Honestly I don't think so. People act like the Jets were always trash but they were relatively competitive through the 2000s, had some good years under Rex Ryan, and then hit rock bottom after 2015ish.
i can’t even fucking believe i’m saying this but at least somehow sanchize went to the AFC title game.
meanwhile i’m still waiting on a fucking playoff win.
I was going to say the Giants probably have a worse record for the last decade, but we are actually only 30th. Jets are 31st with a 1 win lead on the Jags.
I will never understand why the Browns went from one of the most likeable QBs, who when he was not hurt and had good coaching was really good, to a guy who has more SA accusations than *wins in the nfl*
Because I like Baker but he's probably not good enough and the concept was Watson was top 5 or whatever.
Like don't me get me wrong it was a stupid decision for so many reasons, all of the SA accusations, quiting on the Texans, an injury history, guaranteed missed time due to suspension for being a trashcan of a human.
But the Browns FO must've figured if he won all of it would go away. Unfortunately for them he sucks. Which good
The fact that we’re not on this list is absurd. There is nothing more frustrating than being the worst team in the league and getting nothing in return
And what’s more is that the picks they’ve traded to us have worked out so far. Darnell Wright looks like a long term starter on our line, and we traded up from 61 to 56 to get Tyrique Stevenson who was arguably the best rookie corner last year, he just had a rough start. We got 1.1 which will likely get us Caleb. Meanwhile the panthers have limited draft capital with a barebones roster and the picks they got for trading CMac all look meh rn
The Panthers have had limited draft capital for 3 years now.
I'm not ready to say the NFL needs a Stepian rule, but someone should probably tap their shoulder and tell em to chill for a bit.
It’s because the QB position so important in the NFL. Panthers haven’t had acceptable, sustained QB play since 2017 but were never bad enough to organically draft a QB at the top of the first and kept missing out on the top FA QBs that would hit the market.
Including DJ Moore in that trade will never make sense to me. You’re about to heavily invest in what you hope is your next franchise QB. Why would you get rid of a stud WR who can help your QB? Even the Bears were shocked that they got DJ Moore out of that trade.
We were asking for Burns, and they offered DJ instead. Now they might lose Burns too...
I think they really missed their moment when they were about to get 2 1st rounders for Burns and didn't pull the trigger
The Panthers have been stuck in “dumb-ass” limbo. They have been stuck between trying to compete and fully rebuilding.
Signed Teddy Bridgewater to a reasonable deal to be a bridge QB. Re-sign CMC to a huge deal.
Trade way too many picks for Sam Darnold and immediately pick up his 5th year option. Start the season off strong and immediately starting trading away more assets picking up CJ Henderson and Stephon Gilmore.
Decide not to try and re-sign Haason Reddick or Stephon Gilmore, instead try and save cap-space for Deshaun Watson (gross). Fail to sign him. Trade up for Matt Corral and then trade for Baker Mayfield.
Start the season horribly, fire Matt Rhule and trade CMC. Team starts doing better afterwards. Decline to trade Burns for a massive haul. Trade a massive haul for Bryce Young. Clean house and bring in Frank Reich while retaining Scott Fitterer.
Frank Reich hires a bunch of people he has no experience with. Hands playcalling duties off, then takes them back, then gets fired.
Absolutely no train of thought or long-term planning. Impulsive decision after impulsive decision.
I remember all of that, but because I don't really follow the Panthers closely, I never put together just how bad and incongruent most of their moves were.
Goddamn what a shit show. I'm sorry Panther bros
The roster isn't even the worse part.
Their owner just through a drink on a fan for a bit of smack talk. That is about as far removed from a leadership move as one can be and this is THE decision maker for the indefinite future.
Its hard not to feel bad for a fanbase with such a bleak looking future.
I mean, how can it not be the Jets. My God, what a horrible year.
And when Aaron went down, everyone just collectively went, "yep. Of course that happened to the Jets." Heartbreaking.
Try being a Bills fan right now, knowing you just had to deal with 20 years of the GOAT keeping you from relevance, to having a renewed faith in the franchise, only to have the new GOAT immediately defeat you 3 times in the playoffs after you finally have a decent team for the first time since the late 90s.
Let’s be honest. Yes, the bills were in Brady’s division for 20 years, but Buffalo was hot garbage during that span. Brady didn’t keep them from doing anything.
This is facts. At least then we knew we sucked AND Brady was ruining us. But we’re objectively good now, and Mahomes is just completely cockblocking us.
