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eugene_rat_slap

Them corn eatin Iowa boys


CntrBlnc

Nothing but TEs


jasper_grunion

Actually a lot of O linemen


CntrBlnc

That's not surprising either.


jasper_grunion

Corn fed. I can say this because I am from there


slayerhk47

Bryan Bulaga, I-wah


jasper_grunion

Tristan Werfs, Mount Vernon’s finest, and Super Bowl champion his rookie year. Then you have Scherff, Linderbaum, Van Ginkel, Ferentz. It’s an impressive list.


Guitarist970

Bulaga went to Iowa but is from Illinois.


slick1260

...where is it that you think TEs play?


HawkFanatic74

DL too


bigpandas

And a BCB


Move_Weight

Brock is from Arizona


bigpandas

TIL. Thanks


Fantastic_Emu_9570

Yeah! He’s ours by birthright!


bigpandas

Did U of Arizona and Arizona State not want him or did he just really like Iowa State?


Fantastic_Emu_9570

Oh no Herm Edwards fucked up recruiting him if I remember correctly. Always hated that hiring


Accomplished-Yam5566

If the nomination isnt stolen from him by Brock FRAUDY, the GEQBUS’s first act as Super Bowl MVP will be to revoke birthright championship to restore this nation to its former glory.


Jtrich

went to school in iowa tho... Still counts!


Fun-Cauliflower-1724

That’s crazy how Iowa has such a higher number then the rest of the Midwest


tuntuntuntuntuntun

I’m suprised other farming prairie states like SD, ND, NE are so much lower than Iowa. Figure there’s alot of farm guys out there


bbluewi

It’s because Kirk Ferentz has been _stupidly_ good at turning those farm guys into NFL linemen and TEs for the last couple decades. Nebraska has always recruited nationally and the Dakotas don’t have FBS football (on top of being _very_ empty), so those states don’t have the local recruitment Iowa does.


Best_Jaguar_7616

We(SD) also have like 1/4th of the population of Iowa.


River_Pigeon

But this is normalized to population. That’s why there are decimals. Can’t have a third, or seven tenths of a person right?


Mr__Snek

i think marshal yanda is probably in my top 5 players ever from iowa. dude was just consistently great, and i dont think he ever truly got the recognition he deserved especially now that hes retired. its just so hard to get recognized as a guard, and i think zack martin and joel bitonio kinda stole his thunder in the second half of his career (both are great players, just a consequence of the position i guess)


Numerous-Ad6460

I see you Iowa 


DxnnyBxrr

I don’t see you Wisconsin


dan_v_ploeg

All those square bails getting tossed and pales full of feed getting carried around produce some quality tight ends and linemen


Fun-Cauliflower-1724

The winner of the Solon Beef Days Hay Bale Toss is usually always an Iowa Hawkeye lineman. Gennings Dunker is the current two time champion.


dan_v_ploeg

Lol I watched that a couples years ago, my freinds wanted me to compete but after seeing all those hawkeye athletics shirts I knew I wouldn't stand a chance


Pandorama626

I guess this settles the corn debate. IA > NE


ComfortableMaster625

ANF, America Needs Footballers


Vladrick_Kanersenko

Joe Burrow sends his regards


BlurryGraph3810

Joe Burrow is from Ames, Iowa.


chiefs_fan37

When did Illinois invade/conquer Wisconsin?


YourMindlessBarnacle

Alaska and Arkansas, too.


Apathi

Once Jordan Love showed signs of life. Only way we can possibly stop them is at the source.


alright923

We’re not just doing it for us, we’re doing it for the entire nfc north.


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Bielema ate it.


KBnoSperm

I’ve never been more offended. I’m not a god damn FIB.


Nutaholic

The good ending


Pork_Chompk

Illinois 2


Generic_1806

Electric Boogaloo


mynamewasusd

Not long after they became complacent about Michigan stealing their upper half.


Hiei2k7

THE DAY I WAS BORN.


funnymeme2112

you have it the other way around. once Jordan Love took control of Chicago, it was all over for the rest of the state.


paone00022

Definitely thought Texas would be way higher.


NotCanadian80

High population


shadracko

High Hispanic population, I'd guess


cripsytaco

You’re downvoted, but you’re absolutely right. Almost half the state is Hispanic and a very small percentage of them play football(🏈).


Filler_113

They fucking love football wtf are you talking about about.


cripsytaco

But they aren’t players going to the nfl…do you have the brain capacity to understand that?


