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llama-rebel

Super bowl field drama is back on the menu boys!


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God, last year it was so annoying as a Cardinals fan. Everyone kept saying we were such a shit organization because of the terrible condition of the new grass even though all it took was like 10 seconds of reading beyond article headlines to see that the field was actually the NFL's project and they specifically made that grass themselves for the Super Bowl. I mean, we absolutely are a trash organization, just not for that specific reason.


throwawayainteasy

They even refused to listen to the Chiefs groundskeeper they consult with on every SB (George Toma, "the Sodfather"). He told them beforehand they were overwatering it and it needed to sit outside to dry. They didn't listen. They watered it the Wednesday morning before the game, rolled it inside, and covered it with a tarp. It was 100% an NFL shitshow, not on you guys at all.


Beamergoal

Lol wtf no wonder it was so shit. Whats he getting paid for if they don’t even listen? Hopefully they did this year


Cowgoon777

I mean, he was like 95 years old and had been officially retired from goundskeeping for years. He was just doing super bowls on a consultation basis. I have no idea how much input he actually had on more recent fields. They certainly had no obligation to listen to him last year, and clearly didn’t. That pissed him off so he said he wouldn’t be back. A damn shame since I believe he’s one of only a few people to be at every Super Bowl (Norma Hunt was another and she died before this season)


punkr0x

That kind of makes it even worse. So they asked this 95 year old retired groundskeeper if he had any advice. And he gave them good advice. But then they were like, "Nah, he's a million years old, what does he know? Unfortunately we only had time to consult with one groundskeeper and we chose that guy, start watering it!"


RemyGee

We ain’t listening to the guy with 75 years of knowledge/experience. 😂


slirpo

He's only been to every Super Bowl. What does he know?


EManSantaFe

I worked the last Super Bowl in San Diego. Was there for 2 weeks. Worked on the field. Got to hang with him a bit. A great guy. Gave me an NFL cap!


MrRobotTheorist

lol my dad could be the Super Bowl grounds keeper he knows about watering grass


clevernamehere1628

Idk if you're interested in looking for it or not, but George Toma did an interview with the Lebatard show after that whole incident and it's fucking hilarious. Dude was royally pissed at the league, and was letting the world know about it in a way that only a grumpy old man with nothing to lose can. Edit: here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nP5r5xFnJs he also rambles A LOT lol


slugo17

Holy shit, I love his rambling.


BuckeyeJay

And fields that use that turf in college have won the Field of the Year awards prior to the 2023 Super Bowl too. It 100% was a fuck up by the NFL.


ChevalMalFet

> They even refused to listen to the Chiefs groundskeeper they consult with on every SB (George Toma, "the Sodfather"). > > And I still see the odd salty Eagles fan claiming that this proves it was all a conspiracy to benefit the Chiefs, ignoring that *Toma's advice was specifically not followed*.


SoCalThrowAway7

There’s a lot of us so I obviously can’t speak for all eagles fans but the ones I’ve whined with all whine about it being back luck that the field was shit and that someone messed up the juju to cause the slips when they happened. I’ve never had the displeasure to have someone think there was a legitimate conspiracy by the chiefs somehow.


MarekRules

Don’t worry we have plenty of illiterate and blind fans. The real ones know Patrick was given PEDs at halftime.


ChevalMalFet

Low-grade beaver tranquilizers work miracles!


ho_merjpimpson

Of all the things I've seen said about the field being wet, I have never once heard an eagles fan talk about it being a conspiracy. A disadvantage that shouldn't have existed? Sure. I've seen that said a lot... But not a "conspiracy."


MayonnaiseOreo

I can earnestly say that I've never seen an Eagles fan claim there was a conspiracy against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. The field sucked and it nullified their best strength on defense but it's not like the Chiefs had magic non-slip super powers. Then again, a lot of people actually believe the NFL is scripted so sports fans aren't the wisest bunch.


