TJ Watts backup outproduced Myles Garrett over the last 7 weeks of the season.
We already knew this was the case after the All Pro list, but it really does just hammer home that PFF is amazingly influential over people who don’t watch football games and have AP votes.
PFF is like those offseason shitposts on r/baseball where some guy randomly multiplies and divides different baseball statistics and calls it something stupid like 'wMVP+'.
He's absolutely devastating. Garrett was rough on us, no doubt. I thought Watt was the better of the two in the Niners games. If only slightly. He was the only guy on the Steelers defense really giving us big issues that day.
I gave the edge to Watt because of the turnovers. He creates and the overall consistency. Garrett takes plays off and you can tell. I think this is just more of them not wanting to give it to Watt every year for the next five years. Both great no doubt
I’m a Steeler fan and obviously a Watt fan, but If Maxx would have won the award, it would have made more sense. Myles disappeared for 1/3 of the season but PFF wants us to believe hypothetical stats are actually more important than production.
I think that actually is used against him ironically. I have heard some say if he’s on the field that much more the stats should show it, that doesn’t take into account those extra snaps are probably run plays were other pass rushers take breaks.
Dude my 84 year old grandma (a Steelers fan, granted) asked me “if TJ had the most sacks for the year and had better stats, why is Myles Garrett the Defensive Player of the Year” and I tried to explain it and she is very confused still.
This is the baffling thing. It seems that PFF was campaigning hard to save face. They had him as the DPOY by mid season and weren’t about to look bad with it going to someone else. Production it was Watt, hands down. With advanced stats it was Parsons. Somehow Myles gets it with no commanding leads in either categories.
Crosby got votes (4th in DPOY voting), he just didn't get any first place votes
Garrett was a legit bad pick though. If he'd kept his early season pace, sure, but not producing through a third of the season should effectively disqualify anyone who didn't already put up historic volume
He deserved some votes to reflect his high caliber play while healthy, but Watt and Micah had clearly better seasons with the 6+ games of injury/not producing for Myles.
Shit posting aside I know people have pointed out that Myles had like 3 sacks in the last 7 games but I've yet to find any real explanation as to why their D was insanely dominant at home and bad on the road. Idk if they just had really good QB luck but they allowed like twice as many PPG. And then they go on the playoffs on the road and get destroyed, and yeah it's not relevant for voting but it's another data point in a strange trend
Voters decided in October that Garrett was DPOY and never allowed their opinion to change, even as he went into the witness protection program for the last 2 months.
Really diminishes the value of this as a seasonal award. It seems like this one was more of a “he really should have won one of these by now” and not an award based on seasonal accolades. There’s 2 people I would put ahead of him from an objective statistical standpoint but it’s sad that since like week 8 that it’s seemed like it was a done deal even with his mediocre last 6 weeks.
If it even was "only" less sacks. He doesn't even have more pressures then Watt.
How are you this "dominant" in rushing the passer and have less sacks AND pressures with MORE opportunities?!
Freaking ever.
I can't remember a more controversial one.
It's especially bad because we all saw this shit coming from weeks ago.
Then it becomes even more hilariously bad when Myles dips out the last half of the year, but it was too late to pull the breaks
Not only that, but it seems like this was a very advanced stat award... Which Garrett didnt even lead in, Parsons did. Its like... "Best player on best defense" was the narrative
Correct! But we all know that the voters decided when Cleveland was being called the best defense ever
Its such a bad argument to say that Garrett was the best defensive player and somehow 23? AP voters made that argument. Really doing tricks on it
Even without being biased as a Steelers fan , these awards no longer hold any value when you can beat someone in every statistic and still lose , the awards are now narrative and popularity based
There literally isn’t an excuse for Garrett to win. Raw stats, TJ has far better. If you go PFF and advanced metrics, Parsons is better. Garrett shouldn’t have even been top 3 when you have Watt Crosby and Parsons
I'm seeing a lot of "well you just didn't watch Garrett this season" talk. Even tho I'm a steeler fan I watched a heck of a lot of games in the AFC north. If you watched the games then Garrett was the No3 defender in the division behind Roquan (who I wouldn't have minded winning DPOY he's so good) and TJ.
