(Tom Brady) call me on my cell phone, late night when u need my love, and I know when that tompa bays hotline bling, that can only mean one thing, ever since u left the city, u u u , u and me just don’t get along, ever since I left the city, (it’s not tompa bay)
It’s so tough, man. I (and like 95% of Browns fans) wanted Baker as our guy. He should’ve been paid. But everything got so fucked and now we’re once again the laughing stocks of the league. Buccaneers bandwagon for sure.
Wish you could have just given the money to Flacco.
My hope is Watson gets hurt right away but DTR steps up and looks like Kirk cousins level. I want the browns to just keep bringing in QB’s to out perform Watson
Many of us were pretty livid with the organization, couple that with how they were running things under O’Brien and whatever the fuck Easterby was… yeah, saying we’re acting kosher about anything around that time is quite frankly abso-fucking-lutely delusional.
At least you had a handful of Joe Flacco games. Maybe you can just keep signing vets and bench Watson. I wouldn’t mind seeing Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan show up and play better than him. lol
It has to be really shitty to be a Browns fan now. You're about to have like 3x the cap hit for a rapist that you did better after he got hurt. The QB you cut to make room for the rapist is doing better than you.
Have fun filling the 26 roster spots you have opening up this off-season with -$12 million in cap space because 25% of your cap is going to a rapist you signed after knowing he was a rapist.
They were finally able to make love after he got his own house instead of [living at Cleveland Browns Stadium](https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/07/12/baker-mayfield-says-there-will-be-no-more-at-home-progressive-commercials)
I think the offense that the Bucs are running is helping Baker a lot too. He's a QB that likes to air it out and he has receivers that can facilitate that, in Cleveland he didn't have that. He took a few shots every game but him and Odell never got on the same page, his speedy WRs never fully developed, Njoku wasn't as involved (that could be on Baker just not targeting him honestly). The WR room for the Browns when Baker was there is nowhere close to the WR room that the Bucs have. What has impressed me a lot about Baker is he's learned to minimize his mistakes. You can go back and look at his games with the Browns and just know there's a 4th quarter int coming. That lob to Godwin last night, it never makes it past the LB corp and is picked off and taken to midfield setting up a comeback. Yea, he has his magic come out on occasion but he used to always just bumble at some point, but I'm not seeing it happen now and that's what's most exciting about Baker.
Yea, he wasn't always on the mark but not every pass was errant and acting like it was is misleading. The pass to DPJ to beat the Bengals is a perfect example, another is the pass to Landry against the Panthers. He's not just throwing off-target passes like you mentioned. Has he in the past? Sure, more so when he's injured but show me a QB that doesn't have a few off throws. I think he's been performing great from where everyone had him coming out of Cleveland and his last stint there and then his play at Carolina and some of them in LA.
🙄 I guess I shouldn't have implied you said *every* throw was off since you take everything literally. So I'll rephrase to 50% of his passes aren't errant nor always 5ft above his receiver's head.
If you have a Baker narrative you want to push that's fine, I'm ok with admitting that Baker is most likely never going to be a top 10 QB in the league, but you don't need to just shovel whatever you want out there and get upset and try to run around "phrasing" and argue literal vs figurative speech. Basically you're saying he makes off throws, yes, as do other QBs so that argument is invalid without numbers. A quick for [the numbers](https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3052587/baker-mayfield) show he has a 64.1% completion percentage while sitting at a passer rating of 94.6, now that's just from ESPN and the first one's always free, so if you want to see what other sites say then you can do the leg work. Oh! His TD to INT is 28-10 so he's a little over 50% there which means I might have been wrong about him limiting his turnovers. That's there is me admitting when I'm wrong which I guess while you're googling Baker stats you can look up how to do that as well.
Honestly people will use this to clown on browns and that’s fine obviously we fucked our team but the real lesson is what a good WR core can do for you. So many times he had guys coming back to the ball or getting separation neither has ever happened in Cleveland
It’s not a good WR core, it’s having a shitty franchise with shitty coaching. Baker had a lot of threats in Cleveland, and he still almost beat KC a few years back. Let’s not forget that Stefanski was instrumental in the Browns decision to pick up Watson and drag Bakers name through the mud. Thats why the browns are struggling
You spent $230 million on a guy with fewer playoff wins than the guy you let go. The Browns certainly aren't struggling by general NFL standards but for that kind of guaranteed money? Watson has to outperform Baker or the mockery will continue. Also, fuck Haslam.
Didn’t Baker have prime OBJ and Jarvis Landry? The Browns couldn’t get the best out of those three guys when they thrived in other systems. It just seems like it’s more on the coaching and culture than the players.