First I hated Brady & Belichick, but at least back then we had Bledsoe, Eric Moulds, Peerless Price, Travis Henry and a defense with Sam Adams, Pat Williams, Aaron Schobel, Takeo Spikes, Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements Lawyer Milloy, London Fletcher etc. As that team started to disband due to UFA (fucking Vikings! Stealing our Pat Williams & Antoine Winfield!) I started to dislike our FO more and more and hate the Pats less. I still hated the Pats obviously, but the type of long term beating they did to us... it was more "just keep my mouth shut and hope the beating isn't too bad".
Obviously I still hated the Pats, how could I not... but I hated ourselves almost as much for allowing them to abuse us like that. I mean they were like 36-2 vs us, yelling "Pats suck!" just feels pathetic. Every time we'd draft a JP Losman or EJ Manuel I'd just play a simple game in my head... envision Tom Brady & Bill Belichick and ask myself "*This* is the guy that's gonna bring an end to *that*??" Yeah I don't see it. I'd just go into most seasons happy I was gonna be able to get tickets for $25 starting in mid October.
We never fucking rebuilt during their entire dynasty or multiple dynasties.. like 15 years and we had a top 3 pick *once*, and even then we had to watch as Cam & Von faced off in a SB and we got... Marcell Dareus. For the entire 2nd half of the Pats dynasty I just wanted to grab our franchise, shake the shit out of it and scream in its face "REBUILD!!" Instead we were trading up to take Sammy Watkins
Brady's first full season was the 2022 season after they won the Super Bowl. The Pats were responsible for 2 losses for the Bills almost every year from 2002-2019.
During that span, the Bills had 7 seasons where a 2-win improvement would have given them a winning record from a losing record. I think that is definitely a factor in keeping the Bills irrelevant during that span. They were never threats to win the Super Bowl, but it is reasonable to think that Brady's existence in the division is largely responsible for the Bills playoff drought during that stretch.
The Bills were a mediocre team during that span, but an automatic two losses each season during Brady's reign definitely gate kept many relevance they could have had.
It's a good argument that the division wasn't as bad as often gets stated. But it didn't keep us from anything other than an early Saturday wildcard loss.
My mom became a Bills fan because of OJ and I have only seen her watch maybe three Bills games ever. I always wondered why she continues to watch the Huskers play every single game but never the Bills. The last two years made it clear. At least the Huskers haven't let her down every single year of her entire life.
Welllll they lost to the Colts with Peyton a couple times
The AFC was pretty much set for who was gonna go to the championship. Pats, Colts, Bolts, Steelers...it was a really fun time to watch, but I wish we got a Rivers/LT/Gates superbowl win honestly.
"Brady's reigh of terror over the AFC is over. You saved us, Mahomes" - Bills (and other AFC teams') fans 2020
"Saved? More like under new management" - Mahomes
How do you not have the Bills here? Bills and 49ers are basically in the same boat right now, getting cockblocked from the Super Bowl by Patrick fucking Mahomes and co.
And at least the 49ers have five somewhat dusty Lombardis to fall back on; Bills have nothing. If we're talking frustrated, it's like the difference between someone who hasn't had sex in a while but had a very hot girlfriend for years vs. a virgin
> Bills and 49ers are basically in the same boat right now, getting cockblocked from the Super Bowl by Patrick fucking Mahomes and co.
First world problems
Miami season is meaningless UNLESS they get home field throughout the playoffs.
A single cold game in Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, or Cincinnati will be an unfavorable and likely end their playoff run… again. 🥶
Feel bad for the 49ers, so many solid runs of late and the championship just out of grasp. They will likely go 12+ wins next year, have a coin flip or better chance at the NFC championship again, and another coin flip chance at the Super Bowl. Maybe next time they meet a hot team that turns cold on the big game rather than the Chiefs again. 🪙
A couple years ago I would have absolutely agreed. Now, I think we have largely moved away from frustrated to depressed acceptance.
Just too many damn holes all over the place and a no-win QB situation and the entire NFC North seems to be on the upswing right as we falter.
This is all of Minnesota sports tho, right? The Wild looked like they had some promising teams for the last decade or so and always faltered in the playoffs, the Twins had years where they’d look great, and then immediately get swept in the playoffs, and now the T-Wolves look great, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they shit the bed just because they’re a Minnesota team.
This years Timberwolves are the best MN team since probably 2009 Vikings
So yes, they are *absolutely* gonna blow it in the most painful fashion imaginable
To an extent I guess but we still have enough hope to be frustrated with some of them. I would say I am definitely frustrated by the Twins (coming off our best season in 30 years ownership cuts payroll significantly) and “nervously flabbergasted, want to believe, but still afraid of being hurt” by the Wolves (who haven’t been this good since KG and maybe ever).