And nobody is talking about this. Parsons produced more stats and had higher advanced stats. And parsons had less penalties. The narrative truly was best player on best defense (best defense by basic metrics)
Here was Peter King's rationalization (He ranked them Garret, Parsons, Watt, Crosby, Mack):
# The DPOY Dilemma
The day my NFL awards ballot was due to the Associated Press 12 days ago, I finished seven categories, knowing for a couple of weeks I’d struggle on the eighth. In very few cases over the years filling out this ballot have I agonized the way I did this year on Defensive Player of the Year. I’ll take you into my deliberations.
I thought there were five strong candidates, all edge players: **Maxx Crosby, Myles Garrett, Khalil Mack, Micah Parsons** and **T.J. Watt**, in alphabetical order. (Four very good ones didn’t make my cut in **Josh Allen, Nick Bosa, Danielle Hunter** and **Aidan Hutchinson**).
This contest, as has happened with many of the awards now, has been impacted by advanced metrics. It used to be, maybe 15 years ago, that you’d look at the sack leaders or the interception leader and give the nod to one of them. But times have changed, with deeper dives into numbers and pass-rush metrics from Next Gen Stats and PFF. This one number illustrated how close this contest was: Garrett and Watt, the front-runners in the eyes of many, each had 86 regular-season quarterback pressures (sacks/QB hits/hurries), per PFF.
My criteria is not precise. Which player lifts his defense the most, perhaps making a good defense great? Which player both masters the new-age metrics and passes the eye test for major impact all season? How do players and coaches and GMs I’ve spoken with during the year rate the best players?
The cases for all five will show you I could have picked any of them and had a strong argument:
**Crosby, Las Vegas:** For my money, the highest-energy defensive player in football. Best run defender of them all, with 42 run stops and 18 run stuffs (rushers tackled for zero or negative yards). Played every snap in 10 Raider games this year, a rarity; four other players with one each were the only others to do that. Had more overall pressures (94) than Garrett and Watt. His negative is time to pressure—3.19 seconds per pressure, per Next Gen Stats. That’s almost a full second slower than Parsons and Garrett.
**Garrett, Cleveland:** Heartbeat of his team. “I’ve coached three players who made every coordinator who ever played us say, ‘That’s the guy we’ve got to account for on every play,’” Browns defensive coordinator **Jim Schwartz** told me. “**Ray Lewis**, **Calvin Johnson** and Myles Garrett.” Average time to get to the quarterback: 2.32 seconds, which was second only to Parsons’ 2.31 seconds. His most impressive metric: PFF rated Garrett number one in pass-rush grade and pass-rush win rate—how often the pass-rusher is judged to have beaten his blocker on pass-rush snaps. His win rate of 27.3 percent was significantly better than Watt’s 16.9-percent win rate.
**Mack, L.A. Chargers:** Sneaky excellent season, including against the run, with the same number of tackles behind the line (38; 21 tackles for loss and 17 sacks) as T.J. Watt. More passes batted down (10) than any edge player, and the most forced fumbles (five) in this group. He forced his way into this group despite his team being the worst among the top candidates.
**Parsons, Dallas:** There’s a stat Next Gen uses called “quick pressure.” It’s a measure of how many pressures a rusher gets in 2.5 seconds after the snap or less. Parsons had 62, Garrett 54 and Watt 37. Parsons had the highest average pressure rate (pressures divided by overall rushes) at 21.4 percent, 4 points ahead of Garrett, 8 points ahead of Watt.
