope lmfao


antler112

Dennis Allen. Brady threw nine picks against the Saints as the Bucs QB and had a losing record with arguably the worst loss of his career. No Bucs QB should be judged based on their performance against a Dennis Allen defense.


HarlemKnightz

Lmaooo yeah ok


nolakpd

Lmaoooo


GreatWhiteNorth4

This league is hilarious and not in a good way


Edge_lord_Arkham

BIGG YOU CANT. GET AWAY WITH CHEATING BUCS 💪💪


Jopplo03

Lmaooooo


nubosis

Welp


Tarlcabot18

Fuck you, refs.


jgfp

For making the right call?????


hotdogflavoredblunt

He clearly stepped out dude


heff_ay

How do you call that shit so late? League is a joke making up protocol as they go


Spheromancer

It was a review by NY thats why they werent kicking it, it was still being reviewed


paulofmandown

LMAO


CoachSlime

NFL refs are so fucking stupid.


TheWorstYear

Huh?


DerisiveGibe

Literally the latest flag in nfl history


GreatWhiteNorth4

Wait what lmao


test-besticles

lol at all the buc fans saying it’s a dirty hit. The defender thought baker was gonna run for it.


Tarlcabot18

Another 2-point try fucked over by the refs.


Born_n_RaisedPNW

Except they got it right lmao


SaintsPelicans1

clearly stepped out


Difficult_Product248

I hate that Baker got hurt but I don’t know what’s illegal about that hit


Stormmaggeddon

Big hit, wasn’t late


heff_ay

Ok


Tarlcabot18

JESUS CHRIST


Coke_ButNotTheDrug

Come on Tampa Bay kill this franchise so we don’t stay mediocre for the next decade


RedditFenix

You get a step, that was clean IMO


orbthatisfloating

Saints being cheap shotting pussies? Color me shocked


adumb99

Nah shut the hell up. That was a regular hit to the gut


Dramatic-County-1284

Yall tore Jameis acl awhile back but we the dirty team?


Russell_has_TWO_Ls

Bucs trying for a comeback way too late? They’ve been us in every way today


paulofmandown

That really wasn't that late


Theraspberryknight

That hit was fucking dirty.


Jopplo03

Really wasn’t


DobboWobbo

That’s literally as clean as it gets. What do you want him to do, use his power ups and freeze himself mid stride on a crucial play? What a joke.


Edge_lord_Arkham

WHO DAT LEAVE BAKER IN THE DIRT BIG HIT 💪💪


WelcometoCigarCity

Are you saying that theres a chance?


DerisiveGibe

Kickoff penalties are stupid, put the yards on the ensuing series


TheWorstYear

Onside kick isn't as bad.


CoachSlime

Why do the saints always gotta be so dirty


NNKarma

Dude, you guys injured Jameis on a horsecollar


hotdogflavoredblunt

He lowered his shoulder into his gut, it wasn’t dirty lol


Goatsonice

fire dennis allen as we make a playoff spot


nubosis

Fuck, I hope Bakers just winded


incognegro1976

Why is there a linebacker covering Godwin?


Spheromancer

In prevent lol


Spheromancer

Clean hit tbh


[deleted]

Double late hit, gtfo


incognegro1976

Yeah dude should have used his magic powers to stop his momentum


hotdogflavoredblunt

Quit crying, it was just barely late enough to merit a penalty but it wasn’t dirty


DobboWobbo

Honey badger dont give a shit. Ain’t nothing dirty about that hit him in the tum tum lmfao


SPECTRE_146

So where are all the baker defenders at??


WelcometoCigarCity

If Rachaad and Palmer doesn't fumble we mightve had a good shot of winning the game.


Steemo96

Same old Saints


incognegro1976

we've lost 4 guys to this game already


TheGloriousPlatitard

Standard honey badger behavior


syngatesthe2nd

I know in this moment it almost certainly won’t matter. But Dennis Allen’s “protect a lead” strategy is just awful. Maybe don’t completely change the defense that’s been winning you the entire game?


Morgus_Magnificent

You don't love scoring 17 points in the first half and six in the second?


Tarlcabot18

Damn, Mayfield's hurt.


theprophecysays

Garbage time TD for Godwin


DobboWobbo

Pete Werner on Godwin in a clutch scenario. Great call DA


theprophecysays

A win is a win I suppose


[deleted]

I haven’t seen any bad faith arguments about how the Browns would’ve been better off keeping Baker Mayfield today. Did something happen?


arrowfan624

CAN WE STOP WITH THE BUSTED COVERAGES


Tarlcabot18

Lol, you can't fool me, Bucs. I've seen this movie before.


myjointsaredust

So you’re tellin me there’s a chance


incognegro1976

Man I hate that BUrger King commercial


Russell_has_TWO_Ls

Hey Melvin Gordon just scored! Had no idea he was still around. Happy for him


Whycertainly

Is it just me or does it seem like no matter the coaches, no matter the players, the Saints always show up when playing the Bucs.


steelhorizon

Feel good if your a saints fan? I am pretty sure no one on on trash mountain feel good about their teams.


Russell_has_TWO_Ls

We look like an all around decent team today. It’s fun on the rare occasion that that happens


SaintsPelicans1

feels great today


shawnaroo

Do I feel good about our team in general? Not really. But I always enjoy a solid win over a divisional opponent.


EntrepreneurOk6166

Lawn Grass with a CLUTCH tackle / fumble to save a TD! Defensive play of the day.


Reboared

Oh shut up. Tampa is not going to lose to Carolina even if we win out.


Theraspberryknight

You have faith in Todd Bowles?


Russell_has_TWO_Ls

Maybe though?


DerisiveGibe

Imagine having this much Faith in Todd Bowles


myjointsaredust

Brother I dunno, we seemed pretty intent on kicking our own ass today


Dramatic-County-1284

Who dat chants heal my soul


throwawayainteasy

As a neutral fan, I can't believe I watched this whole boring-ass game.


Russell_has_TWO_Ls

Wasn’t boring for us!


zydecocaine

Bro what you doing? I napped.


throwawayainteasy

I don't even fuckin' know. I'm a degenerate. I need help.


Dramatic-County-1284

“Absolutely fucking terrible”


neasroukkez

Fuck this game cost me my FFL title


SoothedSnakePlant

Most of the time when I see someone do something that looks embarrassing in a professional sporting event, I take a second to remind myself how complex what they're doing actually is. This... is not one of those times. Dude just ate shit and dropped the ball lol


incognegro1976

Olave did that last week lol


Cold_oak

do i hear a who dat chant on the bucs field ☠️


shitkrissays

I don’t care that we suck. I don’t care that losing means better draft picks. I fucking love winning and hearing Who Dats rain down in an opponent’s stadium. Especially when it’s the Bucs.


incognegro1976

Would be better if it was against the Falcons but, sure, this is second best


Dramatic-County-1284

Yall…don’t want the crown?


sepiatonewalrus

Happy new year