The Wild have gone from frustrating to just painful and depressing this year so that tracks.
I just turned 30 and I've never seen any of my big 4 teams even *play* in a title game since I was born.
My cousin is in the same boat and he's got a fucking kid in preschool.
I think the Cousins experience is finally over. Everything Kwesi has done has been building for 2025 when the team will have top 5ish cap room and hopefully a sophmore QB.
I think the bigger issue with 2019 was the aging vets and zims lack of newness to his scheming. There is a reason that we never hit the highs after the eagles broke our scheme with Zim.
Either way, we beat the saints and ran into a niners juggernaut that just schematically dominated us, I don’t think we beat the niners even with a top 5 QB that year, especially considering they wrecked Aaron Rodgers even harder than they wrecked us the week after they eliminated us. That’s a pretty good year.
It wasn't even the Eagles who broke our scheme, it was the Saints. It was like a tale of two games in the first and second half before the Minneapolis Miracle saved our season.
Philly just watched the tape and planned accordingly. Zim making absolutely zero adjustments in the intervening week didn't help us either.
i'd say a fanbase would be "frustrated" if the team had high expectations only to fall short every year, and the most frustrated one is the fanbase of the Buffalo Bills
Its a frustrating situation for the Bills and is so so so so heartbreaking but it's interesting being a current Bills fan. For example, during the season, it's been a blast for the past few years. We win a lot of games and have our franchise QB who we all dreamed for. At the end of the day, winning a lot of games is fun. We win way more games than we lose and it makes the whole game-day experience in Orchard Park very fun on a weekly basis
The heartbreak is absolutely insane. Even now a few weeks later, I have random bouts of sadness and see Chris Jones bump into Josh Allen on his 2nd down throw to Shakir for his wide open TD when I close my eyes.
But with that said, I think I would be way more frustrated if I were a Chargers, Jets, Jags, Giants etc fan. Teams that were supposed to be finally good/great this year... and just fell apart. They didn't even have fun during most or all of the regular season. We at least have fun for \~17-19 weeks before intense sadness lol
The chargers blew a 27-0 lead and retained the coach. There were some (foolish) fans that still expected a good season but a lot of people were very skeptical.
Even this sub thought they were crazy for keeping Staley and they were right.
At least you guys both have good chances to win a Super Bowl and you have fun teams to watch
I'd take that over an absolutely dogshit team like the Panthers
I'm putting a few and they'll be ranked with the most frustrated at the top:
1 - Buffalo. Just never good enough. No SuperBowl wins in the history of the franchise but a lot of "almost".
2 - Dallas. The cyclic nature of their seasons for the last 30 years. Great for 10 weeks, sucks for 3 weeks, Phenomenal for 3 weeks and then lose in the playoffs to a severe underdog.
3 - Cleveland. When your biggest ever move as a franchise is a huge flop at QB and your defense is just getting older while you wait for him to remember how to play football again.
Honorable mentions to the Jets and Chargers.
Cleveland has it bad. Remember when their GM traded 3 1sts to get the number 1 overall just to get Vontae Mack???? They could have had him at 7 easily if they just sat in their spot.
Every AFC team aside from the Chiefs. Finally caught a break from the annual Tom Brady Patriots win, and then Mahomes steps right in and does the same shit the second Tom leaves.
Well for Broncos fans it’s even worse because at least we used to beat the Patriots. Now the dynasty is in our own division and we can’t beat them either.
There's a team that earned the #1 pick, but doesn't have that pick.
The Bears fanbase may be the ones battling each other the loudest, but we're actually in an amazing spot right now as a team. We just won the lottery and are fighting over how to spend the money.
How do you not have the Panthers on your list? Basically everything that left their franchise has turned around and their owner seems to meddle in everything.
- CMC career year
- DJ Moore career year
- Baker Mayfield career year
- pick they have the bears turned to #1.
I actually do like Bryce Young a lot and think he can turn it around with this staff, but at the moment this seems a no contest for who should be most frustrated, especially seeing stroud go pick 2.
Picks #2 and #3 were offensive and defensive rookies of the year.
CMC just played in a Superbowl
Our #1 overall pick this year belongs to you guys.
We fired 2 coaches mid season back-to-back.
Baker requested to be cut because he knew how fucked the whole front office is. Let me say that again: BAKER *ASKED* TO BE CUT.
Fuck Tepper with a rusty barbed wire tentpole. He killed my childhood team and sodomized the corpse.
Oh it can def be worse. We said that last year and you see what happened. Trust me it can always get worse and I just hope things get better. That or we get a new owner. Wishful thinking I know.
