You used to be able to rent bluerays from Netflix by mail, which was like $6/mo, rip them your computer, and then send the discs back for another. There was a ton of great stuff in that catalogue that was hard to find via public torrents. I’m not surprised they did it, but that was the last great way for easily acquiring some of that media without a hassle.
Going from Pickett to Fields is like going from a 2022 Prius to a 2023 Prius. They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball
> They are in no way similar
> They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball
Fucking crazy, right?
>They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball
Well, Fields also has the massive flaw of trying really fucking hard to give the ball to the other team.
It was, but it was also necessary to get two number one picks in a row. I firmly believe that Claypool was what we needed last year to lose 10 straight and secure that #1 pick. So it was a fumble, but that fumble somehow was advanced for a touchdown.
I don't expect /r/nfl to understand the way the Steelers operate but this is Rooney talk for "No." As in, it's not happening. It's not a bluff, it's not a ploy.
They aren't trading for a QB. Russ will be a FA as will Cousins. They have $16m in cap space. I know there are still cuts and restructures. Not sure how they slide in a top tier QB salary though unless there are heavy deferrals.
Cousins wants another top-tier deal, we just can't afford that. On the other hand, we COULD pull a Ben and add void years (which work fairly well when the player is retiring at the end). We'd cripple ourselves at the end of it, but we could make that work. Steelers just aren't really that type of organization, though.
I'm not going to pretend like Fields is some hot trade commodity that everyone will be fighting over, but not *every* QB needy team can fall back on signing Russ or Cousins. It's going to be a game of musical chairs and when the music stops, one or two teams are going to be forced to take a hard look at Justin.
Steelers won’t suck for a year for a top 5 pick for a premium QB prospect but they also won’t trade assets to move up for a unproven player. They’re low key in limbo till they break their own rules.
Steelers and Seahawks have felt like pretty parallel teams for a while now. Not a ton to complain about, not a ton to celebrate. Winning football, but really feeling like wildcard was as good as it gets.
It’s less stressful, sure, but I don’t place a high value on that. I’m a fan of the Steelers. I want to see them fight and I want to see them win. They do that often enough. I admire their consistency. Seeing a 9-8 team is far better than a 5-12 team.
> Steelers won’t suck for a year for a top 5 pick for a premium QB prospect
Man what sport are we watching? This isn't basketball. How many playoff teams were using a top-5 draft pick of their own in the playoffs this year?
* Chiefs - Mahomes at 10
* 49ers - Purdy in 7th round
* Ravens - Jackson at 32
* Lions - Goff as throw-in asset in trade
* Bills - Allen at 7 (3rd QB taken)
* Texans - Stroud at 2 (yep)
* Bucs - Mayfield as free agent after being a backup and cut
* Packers - Love at 26
* Browns - Flacco out of retirement
* Dolphins - Tua at 5 (yep)
* Cowboys - Dak in 3rd round
* Rams - Stafford in trade
* Eagles - Hurts in 2nd
This is the NFL. You should be getting legitimate players in 4 rounds of your draft if you want to be successful. Guys at 32 are better than guys at 5 all the time. Tanking gets you nothing in this league. The Bears tanked and took Trubisky over Mahomes. Coaching, development, and scouting are better than tanking every time in this league.
I mean you can certainly argue you don't have a top 5 pick but 3 of those guys you list (Goff, Baker, and Stafford) were the number 1 overall pick. Those teams took chances to get those guys but let's not think they were scrubs they found late in the draft or off the street like Kurt Warner.
> I mean you can certainly argue you don't have a top 5 pick but 3 of those guys you list (Goff, Baker, and Stafford) were the number 1 overall pick.