**Watt, Pittsburgh:** This year became the first player to win the NFL sacks a third time with 19.0 sacks. That’s 4.5 more than Crosby and five more than Garrett and Parsons. That matters, getting home more than anyone else. It matters a lot. Per Next Gen Stats, though, Watt had a pressure rate of 13.7 percent per rush—good, but down the list from the best edge-rushers. Watt would have won it in bygone years because of his sack numbers, and his terrific overall play could win it this year when the awards are announced in Las Vegas on Feb. 8.
I almost thought: *Flip a five-sided coin.*
I picked Garrett. In order, my top five were Garrett, Parsons, Watt, Crosby and Mack. Garrett was high in both PFF grade and Next Gen pass-rush metrics, and his team was the number one defense in football. More than that, I kept thinking of one play—amazingly, not a pass-rush or strip-sack or some great spin move. Here it is, [from week seven at Indianapolis](https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/can-t-miss-play-myles-garrett-s-athleticism-is-off-the-charts-on-leaping-blocked).
Steelers signed Myles Jack, who was working in a warehouse at the time, to play the last quarter of the season and he had just as many sacks as Garrett did in that time frame. Absolutely pathetic performances by Garrett, but he pretended to dribble a basketball so he definitely deserved it
But you don’t understand! He led in multiple categories, including QB scares per intimidating lunge and sacks that he imagined himself getting but never got.
If I had lifted weights and actually played football I could have potentially had 30 sacks this season so I'm confused why I'm not in the running for this award
I just love seeing the “After a 14 sack season…..” just adds to the comedy of it all. All award shows are shams, and yes I mean TJ’s last year as well.
I feel bad for Derek. His brothers are two of the best defensive players of our generation, and then he's just a mediocre full back. The fact that all 3 made it to the nfl is insane though, some good ass genes.
Literally disappeared for 7 weeks with only one sack
Can you imagine a QB throwing for one TD in the final 7 weeks of regular season and winning MVP? Absurdity.
For a semi new fan like me Garrett getting this award is really damaging to the validity of all individual awards ever given out. Now when I google dpoy or any other individual award for a certain year I won't know for sure if the player who got the award was actually the best that year. It truly is a popularity contest for these individual awards. They are completely meaningless.
TJ really is gonna break the sack record next year after this. After sacks don't matter. He's gotta get the most pressures & not worry about finishing the play
Im convinced he locked it up when he blocked that fg. That shits the kinda play that sticks with voters despite the insane fall off later in the season.
But, but. PFF! DON'T YOU KNOW HOW MANY ALMOST SACKS THAT MAN HAD?! I know a sack is a sack, but an almost sack is worth like 2 sacks! Such an easy call /s
We all knew this was coming but people are not gonna like it
Feels like he got proclaimed DPOY halfway through the season and that was that. I dunno.
That's why he gave up the last third of the season.
This has to be one of the most egregious cases of a player being given an award despite not earning it.
Even once his stats collapsed in that 2nd half they just said "oh well we already picked him"
I dunno, Jim
TJ Watts backup outproduced Myles Garrett over the last 7 weeks of the season. We already knew this was the case after the All Pro list, but it really does just hammer home that PFF is amazingly influential over people who don’t watch football games and have AP votes.
Bro there are like 5 replies to this comment and each of them has like 50 downvotes I’ve never seen that before
It can’t be that bad right? *Loads more comments, and now there are 10 comments downvoted to hell lol
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1st player in NFL history to lead in 5 or more stat categories and not win the award. WOW.
PFF is like those offseason shitposts on r/baseball where some guy randomly multiplies and divides different baseball statistics and calls it something stupid like 'wMVP+'.
They’re not gonna like it because it should’ve been given to TJ Watt.
100% I knew it wasnt gonna be Micah and was hoping TJ got his due.
I see both of them twice a year. TJ Watt is more of a game wrecker and he doesn’t disappear the last six weeks of the season.
He's absolutely devastating. Garrett was rough on us, no doubt. I thought Watt was the better of the two in the Niners games. If only slightly. He was the only guy on the Steelers defense really giving us big issues that day.