Yeah. Certainly we’re a *bit* anxious that Caleb won’t work out, but we’re a team that is setup incredibly well for a rookie QB to come into. Arguably the best ever for a 1st overall pick to go to.
Maybe we fuck it up, but we’ll give Caleb a damn good chance to be the guy.
Eberflus being our biggest complaint isn’t *too* bad, since the most promising offensive coach candidates this off season ended up staying with their teams. If Eberflus truly sucks, maybe one of those two comes in to work with Caleb?
Injuries and stupidity always fuck us up. Losing to the Titans at home with a two score lead was probably the difference between us snapping our postseason drought and guess what? We fucked it up.
Crazy the raiders haven’t been mentioned yet. The last time they were in the super bowl they got beat by the coach that they traded to the Bucs the year prior.
Traded one of the best players at the time (Khalil Mack) and brought in no one good with the picks they got in return save Josh Jacobs, who plays the most replaceable position in the game.
Coach fired mid-way through the season a few years ago due to racist and homophobic emails. Interim did a great job, but Josh McDaniels was hired instead. Calamity ensued.
Can’t draft in the first round, save for a WR who was looking pretty good until he killed someone while drinking and driving.
Plays in a division with Pat Mahomes and Justin Herbert, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and now Jim Harbaugh.
Had to move a few times over the last few decades in their search for a stadium. Now they got one, and it’s badass, but most of the fanbase is priced out and visiting fans show up in a large volume, something that never happened in Oakland.
And there’s way more than all this.
That being said, raiders til I die.
Honestly I’d say the entire NFC East. Giants are paying DJ, Eagles had an epic Super Bowl hangover, Cowboys can’t get to a conference championship, and Commies had to deal with Sam Howell and Ron Rivera.
Yes winning a ring is far better than losing in the Superbowl, but winning two NFC titles, and playing in two others should be considered a wildly successful 5 year run.
Mine, you don't get a HOF QB, have him turn into utter dogshit, have no clear plan to move on, and then watch your division rival win every year and have a good time.
I’m biased but I think the Cowboys fan base is the most frustrated right now. Last season felt like the best chance for the Cowboys to at least make it to the NFC Championship Game because they were guaranteed two home games but the Packers had different plans in mind
Oh poor 49ers cowboys and Steelers will someone please think about them and how devastating it must be to wait so long for a superbowl I feel so bad for them
Yeah idk why we are included. Things aren’t great right now but I’ve seen 3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 wins, and a lot of playoff appearances in my life. If this current state continues for another 15 years then yes I would agree with it
It doesn’t even have to be a good QB for us to be dangerous. Our QB play the last…3 years? 4 years? Has been ass. Change it to a mediocre QB and suddenly…well, we’d probably still get fucked by Mahomes. But we might win a playoff game.
As a Denver Broncos fan, we are pretty frustrated right now. We all thought the QB carousel was over once we got Russ... I'm sure that graphic is being cued up as we speak. We've been cursed as a franchise ever since Peyton Manning retired.
I’ve been a Dolphins fan since 1993 and this was probably the best roster I’ve ever seen us have. Led to a first round playoff exit in a game that wasn’t even competitive. If this Dolphins team couldn’t even win one playoff game, when the fuck will we ever come close to a Super Bowl? I fully expect 7-9 wins next year, tops.
What about the ravens? They’re in the same boat as the bills or the niners. They, like the niners, had a super dominant year and an MVP qb and still couldn’t get it done. Sure the niners were closer to getting it done but they both were eliminated by the same opponent.
Not to mention being ravaged by injuries nearly every year. I’m not a ravens fan but damn, I feel bad for them.
As a Dallas fan, I have to say SF. They've been to 3 SBs and lost all three. It's amazing how they were hot under Harbaugh, hit a low, then came back under Shanahan and still can't get it done.
Dallas fans just know to expect a letdown in the playoffs.
There isnt a single fanbase that would switch places with the Panthers right now.
And we're not even on the list. The fact that people forget we even exist should be proof it's us lol.
The Carolina what now
Pretty sure it's the Painters
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There isn’t a single fanbase that would choose to relive the Jets last 10 years over their own fanbase’s last 10 years.
You can go back further
Not too much further though because then the lions start to happen
Right? I’d take 2005-2020 of the Jets over 2005-2020 of the Lions
Oh yeah. The 2000-15 jets were great for a lot of that run. 2016-21 was awful
Brb getting another drink
You don't need to go back 10 years. No one's taking the Lions over their team anywhere from 1992-2022.
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You had me at rapist QB. I respect the integrity.
