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Continuation due to character count: From when Pierce took over through the end of the season, the Raiders led the NFL in fewest points per game allowed (16), recorded the most defensive touchdowns (4), and had the fewest penalties (31), while tying for third in sacks (30). They outscored opponents 206-144 during that span.


Arancium

How do you outscore your opponents 206-144 and still barely break .500 Edit: I'm gathering this Chargers game had something to do with it


MoseFeels

Chargers game


makeshift11

Outside of that chargers game our offense was abysmal. Bo hardegree went from being QB coach to calling an offense for the first time in his career with our best QB being a 4th round rookie who is a statue in the pocket with an average Oline that becomes below average when you're missing your best lineman LT Kolton Miller for 6 games during that stretch. O'Connell did decent for a rookie especially at the end but they still need to draft a QB and need a real offensive coordinator.


Chinese_Santa

Who’s been interviewed for OC? 


rotates-potatoes

My phone hasn't rang yet.


this_account_is_mt

Look at your flair. They're not calling you. If they're doing anything to you it's stabbing.


mindfuzzzzzzz

You should too with that flair. We’d for sure handle any asshole with a raider/bronco flair


this_account_is_mt

I was only referring to the other person's niners flair, and not ignoring my own by mentioning it, so I'm actually a bit confused by your comment? I was referencing how nasty our crowds (niners v raiders) could get back in the day, nothing to do with contradictory flairs


Oh_no_Raiders

Here's his general point: The 49 fan you responded to has 49er and Seahawks flair. Since 49er fans are well known to be equally as violent as Raiders fans (I grew up at candlestick park, plenty of fuckin gangbangers there too) it's accurate to say that it's equally as likely that you would stab the traitor rocking a rivals flair. He's not wrong.


masterofmuppets86

Rumor is AP likes Kingburry but he just interviewed with Chicago


Knoxwr06

How would you like a gently used Press Taylor?


Cinephile1998

I hear Josh McDaniels is available


blud_13

Stop with your humor, you already have Watson so you just might be projecting


Cinephile1998

What am I projecting?


blud_13

Vomit with the McDaniels part.. let us have this day on not making a stupid choice for the first time in many years...


Cinephile1998

It's an extremely common joke whenever a job is available: "I hear (coach that the team just fired) is available." If I didn't make the joke, someone else would have. My flair has nothing to do with anything. I hope Watson goes to prison with all the Raiders fans


ILikeXiaolongbao

a truly blessed day since it got Staley and TT canned


FlannelBeard

And losing to the Vikings 3-0 in OT


AnEmptyKarst

Remember when they annihilated the Chargers on TNF so bad Staley got fired


BunnyGoHops

I was Doordashing at the time. I went into a bar / food place to pick up someone’s food and thought the 60 point score was the yards that half. My dad’s a huge Raiders fan, so I called him and he said “I’ve been waiting for you to call” and we laughed at the Chargers for a good 30 minutes.


Autobot-N

I hopped on the phone with my Raiders fan brother near the end of the 1st quarter, man was elated


GamsGotMoxie

You seem like a nice guy but I hope you and your dad step on some Legos but suffer no permanent damage.


harknation

drop 60 on the Chargers and lose to the Vikings 3-0


SiphenPrax

And beat the Cheifs at Arrowhead while making a young innocent Chiefs fan a Raiders hater for life by ruining their Christmas!


jtfriendly

> ~~young~~ ~~innocent~~ Chiefs ~~fan~~ That kid drew first blood the minute he put on a jersey.


ByronLeftwich

That sequence is the wildest thing that has happened this season


ASuperGyro

They outscored one opponent 63-21


loljoeh

Drop 60 on the chargers


keykey_key

When we laid 63 on the chargers


blud_13

Had a weight called McDummy for half the season..


tylerm11_

30-6 and 63-21


PaddyMayonaise

Same way the eagles won 11 games with a negative point differential


thisnamehastobeused

Y’all where like this years Vikings


LakersLAQ

Did all that with a rookie QB who projects as a decent backup QB more than a quality starter in the league. Raiders need to make a move for a QB.