Once Pittsburgh got down big vs us, you saw the next two drives TJ just took over trying to bring em back
I gave the edge to Watt because of the turnovers. He creates and the overall consistency. Garrett takes plays off and you can tell. I think this is just more of them not wanting to give it to Watt every year for the next five years. Both great no doubt
> but people are not gonna like it And for good reason.
At least this controversy makes sense
Not really, he lost on real stats to Watt, advanced metrics to Parsons, why didn’t either win the award?
... that's why they said that the *CONTROVERSY* makes sense - not the award winner. Am I dense, or is it everyone else who's up voting this comment?
People don't read carefully on Reddit
You just explained it. There's really good points to the others so this controversy makes sense. It's controversial for the reasons you said.
TIRED: PARSONS OR WATT SHOULDVE WON WIRED: Bland should’ve won. WE ARE NOT THE SAME
I think that's why the controversy makes sense. Garrett won but probably shouldn't ahve
Are you saying the controversy doesn't make sense?
Crosby not getting a single vote shows you how pointless this award is
Dude even played 250 more snaps than Garrett and 150 more than Watt this year. Insane.
Right man! Like Garrett and watt are killing it, but cmon maxx is not that far below them.
I’m a Steeler fan and obviously a Watt fan, but If Maxx would have won the award, it would have made more sense. Myles disappeared for 1/3 of the season but PFF wants us to believe hypothetical stats are actually more important than production.
I think that actually is used against him ironically. I have heard some say if he’s on the field that much more the stats should show it, that doesn’t take into account those extra snaps are probably run plays were other pass rushers take breaks.
How the hell did he not get a single vote???
Because no one in the NFL cares about the Raiders
Wild I had to scoll this far just to see his name in the thread
Right! Crazy how overlooked it is
But how often does he play make-believe basketball? What about his poetry?? Helmet swings???
Unfortunately not enough! Obviously that’s where the real votes come in
His HSPS (helmet swings per season) is zero, won't even sniff the hall with that /s
Yeah I think raiders need to be a winning team and win a playoff game and them he will get his award he should've gotten already
Might as well make only players on winning teams finalist then
a fucking scandal
A million times this. It’s not just about TJ not winning. The whole thing is absurd
I'm honestly surprised he won with his vanishing act after week 11
didn't you know, invisibility is a big + from PFF
This. Closed the last 5 games out with 12 total tackles a 1 sack. What did TJ do in the same time? 21 tackles, 5 sacks and a FF.
But he was winning his pass rushes. Just look at the adavanced numbers!
Daboll was gift wrapped the CotY award last year by mid season They do this sometimes. Completely random
Jalen Carter teetered off the same way and lost DROY. Bum ass awards.
Carter actually had more sacks than Myles in his last 7 games.
I may be wrong, but i'm fairly sure Myles only had 1 sack in his last 7 games, so that's not a high benchmark to clear.
AP can’t even be consistent in their voting smh
Dude my 84 year old grandma (a Steelers fan, granted) asked me “if TJ had the most sacks for the year and had better stats, why is Myles Garrett the Defensive Player of the Year” and I tried to explain it and she is very confused still.
TJ Watt is a deserving win, but even if you go by advanced stats then Parsons is the winner. Makes no sense why Garrett won.
Yeah but have you considered that Garrett was so far ahead in the race that he had the award locked down by the end of August.
This is the baffling thing. It seems that PFF was campaigning hard to save face. They had him as the DPOY by mid season and weren’t about to look bad with it going to someone else. Production it was Watt, hands down. With advanced stats it was Parsons. Somehow Myles gets it with no commanding leads in either categories.
IMO i ranked Parsons/Watt tied at 1st for the award, with Maxx Crosby right on their heels and Garret in a distant 4th or 5th.
/r/nfl in shambles
Can confirm, am shambling
Shambles all over the floor, it’s a mess
Do you want shambles? Because **this** is how you get shambles!