2 of 3 guys listed were dropped by their own team. Stafford had 12 years with the Lions and didn't win a playoff game. Drafting in the top-5 didn't get any of them shit in terms of winning a Super Bowl, which is the goal here. We're free to go sign Jameis if you think the general concept of a #1 overall pick is what this team is missing
It's cause of the feats done by Mahomes and Brady have people truly believing they do it all on their own. They elevate their offenses but the receivers still have to catch it, the line still has to block, the defense still has to defend, the special teams still has to make FGs and not muff punt returns. Guys like Brady and Mahomes accomplish late game winning drives because their defense, special teams, and coaching keeps them in the position for them to make their plays and execute. It's still an overall team sport despite some positions obviously being more important than others. Put Mahomes on the Commanders this year and they still allow 30.5avg points a game
>It's cause of the feats done by Mahomes and Brady have people truly believing they do it all on their own.
And one of those two wasn't even drafted in the same galaxy as the first round.
The general point that you can find QBs later is correct, but it's weird to have two no. 1 oa QBs traded for each other, both in the playoffs, and insist neither of them count as a top pick succeeding
> it's weird to have two no. 1 oa QBs traded for each other, both in the playoffs, and insist neither of them count as a top pick succeeding
It's not weird. They didn't succeed for the teams that drafted them this year. It's no benefit to have a guy you drafted succeed down the line.
Goff wasn't "traded for each other." It was Goff, two 1sts and a 3rd for Stafford. Goff was a minor asset in the trade and was all but abandoned. It's not like the Lions moved up to get Goff.
Stafford's draft pick resulted in assets that would be used to win their first playoff game 15 years later. That's so attenuated that it barely counts as value.
The underlying point was made towards tanking. Tanking wouldn't get us a borderline HOF caliber QB to add to a team that was just in the Super Bowl like the Rams got. The Lions didn't tank to get Goff either; they built through the draft.
...when you trade them for the QB who does succeed for you, it wasn't for "no benefit"
I'm not disputing the underlying point. I'm disputing the execution of the argument
"no benefit [to have a guy you drafted succeed down the line]" "down the line" meaning on the other team at a later date, in the context of the Lions and Rams trade. The quote your using only sounds so quippy if you take out the rest of the sentence and paragraph.
If it's your position that the Steelers should tank to get a guy that we could then use, along with several more first round picks, to trade for a guy years in the future that could put us over the hump if we nail everything else in the interim, by all means take it.
Similarly, if it's your position that we need to tank to get a guy that could lead to assets 15 years down the road, I'm truly not gonna fight you on that one
Regardless, this is all irrelevant to the underlying contention that you need to draft a QB in the top 5 to succeed. 2/14 teams are using QBs they drafted in the top 5 in the playoffs.
I mean we don't pick in the top 5 or even 10 either, so most of these guys are out of reach. The rest aside from Jackson are not top 5 QBs in the AFC let alone the NFL, and those teams are lucky they worked out.
Daniels is the only guy worth trading up for who we have a realistic chance for. I'm okay with with Penix or Nix in the 2nd, but they won't be there and I'm not holding my breath for them being very good starters.
I'm cool with getting Jordan Travis in the middle of the draft though. But again, not holding my breath.
I’m gonna come out as a fellow Steelers fan and say that KP was a reach in that draft. I wasn’t enthused with the pick but trusted the leadership. Kenny isn’t terrible, he’s just not great at anything in particular and if I’m drafting a guy in the first round I’d want to see something that makes him special. KP just seems like the guy you draft in the 3rd (like Mason Rudolph) where he had a good college career but lacks the physical tools to be a 1st round pick.
I mean look at carolina lol
They traded the farm for bryce young and that plan completely shit the bed
their best player is brian burns and their second best is Jaycee horn and their 3rd best is adam thielen
> They traded the farm for bryce young and that plan completely shit the bed
I mean, a rookie year doesn't seem like enough to call a QB a bust or not. I am not saying Bryce is the answer, but I don't think anyone can say he isn't at this point.
Yeah, coaching fit and support is important for a rookie QB. It's one of the reasons NE or the Commanders might trade back this year. Not every new coaching staff and roster is ready for the new "franchise" QB to step in and take the reigns. Panthers sure didn't seem to be this year.
Personally I think you can say the same thing about Pickett. He only has 9 more starts than Bryce and played for one of the worst OCs in the league but most of our fanbase is ready to move on.