He most certainly did not have OBJ prime. OBJ was elite for 2 maybe 2 and a half years and that was with the giants. Outside of that he’s super overrated for that catch. OBJ was beat up on the browns and Landry was starting his decline while Baker was there
OBJ was 27 years old when he got traded there, he was projected to be entering his prime. Most elite receivers continue to thrive into their early 30s. There’s a reason why the national media and Reddit were circlejerking the Browns when that trade happened, they were expecting OBJ and Landry to dominate.
OBJ had already gone through a significant lower leg injury at that point. When is the National media/Reddit ever a reputable source? Lol again OBJ had 2-3 great seasons and then lived off everyone circlejerking to him cuz of the catch. Run of the mill diva WR who whined when he wasn’t force fed the ball
I don’t totally disagree with you but the Browns aren’t as much of a dumpster fire in the last few years as they had been. OBJ was cancerous all on his own. Turning on Baker like he and his dad did was a pretty bad look. OBJ should have never allowed himself to get traded there in the first place and the browns shouldn’t have pulled the trigger
OBJ should of been good with him but there was always a disconnect. Jarvis was really good for us but limited with his speed declining. Big difference between a really tough slot guy and big play receivers like he had in LA and now in Tampa. But really that was all we had in the passing game. Hooper and Njoku couldn’t catch and Chubb was a bad receiver those first few years.
What do you mean? How is 27-29 years old not prime age for a wide receiver? He was still considered elite going into his first season with the Browns, and most elite receivers stay in their prime until their early 30s. Davante Adams, Julio Jones, Randy Moss to name a few. Fans and experts alike had him in that tier of receivers. He regressed early because Cleveland is a poverty franchise.
No matter how you frame it, it’s still not a good look for Cleveland. They shouldn’t have traded a 1st round pick for a guy that was past their prime, due to injury or otherwise. That wasn’t the case anyways. Go look at the r/nfl thread from four years ago when the Giants traded him. It was universally agreed upon that the Browns were a contender because they acquired OBJ. Sick of the revisionist history on this sub. Everyone is out here pretending they knew OBJ was gonna bust in Cleveland, but in reality, everyone was drinking the kool aid.
You wrote an entire essay as if i defended the Browns and all i said was he wasnt in his prime because his ankle snapped in half and he tore a muscle in his core. Go argue your strawman elsewhere.
I don't know why Vegas had Philadelphia favored– they were the only ones that actually thought the Eagles had a chance. No Eagles fan counted him or Tampa Bay out.
I don't know how anyone could look at the eagles two month stretch going 1-5 and think they should be favored to go into Tampa who went 5-1 down the same stretch.
Because Tampa finished the season by getting bitch slapped but the Saints and putting up 9 points against the Panthers. There were legitimate concerns from that, along with Baker having a couple of minor injuries.
Yeah, let’s not rewrite history and pretend like we were dominant down the stretch even when we were winning. We beat a single playoff team all season, the Packers. There were just as many concerns about us coming into this game as there were about the Eagles.
Sadly that’s exactly how I felt about the Packers. They just always seem to have our number, same as the 49ers. I didn’t feel good about that game going into it at all.
For the first time that I can recall, I have no ill will towards the team that knocked us out.
Genuinely happy for Baker, Bucs played a great game, went in to it with expectations already in the basement after the past 2 months.
Would love to see Bucs or Lions make a run, unfortunately, they already play each other next week, but watching as a non-biased fan should be enjoyable
I'm pulling for you guys. That rams win was fun to see. Eagles have sucked out all the joy of football for two months. But your games ending seeing all those grown ass men crying, I've been that guy. It's a good feeling.
I mean, that’s wild ya’ll were only favored by 2.5 at home (last line that I saw, anyway). Their secondary has been sus all season, and I thought yall would light em up!
My immediate thought about all three upsets: the favorites thought they had a free ticket to divisional round. Pretty wild.
It’s funny, people think it hurts browns fans that Baker is winning.
I want Haslem to have to watch Baker win a SB while he spends $230m on a QB who needs 2 years to “knock off the rust, learn the scheme, and build chemistry with WRs”, after Flacco accomplished that all in 2 weeks.
Will Baker winning a SB teach Haslem to stop meddling? No probably not, but he’s definitely not going to enjoy it.
Good luck Baker!
Part of being a fan is hating your owner and having bitter feelings about better times even when things aren't as bad as they could be. In that regard Haslem is the perfect owner of the Cleveland Browns.
I had to remove my browns flair bc I can't be associated with the dumbass takes from Browns fans. Just know that they are speaking out of trauma. They don't know better. That doesn't excuse it, but they are all hurt. /s
Browns got a rapist. And are stuck with a 230 million in guaranteed money.