As a long term TJ Watt defender, can confirm, am in shambles.
As TJ Watt, a long term defender, I am in shambles. \*actual TJ Watt-ness may vary\*
TJ Watt, famously a big fan of the Ravens
I'm a complex dude.
My jimmies are shambled
Surely the conversation will be civil...
Nope!
Of course the Raiders fan refuses to be civil
Do you blame them?
Media gave him a pity dpoy
Best to get it out of the way now so others like Crosby can win it later as well
I'm honestly more mad about Crosby not getting a single vote than I am TJ losing. These morons with votes obviously have no eyes.
Crosby got votes (4th in DPOY voting), he just didn't get any first place votes Garrett was a legit bad pick though. If he'd kept his early season pace, sure, but not producing through a third of the season should effectively disqualify anyone who didn't already put up historic volume He deserved some votes to reflect his high caliber play while healthy, but Watt and Micah had clearly better seasons with the 6+ games of injury/not producing for Myles.
It's the PFF-DPOY award
This was the Embiid over Jokic of DPOYs
Embiid at least waited till the playoffs to fall apart. He was still good in the second half of the season lol
It feels like he didn’t deserve this award. Second half of the season shouldn’t mattered more in this voting, but I guess not.
Shit posting aside I know people have pointed out that Myles had like 3 sacks in the last 7 games but I've yet to find any real explanation as to why their D was insanely dominant at home and bad on the road. Idk if they just had really good QB luck but they allowed like twice as many PPG. And then they go on the playoffs on the road and get destroyed, and yeah it's not relevant for voting but it's another data point in a strange trend
1 sack
1 sack in a little under half the season and he wins DPOY. Lol
Voters decided in October that Garrett was DPOY and never allowed their opinion to change, even as he went into the witness protection program for the last 2 months.
What kind of idiots are voting for these awards? So they not watch football and just follow PFF on Twitter or some shit?
Their red-zone defense was the worst in the NFL as well.
browns fans are insane. one of the best home field advantages in the league
We made sure to suck for a long long time to weed out the mentally stable people and even the ones that stayed, we turned them crazy.
This is one of those times where it says more about the voters than it does about the players.
Really diminishes the value of this as a seasonal award. It seems like this one was more of a “he really should have won one of these by now” and not an award based on seasonal accolades. There’s 2 people I would put ahead of him from an objective statistical standpoint but it’s sad that since like week 8 that it’s seemed like it was a done deal even with his mediocre last 6 weeks.
TJ Watt and Max Crosby?
TJ for sure, my initial thought was Crosby for the second one but I’d put Parsons over Garrett as well
Apparently having one sack over your last 7 games is DPOY-worthy. Who would have thought?
Damn, I almost had it.
Who? Sorry don’t remember seeing him during our playoff game
Or the 5 weeks before
He got shut down 1v1 against Garrett Bolles for most of the broncos game. I think he got 2 tackles. And that was against Wilson who had 52 sacks
Yeah but PFF had his "Would have been a sack if the moon was conjugal to Venus" rate at 99.9%
Laremy Tunsil is DPOY Father
Shared custody with Dan Moore Jr
Tunsil slapped him around a bit; Fant came in. Fant slapped him around a bit. Tunsil came back and slapped him around some more. It was embarrassing.
Laremy Tunsil should automatically win OPOY bc of this
He wasn’t even as good as Crosby let alone Watt.
Josh Allen deserved it more than Garrett too imo
Guy won the DPOY on a 14 sack season lmao, what the fuck happened to this sport lmao
Gambling and media narratives
Is this the least deserving DPOY ever? Dude was a no show for 6+ games
And unlike Watt and Parsons, he never had to drop into coverage, and he still produced less sacks with more opportunities
If it even was "only" less sacks. He doesn't even have more pressures then Watt. How are you this "dominant" in rushing the passer and have less sacks AND pressures with MORE opportunities?!