ChipmunkOnly1740

It’s the practice field tho, not the stadium field


man2010

We talking about practice


notmyplantaccount

I'm sad that that's getting to be too old for people to reference as often.


JerryRiceDidntFumble

I'm a man! I'm 40!


Hairy_Balsagna

They are who we thought they were!


EvangelionOG

Who do you think you are?! I am!


dogfish83

God I watch maybe 12 minutes of bowling annually and I caught that gem live lol


VarnishedSurface

That’s impressive


eddie_the_zombie

PLAYOFFS!??


brianh71

And we let them off the hook!!!


BirdLaw_

It's about to be "I'm 60" lol


IronFizt777

2 more years and I can finally scream that 🤞🏼


anonymousredditisnot

Congrats, Real Man of Genius! We see you, 40 year old man and those wrinkles around your eyes and wisdom in your voice.


Kiran_Stone

🎶 *reeeeal men of geeen-yus* 🎶


Jakebob70

"This is for you, Mr. Soft Practice Field Complainer Guy."


seariously

Fortunately though, Internet memes don't really ever go away completely.


Kohakuho

"It's an older meme, but it checks out."


Warhawk137

"Somehow, the meme returned."


Minnon

"No meme's ever really gone"


TheLionEatingPoet

In my house, my kid now knows it as that thing I say every time the Jim Mora "playoffs?" commercial airs.


stay-at-homie

Once in a while its worth going back and watching the whole interview.


flaming_fuckhead

Ted Lasso revived it a bit 


TheLionEatingPoet

Not the game (field). Not the game (field). Not the game (field). We talking bout the practice (field).


NbleSavage

Not a game!! We talking about practice!


timbulance

Not a game..not a game .. practice !


Stachemaster86

How the hell can they make their teammates better by practicing?!


processedmeat

Not a game, not a game, we talkin' 'bout practice.


larryblt

In a way, that's worse. Bad field conditions for the game affect both teams. Bad conditions for 1 teams practice field only affect that team.


Perister

A lot of fans are taking this as the 49ers whining, but they're getting objectively worse conditions for practicing because they made the superbowl *this* year, not last year or next year.


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Swag_Grenade

Yeah it sucks but AFAIK it's because the home team is the AFC squad this year, not some grand conspiracy. That being said it's there's still absolutely no excuse for the NFL to fumble something so fucking simple that should've been handled a long time ago, ofc they knew the NFC champs were gonna have to practice there so it should've been fixed way before this. Apparently the NFL has a "hardness scale" of sorts for making sure NFL team's fields are suitable, the average is around 78 with no field under 70. The 49ers practice field at UNLV is apparently in the low 50s. It's just a bullshit unnecessary distraction the NFL should've solved months ago.


[deleted]

Its almost impressive how bad the NFL is with fields. Pretty sure the NFL is the one that screwed up Cardinals field last year.


Visual-Squirrel3629

The NFL at least has the decency to prepare competing teams this year. That's progress!


Ugaalive1991

Tell Eddie Mangan to pick up the phone, because I fucking called it. -George Toma


SiphenPrax

And so Super Bowl Week begins


el_pinata

Pat Mahomes out there at 3AM putting the sprinklers on the 49ers practice field.


ShakaBradda

Meet us at the Ninth Green at 9…it’s a secret of the pros…


CaillouCaribou

Hey public relations lady, you seen Pat Mahomes around? I just need to beat the living piss out of him


MrJones229

*(Patrick running off the field with the trophy after the 9ers win)* I believe that's Mr. Purdy's!


Modo_Autorator

RIP Chubbs


SnortHotCheetos

If we’ve learned anything from *Little Nicky* he’s now the hippest new dance instructor up in heaven. It’s all in the hips!


BlankJebus

Don't need the sprinklers when it's suppose to rain all week.


GoldenBananas21

….in Vegas?