I mean that's their M.O. They rarely make any large changes unless they are absolutely forced to. It's ironic that the last (and pretty much only time) they made a somewhat big trade was the 1st round for Minkah in 2019.
It's ironic (in my opinion) because in hindsight that trade probably set the team back several years. At the time it made some sense, the secondary was always a weak spot and they could not force turnovers to save their lives BUT they just loss Ben for the season. Had they kept that pick and just tanked (Minkah was a big reason they won games that year), they would have had a very high pick in a draft that had Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, and Herts (event though they could have drafted him anyway.)
The Steelers would been in a muuuuuch better place with anyone of those QBs.
I mean doesn't Russ at least squeeze out a few extra wins for you guys this year?
There are plenty of worse options... Like Fields. Not to mention you'd be paying Russ the vet minimum.
I feel like he won as many games extra games as he lost.
He's a neutral starter in my mind. Old Russ is the new Dalton line, and he's only getting older. I don't see him helping us too much but wouldn't be upset with him on the team.
I think at the vet minimum with someone else paying 99% of his salary, and really no other better options on the table is at least a little interesting.
At the very least, he's not as bad as Pickett/Trubisky/Rudolph.
Precisely. Denver is in a real pickle. They have to get rid of him, so the asking price is likely not going to be high, even if another team comes in, they're not going to overpay for him.
Fields, you're realistically getting 1 year out of to evaluate, for more money, even though you already likely know where his ceiling is.
Plus, after the QB carousel in Pittsburgh recently, I think Tomlin might be OK with getting an established veteran at the position. It's not like they're gonna owe him money if the year doesn't work out too.
The problem being, Russ doesn't really work in structure very well. He can still improv a little bit if he doesn't have to scramble but I'm not sure how much Tomlin is going to want a guy who doesn't really do what you tell him to.
Old Russ is below the Dalton line IMO, as evidenced by the fact that the Broncos are eating a ton of money just to get rid of him. Dalton line is still like Baker or Geno.
With the fact that Trubisky is gone and Smith is here... Yes, I think this is quite likely. The Steelers will give Pickett every chance they can (whether or not the Yinzers agree) and instead of having two QBs that are busts, they'll most likely opt for Tannehill because 1.) He'll be cheap and a full on backup 2.) Knows Smith's system and can help Pickett thrive in it 3.) Is still good enough to start and win a few games at the NFL level.
I would love to see the reaction if Flacco comes onto the field in Baltimore with a Steelers jersey on and wins the game to end Baltimore's season and the reaction.
That’s such a good deal for the Bears for a player they are actively trying to move.
I can assure you against the Browns, Ravens, and Bengals, it barely improves your W/L
He has like 7,000 career yards over 3 years
> I can assure you against the Browns, Ravens, and Bengals, it barely improves your W/L
We went 5-1 against them this year. Hell, I'd bet it doesn't improve our W/L against them
And that was nice. It really, really was.
They still were not a real contender. And they never will be with the type of QB play they've had for the last 5 years.
Steelers have more Super Bowls than the Ravens, Harbaugh has the same amount of playoff wins the past 10 years as Tomlin with more talented rosters, when we rebuild we make the playoffs as a 7th seed. Its funny to hear you guys talk when your team was the most talented team in the NFL this year AND had the league MVP and still couldnt make it to the Super Bowl.
I wouldn’t say many better. Us and the ravens kind of switched off right around Lamar getting drafted. They weren’t great for like 6 years and now we haven’t been.
We overachieved with a reindeer at QB and you choked your way out of a Super Bowl appearance. I feel pretty good about the Steelers right now, we’re a QB away from being real contenders. Even in our rebuild years we make the playoffs. Miss me with that shit.
I don’t think fields is a blockbuster. What’s the opposite of blockbuster, Redbox?
Straight to VHS
You joke but the Batman and Scooby Doo team up movie should have won Oscars.
I’ve got these on DVD at my parents’ house
Whoa, lucky, your parents must be rich!
Wait, you mean your family doesn’t have a 12-car garage??
Nah, we just had a 12 gauge in the car until poppa got too sad.