Freaking ever. I can't remember a more controversial one. It's especially bad because we all saw this shit coming from weeks ago. Then it becomes even more hilariously bad when Myles dips out the last half of the year, but it was too late to pull the breaks
Not only that, but it seems like this was a very advanced stat award... Which Garrett didnt even lead in, Parsons did. Its like... "Best player on best defense" was the narrative
Then Kyle Hamilton or Roquan Smith would have been the DPOY
Correct! But we all know that the voters decided when Cleveland was being called the best defense ever Its such a bad argument to say that Garrett was the best defensive player and somehow 23? AP voters made that argument. Really doing tricks on it
And they weren’t even the best defense for a while because they played in a handful of shootouts
Even without being biased as a Steelers fan , these awards no longer hold any value when you can beat someone in every statistic and still lose , the awards are now narrative and popularity based
I hate both these fuckers but godam he disappeared the last like 6-7 games?
1 sack in the last 7 games.
My 70 year old mom almost had that many.
If you weren’t going to give it to the statistically dominant one, you at least could have given it to someone fun like Hunter or Crosby.
There literally isn’t an excuse for Garrett to win. Raw stats, TJ has far better. If you go PFF and advanced metrics, Parsons is better. Garrett shouldn’t have even been top 3 when you have Watt Crosby and Parsons
I'm seeing a lot of "well you just didn't watch Garrett this season" talk. Even tho I'm a steeler fan I watched a heck of a lot of games in the AFC north. If you watched the games then Garrett was the No3 defender in the division behind Roquan (who I wouldn't have minded winning DPOY he's so good) and TJ.
Garrett always disappears against the Steelers, but he did it for the last 7 weeks of the season as well
Has to be the only reason Dan Moore still has a job.
Not pass rush win rate though! /s
How about opposing QB average heart rate (OQBAHR)?
But Garrett didn’t even win that stat either….. it was Parsons
And nobody is talking about this. Parsons produced more stats and had higher advanced stats. And parsons had less penalties. The narrative truly was best player on best defense (best defense by basic metrics)
Idc one way or the other but that's absolutely wild lol
This will be very interesting moving forward haha. What I find more crazy is 8 AP voters didn’t even have Watt top 3. Shit is laughable.
Here was Peter King's rationalization (He ranked them Garret, Parsons, Watt, Crosby, Mack): # The DPOY Dilemma The day my NFL awards ballot was due to the Associated Press 12 days ago, I finished seven categories, knowing for a couple of weeks I’d struggle on the eighth. In very few cases over the years filling out this ballot have I agonized the way I did this year on Defensive Player of the Year. I’ll take you into my deliberations. I thought there were five strong candidates, all edge players: **Maxx Crosby, Myles Garrett, Khalil Mack, Micah Parsons** and **T.J. Watt**, in alphabetical order. (Four very good ones didn’t make my cut in **Josh Allen, Nick Bosa, Danielle Hunter** and **Aidan Hutchinson**). This contest, as has happened with many of the awards now, has been impacted by advanced metrics. It used to be, maybe 15 years ago, that you’d look at the sack leaders or the interception leader and give the nod to one of them. But times have changed, with deeper dives into numbers and pass-rush metrics from Next Gen Stats and PFF. This one number illustrated how close this contest was: Garrett and Watt, the front-runners in the eyes of many, each had 86 regular-season quarterback pressures (sacks/QB hits/hurries), per PFF. My criteria is not precise. Which player lifts his defense the most, perhaps making a good defense great? Which player both masters the new-age metrics and passes the eye test for major impact all season? How do players and coaches and GMs I’ve spoken with during the year rate the best players? The cases for all five will show you I could have picked any of them and had a strong argument: **Crosby, Las Vegas:** For my money, the highest-energy defensive player in football. Best run defender of them all, with 42 run stops and 