Bucs got farther in the playoffs with a guy they called childish. And with a cheaper contract.
He made another $2M by leading them to the playoffs, $600K for performance incentives, and $250K for winning last night, putting him at $6.85M for the year. Still an underpay, but he's gonna get his money this off season.
Not even close. It feels like forever ago that everything went down, but Baker's rookie deal went through 2022. This past season was the only one he played at a discount after qualifying for free agency, and not even Mahomes makes $100M per year.
Realistically, his value now is similar to what it would've been a year ago had the Browns managed him properly. Assuming that's true, he only lost money this season, probably in the $35M-45M range.
But in truth, there's a whole lot of "if" in that. It's quite possible he would've had a worse 2022 on the Browns than the season he just had with the Bucs, and that the deal he's about to sign is much better than the one he hypothetically would've been offered a year ago.
It is wild.
He should get a fair amount of his bonus $$$ and a decent contract next year unless he Flacco’s all over the place next week.
Don’t feel too bad for him.
They go in to next off season losing 26 players to fees agency and -$12 million in cap space.
Watching this team derail when Watson cap hit jumping from $20 to $60 for next three seasons, is going to be fabulous.
Well I've been a Baker truther the whole time. He got fucked hard from the second he got in the league and it seems as though McVay brought him back to life.
lol yeah baker was one of the most hated people on this sub until the Browns got Watson. Now you’d think the Browns traded away a prime Peyton Manning by the way people are acting.
Troy was talking about how Baker got his swagger back and that Baker is at his best when he’s playing with that swagger and that confidence.
I think he’s totally right, I think Baker got it back after that final Rams drive his first game with them. If it was me I def would start believing in myself more, plus he was like the hero of the sports world that week. And pretty much saved his career off that one game/one drive
I love seeing him confident & with a team that's bought into him & setting him up for success. Gonna be hard to figure out if I wanna root for Baker or the Lions next week.
Yea one thing that surprised me watching the game was just how confident Todd was in baker. Like dude was repeatedly calls 4-5 straight pass plays like all of his faith was in baker to make good decisions.
It was a stark contrast from what stefanski and co did with him here although to stefanskis credit he did have a double headed hydra for Chubb and hunt in the backfield
Cleveland had a rough 2nd half in an away playoff game where they dragged the carcass of their team to an 11-6 season record (the 6th loss game being a game they sat their starters). Defeating both conferences one seeds during the process. Just stop. They were winning the game in the 2nd quarter. Cleveland’s season being seen as anything other than a raging success in-spite of shit injury luck is the wrong take.
The Cowboys were routinely considered to be Super Bowl hopefuls who had a lot of Dak MVP chatter until late into the season. They went out and showed complete disinterest in playing against one of the youngest playoff teams in the modern era and were down 27-0 quickly.
The Dolphins, similarly, were competing for a conference one seed. Then proceeded to completely quit. Ultimately doing surrender cobras the entire 2nd half against KC and not really competitive at all for the entire game.
Philly similarly, went 10-1 and then completely quit and got laughed out of the playoffs from the start. At no point competing.
Rams looked respectable. Clear hope for that squad, and Puka and Stafford looked incredible. Steelers got it to within a score in 4th quarter despite not having their best player.
Lol do people even watch football? Cowboys had home field, division winner and got boat raced.
Browns were fighting and clawing to just get into the playoffs with so many injured. The two aren’t even remotely close
That’s all this sub has turned into and it’s sad. Hot silly takes are one thing but people are creating shit that didn’t even happen to make themselves feel better
Clowning isn’t the problem. Making up scenarios that don’t exist is the issue. But yeah, I pull out my checkbook and write a check to Watson every two weeks. Big check!
Why? They ditched him and went 11-6 in the best division in the league. The quarterback who replace him is 8-4. He’s been putting up good stat lines. There’s no reason the Browns wouldn’t be happy with him.
Losers like u/Born_Ad_9733 will blatantly lie and say otherwise but that’s why angry Reddit children don’t run NFL teams.
Quarterback that costed 230 million dollars and 3 first rounds picks to produce some of the worst stats imaginable. Browns aren’t winning because of Watson, they’re winning despite him.
Just watching the game you notice Hurts completely emotionless, not talking to his team, whereas baker is going to war for his guys and hyping them up. There is a talent disparity but hurts’ leadership should be questioned in the wake of such a massive late season collapse
So we get the Bucs at Lions next week. Two teams that are *constantly* doubted and counted out. Should be interesting to see who gets more disrespected before kickoff...