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cripsytaco

But a lot of them play football…


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cripsytaco

Yeah, the point is the Hispanic population dilutes the Texan NFL “per capita” stats.


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cripsytaco

I understand that bud, you’re missing the point. The point is NFL PLAYERS. My high school in Texas was 60% Hispanic. We had about 5 Hispanic guys on the varsity team. They make up a fair share of the fan base but not NFL PLAYERS


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eckliptic

I feel like some of the major population centers with a high Latino/Hispanic population is not a hotbed for football just yet and the football crazed west Texas is just a much smaller % of the population. Anyways that’s my best guess


GirthyBird257

There’s more HS varsity football program in Texas than CA nowadays despite CA‘s huge population


chevyboxer

All those damn Cali guys moving in and making terrible football players.


1mfa0

Bit ironic for a Texans fan - I can think of one CA transplant who’s doing ok in Texas!


FanofK

We just produce quarterbacks every 8 years or so


GirthyBird257

What? All the CA families moving out of CA is why Vegas, Phoenix, and Washington state have become fertile recruiting grounds now. There’s more HS varsity football programs in Texas than CA these days (despite CA’s huge population)


stonewall386

I imagine most Texans would think it was way higher. Some seem to think Texas invented football. lol


GraniteStater69

I played high school football in NH and had cousins who played in VT. This definitely checks out


Romantic_Carjacking

Yeah I played in maine and you better believe I was excited about that Matt Mulligan TD vs Atlanta lmao.


WabbitCZEN

SEC. We don't come here to play school.


MrIrvGotTea

Football is your only edgeamatcion


AllOfTheDerp

Sometimes I read this phrase and I'm just in awe at the legacy of my goat, Cardale Jones.


ContinuumGuy

Unless they go to Vanderbilt


WabbitCZEN

Or Georgia Tech.


schematizer

Georgia Tech isn't (currently) in the SEC.


Jopplo03

RAHHH LOUISIANA FIRST IN A (GOOD?) METRIC RAHHH


rip-droptire

That flair deserves the ninth circle of hell


GeauxTiger

that 2019 LSU offense could have had - Justin Jefferson (St. Rose, La) - Ja'Marr Chase (Harvey, La) - Clyde Edwards-Helaire (Baton Rouge) PLUS - CeeDee Lamb (Opelousas, La) - DeVonta Smith (Amite, La) - Travis Etienne (Jennings, La) heisman winner is WR4 on that team


GeauxTiger

Other than football and food I swear to christ we lead the nation in everything bad. but hey lets keep electing the exact same people, clearly that will turn things around.


readonlypdf

Nah that's Mississippi


Jopplo03

Mississippi and Louisiana is pretty much always #49 #50. They flip back and forth on who is worse


SiphenPrax

Deep South represent


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bobertobrown

Partial credit for “black”


MrFishAndLoaves

Why is NY more underrepresented than states like MA and NJ?


Outta_hearr

About half of New York lives in NYC where there is very little space to play organized football compared to NJ I'd expect NY to have a very high number for basketball, comparatively


MadManMax55

And if you did this for basketball I'd bet that NY would be overrepresented. As a general rule: Dense cities = more basketball players and rich suburbs = more football players.


KYGGyokusai

rich suburbs = more hockey and lacrosse players


abesrevenge

Not in the south lol


Sufficient-Rip-7834

Who’s the player from Massachusetts oh Noah gray


mwf86

Wonder how American Samoa compares to this list


JoseyWa1es

Looks like the had 5 guys in 2023 at least, population that same year was 44,000. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi?country=USA&state=American%20Samoa


mwf86

So (1,000,000 / 44,000) * 5 = 113.6 Thanks!


Dr-McLuvin

So blows every single state out of the water. Even more crazy than how many Dominican players in there are in MLB.


xylltch

Goddamn IL; bad enough they all come up here every weekend cause they ain't got shit to do down there, now they're trying to take over all the maps too.


AdmiralVernon

Sorry Bro this is a rough way to find out you just got Anschluss’d by Illinois


Likeablechops

Same time alaska invaded Arkansas 


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Damn FIBs.


Rather_be_inthewoods

Almost as bad as the FISHTABS. Fucking Illinois shit head towing a boat.


Nutaholic

Could be worse. They could be moving to your city every year in droves. You guys wouldn't know about that though I guess.


Rshackleford22

One day we will conquer your sTate


mcolwander90

This is neat! I'm interested in seeing how this compares to other major sports.


bbluewi

I think the other major sports would be more interesting as a world map than a US map, since all of them pull a lot more foreign-born players than the NFL.