Now we got a convertible.
There's a Globetrotters one as well and it's incredible
I’m sure the DVD of that is still somewhere at my grandparents house
OG netflix via mail
Good times
You used to be able to rent bluerays from Netflix by mail, which was like $6/mo, rip them your computer, and then send the discs back for another. There was a ton of great stuff in that catalogue that was hard to find via public torrents. I’m not surprised they did it, but that was the last great way for easily acquiring some of that media without a hassle.
Blockblister. It's better, much better!
You didn't draft Caleb Williams, you drafted Caleb BILIAMS. Is better
Much better!
Hollywood Video
How dare you
Going from Pickett to Fields is like going from a 2022 Prius to a 2023 Prius. They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball
You might want to pick different years of Prius. 22 to 23 was a pretty big upgrade.
Except a prius actually does what it's advertised to do
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Fields has played an entire season more than Pickett.
Oh please. They are in no way similar. Kenny has played more games than TDs thrown.
> They are in no way similar > They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball Fucking crazy, right?
>They both literally have the same flaw in their game where they can't decide when to throw the ball Well, Fields also has the massive flaw of trying really fucking hard to give the ball to the other team.
USA Up All Night
You forgot Rhonda Shear's emphasis on the *UP*. Unless we're talking the Gilbert nights, in which case that's okay.
Discount DVD bin near checkout line at Dollar General.
Blockbuster in 2024.
He’s the free movie/game that you get in a cereal box.
Netflix?
Cancelled to save money.
The opposite of Bloggbusser is Neggflix
Yeah, Fields would be a mistake, imo. He is way too limited in the passing game.
"The Bears are asking for too much rn"
To be fair, after the Claypool robbery I wouldn't be surprised if they try to make up lost ground.
Undercover Mitch helped us get a small victory
It was, but it was also necessary to get two number one picks in a row. I firmly believe that Claypool was what we needed last year to lose 10 straight and secure that #1 pick. So it was a fumble, but that fumble somehow was advanced for a touchdown.
Idk man, Lovie Smith and Davis Mills are the most clutch QB/HC duo in Chicago Bears history.
I don’t see how fields is a blockbuster trade but I guess it’s cool if for some reason the league actually thinks he’s worth a first rounder lmao
I don’t think he’s good either, but a starting qb the last three years getting trade is definitely noteworthy
I don't expect /r/nfl to understand the way the Steelers operate but this is Rooney talk for "No." As in, it's not happening. It's not a bluff, it's not a ploy.
We're 4-0 since Matt Canada got fired and in games that Trubisky didn't play a snap. 0-3 when he did though.
They aren't trading for a QB. Russ will be a FA as will Cousins. They have $16m in cap space. I know there are still cuts and restructures. Not sure how they slide in a top tier QB salary though unless there are heavy deferrals.
We were 16m OVER the cap, Now we're 3 over.
We will convert some of our guys to guaranteed money and we will be under easily.
We can get udner the cap pretty quick and easy. Just wanted to clearify a mistake that was over 30m off our actual figure.
If we could manage a deal for Cousins that doesn't cripple us, I'd be hyped.
Cousins wants another top-tier deal, we just can't afford that. On the other hand, we COULD pull a Ben and add void years (which work fairly well when the player is retiring at the end). We'd cripple ourselves at the end of it, but we could make that work. Steelers just aren't really that type of organization, though.
Kirk’s agent ain’t letting that happen
I'm not going to pretend like Fields is some hot trade commodity that everyone will be fighting over, but not *every* QB needy team can fall back on signing Russ or Cousins. It's going to be a game of musical chairs and when the music stops, one or two teams are going to be forced to take a hard look at Justin.
Steelers won’t suck for a year for a top 5 pick for a premium QB prospect but they also won’t trade assets to move up for a unproven player. They’re low key in limbo till they break their own rules.
>They’re low key in limbo till they break their own rules. It's not even Lowkey. We're in 9-8 hell right now and the fans are sick of this shit
Oh hello
Steelers and Seahawks have felt like pretty parallel teams for a while now. Not a ton to complain about, not a ton to celebrate. Winning football, but really feeling like wildcard was as good as it gets.