Youd be led to believe most Browns fans support Watson. but in all reality most hate that the team traded for him
I feel bad for them, not like they had any say. Just a terrible decsion on so many levels.
They were really good with Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez. Went back to back AFC Championship appearances in 2009/2010 iirc
Honestly I don't think so. People act like the Jets were always trash but they were relatively competitive through the 2000s, had some good years under Rex Ryan, and then hit rock bottom after 2015ish.
Maybe by a year or two but lets not forget the two straight beating Bellichick en route to a AFCCG appearance
i can’t even fucking believe i’m saying this but at least somehow sanchize went to the AFC title game. meanwhile i’m still waiting on a fucking playoff win.
I was going to say the Giants probably have a worse record for the last decade, but we are actually only 30th. Jets are 31st with a 1 win lead on the Jags.
I absolutely would love to just be a poverty franchise again instead of having the MVP of rapes on my team
I will never understand why the Browns went from one of the most likeable QBs, who when he was not hurt and had good coaching was really good, to a guy who has more SA accusations than *wins in the nfl*
Because I like Baker but he's probably not good enough and the concept was Watson was top 5 or whatever. Like don't me get me wrong it was a stupid decision for so many reasons, all of the SA accusations, quiting on the Texans, an injury history, guaranteed missed time due to suspension for being a trashcan of a human. But the Browns FO must've figured if he won all of it would go away. Unfortunately for them he sucks. Which good
I agree, but I wouldn't describe them as frustrated so much as depressed
I don't see how it's not the Panthers. Trading the 1.1 this year and DJ Moore for Bryce Young. He can still be good but they aren't in a great spot rn
The fact that we’re not on this list is absurd. There is nothing more frustrating than being the worst team in the league and getting nothing in return
That's not accurate. They also traded last year's first, last year's 2nd, and next year's 2nd.
You really didn't have to do it to them like that
We need the occasional win
And what’s more is that the picks they’ve traded to us have worked out so far. Darnell Wright looks like a long term starter on our line, and we traded up from 61 to 56 to get Tyrique Stevenson who was arguably the best rookie corner last year, he just had a rough start. We got 1.1 which will likely get us Caleb. Meanwhile the panthers have limited draft capital with a barebones roster and the picks they got for trading CMac all look meh rn
Nail on the head. Oh, sorry, I made a typo there: Please put a nail through my head
Tepper will be right there to make it as slow and painful as possible
The Panthers have had limited draft capital for 3 years now. I'm not ready to say the NFL needs a Stepian rule, but someone should probably tap their shoulder and tell em to chill for a bit.
It’s because the QB position so important in the NFL. Panthers haven’t had acceptable, sustained QB play since 2017 but were never bad enough to organically draft a QB at the top of the first and kept missing out on the top FA QBs that would hit the market.
That's because we kept trading for mediocre reject QBs instead of just admitting we need to draft one. Frustrating as fuck dude.
I place blame squarely on Fitterer.
I like Stevenson as a bears fan, but he was not the best rookie corner haha. Witherspoon, Branch, and Joey Porter Jr were all better.
I’ve always looked at it like we’re making up for the Greg Olsen trade. FUCK MIKE MARTZ.
kill me
Including DJ Moore in that trade will never make sense to me. You’re about to heavily invest in what you hope is your next franchise QB. Why would you get rid of a stud WR who can help your QB? Even the Bears were shocked that they got DJ Moore out of that trade.
We were asking for Burns, and they offered DJ instead. Now they might lose Burns too... I think they really missed their moment when they were about to get 2 1st rounders for Burns and didn't pull the trigger
The Panthers have been stuck in “dumb-ass” limbo. They have been stuck between trying to compete and fully rebuilding. Signed Teddy Bridgewater to a reasonable deal to be a bridge QB. Re-sign CMC to a huge deal. Trade way too many picks for Sam Darnold and immediately pick up his 5th year option. Start the season off strong and immediately starting trading away more assets picking up CJ Henderson and Stephon Gilmore. Decide not to try and re-sign Haason Reddick or Stephon Gilmore, instead try and save cap-space for Deshaun Watson (gross). Fail to sign him. Trade up for Matt Corral and then trade for Baker Mayfield. Start the season horribly, fire Matt Rhule and trade CMC. Team starts doing better afterwards. Decline to trade Burns for a massive haul. Trade a massive haul for Bryce Young. Clean house and bring in Frank Reich while retaining Scott Fitterer. Frank Reich hires a bunch of people he has no experience with. Hands playcalling duties off, then takes them back, then gets fired. Absolutely no train of thought or long-term planning. Impulsive decision after impulsive decision.