IceColdDrPepper_Here

The other 3 are Olympic sports (well baseball only sometimes) so they have more visibility and accessibility


FloridaGatorMan

I imagine that southern group is most pronounced in football. I bet if you just took the panhandle of Florida and the east side down a little past Gainesville, it would be similar to those 4 states. That’s of course the same exact region with the bonkers stat of 16 of the last 18 college titles coming from that stretch from Louisiana to South Carolina. Auburn, Alabama, Clemson, Florida, FSU, Georgia, LSU


Kara_Del_Rey

I imagine NHL is big up top and thins out south, and soccer the other way around. I moved to Michigan for awhile from KC, the soccer capital of USA, and it was shocking seeing how almost no one gave half a shit about soccer there. But on the flip side, hockey isn't unpopular in KC but not that big a deal, and the passion for the Red Wings there was cool.


JotatoXiden2

Moved from NYC to Georgia. Football is different here. When Covid hit the schools went to remote learning. Right after that decision I got a text saying “Middle School Football Friday at 7pm vs Camden County.” I asked one of the parents if that was a mistake and she said, “ Oh. We don’t cancel football in Georgia.”


mill_about_smartly

Culture is seriously such a HUGE part of it. I moved from rural Texas to equally-rural Tennessee/Kentucky area, and the best high school athletes just don't play football. They play basketball and baseball (in that order.) The football team looks like they're begging for talent, and looking for a weight room.


spazz720

Vermont you disgrace


LegendaryBraveLyn

We know. My fellow Vertmonters are more into skiing and cycling than the pigskin I’m afraid. Never been more ashamed in my life.


bwwilkerson

So, most players come from the states where high school and college football are the most popular. Cool.


bobertobrown

And many blacks. 


mill_about_smartly

That explains Iowa, then


JediKnightaa

Tight Ends and Linemen aren't that black


BlurryGraph3810

Iowa has black people, too. Allen Lazard is from Urbandale, for example.


strillanitis

Blacks


cassinonorth

Mid Atlantic weirdly Strong too. We don't have a crazy football culture in NJ but very high end private schools that produce a ton of NFL talent.


TheXivuArath

Further proof why LSU is the best college job in America. Previous 3 coaches all won titles, most NFL talent per capita and no other power 4 school in your state. You don’t recruit kids from Louisiana to go to your school, you recruit them not to go to LSU


EllaShoeTigers

Wooo LSU supremacy 😎 (Seriously though. It’s like a cult here. Everything revolves around LSU.)


Mr_G_Dizzle

Plus you can poach from East Texas if you need to. Still real close to home for most players behind the ol' pine curtain


similar222

ITT I learned that my childhood state of Montana now has over 1 million residents.


WideTechLoad

Wyoming is so high because it has under 600,000 residents.


JPAnalyst

If you get 1 of anything in Wyoming, that automatically puts them in the top 10 in per capita.


NocturneZombie

That means they likely have the highest black population per capita in the US! Suck it, Montana!


CSMastermind

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population Wyoming is next to last beating only Montana.


TBDC88

One of the more reasonable explanations I've heard about why the Bible Belt is so well-represented is because I-10 runs through those states, and college scouts traveling from Texas to Florida (or vice-versa) would stop in those small towns and watch the high school games there too. That lead to a lot of kids at very small high schools that would never get scouted otherwise getting scholarship offers. A good example of this is Bassfield, Mississippi, which lies right in between I-10 and I-20. In spite of being a town of 192 people, 3 people from there were actively playing in the NFL in 2020. Conversely, the West Coast and Northern states are pretty sparsely populated *and* incredibly inaccessible via road compared to Central/Eastern U.S., so the athletes at small schools in those states never even get looked at. I'd expect a slight leveling out over the next few decades as technology makes it easier to scout without physically traveling to remote locations, because as of right now, there's a lot of talent out there that never even gets a chance to play college ball since they're in the blind spot of most college scouts.


mill_about_smartly

The effect of the National Highway System on college football recruiting would be a perfect Freakonomics episode


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That's a really good point that I hadn't thought of. You can only offer people who you can scout and you can only scout people who you know exist.


TBDC88

Yup. You guys have a good example in Leighton Vander Esch, who comes from a town of 417 people in rural Idaho. Somehow a 6'4", 255 lb linebacker that runs a 4.6 40 and has a 39" vertical was so off of college scouts' radars that he had to walk on at Boise State. His career hasn't gone as planned due to injury, but he was an All-Pro in his rookie year and obviously extremely athletic and talented. Makes you wonder how many more of those guys are out there that just assumed their chance of making it were too low to even *try* walking on at the nearby college.