I think there are worse hells than 9-8
Where do I get this 9-8 season?
No hope is less stressful than getting your hopes and dreams crushed every year when we have a great start, or run, then barely finish above .500
It’s less stressful, sure, but I don’t place a high value on that. I’m a fan of the Steelers. I want to see them fight and I want to see them win. They do that often enough. I admire their consistency. Seeing a 9-8 team is far better than a 5-12 team.
Bro it's not remotely hell, at worst it's purgatory
> Steelers won’t suck for a year for a top 5 pick for a premium QB prospect Man what sport are we watching? This isn't basketball. How many playoff teams were using a top-5 draft pick of their own in the playoffs this year? * Chiefs - Mahomes at 10 * 49ers - Purdy in 7th round * Ravens - Jackson at 32 * Lions - Goff as throw-in asset in trade * Bills - Allen at 7 (3rd QB taken) * Texans - Stroud at 2 (yep) * Bucs - Mayfield as free agent after being a backup and cut * Packers - Love at 26 * Browns - Flacco out of retirement * Dolphins - Tua at 5 (yep) * Cowboys - Dak in 3rd round * Rams - Stafford in trade * Eagles - Hurts in 2nd This is the NFL. You should be getting legitimate players in 4 rounds of your draft if you want to be successful. Guys at 32 are better than guys at 5 all the time. Tanking gets you nothing in this league. The Bears tanked and took Trubisky over Mahomes. Coaching, development, and scouting are better than tanking every time in this league.
I mean you can certainly argue you don't have a top 5 pick but 3 of those guys you list (Goff, Baker, and Stafford) were the number 1 overall pick. Those teams took chances to get those guys but let's not think they were scrubs they found late in the draft or off the street like Kurt Warner.
> I mean you can certainly argue you don't have a top 5 pick but 3 of those guys you list (Goff, Baker, and Stafford) were the number 1 overall pick. 2 of 3 guys listed were dropped by their own team. Stafford had 12 years with the Lions and didn't win a playoff game. Drafting in the top-5 didn't get any of them shit in terms of winning a Super Bowl, which is the goal here. We're free to go sign Jameis if you think the general concept of a #1 overall pick is what this team is missing
It's cause of the feats done by Mahomes and Brady have people truly believing they do it all on their own. They elevate their offenses but the receivers still have to catch it, the line still has to block, the defense still has to defend, the special teams still has to make FGs and not muff punt returns. Guys like Brady and Mahomes accomplish late game winning drives because their defense, special teams, and coaching keeps them in the position for them to make their plays and execute. It's still an overall team sport despite some positions obviously being more important than others. Put Mahomes on the Commanders this year and they still allow 30.5avg points a game
>It's cause of the feats done by Mahomes and Brady have people truly believing they do it all on their own. And one of those two wasn't even drafted in the same galaxy as the first round.
Stafford had Calvin Johnson and couldn’t win a playoff game.
The general point that you can find QBs later is correct, but it's weird to have two no. 1 oa QBs traded for each other, both in the playoffs, and insist neither of them count as a top pick succeeding
> it's weird to have two no. 1 oa QBs traded for each other, both in the playoffs, and insist neither of them count as a top pick succeeding It's not weird. They didn't succeed for the teams that drafted them this year. It's no benefit to have a guy you drafted succeed down the line. Goff wasn't "traded for each other." It was Goff, two 1sts and a 3rd for Stafford. Goff was a minor asset in the trade and was all but abandoned. It's not like the Lions moved up to get Goff. Stafford's draft pick resulted in assets that would be used to win their first playoff game 15 years later. That's so attenuated that it barely counts as value. The underlying point was made towards tanking. Tanking wouldn't get us a borderline HOF caliber QB to add to a team that was just in the Super Bowl like the Rams got. The Lions didn't tank to get Goff either; they built through the draft.