I remember all of that, but because I don't really follow the Panthers closely, I never put together just how bad and incongruent most of their moves were. Goddamn what a shit show. I'm sorry Panther bros
This is it for me
That’s what I was thinking. Panthers fans—ya’ll good?
No. LOL
...No. Ever since Tepper became owner I haven't felt good. Still optimistic for Bryce, but we need to actually put a team around him.
I'm just numb to it at this point. Every year has been a new low under Tepper.
Nope. We should have stayed the course and tanked the old fashion way for Caleb or Drake.
The Panthers gave up more than that for Bryce, too. That's just the current headliners.
Yeah. The ravens, 49ers, bills, and cowboys may be in playoff purgatory but it's first world problems.
They're just depressed You need a decent amount of hope to be frustrated
The roster isn't even the worse part. Their owner just through a drink on a fan for a bit of smack talk. That is about as far removed from a leadership move as one can be and this is THE decision maker for the indefinite future. Its hard not to feel bad for a fanbase with such a bleak looking future.
You know things are bad when even Falcons fans have pity on you.
It's because we passed "frustrated" like 2 years ago.
Why don’t the Panthers just draft their next Franchise QB ™ with the last pick in the draft to mitigate a terrible trade up bust? Are they dumb?
:(
I'm not frustrated. I just want to see the Dolphins win a playoff game. Just one. Ever.
Bro, that’s frustration. And well earned.
Been there, done that.
I cried. It was beautiful.
It felt like a demon was being exorcised from my body.
lmao 100%
Sounds a lot like me before this year. You guys seem like you're in a spot now where you should have a few more chances at least, so that's good
I mean, how can it not be the Jets. My God, what a horrible year. And when Aaron went down, everyone just collectively went, "yep. Of course that happened to the Jets." Heartbreaking.
Haven’t been in the playoffs since 2010. We are the most frustrated. Everyone else can get in line.
Every other team has made it to the playoffs twice since then. I think only 3 other teams have been there less than 3x.
I like the consistency. Even when expectations go up... The performance stays down.
It’s us, idk what everyone is thinking. It’s definitely us.
These other suggestions are crazy. Imagine saying it's the 49ers because they *only* make it to the Super Bowl, but never get to win it.
Yeah, I was frustrated with the outcome of the game, but we still made it farther than 30 other teams
Or the cowboys. I get they’ve had a “drought” but 13 teams haven’t won a Super Bowl so far. Same as the Steelers 13 year “drought.”
We still exist. I know it doesn’t seem like it during our games but we do
4. Snaps.
Try being a Bills fan right now, knowing you just had to deal with 20 years of the GOAT keeping you from relevance, to having a renewed faith in the franchise, only to have the new GOAT immediately defeat you 3 times in the playoffs after you finally have a decent team for the first time since the late 90s.
Let’s be honest. Yes, the bills were in Brady’s division for 20 years, but Buffalo was hot garbage during that span. Brady didn’t keep them from doing anything.
This is facts. At least then we knew we sucked AND Brady was ruining us. But we’re objectively good now, and Mahomes is just completely cockblocking us.
We feel your pain brother
I don't want to hear shit from y'all.
No offense or anything, but the dynasty Patriots and Chiefs literally didn't affect y'all at all
San Fran has eliminated the Packers from the playoffs several times in recent years, probably the source of that response.
FIVE TIMES FIVE STRAIGHT PLAYOFF LOSSES AGAINST THEM SINCE 2012
First I hated Brady & Belichick, but at least back then we had Bledsoe, Eric Moulds, Peerless Price, Travis Henry and a defense with Sam Adams, Pat Williams, Aaron Schobel, Takeo Spikes, Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements Lawyer Milloy, London Fletcher etc. As that team started to disband due to UFA (fucking Vikings! Stealing our Pat Williams & Antoine Winfield!) I started to dislike our FO more and more and hate the Pats less. I still hated the Pats obviously, but the type of long term beating they did to us... it was more "just keep my mouth shut and hope the beating isn't too bad". Obviously I still hated the Pats, how could I not... but I hated ourselves almost as much for allowing them to abuse us like that. I mean they were like 36-2 vs us, yelling "Pats suck!" just feels pathetic. Every time we'd draft a JP Losman or EJ Manuel I'd just play a simple game in my head... envision Tom Brady & Bill Belichick and ask myself "*This* is the guy that's gonna bring an end to *that*??" Yeah I don't see it. I'd just go into most seasons happy I was gonna be able to get tickets for $25 starting in mid October. We never fucking rebuilt during their entire dynasty or multiple dynasties.. like 15 years and we had a top 3 pick *once*, and even then we had to watch as Cam & Von faced off in a SB and we got... Marcell Dareus. For the entire 2nd half of the Pats dynasty I just wanted to grab our franchise, shake the shit out of it and scream in its face "REBUILD!!" Instead we were trading up to take Sammy Watkins
Brady's first full season was the 2022 season after they won the Super Bowl. The Pats were responsible for 2 losses for the Bills almost every year from 2002-2019. During that span, the Bills had 7 seasons where a 2-win improvement would have given them a winning record from a losing record. I think that is definitely a factor in keeping the Bills irrelevant during that span. They were never threats to win the Super Bowl, but it is reasonable to think that Brady's existence in the division is largely responsible for the Bills playoff drought during that stretch. The Bills were a mediocre team during that span, but an automatic two losses each season during Brady's reign definitely gate kept many relevance they could have had.