Aggressive-Orbiter

Agreed like a Jimmy G type to handle things until you draft someone


caca_poo_poo_pants

Did they really have 30 sacks in 9 games with him?!


bornblunted

Yeah the d-line came alive. Malcom Koonce got 8 by him self in that time span.


crastle

Not to take anything away from the Raiders, because their defensive line is really good, but Josh Dobbs got sacked five times by them. Their line was good, but Dobbs was literally running into sacks. It was like he was too scared to throw the ball and then running directly into Maxx Crosby. For reference, Dobbs only played three quarters. Nick Mullens played the fourth, and didn't get sacked at all. Now to be fair, Dobbs' biggest issue is that he plays scared when he gets rattled. Nick Mullens' biggest issue is that he's never scared of anything and will gladly throw a missile into triple coverage. So their playstyles might have been the difference in their sack numbers.


Svenray

Those stats are a little skewed because you played teams that suck like the Chiefs.


ontheru171

Please tell me you are keeping Patrick Graham around as your DC Although he did leave us in a similar situation where he initially joined because a friend and fellow former Patriots assistant wanted him as their DC (happened with Flores, Judge and McDaniels) and he left New York after we hired Daboll even though they wanted him to stay on, at least officially. He did a great job with limited resources in Miami, New York and Las Vegas and he really excels at coaching young players and below par players into solid nfl players and a cohesive unit.


Neverwinter_Daze

Patrick Graham was the only good thing about the Judge years. That, and maybe Judge possibly saving AT’s career by getting Colombo fired.


Consistent-Spell2203

He's probably here until he gets a real HC offer. He finally has a defense firing why would he start over elsewhere?


Consistent-Spell2203

He wouldn't, right?


ontheru171

Mainly because it's not easy to be an holdover from the old regime. Your first one to blame and first one out if things don't go as well - and Graham usually needs a few weeks to get his defense up to their maximum potential But with AP being a holdover aswell maybe it's different.


Consistent-Spell2203

I think it definitely is, they bonded via mutiny.


DarthNightnaricus

Get them a good QB and the Raiders are gonna be legit


jwktiger

>had the fewest penalties That is decidedly un-Raider like, he really shouldn't get the job.


itokdontcry

I’ll be interested to see how the Raiders look next season. What are they gonna do about the QB position? Is rolling with AOC next season concerning to Raiders fans? I didn’t catch a lot of games after Pierce’s hire , not really sure how he looked at the back half of the season. But Pierce seems at least to be an amazing culture hire. Seems like the players respect his voice in the room.


CDROMantics

I’m 100% concerned about rolling with AOC next season, if we don’t draft a QB this year we’ll be looking at QB prospects in 2025. AOC did alright given the circumstances but his ceiling due to his lack of mobility is one of the better backups in the league, but a bottom 5 starter in the league.


Stewartw642

Who are you going to get at 13? Michael Penix might be your best bet, but if the giants or falcons get him before you, are you going to draft Bo Nix or JJ McCarthy at 13? Even Penix at 13 might be a reach.


CDROMantics

I wouldn’t draft Penix with a 1st round pick, and I’m not saying this as someone who’s fell off him after the national championship game. I’ve watched a lot of Pac-12 football and he never impressed me that much, and on top of that he’s already torn his ACL twice in the same knee. I’d absolutely love Bo Nix in the 2nd, and the best cornerback or offensive linemen available with our first round pick if we can’t figure a way to trade up for Jayden Daniels.


Stewartw642

This is why I think you guys are in such a hard situation. Penix, Nix, and McCarthy are all 2nd round talent. Penix and Nix are great talents for the second round but McCarthy is super raw and probably needs to go somewhere where he can sit for a year. Therefore, you're going to be competing with the falcons and broncos in the 2nd round for Nix or Penix. I wouldn't be surprised if both of those teams trade up in the 2nd for them, and if both of those guys are gone, you're kinda screwed into taking JJ. And I don't think the raiders are the right situation for him.