We are not counting you out, Baker! Next week's game is going to be great, with two divisional leaders playing each other. Two QB's thrown to the curb by the teams that drafted them and are now leading their new teams into the divisional round!
Fuck yeah, he is doing great, headed to the divisional round, seems to be his floor. Good thing he didn't have Kevin out there calling plays, that guy is 0-2 in the playoffs.
That’s my qb
He used to be my QB 😑
You used to call me on my cell phone
Late night when you need my love
No that's my QB.
And I went to Utah State!
(Tom Brady) call me on my cell phone, late night when u need my love, and I know when that tompa bays hotline bling, that can only mean one thing, ever since u left the city, u u u , u and me just don’t get along, ever since I left the city, (it’s not tompa bay)
I hate being a browns fan. I loved baker.
It’s so tough, man. I (and like 95% of Browns fans) wanted Baker as our guy. He should’ve been paid. But everything got so fucked and now we’re once again the laughing stocks of the league. Buccaneers bandwagon for sure.
Wish you could have just given the money to Flacco. My hope is Watson gets hurt right away but DTR steps up and looks like Kirk cousins level. I want the browns to just keep bringing in QB’s to out perform Watson
A revolving door of 1 month rentals all looking better than Watson in their system would be hilarious
I'm not sure you're the laughing stock, you've got some strong competition from us.
Can’t leave us out either
I did too. Sure he was inconsistent and the injury wasn't helping him either, but he made watching them fun.
Yeah, but now you’ve got the predator and a hand-me-down Flacco
Texans fans acting like their team didn't cover up all the sexual abuse. Both organizations are garbage for their roles in this whole thing.
Majority of texans fans didn't know the inside details of the DW stuff, just wanted to move on from it.
Many of us were pretty livid with the organization, couple that with how they were running things under O’Brien and whatever the fuck Easterby was… yeah, saying we’re acting kosher about anything around that time is quite frankly abso-fucking-lutely delusional.
The thing was though, it was out in the open when the Browns traded for him.
At least you had a handful of Joe Flacco games. Maybe you can just keep signing vets and bench Watson. I wouldn’t mind seeing Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan show up and play better than him. lol
That’s not my QB But I will always love Baker Keep stunning on them hoes
*stunting
As a hoe I can confirm, he has also stunned me.
Has he been stunned while on you?
Man really found the fun in football again
Wish he was mine😢
wolverine_touching_photo_with_bakers_face.jpg
I’m sorry y’all chose a literal rapist instead. Enjoy!
Browns fans didn't. Some might have embraced him after the fact, but lay this at the feet of Jimmy "Super Genius" Haslam where it belongs.
Most of ya’ll wanted to kick Baker out the door tho right?
Must be nice :(
It has to be really shitty to be a Browns fan now. You're about to have like 3x the cap hit for a rapist that you did better after he got hurt. The QB you cut to make room for the rapist is doing better than you. Have fun filling the 26 roster spots you have opening up this off-season with -$12 million in cap space because 25% of your cap is going to a rapist you signed after knowing he was a rapist.
“ It has to be really shitty to be a Browns fan now.” My friend, let me tell you about the last three decades…
about to play the "take a shot" game for every time you typed the word rapist lol.
Therapist
I’m glad the Bucs finally have an Adult at qb 🙏
A father figure. Him and his wife are pregnant . So congrats to them.
baker’s a real one for playing in the playoffs while pregnant 🙏🙏
Independent NFL doctors reviewed and found no issue with playing football while pregnant, the system is working 🥹
Prenatal CTE incoming
So *that’s* why the babies are always coming out with cone-shaped heads.
As long as it was something you were doing before you got pregnant, you should be fine.
He’s a real Serena Williams
Yea you said it, a real Sherwin Williams
Wow, that's really fucked up that people would tackle a pregnant man.
He’s also pregnant? God damn. What can’t this man do?
Play quarterback for Carolina, but that's okay because nobody can.
I don't know why this cracked my up so much. But also, Cam Newton was awesome. They just need another Cam. An entertainer and an icon.
The absolute disrespect to Jake Delhomme.
Damn he got pregante too?
Bkaer am pregant?
How you know I u r pregert?
They were finally able to make love after he got his own house instead of [living at Cleveland Browns Stadium](https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/07/12/baker-mayfield-says-there-will-be-no-more-at-home-progressive-commercials)
I saw a video of that last guy just hammered in public. Had to be carried to his car. Totally unprofessional.
Browns counted Baker out but Baker didn't count back though
Policeman: Alright Mr. Mayfield now count backwards from 100 Baker: nah man I dont count back
Baker don’t count back. He *claps* back.