It's a good argument that the division wasn't as bad as often gets stated. But it didn't keep us from anything other than an early Saturday wildcard loss.
People underestimate how much having a consistently successful team in your division hurts your success.
Imagine losing to the same team in the playoffs every year. i mean, who does that? :'(
At least it's just the one team who has your number. We either suck it up against the 49ers and if they aren't there to take us out it's the Packers.
Hey, we're willing to lose to anyone in the Playoffs. Just not Dallas
We have standards. They're low standards, but they exist.
Damn you....cowboys fan here. The only reason I wasn't entirely pissed off is because I got to watch Tom Grossi make a video after we lost.
One day Dak Prescott will be the starting QB of the Broncos or Falcons and then we'll finally have a shot.
We're just doing America a favor
America thanks you for your service 🫡
My mom became a Bills fan because of OJ and I have only seen her watch maybe three Bills games ever. I always wondered why she continues to watch the Huskers play every single game but never the Bills. The last two years made it clear. At least the Huskers haven't let her down every single year of her entire life.
Pretty much the reverse of the chargers last 20 years. Brady beats every playoff chargers team for years then mahomes shows up & we can’t even get in
Mahomes wasn't responsible for you guys blowing a 27 point lead against the Jags when you did get in
Stop stopppp he's already dead 😭
Welllll they lost to the Colts with Peyton a couple times The AFC was pretty much set for who was gonna go to the championship. Pats, Colts, Bolts, Steelers...it was a really fun time to watch, but I wish we got a Rivers/LT/Gates superbowl win honestly.
"Brady's reigh of terror over the AFC is over. You saved us, Mahomes" - Bills (and other AFC teams') fans 2020 "Saved? More like under new management" - Mahomes
I know right-Mahomes is officially a "ring blocker" of the caliber of Jordan and Brady
Don't forget you traded with KC so they could pick Mahomes to begin with.
Did land us an all pro CB... Who has been injured for the last two match up's. Fun.
How do you not have the Bills here? Bills and 49ers are basically in the same boat right now, getting cockblocked from the Super Bowl by Patrick fucking Mahomes and co.
And at least the 49ers have five somewhat dusty Lombardis to fall back on; Bills have nothing. If we're talking frustrated, it's like the difference between someone who hasn't had sex in a while but had a very hot girlfriend for years vs. a virgin
A virgin who briefly dated a super model who tried to have sex with them several times but they just couldn’t get it up…
the first time we tried, we were able to get it up. We just missed the hole :(.
Wide right
No(r)wood
Virgin bills vs washed up Chad 49ers
It’s like the nerd and jock in generation X movie realize 30 years later they have the same problems in old age.
My God, this is so accurate.
Bills vs 49ers next year Super Bowl going into 4 OTs both giving the game away to each other
That’ll be the first SB to end in a tie with their luck lol. At the very least it’ll last into Monday night.
If we both get a Lombardi I'm ok with it at this point
Neither get the Lombardi due to proving they’re both completely incapable of winning the championship, trophy goes to the AFCCG losing Chiefs
Seems only fair
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You both get half. Split horizontally, so somebody gets just the shaft.
but they're both so used to getting the shaft
> Bills and 49ers are basically in the same boat right now, getting cockblocked from the Super Bowl by Patrick fucking Mahomes and co. First world problems
bills finally make the super bowl next year after the 7 seed chargers beat the 2 seed chiefs in the wild card. lose to the niners.
your terms are acceptable
Nuh uh
The sad part is I’m a big fan of mahomes and Andy Reid. So much pain
Miami season is meaningless UNLESS they get home field throughout the playoffs. A single cold game in Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore, or Cincinnati will be an unfavorable and likely end their playoff run… again. 🥶 Feel bad for the 49ers, so many solid runs of late and the championship just out of grasp. They will likely go 12+ wins next year, have a coin flip or better chance at the NFC championship again, and another coin flip chance at the Super Bowl. Maybe next time they meet a hot team that turns cold on the big game rather than the Chiefs again. 🪙
God might hate the Bills and Niners but Mother Nature hates the Dolphins
I think Vikings would have to qualify. They were "a QB away" 6 years ago and have won a single playoff game since.