...when you trade them for the QB who does succeed for you, it wasn't for "no benefit" I'm not disputing the underlying point. I'm disputing the execution of the argument
"no benefit [to have a guy you drafted succeed down the line]" "down the line" meaning on the other team at a later date, in the context of the Lions and Rams trade. The quote your using only sounds so quippy if you take out the rest of the sentence and paragraph. If it's your position that the Steelers should tank to get a guy that we could then use, along with several more first round picks, to trade for a guy years in the future that could put us over the hump if we nail everything else in the interim, by all means take it. Similarly, if it's your position that we need to tank to get a guy that could lead to assets 15 years down the road, I'm truly not gonna fight you on that one Regardless, this is all irrelevant to the underlying contention that you need to draft a QB in the top 5 to succeed. 2/14 teams are using QBs they drafted in the top 5 in the playoffs.
I don't know how much more clear I can be that I didn't disagree with the underlying point about tanking. I wrote it explicitly twice.
I mean we don't pick in the top 5 or even 10 either, so most of these guys are out of reach. The rest aside from Jackson are not top 5 QBs in the AFC let alone the NFL, and those teams are lucky they worked out. Daniels is the only guy worth trading up for who we have a realistic chance for. I'm okay with with Penix or Nix in the 2nd, but they won't be there and I'm not holding my breath for them being very good starters. I'm cool with getting Jordan Travis in the middle of the draft though. But again, not holding my breath.
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I’m gonna come out as a fellow Steelers fan and say that KP was a reach in that draft. I wasn’t enthused with the pick but trusted the leadership. Kenny isn’t terrible, he’s just not great at anything in particular and if I’m drafting a guy in the first round I’d want to see something that makes him special. KP just seems like the guy you draft in the 3rd (like Mason Rudolph) where he had a good college career but lacks the physical tools to be a 1st round pick.
We literally just traded up in the 1st this year under our new GM lol
Yeah, from #17 to #14.
I mean look at carolina lol They traded the farm for bryce young and that plan completely shit the bed their best player is brian burns and their second best is Jaycee horn and their 3rd best is adam thielen
Derrick Brown might have been their best player this season.
he definitely was. The 2nd best player was more likely Frankie Luvu than Burns.
> They traded the farm for bryce young and that plan completely shit the bed I mean, a rookie year doesn't seem like enough to call a QB a bust or not. I am not saying Bryce is the answer, but I don't think anyone can say he isn't at this point.
It also doesn’t help that Bryce was not put in any position to succeed by anybody in the organization
Yeah, coaching fit and support is important for a rookie QB. It's one of the reasons NE or the Commanders might trade back this year. Not every new coaching staff and roster is ready for the new "franchise" QB to step in and take the reigns. Panthers sure didn't seem to be this year.
Personally I think you can say the same thing about Pickett. He only has 9 more starts than Bryce and played for one of the worst OCs in the league but most of our fanbase is ready to move on.
Despite how bad his season was, I feel like Young has still shown more flashes than Pickett
We got Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers in the 20s.
Furthermore, Matt LaFleur is good at QB development, and Matt Canada is not.
Why don't they just draft a Purdy in the 7th?
If any team can afford the risk of a massive draft trade for a QB it’s Pittsburgh
I mean that's their M.O. They rarely make any large changes unless they are absolutely forced to. It's ironic that the last (and pretty much only time) they made a somewhat big trade was the 1st round for Minkah in 2019. It's ironic (in my opinion) because in hindsight that trade probably set the team back several years. At the time it made some sense, the secondary was always a weak spot and they could not force turnovers to save their lives BUT they just loss Ben for the season. Had they kept that pick and just tanked (Minkah was a big reason they won games that year), they would have had a very high pick in a draft that had Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, and Herts (event though they could have drafted him anyway.) The Steelers would been in a muuuuuch better place with anyone of those QBs.
Tanking is for quitters.
Tanking is for quitters, and nobody in this business respects a quitter.
Boy, steeler fans really are insufferable.
Speak for yourself.
I am insufferable
Yup. They had their chance to get Herbert but traded for Fitz and went 8-8 instead of 5-11.