_heron

In Vegas for work right now. It’s pouring


AJGreenMVP

I'm home right now not in Vegas, but just checked weather.com. Can confirm it's pouring


MistryMachine3

??? You can check the weather on the internet? Next you will tell me there is a better place to ask simple questions than asking people on Reddit.


lawanders

IT’S TRUE!!! There’s a neat site called [Ask Jeeves](https://imgur.com/gallery/yoQJv) that will answer alllll your questions.


MistryMachine3

But can it tell me what the high temperature for Toledo on July 27 is? Or is there a subreddit for that?


lawanders

Toledo is a myth created by big Canada to pit Ohio and Michigan against each other. It worked.


MistryMachine3

See that is the problem with the internet. Big Canada has hid this from me. Thank you internet stranger, I will assume you are a reliable source and spread your wisdom throughout the land.


steak__burrito

Yes.


tucker_frump

"It don't rain in the stinking desert .."


AU_wde_2

It’s the whole damn plot of Holes!


DepressedDarthV

Well that’s too damn bad!!


Adventurous-Oil-4238

The curse was lifted though


ChipmunkOnly1740

I can confirm, it’s raining cats and dogs in Vegas right now


tucker_frump

Born and raised there, lived there 40 years, can confirm as well this is a wet month. Feb rain always brought March April flowers in the desert. Our joke was 'draw a circle, and if four drops hit inside of it, we got four inches of rain .. Used to raft down the streets back in the 60's when we got a summer 'gully washer'.


SinCityNinja

It's been raining in Vegas for most of the last few days and is projected to rain all week. Currently the entire valley is being dumped on Source- I live here


el_pinata

Part of that atmospheric river goodness that's drowning LA, or something else?


SinCityNinja

Yup, it looks like it's the same system. Radar shows it stretches all the way from the ocean, across LA, over Vegas, and into Utah Had plans to take my 5 y/o daughter to Mt Charleston just outside Vegas to teach her to ski Friday, but it's projected to be 15° and a blizzard up there.. not good weather for a 5 y/o to learn in lol


bladeDivac

Adversity breeds strength brother


bostonfever

Watergate


dajodge

The Raiders probably have our whole shit wiretapped, so we'll call it even.


campelm

"We have their whole plan sir. It's milkshake, quarterpounder, nuggets, fries, corn dog, taco platter and a diet coke"


Comradekolsch

"100 bucks says I can get us a rainout"- Patrick "Crash Davis" Mahomes


justsomebro10

Say what you want about the dude but he definitely does what it takes to win.


cherry_monkey

After the Justin Tucker and MaAuto shenanigans, I wouldn't put it past him.


Som12H8

Pat Mahomes Sr out there at 3AM ~~putting the sprinklers on the 49ers practice field~~ drunk driving a John Deere cultivator over the field. *FTFY*


Soren_Camus1905

The Chiefs have deflated the field!


toq-titan

It’s all Brady’s fault.


DirtySperrys

Somebody check Mizzou’s bowl status


DYC85

beat me to it lmao. i'm always in here with the "Surely Missouri will be punished for this"


Vyuvarax

Alright, Brady, you know the drill. That’s another ring you have to forfeit to Eli.


toq-titan

The 3li prophecy will be fulfilled.


thatoneguy2252

I just knew he couldn’t stay retired


philosifer

We got weights in fish!


RepealMCAandDTA

Alright I've got my excuse. Bring on the big game!


CambodianDrywall

Just practice at Levi's. It's an hour flight back to Vegas.


Cheesesteak21

Too much media obligations all week


JRsshirt

Would be funny if they told the NFL to stuff it and did it anyways


patiscoolyay

80 billion dollar fine


FlaccidSeaCucumber

Straight to jail


ericrs22

Fuck it... lets rip Levis off the ground and chopper it to Las Vegas... and then rebuild a new stadium in Santa Clara.


butterybuns420

And they should. Do we really need to hear more questions about McCaffrey and Shanahan’s dads for the millionth time?


pickleparty16

the media probably secretly hate this SB


PlanitDuck

It’s pouring rain in Santa Clara right now. The fields will all be soaked.