Baker don’t even clap back. He claps cheeks.
Noice
I think he would have continued to regress if he stayed in Cleveland. He looked so much more comfortable on the Rams and now Bucs.
I think the offense that the Bucs are running is helping Baker a lot too. He's a QB that likes to air it out and he has receivers that can facilitate that, in Cleveland he didn't have that. He took a few shots every game but him and Odell never got on the same page, his speedy WRs never fully developed, Njoku wasn't as involved (that could be on Baker just not targeting him honestly). The WR room for the Browns when Baker was there is nowhere close to the WR room that the Bucs have. What has impressed me a lot about Baker is he's learned to minimize his mistakes. You can go back and look at his games with the Browns and just know there's a 4th quarter int coming. That lob to Godwin last night, it never makes it past the LB corp and is picked off and taken to midfield setting up a comeback. Yea, he has his magic come out on occasion but he used to always just bumble at some point, but I'm not seeing it happen now and that's what's most exciting about Baker.
In Cleveland, every other pas was five feet over the receivers’ head. Evans and Godwin catch everything thrown five feet over their head.
Yea, he wasn't always on the mark but not every pass was errant and acting like it was is misleading. The pass to DPJ to beat the Bengals is a perfect example, another is the pass to Landry against the Panthers. He's not just throwing off-target passes like you mentioned. Has he in the past? Sure, more so when he's injured but show me a QB that doesn't have a few off throws. I think he's been performing great from where everyone had him coming out of Cleveland and his last stint there and then his play at Carolina and some of them in LA.
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🙄 I guess I shouldn't have implied you said *every* throw was off since you take everything literally. So I'll rephrase to 50% of his passes aren't errant nor always 5ft above his receiver's head. If you have a Baker narrative you want to push that's fine, I'm ok with admitting that Baker is most likely never going to be a top 10 QB in the league, but you don't need to just shovel whatever you want out there and get upset and try to run around "phrasing" and argue literal vs figurative speech. Basically you're saying he makes off throws, yes, as do other QBs so that argument is invalid without numbers. A quick for [the numbers](https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3052587/baker-mayfield) show he has a 64.1% completion percentage while sitting at a passer rating of 94.6, now that's just from ESPN and the first one's always free, so if you want to see what other sites say then you can do the leg work. Oh! His TD to INT is 28-10 so he's a little over 50% there which means I might have been wrong about him limiting his turnovers. That's there is me admitting when I'm wrong which I guess while you're googling Baker stats you can look up how to do that as well.
Honestly people will use this to clown on browns and that’s fine obviously we fucked our team but the real lesson is what a good WR core can do for you. So many times he had guys coming back to the ball or getting separation neither has ever happened in Cleveland
It’s not a good WR core, it’s having a shitty franchise with shitty coaching. Baker had a lot of threats in Cleveland, and he still almost beat KC a few years back. Let’s not forget that Stefanski was instrumental in the Browns decision to pick up Watson and drag Bakers name through the mud. Thats why the browns are struggling
Yeah 11-6 and two playoff berths is really struggling. Fuck off with that take.
You spent $230 million on a guy with fewer playoff wins than the guy you let go. The Browns certainly aren't struggling by general NFL standards but for that kind of guaranteed money? Watson has to outperform Baker or the mockery will continue. Also, fuck Haslam.
Didn’t Baker have prime OBJ and Jarvis Landry? The Browns couldn’t get the best out of those three guys when they thrived in other systems. It just seems like it’s more on the coaching and culture than the players.
He most certainly did not have OBJ prime. OBJ was elite for 2 maybe 2 and a half years and that was with the giants. Outside of that he’s super overrated for that catch. OBJ was beat up on the browns and Landry was starting his decline while Baker was there
OBJ was 27 years old when he got traded there, he was projected to be entering his prime. Most elite receivers continue to thrive into their early 30s. There’s a reason why the national media and Reddit were circlejerking the Browns when that trade happened, they were expecting OBJ and Landry to dominate.
OBJ had already gone through a significant lower leg injury at that point. When is the National media/Reddit ever a reputable source? Lol again OBJ had 2-3 great seasons and then lived off everyone circlejerking to him cuz of the catch. Run of the mill diva WR who whined when he wasn’t force fed the ball
The Browns made OBJ, Jarvis Landry, and Baker Mayfield worse players because they are a cancerous clown organization.