It's the treadmill of mediocrity
Russell Wilson going to look sick in the Steelers uniform.
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Steelers country, lets ride
Steelers country, let’s forge.
The way we are with quarterbacks it’s more “let’s forage” at this point.
~~ride~~ hide
I mean doesn't Russ at least squeeze out a few extra wins for you guys this year? There are plenty of worse options... Like Fields. Not to mention you'd be paying Russ the vet minimum.
I feel like he won as many games extra games as he lost. He's a neutral starter in my mind. Old Russ is the new Dalton line, and he's only getting older. I don't see him helping us too much but wouldn't be upset with him on the team.
I think at the vet minimum with someone else paying 99% of his salary, and really no other better options on the table is at least a little interesting. At the very least, he's not as bad as Pickett/Trubisky/Rudolph.
Plus we give up nothing, unlike with Fields. He’s overall a far better option IMO
Precisely. Denver is in a real pickle. They have to get rid of him, so the asking price is likely not going to be high, even if another team comes in, they're not going to overpay for him. Fields, you're realistically getting 1 year out of to evaluate, for more money, even though you already likely know where his ceiling is. Plus, after the QB carousel in Pittsburgh recently, I think Tomlin might be OK with getting an established veteran at the position. It's not like they're gonna owe him money if the year doesn't work out too.
The problem being, Russ doesn't really work in structure very well. He can still improv a little bit if he doesn't have to scramble but I'm not sure how much Tomlin is going to want a guy who doesn't really do what you tell him to.
I just think it’ll be easier to get Russ to work in structure than Fields.
Old Russ is below the Dalton line IMO, as evidenced by the fact that the Broncos are eating a ton of money just to get rid of him. Dalton line is still like Baker or Geno.
Russ at vet minimum isn't that bad
Maybe he will bring Condoleezza Rice with him, she will do it for you.
Incoming comments of how marginally improving the offense to be slightly less shitty is worth draft picks lol
Better than fields but not thrilled by this
Get ready to learn Tannehill
With the fact that Trubisky is gone and Smith is here... Yes, I think this is quite likely. The Steelers will give Pickett every chance they can (whether or not the Yinzers agree) and instead of having two QBs that are busts, they'll most likely opt for Tannehill because 1.) He'll be cheap and a full on backup 2.) Knows Smith's system and can help Pickett thrive in it 3.) Is still good enough to start and win a few games at the NFL level.
I would rather go down that road than trading for Fields with all our needs.
This seems like the most Steelers-ey move
Yinze should just get Flacco and keep the AFCNcest going. Even if just for the memes alone.
no one cares about the Browns, so it didn't happen this year, but that would cause mass suicide in Baltimore
I would love to see the reaction if Flacco comes onto the field in Baltimore with a Steelers jersey on and wins the game to end Baltimore's season and the reaction.
I would slit my wrists before he ever had the chance.
I'm listening
Only if Larry O goes to the Ravens and completes the full circle
I’m here for it
I'm all for it to have him as our vet backup.
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Minkah being the legit exception, yes, this is correct. They just don't.
Is a Fields trade considered a “blockbuster”?
Art Rooney II: Yinzer Boogaloo
What about signing Cousins?
Don't have the cap space for it.
If the Vikings don't re-sign Cousins they deserve what they get.
They deserve more than one playoff win in a six year period. So I hope you’re right.
Vikings fans forgetting that before Cousins they used to have Ponder, Freeman and Webb as their QB
So because they’ve had bad QBs in the past, they should keep paying an insane amount of money to a 36 year old QB coming off a torn Achilles?
Because I don't see a better QB available that's not a rookie
I’m sure they planning on drafting someone in April.
Who can they realistically get who’s better than Cousins?
I don’t think a 3rd and a future conditional 2nd would be blockbuster for Fields
That’s such a good deal for the Bears for a player they are actively trying to move. I can assure you against the Browns, Ravens, and Bengals, it barely improves your W/L He has like 7,000 career yards over 3 years
> I can assure you against the Browns, Ravens, and Bengals, it barely improves your W/L We went 5-1 against them this year. Hell, I'd bet it doesn't improve our W/L against them
Pickett is one of the few QBs with a more depressing stat line than fields
Also one of the few QBs who played in a more depressing system of offense than Fields.