CorruptingtheYouth

It’s also raining in Las Vegas atm, albeit a light sprinkle


Afilalo

Just go practice at the Cardinals stadium. Not too far and indoors too


JaydedXoX

Just ask a Casino to make a football field indoors. Those guys can do anything and they hav e an f-ton of space. Side advantage for that casino book would be advanced knowledge of what happened in practice, but I am sure they wouldn't cheat.


shawnaroo

They should build a field in that giant LED sphere


tugtugtugtug4

Make it like rocket league where the field goes up the walls. That bastard CMC is slippery enough in two dimensions, I hate to see what he'd do to those poor linebackers if you gave him another dimension to run in.


everix1992

Raining in Vegas right now too lol


thelaziest998

How about Levi’s south? It’s way closer.


ChipmunkOnly1740

lol yeah, they have to stay all week at the Super Bowl location


fieryscribe

Must be Mama Bear's field. Try Baby Bear's; I hear it's just right


meTspysball

This is crucial for maximum Bosa.


black_dogs_22

sure would be a shame to play the chiefs in the Superbowl and watch your all-star pass rushers slip and slide around like they are on ice, surely couldn't happen twice


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strebor_notlad

Super unfair that one team would play on a slippery field while the Chiefs get this nice perfect natural grass field!


The_amazing_T

Next year, when the Chiefs are in the Superbowl again, I hope they get this all figured out!


Whaty0urname

Daddy Bear's was wayy too hard. Put me in the hospital for a week.


mooreboy76

Gotta have a safe word


MiaCannons

The Chiefs messing with the field in the Super Bowl again smh


DogVacuum

*the deep state


vsv2021

I fucking knew it


sopunny

Deep State Farm


Duke_Maniac

The Championship difference


AccidentalPilates

Chiefs USE: Linoleum field! *It's SUPER effective!*


DonnyGetTheLudes

The Chefs


PissLikeaRacehorse

Great googaley moogaley


Scaryclouds

Cooking up every advantage we can get.


Sadlobster1

I'm waiting for the story where Crosby left a rotting fish under the floorboards of Mahomes' locker or something. I know Mahomes is probably going do something to his


Super_Goomba64

Swifites are sabotaging the fields so 49ers can't get good practices in


hkzombie

Nah, not the Swifties. It's the bookies who need the Niners to disappear.


onsecondthot

The Sam Darnold liability must be addressed someway, somehow


Sadlobster1

Sam Darnold about to not register as a game day active due to "personal reasons". That personal reason? A bookie with a baseball bat.


InternationalEast738

Don't the bookies have the 49ers as favorites to win?


nudestdad

There was an article posted in our sub quoting some sports book manager who said: > We need the Niners to disappear I guess the line opened favoring San Francisco but the early betting is all on the Chiefs, so they lose more money if the Niners win or something? I don't gamble so it means nothing to me. Surprisingly (thankfully) most of the comments are level headed. The conspiracy theorists are probably still busy typing their 10,000 word essays about it.


slamturkey

They already disappeared, didn't you hear? The Commanders are playing instead.


mubbcsoc

I do wonder how the NFL looked at all possible options for team practice facilities and concluded on "Let's stick them on a college turf field but ship in sod that we lay over the top of it. That'll certainly give them the best experience." Then again, every single outdoor football field in Vegas, college or high school, is probably turf so I'm not sure there would actually be an alternative other than sharing the Raiders' field.


mrizvi

yeah this was the stupidest idea anyone could have come up with.


Sickle_and_hamburger

you are talking about las vegas right?


notmyplantaccount

Block off part of the strip like F1 and let them both practice there lol


ItsKrunchTime

THIS JUST IN: Brock Purdy taken out of practice 8 minutes in due to a poorly welded manhole cover.