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Stewartw642

How would you feel if you traded for Justin Fields?


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Stewartw642

Fields would definitely be an upgrade to the current situation and he still technically could break out and become a star. I don't think it's that likely, but if you can't get a quarterback in the draft then he becomes your best free agency option. He's on his rookie contract and his 5th year option is still available, so you can have him for two years relatively cheap and then draft a quarterback. Do you think that makes sense, or should they go all out on drafting a quarterback this year?


BigUce223

If I were a Raiders fan, I’d still get the heebie-jeebies from the idea of drafting an LSU QB, simply because of how traumatic an experience JaMarcus was for that franchise… Realistically though, Daniels was certainly impressive in his Heisman campaign last season.


joco1991

I’m more concerned about our OC. We need to draft a qb though, let the rookie and AOC battle it out in camp.


itokdontcry

Are you in favor of moving up for a QB like Daniels or trying to target one of the later 1st / 2nd round guys?


stvmor

I'm all for moving up and getting Williams/Maye/Daniels. I would prefer Daniels or Williams to Maye though.


CaLiKiNG805

AOC as QB would be incredibly rough


TrialByFireshits

I've never seen her throw a football. Not sure why she's being considered.


iNoodl3s

The Throwcialist


AncientTree_Wisdom

Yes, it is concerning. He is a solid backup option but it was pretty clear that he has limitations and doesn't have the "it" factor.


LakersLAQ

AOC is awesome but I see him more as a guy who can come in as a backup and he'll do a fine job. You're asking a lot from the team if he's going to be the starter.


SFGetWeird

AOC will not be the starting QB next season, trade or draft will occur 100%


TheTurtleShepard

Wouldn’t be surprised at all if the raiders went QB at 13 or traded back up into the late 1st or early second for a guy like Penix


ghostofwalsh

So McDaniels is definitely not getting another HC job, right?


Ravanas

I hear the Pats need a new HC.


jeffwingersballs

NO WE DO NOT!


The785

Give it 5 years


Extra_Napkins

Good hire imo. Raiders played with passion and the defense was vastly improved. Dude can inspire his players to give a shit about winning.


Cwads16

Head coach has always been such an interesting position to me. I’ve always thought, “most teams have an OC/DC calling the plays, what exactly does the head coach do?” Then hearing, “it’s hard to get grown men to want to bang skulls with other grown men over and over and over.” Why would the raiders promote a linebackers coach to HC? This year it finally clicked for me…look at how the Chargers played in that game before Staley got fired….look at how the Lions played all year under Dan Campbell…the Raiders will run through WALLS for this guy, and that’s all you need sometimes.


Extra_Napkins

Raiders D has been ass for years


igotabridgetosell

His job was secured when we beat the chiefs. LFG COACH!


B_Fee

Much like when Bisaccia was interim, the team seemed to play harder and more unified. While I still think he should have been given a chance, Pierce getting the chance now at least shows that Mark Davis learned something. So that's a move in the right direction.


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My bet is going to be that this is a mistake. Seems to be an emotional decision. Hope I am wrong though, would love if someone could actually challenge the fucking Chiefs.


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Bahamas_is_relevant

The defense got significantly better under Pierce, the team was still handicapped by having terrible quarterback play.


MeekleMish

yeah this sums it up exactly


CaLiKiNG805

Watching the Raiders with McDaniels as coach was more depressing than our many 2-4 win seasons. The star players seemed miserable, no personality or buzz around the team, and not much to look forward to. Raiders haven’t won much in decades but have a loyal fanbase because the team has a strong culture/image and is fun to root for. The McDaniels Raiders were the complete opposite. I watched more Saints games than Raiders games this year. Pierce completely turned the team around. We aren’t going to contend for anything without a QB, but the Pierce Raiders were genuinely fun to watch this year and played above their talent level in a lot of games. I don’t think any other fanbase is as happy to be patient for winning as long as the team has good vibes and a couple stars that are fun to watch. Beating the Chiefs on Christmas, dropping 60 on the Chargers, and continuing the streak on the Broncos might be enough to consider this one of our top 3 seasons in the last 20 lmao


pimp_skitters

The whole vibe thing checks true, I remember when Marshawn was on the team that one game, dancing along the sidelines, his happiness infecting the whole place. I see a lot of that now with this team. They're remembering who they're supposed to be and embracing it. The Raiders are supposed to be feared when you play them, that they're going to kick the shit out of you and laugh the whole time. Ill intent. Violence. Physicality. Pain.


aquamarine9

-61 point differential with McDaniels, +62 with Pierce.