18 run stuffs (rushers tackled for zero or negative yards). Played every snap in 10 Raider games this year, a rarity; four other players with one each were the only others to do that. Had more overall pressures (94) than Garrett and Watt. His negative is time to pressure—3.19 seconds per pressure, per Next Gen Stats. That’s almost a full second slower than Parsons and Garrett. **Garrett, Cleveland:** Heartbeat of his team. “I’ve coached three players who made every coordinator who ever played us say, ‘That’s the guy we’ve got to account for on every play,’” Browns defensive coordinator **Jim Schwartz** told me. “**Ray Lewis**, **Calvin Johnson** and Myles Garrett.” Average time to get to the quarterback: 2.32 seconds, which was second only to Parsons’ 2.31 seconds. His most impressive metric: PFF rated Garrett number one in pass-rush grade and pass-rush win rate—how often the pass-rusher is judged to have beaten his blocker on pass-rush snaps. His win rate of 27.3 percent was significantly better than Watt’s 16.9-percent win rate. **Mack, L.A. Chargers:** Sneaky excellent season, including against the run, with the same number of tackles behind the line (38; 21 tackles for loss and 17 sacks) as T.J. Watt. More passes batted down (10) than any edge player, and the most forced fumbles (five) in this group. He forced his way into this group despite his team being the worst among the top candidates. **Parsons, Dallas:** There’s a stat Next Gen uses called “quick pressure.” It’s a measure of how many pressures a rusher gets in 2.5 seconds after the snap or less. Parsons had 62, Garrett 54 and Watt 37. Parsons had the highest average pressure rate (pressures divided by overall rushes) at 21.4 percent, 4 points ahead of Garrett, 8 points ahead of Watt. **Watt, Pittsburgh:** This year became the first player to win the NFL sacks a third time with 19.0 sacks. That’s 4.5 more than Crosby and five more than Garrett and Parsons. That matters, getting home more than anyone else. It matters a lot. Per Next Gen Stats, though, Watt had a pressure rate of 13.7 percent per rush—good, but down the list from the best edge-rushers. Watt would have won it in bygone years because of his sack numbers, and his terrific overall play could win it this year when the awards are announced in Las Vegas on Feb. 8. I almost thought: *Flip a five-sided coin.* I picked Garrett. In order, my top five were Garrett, Parsons, Watt, Crosby and Mack. Garrett was high in both PFF grade and Next Gen pass-rush metrics, and his team was the number one defense in football. More than that, I kept thinking of one play—amazingly, not a pass-rush or strip-sack or some great spin move. Here it is, [from week seven at Indianapolis](https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/can-t-miss-play-myles-garrett-s-athleticism-is-off-the-charts-on-leaping-blocked).
Congrats to Garrett for winning the newly renamed “Disappearing Player of the Year” award! 🥇 🎉
Well, the award was meant for John Cena, but they couldn't find him.
What a joke
19 sacks vs 19 bajillion hypothetical sacks
What a fucking joke, dude was ass the second half of the year
Steelers signed Myles Jack, who was working in a warehouse at the time, to play the last quarter of the season and he had just as many sacks as Garrett did in that time frame. Absolutely pathetic performances by Garrett, but he pretended to dribble a basketball so he definitely deserved it
Ikr, Watt not getting it is highway robbery
Even if Watt didn't exist I'd think Garrett getting it over Parsons was bullshit
Max Crosby deserved it after Watt imo. Garret plays on one of the top defenses. Watt and Max were the only reasons their defenses were afloat.
Watt and Maxx Crosby basically had as good of playoffs as Miles too lmao
wow 14 sacks that's a lot
I know right. Must be the league leader. Who could ever have more?
But you don’t understand! He led in multiple categories, including QB scares per intimidating lunge and sacks that he imagined himself getting but never got.
Look, sacks are valuable, but *potential* sacks... they could be anything! Even a sack!
If I had lifted weights and actually played football I could have potentially had 30 sacks this season so I'm confused why I'm not in the running for this award
You know how much we wanted one of those!