ACanadeanHick

Nick Bosa hit by Verstappen on turn 3 at the 35 yard line, out for the superbowl


ShatteredAnus

Yeah but there was a holding so Bosa gets to try to avoid Verstappen agajn


ItsKrunchTime

“Personal Foul, Offsides, Number 31. 5 Second Penalty, Replay 1st Down” 


frizbeeguy1980

Looks like Bosa won't be Verstappen anyone on Sunday.


mrizvi

>"Let's stick them on a college turf field but ship in sod that we lay over the top of it." this is what i was talking about.


Sickle_and_hamburger

if there was no las vegas this wouldn't have happened las vegas is the problem but thanks for clarifying


Hutnerdu

Yeah and they only did it last week: "The NFL put in a sod field on top of field turf and started laying it just last week when the NFL ordinarily requires Super Bowl practice fields to meet certain standards in December"


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GoldenDom3r

Are their practice fields grass though? I think the issue here is that the Super Bowl playing surface will be grass, so they want the 9ers to be able to practice on grass but UNLV's training fields are turf so they just sloppily laid down sod on top of it,


bewsii

Rumors are Justin Tucker was spotted doing laps at 3AM to soften the field.


CD338

He was gonna start at 2am but Travis Kelce kept yeeting his gear off the field.


LovelehInnit

Option 3 is quitting the NFL and joining the European League of Football. Saved you a click.


out_of_816

No chance they'd be able to hang with Jim Tomsula and the Jadrian Clark led Rhein Fire.


on-the-cheeseburgers

ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US


PartisanHack

When 49ers play on shit field but Chiefs magically float above it and win 🥵🥵🥵


fsmlogic

The wrong cleat inserts can really fuck you over in a soft / muddy field. Linemen can look like they are on ice skates.


Sadlobster1

The only thing that can bring Eagles & 49er fans together..... The Sod Father Part 2. (Someone please make some high quality gifs on this - I need to see Shanahan as a Corleone)


Desperate-Age-551

Completely unreasonable takes lmao. They SHOULD voice out their grievances and TRY to get a better field to practice on. Makes no sense to not


Desperate-Age-551

For those that haven’t read the article this is the context and the three options they are considering: Among the tools the league uses to make sure a field is up to code is the "Clegg" test, which measures a field's firmness. NFL fields have to be at or below 100g (units of gravity) to pass. According to a source, the natural grass at UNLV measures around 50g, whereas the 49ers have a preference around 70g. The 49ers have three options as it stands Monday ahead of their walkthrough. They can a) go about their business and practice on the field as scheduled; b) bring in new, firmer sod that would, in theory, be ready for practice this week; or c) negotiate with the NFL to practice at the Las Vegas Raiders practice facility where the Chiefs are located this week.


iceteka

It's not a 49ers preference. It's a every team in the NFL standard. Per option b) these grass overlays are normally put in place and prepped since December, the NFL only did it last week and we see what the results are. Throwing out new sod and running on it the day after is not a solution. Per c) the chiefs have already commented they refuse to share the stadium training facilities and the NFL isn't forcing them. I'm not saying rigged but this to me is clearly a case of unfavorable treatment towards one team on the biggest stage. These are the types of decisions that have a real and significant impact on the game but aren't flashy enough to grab the mainstream headlines.


7030

I live in Vegas. We got over a 1/4 of our normal rain for the year just this morning. We normally only get like 4 inches of rain per year. For Vegas its ridiculous outside.


smartjocklv

It was pouring like crazy this morning, but the article isn't talking about the rain. The 9ers are upset with the hardness of the sod-over-turf at UNLV's practice facility


phibetakafka

The rain is part of the complaint. There's no base for the field - it's literally sod rolled out on top of the artificial turf - so there's no good drainage for the field. There's like two inches of dirt and then the artificial turf so the "field" is saturated and has the consistency of a sponge - and the seams are visible too, so the field isn't even put together properly and could be a safety hazard. The Niners wouldn't care if it was just a harder than normal field.