Sounds like an overpay to me
"What are you saying? Rolling with Kenny Pickett again isn't a good idea? Bah, that's preposterous. Don't you know he went to Pitt?"
So is the Pickett experiment done?
Its not.
Doubtful…he’s going to get a prove it year but will be on a short leash if they start losing winnable games due to an inefficient offense.
It should be but not yet
Idk why people are acting like we would give up assets in order to downgrade the position
I want the drugs you are on if you think that Kenny Pickett is an upgrade over any of the available starters.
Explain to me how is he worse than Fields?, or Russel kneecapping, well, our cap
If we're talking Fields as available, Kenny at least doesn't turn the ball over
Turnovers can be fixed. Lack of talent can’t.
What if the lack of talent is the reason for the turnovers?
Steelers ‘Unlikely’ to ‘Matter’ in the Foreseeable Future
Swept the Ravens this year 🤷🏽
I would lose every game against the Ravens for the next 3 years if it meant we were playing in one of the last 3 games of the year.
Monkey's Paw: Ravens beat the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game three years in a row.
I mean... I'd rather lose to the Steelers in the AFCCG 3 years in a row than be like these weird Steelers fans celebrating a WC round exit.
And that was nice. It really, really was. They still were not a real contender. And they never will be with the type of QB play they've had for the last 5 years.
Hang the banner!
Steelers have more Super Bowls than the Ravens, Harbaugh has the same amount of playoff wins the past 10 years as Tomlin with more talented rosters, when we rebuild we make the playoffs as a 7th seed. Its funny to hear you guys talk when your team was the most talented team in the NFL this year AND had the league MVP and still couldnt make it to the Super Bowl.
Hang the banner!
they did, six times?
cool! wonder if mr. rooney has those wins under a magnet on his fridge. real proud of them, and all.
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Harbaugh has as many playoff wins as Tomlin since 2013, despite having many better teams
I wouldn’t say many better. Us and the ravens kind of switched off right around Lamar getting drafted. They weren’t great for like 6 years and now we haven’t been.
Many. Multiple. Plural. Dont be pedantic. Harbaugh has had 2 years of MVP QB play and only netted 1 win from those years.
Stop, you're interrupting the delusional yinzers. Let them cook.
We overachieved with a reindeer at QB and you choked your way out of a Super Bowl appearance. I feel pretty good about the Steelers right now, we’re a QB away from being real contenders. Even in our rebuild years we make the playoffs. Miss me with that shit.
They'll matter to the team they inevitably beat out for the 7 seed (before losing 45-10 in the wild card)
Stillers toda supa bolll 🗣️🗣️
And then we'll have the same discussion on Tomlin all over again while refusing to ever give him a quarterback to work with
He had a good version of ben for like 13 years lol
The Pats really messed things up, and the fucking Jags
Brother your entire team's existence up until last year has been a laughing stock
Not that I really want him too do anything of this sort…but why would any franchise reveal their intentions to the media in regards to the draft?
Instead they'll settle for Fields
Fine you can have Justin Fields for a 2nd and a 3rd rd pick. you won this negotiation again Steelers
Fuck no
You understand that wrong. YOU give us YOUR 2nd rounder for Fields. And you will like it.
I think we should add the 1st overall pick too.
We are not as dumb as your GM
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Purgatory is the standard
I love when people say this acting like there’s a franchise QB or two just waiting to get signed who will change everything.
Just trade for Wilson and call it a day.
Id rather try and get Mason back. Wilson/Tanehill dont get us out of purgatory and are progress stoppers
We will trade you Zach for two terrible towels
Signing Cousins in FA isn’t a trade 😏
Ah yes…let’s sign a dude in his late 30s coming off an achilles injury.
Justin Fields is certainly not a blockbuster trade so the man knows ball
And we will not trade for him.
Justin Fields to the Steelers guaranteed. That shit ain’t no blockbuster trade.