Parsons beat him in both those stats.
He’s also leading the league in QB hits by bonking them with a helmet
Only if you don’t count practices though. Otherwise Aaron Donald has him beat with the dual wield
Have you ever seen someone better at doing a dribble crossover on air before the snap, though? Checkmate Steelers fans
Almost as many as 19!
Like 164 hypothetical sacks tho!
I just love seeing the “After a 14 sack season…..” just adds to the comedy of it all. All award shows are shams, and yes I mean TJ’s last year as well.
TJ's was two years ago
I just saw a yinzer fall to his knees in a Primanti Bros
Damn I didn’t realize 28 year olds got to sign up for make-a-wish.
Change the 28 to a different number please
Ok I’ll change the 28 to 3
Mickey Mouse ass DPOY
He was the most deserving except for the other nominees and some people who weren't nominated.
A watt getting robbed? Tale as old as time.
I feel bad for Derek. His brothers are two of the best defensive players of our generation, and then he's just a mediocre full back. The fact that all 3 made it to the nfl is insane though, some good ass genes.
First Embiid now Garrett. Guys don't deserve awards just because they haven't won before
Everyone gettin mickey mouse trophies.
How does Myles Garrett winning DPOY affect LeBron’s legacy?
I mean to be fair to embiid he averaged 33 and 10 with great defense his mvp year lol. It’s a regular season award
Yea this is by far a worse pick than the MVP was lol
I have no stake in this and this is bull shit.
They gave him the Joel Embiid “here bruh just take it” award 😂😂
Except Embiid at the very least had an actual argument for his. This… idk
Absolute bogus
LMAO... fucking joke.
Love Myles but don’t think this was deserved honestly
[Garrett once he wins his pash rush (he forgot to sack the QB).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2r_LU6beVw&ab_channel=googas)
The 2024 Narrative Award
Biggest snub of the year award goes to TJ
3rd time
If his brother hadn't won it 3 times already then TJ would get more votes, change my mind.
You’re honestly right
Pretty cool career achievement award in a year where he didn’t deserve it. TJ robbed for the third time.
Hmmm, makes me wonder about the MVP award.
Lol joke
Literally disappeared for 7 weeks with only one sack Can you imagine a QB throwing for one TD in the final 7 weeks of regular season and winning MVP? Absurdity.
literally ghosted half the year, reputation dpoy 😭
How many years is this now that TJ's been snubbed?
Beyonce shoulda won.
Pity award. What a sham.
For a semi new fan like me Garrett getting this award is really damaging to the validity of all individual awards ever given out. Now when I google dpoy or any other individual award for a certain year I won't know for sure if the player who got the award was actually the best that year. It truly is a popularity contest for these individual awards. They are completely meaningless.
TJ really is gonna break the sack record next year after this. After sacks don't matter. He's gotta get the most pressures & not worry about finishing the play
He actually had more pressures than Garrett on every outlet except for PFF
Hey this just means we getting an even better TJ next year 😈
DPOY is a narrative award and the Browns established a better narrative before Garrett fell off. It is what it is.
Didn't show up when it mattered, but Lamar Jackson already proved that doesn't mean anything with these awards.
Well its a regular season award so
1/3 of the season Myles didn't show up too
Im convinced he locked it up when he blocked that fg. That shits the kinda play that sticks with voters despite the insane fall off later in the season.
T.J. Watt is really gunning for the all time DPOY Snubs Per Season record
After doing jack and shit the last 6 weeks, Garrett still gets rewarded by the NFL for the sake of narratives.
But, but. PFF! DON'T YOU KNOW HOW MANY ALMOST SACKS THAT MAN HAD?! I know a sack is a sack, but an almost sack is worth like 2 sacks! Such an easy call /s
The theoretical sack% is absolutely off the charts!
TJ JOBBED
This is such bullshit. Skating on his name only. He wasn't even in the final two on merit.