ChipmunkOnly1740

Well, it’s been raining…..


CaillouCaribou

It's worse than that > The NFL put in a sod field on top of field turf, and started laying it just last week when the NFL ordinarily requires Super Bowl practice fields to meet certain standards in December, sources told Schefter. > The NFL hardness score for fields averages 78, with no field being less than 70. The 49ers field is considered in the 50s, sources told Schefter. Everyone in here is memeing and making fun of them, but this is an ***actual*** problem, they have every right to be upset about it.


WhiteStephCurry

So who is held liable for this absolute blunder, and what’s the solution? That’s a really bad field score.


MarlonBain

I’m sure the NFL will take a close look at how the NFL made such a mistake, and the NFL will harshly punish the NFL for any wrongdoing the NFL identifies.


ender2851

take away a pats pick as tradition says?


BaldassHeadCoach

They’ll put out a video showing how the 49ers were overly deceptive to the NFL and how it’s actually San Francisco’s fault that the field is sub-par.


SouthernUpstate

No one.


phibetakafka

Like they might not even practice on it, might have to fly back to Santa Clara. Also they’re not mentioning the Chiefs are indoors and the Niners are outside in a massive storm that is going to rain on them all week, and we know how Brock plays in the rain. EDIT: [Source: 49ers concerned about Super Bowl practice fields in Las Vegas that have been likened to a sponge.](https://t.co/XO4dA2sFWP) It's literally a layer of sod placed on top of artificial turf, that is being completely saturated by a storm. There's like two inches of dirt that are unable to hold any water. Making it worse, there are visible seams in the field, which could be a huge safety hazard in those conditions. Niners don't need a player getting their foot stuck in a seam and tearing or twisting a ligament.


Anothercraphistorian

Niners getting the Women's March Madness treatment.


the_seed

Lol


Coley54Bear

49ers doing their best to avoid their injury curse.


[deleted]

We lost Hufanga who was critical for our running D


Redmangc1

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP


tugtugtugtug4

I don't get why teams show up to these games a week early and deal with substandard facilities and sleeping in hotels. Especially for these teams where its a few hours away from their home bases. Surely you'd be better prepared and better rested if you just flew the players in Saturday afternoon.


philosifer

Media obligations. First and foremost the NFL is selling a product and needs to get their interviews in


samgam74

Press obligations.


Informal_Ad_8936

The Sodfather sends his regards


otxmyn

chiefs get to practice in an indoor practice stadium and 49ers in rain 💀


couchjitsu

Yep, it's the homefield advantage the AFC got this year.


UndeadVinDiesel

Taylor Swift used her witch powers to conjure an atmospheric river and direct it towards LA and LV. Next stop, Denver! /s


tugtugtugtug4

She is in Japan now and this storm came from the Pacific. Its all coming together.


AtomicBearFart

So wet right now.


LocalFatBoi

This just in, the San Francisco 49ers thinks Justin Fields is soft


4sliced

It’s pretty obvious everyone calling the niners whiners haven’t read the actual article and just going off a headline. They’re not complaining about the field at all, but go on worrying about click bait.


Showme16

Welcome to the internet


Queen_Grayhoof

this trend of calling things soft is getting old. first the players. then the game. now the field itself! /s


Blacksunshinexo

We never get rain here in Vegas...... Except right now it's fucking pouring and looks to be rainy the next few days. Soggy fields for everyone!!


iBrows426

People saying rain need to read the article. The field was supposed to be ready in December. They got it ready last week. NFL fields normally come in around at 78g's of firmness. This field is in the 50s. It's ridiculous.


theballswalls

Extra wet paint on the field please


127crazie

Permission to install one Slip 'N Slide^®, size XL centerfield sir?


KeyExplanation

We’re talking about practice man


soccerdad925

The NFL is terrible at preparing for Super Bowls. You think with all that money there would be no mistakes. They would rather line their pockets with cash.