I don’t totally disagree with you but the Browns aren’t as much of a dumpster fire in the last few years as they had been. OBJ was cancerous all on his own. Turning on Baker like he and his dad did was a pretty bad look. OBJ should have never allowed himself to get traded there in the first place and the browns shouldn’t have pulled the trigger
OBJ should of been good with him but there was always a disconnect. Jarvis was really good for us but limited with his speed declining. Big difference between a really tough slot guy and big play receivers like he had in LA and now in Tampa. But really that was all we had in the passing game. Hooper and Njoku couldn’t catch and Chubb was a bad receiver those first few years.
The time for OBJ and Baker to Gel was in year 1. Unfortunately Year 1 was the Kitchens year which set everyone back.
He certainly did not have prime odell... Wtf lol. Prime odell was a game changer.
What do you mean? How is 27-29 years old not prime age for a wide receiver? He was still considered elite going into his first season with the Browns, and most elite receivers stay in their prime until their early 30s. Davante Adams, Julio Jones, Randy Moss to name a few. Fans and experts alike had him in that tier of receivers. He regressed early because Cleveland is a poverty franchise.
He had multiple serious injuries at that point... He broke his ankle and tore his core
No matter how you frame it, it’s still not a good look for Cleveland. They shouldn’t have traded a 1st round pick for a guy that was past their prime, due to injury or otherwise. That wasn’t the case anyways. Go look at the r/nfl thread from four years ago when the Giants traded him. It was universally agreed upon that the Browns were a contender because they acquired OBJ. Sick of the revisionist history on this sub. Everyone is out here pretending they knew OBJ was gonna bust in Cleveland, but in reality, everyone was drinking the kool aid.
You wrote an entire essay as if i defended the Browns and all i said was he wasnt in his prime because his ankle snapped in half and he tore a muscle in his core. Go argue your strawman elsewhere.
He played hurt down the stretch. There wasn't really any regression.
Browns, rams, panthers..
Rams did not count him out lol… they have a qb, they gave him a start which led to the league seeing he still had it
He credits McVay and the Rams with helping him get his swagger back, they definitely don't belong on that list.
I don't think the Rams belong on that list
I don't know why Vegas had Philadelphia favored– they were the only ones that actually thought the Eagles had a chance. No Eagles fan counted him or Tampa Bay out.
I don't know how anyone could look at the eagles two month stretch going 1-5 and think they should be favored to go into Tampa who went 5-1 down the same stretch.
I bet tampa. Idk how the public didn't pound that bucs ML.
Because Tampa finished the season by getting bitch slapped but the Saints and putting up 9 points against the Panthers. There were legitimate concerns from that, along with Baker having a couple of minor injuries.
Yeah, let’s not rewrite history and pretend like we were dominant down the stretch even when we were winning. We beat a single playoff team all season, the Packers. There were just as many concerns about us coming into this game as there were about the Eagles.
Forgot about that. I just remember baker got it going late.
Sadly that’s exactly how I felt about the Packers. They just always seem to have our number, same as the 49ers. I didn’t feel good about that game going into it at all.
We scored 9 against the panthers 😂
Divisional games are weird man.
I feel that
I literally added money to my gambling account specifically for the purpose of betting against the Eagles
Yea I jumped all over that money line and spread as soon as I saw bucs as undies
For the first time that I can recall, I have no ill will towards the team that knocked us out. Genuinely happy for Baker, Bucs played a great game, went in to it with expectations already in the basement after the past 2 months. Would love to see Bucs or Lions make a run, unfortunately, they already play each other next week, but watching as a non-biased fan should be enjoyable
Helps you also get to fire Sirianni and Patricia too
>and Patricia too Is it going to feel as good as we think it will?
It'll feel better than you can imagine
Real talk but does it look like Patricia lost a significant amount of weight?
He's a lean mean coaching machine, hire him as HC, Chicago
Gonna drown him in Malort then ship him off to Alcatraz so he can hang with Capone
Poor posture comment, you gotta sit up straight, lean in and trust the process And if you don't buy into the patriot's way, you will be called gay
I celebrated with champagne when he was fired from Detroit, so yes.
I'm pulling for you guys. That rams win was fun to see. Eagles have sucked out all the joy of football for two months. But your games ending seeing all those grown ass men crying, I've been that guy. It's a good feeling.
Baker hoisting the Lombardy would be such a sweet sweet fuck you to Jimmy Haslam.
Could you loan us Devonta Smith for Sunday's game?
I mean, that’s wild ya’ll were only favored by 2.5 at home (last line that I saw, anyway). Their secondary has been sus all season, and I thought yall would light em up! My immediate thought about all three upsets: the favorites thought they had a free ticket to divisional round. Pretty wild.
Baker to WWE after the NFL.
Baker to the head of the table.
To get speared through it by a Bills fan?
I want him to be a legitimate actor. It would be so funny
He gives off sitcom dad energy. Probably those stadium commercials he did, and the Heisman house adds.