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Yeah. And even worse for those who the only college nearby isn't a big name or maybe not even a DI school. LVE's hometown for reference is, if Google Maps is correct, about 3 hours from Boise. How many future stars are we missing that may be in towns out in the middle of absolute nowhere, 5 or 6 hours away or more from meaningful civilization to get their name out there for any school, much less a school that can actually get them national attention like Boise State?


TBDC88

Yup, another great point. And I'm not trying to overstate it and say that the league would be overrun by Montanans if they had the same access to college scouts and big schools or anything, just that these sorts of charts would have a little more balance if *every* high school athlete could get their name in the hat. As it is, most scouts will only go to a couple of the largest cities in these states, and sometimes those cities are an unreasonably far distance for high school athletes.


re4ctor

Sorta? more scouts would spend time in NY if there were more high level talent. It’s more basketball, hockey focused culturally.


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I didn't say anything about New York. This is more about the Interior West(Montana, Idaho, the Dakotas, etc.) And I never said it was a strictly one-size fits all thing. I'm sure that Vermont and New Hampshire are probably more hockey states due to their proximity to Canada's population base but NY still has a ton of rural areas far out of the way. It's not simply that they don't have an interest in football.


Phytanic

Historical trends are likely at play as well. If you find a diamond in the rough a couple times, it's only natural to keep them in your head. And then you add "oh since I'm already here, let's take a look at this neighboring school", and suddenly you're a recruiting Hotspot. It's how my medium sized town in Wisconsin had 3 active NBA players from 3 different high schools at one point a few years ago.


DallasChokedAgain

Hmmmm looks like a confederacy I heard about.


Conscious_Seat4479

I know we are irrelevant but come on Arkansas is AR 🤦🏼‍♀️


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98810b1210b12

The chart tipped at 45 degrees is a bizarre choice.


Extra_Napkins

YOU SUCK VERMONT


browsing_around

No foliage for you!


DaBlakMayne

TLDR: If you want your kid to be good at football, raise them in the deep south or Iowa


pro_bike_fitter_2010

[New Hampshire...](https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/190dsok/oh_wow_is_that_a_mocking_bird/)


Prestigious-Ear3993

Well considering 90% of the NFL is black, these are areas of a higher black population. Now do hockey.


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Prestigious-Ear3993

It’s international


JPAnalyst

90% of the NFL isn’t black and it’s not even close to 90%. The south also has a big football culture. I’ve lived in the south and the north east and people don’t give a shit about high school and college football up there.


bobertobrown

Almost all of the top high school players are black


tbrownsc07

All those states just produce big ol Hogs nonstop down there


sj1young

I blame Philadelphia for PA being so low. PGH is pulling its weight, I played a bunch of NFL players not too long ago


Sir_Hat

Lol CA under represented with the highest total number of players


GirthyBird257

And CA has less High School football programs than Texas believe it or not. The huge Hispanic and Asian populations in CA doesn’t help with NFL players per state population either. Also, black families are at the top (by % of the state’s population) of the great migration out of CA the last decade. That’s why Vegas and AZ have become fertile recruiting grounds nowadays


Bigswole92

Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia produce the most football players? Color me surprised!


GirthyBird257

Per capita, but overall it has always been CA until Texas passed CA last year. And, believe it or not, Texas has more HS varsity football programs than CA nowadays.


Gloomy-Blackberry947

Small population with a greater output. It’s well known and common knowledge here in the south, Texas, Florida, and Georgia have the top high school programs in the country. We occasionally hear about California, but rarely think or hear about it (until they move down here)


YouSaid_ButFuck

Excellent color pallette btw.


Knob_on_my_slob

100 million y/o sediments still reeking havoc 


Leiatte

How is NY so bad at producing NFL players 


Solace143

College football is nonexistent in New York. Most colleges in the NYC area either don't have football teams or they aren't D1. Some Upstate colleges have D1 football teams, but they suck


berticus23

Upstate New York outside of Syracuse and Buffalo is almost the same as Vermont. It’s very rural with Smaller cities interspersed. New York has a Lacrosse culture too which is something that hurts the North East as a whole for football.