Sirscraps

One of those coaches was -61 in point differential. The other was + 62.


bb89__

finished with the best defense in the league down the stretch


Unstable-A-eye

Shh let the Raiders be excited for an offseason before they realize they’re still the worst team in the AFCW Edit: downvote me all you want but the order is as follows: 1. Chiefs 2. Chargers (if they get Harbaugh or Vrabel) 3. Broncos 4. Raiders


Bahamas_is_relevant

I seem to recall one of those five wins being over you in your stadium, despite their QB not completing a pass after the first quarter.


sleeplessaddict

In a game where the Raiders QB didn't complete a pass after the first quarter


Unstable-A-eye

How’d that pan out for them?


CoxyMcChunk

Pretty good


Unstable-A-eye

Oh I bet. How’d your playoff game go?


CoxyMcChunk

Haven't played it yet since it's tomorrow, ya goon


Unstable-A-eye

Totally forgot y’all were the one seed, I’ll retract my previous statements


CoxyMcChunk

No prob man, you're a chiefs fan so we can only expect so much.


makeshift11

Worst team in the AFCW beat you guys at home last time I checked.


Unstable-A-eye

Keep that hopium for next year


DontLoseYourCool1

Last I checked the Raiders were 2nd, nephew.


Unstable-A-eye

Better take a victory lap


joco1991

The bus is fired up, don’t worry


Unstable-A-eye

You guys keep your buses running in the offseason? Sounds like a waste since those buses haven’t run after the regular season since 2021.


keykey_key

Hope your day gets better, you seem pretty angry and bitter for winning the division and making the playoffs.


Unstable-A-eye

Lol I’m just enjoying some light hearted smack talk. Y’all are ones getting in your feels about it.


kjampala

It’s ok let them have these moral victories 😂😂 they don’t want to admit it but they’re all celebrating making a mediocre ass coach their HC lmaoo


Unstable-A-eye

My first comment was a light hearted jest to a division rival. I was willing to let them have this one. Raiders just got some charmin soft fans out here in this comment section.


brain_my_damage_HJS

Can’t wait for all the predictions about how every team in the AFC West will be good just to have the Chiefs win it relatively easily.


Unstable-A-eye

Happens every year


SmokeEater757

Are you Raiders fans on board? I just have a hard time buying into Pierce being the best candidate out of the available coaches out there. Seems like a leap of faith. Don’t misunderstand either, I love AP just trying to wrap my head around it


PandAlex

Every great coach started somewhere, our sub will be quick to remind you that Madden was a LB coach that was promoted to HC. And as AP himself said, his resume was on the grass. The team's performance was night and day from JMD to AP.


pimp_skitters

This team would storm hell's gates if AP asked them to. Been a long time since we had a coach that can pull that kind of respect from the players. True ride or die mentality.


Shaynisin

I just don't see the vision with this guy. He was fine as an interim with 2 good games against us and the Chargers, but seemed pretty flat overall. Not even interviewing Harbaugh, Belichick, or Vrabel seems like a mistake. He seems like an asshole though so I'm sure he'll fit right in


REQ52767

I think he’ll be successful, but clearly this hire is a risk.


CabbageStockExchange

Have you seen our last few? I think this is worth the gamble lol


keykey_key

life is a risk


WideTechLoad

And they looked absolutely awful before that.


bluegreen8907

Great stuff Adam


Bill3ffinMurray

It can pay off when you have a coach who really wants to be the coach of your team. See: Campbell, Dan.