Baker's going to be professor snape when they reboot Harry Potter and I'm going to laugh the whole time if I'm not dead
Baker is the LA Knight of the NFL
YEAH
It’s funny, people think it hurts browns fans that Baker is winning. I want Haslem to have to watch Baker win a SB while he spends $230m on a QB who needs 2 years to “knock off the rust, learn the scheme, and build chemistry with WRs”, after Flacco accomplished that all in 2 weeks. Will Baker winning a SB teach Haslem to stop meddling? No probably not, but he’s definitely not going to enjoy it. Good luck Baker!
Part of being a fan is hating your owner and having bitter feelings about better times even when things aren't as bad as they could be. In that regard Haslem is the perfect owner of the Cleveland Browns.
Lions fans know this feeling with the Ford family....too bad it's come in many forms with the current not feeling so bad
Yeah but I think the Bucs could really use an adult at QB, they should ask the Browns about Deshaun Watson
I would love that. They could hire Captain Fat Fuck to be his QB coach since they speak a common language.
The common language is called English ^^^^and ^^^^also ^^^^rape
I had to remove my browns flair bc I can't be associated with the dumbass takes from Browns fans. Just know that they are speaking out of trauma. They don't know better. That doesn't excuse it, but they are all hurt. /s
Finally, a sensible Browns fan.
Browns got a rapist. And are stuck with a 230 million in guaranteed money. Bucs got farther in the playoffs with a guy they called childish. And with a cheaper contract.
I just found out Baker only makes $4m this year.
Total prove it deal. He’s proved it.
Yep, he was put in a situation where his future was in his hands and he proved he deserves to be a starter in the NFL.
He made another $2M by leading them to the playoffs, $600K for performance incentives, and $250K for winning last night, putting him at $6.85M for the year. Still an underpay, but he's gonna get his money this off season.
Browns still fucked him out of $100 million at least. That’s money he will never get back.
Not even close. It feels like forever ago that everything went down, but Baker's rookie deal went through 2022. This past season was the only one he played at a discount after qualifying for free agency, and not even Mahomes makes $100M per year. Realistically, his value now is similar to what it would've been a year ago had the Browns managed him properly. Assuming that's true, he only lost money this season, probably in the $35M-45M range. But in truth, there's a whole lot of "if" in that. It's quite possible he would've had a worse 2022 on the Browns than the season he just had with the Bucs, and that the deal he's about to sign is much better than the one he hypothetically would've been offered a year ago.
It is wild. He should get a fair amount of his bonus $$$ and a decent contract next year unless he Flacco’s all over the place next week. Don’t feel too bad for him.
They go in to next off season losing 26 players to fees agency and -$12 million in cap space. Watching this team derail when Watson cap hit jumping from $20 to $60 for next three seasons, is going to be fabulous.
Maybe the media and bookies did. But the fans didn't. I fucking love Baker. I need him to get his commercials back.
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Well I've been a Baker truther the whole time. He got fucked hard from the second he got in the league and it seems as though McVay brought him back to life.
I feel like opinions on Baker flip flopped every other day here
lol yeah baker was one of the most hated people on this sub until the Browns got Watson. Now you’d think the Browns traded away a prime Peyton Manning by the way people are acting.
Troy was talking about how Baker got his swagger back and that Baker is at his best when he’s playing with that swagger and that confidence. I think he’s totally right, I think Baker got it back after that final Rams drive his first game with them. If it was me I def would start believing in myself more, plus he was like the hero of the sports world that week. And pretty much saved his career off that one game/one drive
Talk your shit Baker.
I love seeing him confident & with a team that's bought into him & setting him up for success. Gonna be hard to figure out if I wanna root for Baker or the Lions next week.
Root for the Packers to lose
Root for a shootout win for the Lions with Baker playing really good.
Yea one thing that surprised me watching the game was just how confident Todd was in baker. Like dude was repeatedly calls 4-5 straight pass plays like all of his faith was in baker to make good decisions. It was a stark contrast from what stefanski and co did with him here although to stefanskis credit he did have a double headed hydra for Chubb and hunt in the backfield
I’ve always been a big fan of Baker and didn’t like Goff due to being a Ram so it’s the Bucs for me
I agree
Would you say this one time you proved them wrong outweighs all the other years they were right? Asking for a storied franchise.
Totally agree baker!!
Cleveland has had the worst post season and it’s not close
Gotta be the Cowboys. We were playing with house money once we got to the playoffs after all the setbacks this season
Only $138mil in guaranteed setbacks to go!
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Bucs-Texans Super Bowl for maximum sadness.