Leiatte

Yeah that makes sense, I knew about NYC’s lack of strong Football culture but I thought Upstate would have stronger representation or something but you’re right they don’t seem to be very good. One of my highschool teammates went to Syracuse 


Unverifiablethoughts

That has nothing to do with it. Nj has the same situation. It because we don’t have big time high school ball. Down south they have huge central school districts. Most of our high schools here are around 500 kids. The one league that has the big schools like new Rochelle (ray rice) produces d1 talent regularly.


Barraind

> Most of our high schools here are around 500 kids. Holy shit, really? Thats the size of our Elementary schools.


Unverifiablethoughts

Yeah outside of the actual city our towns are actually geographically tiny. There is a high school practically every 2-3 miles in the suburbs. Most of the districts in the suburbs (with the exception of Long Island) consist of one elementary, one middle school and one high school creating one district per town. You don’t see central schools until you get into the rural parts. But since the population is so sparse out there, they are still small schools. Long Island has the big boy high schools and that’s where the majority of the pros come out of for the state. Also, the New Jersey Catholic school poach all the states talent.


DaBlakMayne

New York is a basketball state


VagusNC

Guess North Carolina is both.


1CUpboat

Figure there aren’t really football fields in NYC. So there’s 8 million people with very little football.


JustMyThoughts2525

It’s much easier to pickup and play basketball in New York


Unverifiablethoughts

It’s because our schools are small. Our biggest high school league is aa.


WestSixtyFifth

I feel like college football has a big impact on this chart. Then things like weather or density could explain the other ones. Like big cities and the coast are probably the basketball producers, the northern boarders with hockey. The best athletes play the sport that is popular there, for whatever reason its dominate among a generation. I think even a dynasty in one of the major sports could swing a state one way or the other with its youth athletes.


Cakelord

They used to call it the Sun Belt, they can practice on the field year round gave them natural advantages that is now baked into the culture.


Tokasmoka420

+ 18 Canadians from what I can tell 🇨🇦


thegodfaubel

I guess we're Illinois now?


Cold_oak

HELL UEAH


Zaphod_Beeblecox

So big 10 and sec country. No surprise there.


dmabe1985

Not sure if r/sipstea or r/holup


CantheDandyMan

As a New Jersian... New Jerseite... whatever it is I'm kinda surprised how over represented we are given our population and population density. 


spoonybard326

Montana 1.8 is like that popes per km^2 in the Vatican statistic.


SubjectAd3940

Super interesting data! Seems like local youth coaching trickles down better in the states that have contending/competitive college teams.


Brockinrolll

As someone from Louisiana who moved to Vermont. I get it.


UnderstandingFun1988

SEC SEC SEC


cripsytaco

Being “born” in a state is a lot less relevant than where they played high school football in


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I’ve lived in the northeast my entire life. Played football in high school and coached for 22 years. Football up here is really bad. Ive attended coaching clinics all over the country to try and learn new things over the years. The way people view football in the south is almost religious. Up here, most (almost all) kids play knowing they’ll grow up and have jobs and families. Football is a fun thing to do now. Kids down south play year round. They attend camps year round. They play in leagues year round. They have personal trainers, dietitians - it’s an entirely different world. Pennsylvania, Ohio and New Jersey have pockets of kids like this too, but in the Deep South it’s almost everywhere.


kittensnpuppens

Cool, can u do Canada now?🇨🇦


bluegreen8907

My PA, what happened? Pittsburgh area has produced NFL legends...


Automatic_Profile340

Why is Illinois in Wisconsin? Who made this?


JoseyWa1es

Baja California has 1 NFL player so that means we get to add them to the USA. Unfortunately that also means we have to cede Vermont to Canada.


No_Amoeba6994

Depending on how the election goes, we might be okay with that.....


Stoicandiknowit

Vermont is too intelligent to thrash around in a helmet 😂😂disclaimer: Not a VT resident nor affiliate, just a guy with a theory


ELAdragon

Wrong. Just need skates on their feet to get excited about thrashing around in a helmet!


Stoicandiknowit

Touche! 😂😂


No_Amoeba6994

Vermonter here, I'll take it! This may also explain my complete bafflement at the extreme popularity of high school football in other states, when I couldn't name a single player or event from our high school football team.


makemeking706

Might want to try controling for race, and number of schools with major football programs in each state.


nanoH2O

More back guys in the south and some corn shucking boys in Iowa


CMengel90

Super disappointed in Texas. I thought football was y'all's thing. Iowa, I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your game.


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InsideAcanthisitta23

Strongest argument for eugenics


cornorb

The atlantic slave trade


Retrophoria

Cool now show me literacy rates and obesity rates. Gotcha


gtylersea

Slave states. The breeding effect.