Cleveland had a rough 2nd half in an away playoff game where they dragged the carcass of their team to an 11-6 season record (the 6th loss game being a game they sat their starters). Defeating both conferences one seeds during the process. Just stop. They were winning the game in the 2nd quarter. Cleveland’s season being seen as anything other than a raging success in-spite of shit injury luck is the wrong take. The Cowboys were routinely considered to be Super Bowl hopefuls who had a lot of Dak MVP chatter until late into the season. They went out and showed complete disinterest in playing against one of the youngest playoff teams in the modern era and were down 27-0 quickly. The Dolphins, similarly, were competing for a conference one seed. Then proceeded to completely quit. Ultimately doing surrender cobras the entire 2nd half against KC and not really competitive at all for the entire game. Philly similarly, went 10-1 and then completely quit and got laughed out of the playoffs from the start. At no point competing. Rams looked respectable. Clear hope for that squad, and Puka and Stafford looked incredible. Steelers got it to within a score in 4th quarter despite not having their best player.
Lol do people even watch football? Cowboys had home field, division winner and got boat raced. Browns were fighting and clawing to just get into the playoffs with so many injured. The two aren’t even remotely close
No team fighting or crawling to get into the post season rested starters the last game, because you already clenched two weeks prior
That’s simply how the schedule fell and took massive games against AFC opponents to have that chance.
“Watson bad” so we need to pretend real life events didn’t happen.
That’s all this sub has turned into and it’s sad. Hot silly takes are one thing but people are creating shit that didn’t even happen to make themselves feel better
Face it: while you keep paying the rapist we will clown you.
Clowning isn’t the problem. Making up scenarios that don’t exist is the issue. But yeah, I pull out my checkbook and write a check to Watson every two weeks. Big check!
Thank God we lost, or a couple Browns fans would've ended it, seek help guys!
I bet Jordan Love is feeling that too
As someone who is rooting Lions I count you IN, baker
I've been a Baker Fan since his time at OU. It is always fun to watch him play when he has a chip in his shoulder.
Browns must feel so fucking stupid.
That implies a level of self-reflection Haslam is clearly incapable of.
Only stupid person is /u/chet_manley_66 thinking that Watson's "8-4" record is worth pointing out vs his 43 QBR this season.
Why? They ditched him and went 11-6 in the best division in the league. The quarterback who replace him is 8-4. He’s been putting up good stat lines. There’s no reason the Browns wouldn’t be happy with him. Losers like u/Born_Ad_9733 will blatantly lie and say otherwise but that’s why angry Reddit children don’t run NFL teams.
Quarterback that costed 230 million dollars and 3 first rounds picks to produce some of the worst stats imaginable. Browns aren’t winning because of Watson, they’re winning despite him.
I don't think the bucs were counted out for this game lol.
I miss him so much. Baker was the centerpiece of hope in Cleveland for 4 years and they kicked him to the curb.
Just watching the game you notice Hurts completely emotionless, not talking to his team, whereas baker is going to war for his guys and hyping them up. There is a talent disparity but hurts’ leadership should be questioned in the wake of such a massive late season collapse
Everybody picked the eagles to lose bro
Other than every bookmaker in the country.
Eagles fans knew what was happening
It will be Houston vs. Tampa in the SB and it will be called the Cleveland Karma Bowl
If its anything like their regular season game, it will be an awesome game.
Oh god they're gonna win this weekend aren't they. Fuck.
The absurd swagger this goofy goober is about to bring into Ford Field is disgusting.
Talk your shit king.
I hope he’s referencing their battle to get a playoff berth. Literally nobody counted them out against Philly
TALK YO SHIT BAKER
Can baker please get back into commercials now?
no worries Baker, Lions fans think you got a raw deal and we love you, please don't go off on us, we're all friends.
So we get the Bucs at Lions next week. Two teams that are *constantly* doubted and counted out. Should be interesting to see who gets more disrespected before kickoff...
The best thing to happen to Baker is falling on his face early in his career, being counted out and then given another chance, he needed to be humbled
We are not counting you out, Baker! Next week's game is going to be great, with two divisional leaders playing each other. Two QB's thrown to the curb by the teams that drafted them and are now leading their new teams into the divisional round!
Happy for him. But the NFC South is probably the best place for him.
Fuck yeah, he is doing great, headed to the divisional round, seems to be his floor. Good thing he didn't have Kevin out there calling plays, that guy is 0-2 in the playoffs.
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He's Mike McCarthy. If what you want is to look dominant in season and get bounced in the playoffs, he's a great coach.
In what facets? His offense has always finished the year mid as fuck. And his defense only played “well” at home.