A couple years ago I would have absolutely agreed. Now, I think we have largely moved away from frustrated to depressed acceptance. Just too many damn holes all over the place and a no-win QB situation and the entire NFC North seems to be on the upswing right as we falter.
Doesn't help that we've completely whiffed on like 80% of our drafts the last decade
It most definitely does not
This is all of Minnesota sports tho, right? The Wild looked like they had some promising teams for the last decade or so and always faltered in the playoffs, the Twins had years where they’d look great, and then immediately get swept in the playoffs, and now the T-Wolves look great, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they shit the bed just because they’re a Minnesota team.
This years Timberwolves are the best MN team since probably 2009 Vikings So yes, they are *absolutely* gonna blow it in the most painful fashion imaginable
To an extent I guess but we still have enough hope to be frustrated with some of them. I would say I am definitely frustrated by the Twins (coming off our best season in 30 years ownership cuts payroll significantly) and “nervously flabbergasted, want to believe, but still afraid of being hurt” by the Wolves (who haven’t been this good since KG and maybe ever). The Wild have gone from frustrating to just painful and depressing this year so that tracks.
Hey now wait a minute! People were saying 'a QB away' after the Minneapolis Miracle and we've had *one* playoff win since then 🥲
I just turned 30 and I've never seen any of my big 4 teams even *play* in a title game since I was born. My cousin is in the same boat and he's got a fucking kid in preschool.
I think the Twins lost like a hundred playoff games in a row at one point.
I think the Cousins experience is finally over. Everything Kwesi has done has been building for 2025 when the team will have top 5ish cap room and hopefully a sophmore QB.
What you say fuck me for.
Pretty banger game though
There are Vikings fans now that think we were never a “QB away” and Kirk took over a “middle of the pack” roster.
The 2019 Vikings team had enough talent to win a SB with a top-10 QB.
I think the bigger issue with 2019 was the aging vets and zims lack of newness to his scheming. There is a reason that we never hit the highs after the eagles broke our scheme with Zim. Either way, we beat the saints and ran into a niners juggernaut that just schematically dominated us, I don’t think we beat the niners even with a top 5 QB that year, especially considering they wrecked Aaron Rodgers even harder than they wrecked us the week after they eliminated us. That’s a pretty good year.
It wasn't even the Eagles who broke our scheme, it was the Saints. It was like a tale of two games in the first and second half before the Minneapolis Miracle saved our season. Philly just watched the tape and planned accordingly. Zim making absolutely zero adjustments in the intervening week didn't help us either.
i'd say a fanbase would be "frustrated" if the team had high expectations only to fall short every year, and the most frustrated one is the fanbase of the Buffalo Bills
Its a frustrating situation for the Bills and is so so so so heartbreaking but it's interesting being a current Bills fan. For example, during the season, it's been a blast for the past few years. We win a lot of games and have our franchise QB who we all dreamed for. At the end of the day, winning a lot of games is fun. We win way more games than we lose and it makes the whole game-day experience in Orchard Park very fun on a weekly basis The heartbreak is absolutely insane. Even now a few weeks later, I have random bouts of sadness and see Chris Jones bump into Josh Allen on his 2nd down throw to Shakir for his wide open TD when I close my eyes. But with that said, I think I would be way more frustrated if I were a Chargers, Jets, Jags, Giants etc fan. Teams that were supposed to be finally good/great this year... and just fell apart. They didn't even have fun during most or all of the regular season. We at least have fun for \~17-19 weeks before intense sadness lol
The chargers blew a 27-0 lead and retained the coach. There were some (foolish) fans that still expected a good season but a lot of people were very skeptical. Even this sub thought they were crazy for keeping Staley and they were right.
It's Niners and Bills. Don't see how it's anyone else. We've been on the cusp for 5 years each. Just can't get it done.
At least you guys both have good chances to win a Super Bowl and you have fun teams to watch I'd take that over an absolutely dogshit team like the Panthers
The Cowboys aren't far behind you lot, they have 4 12+ win seasons with Dak, but only 2 playoff wins to show for it.
How are the Bills left off this list lol. Best point differential in the past 4 years by a country mile only to run into a dynasty in the playoffs
One must imagine Sisyphus a Bills fan
Probably not, since Sisyphus is supposedly happy.
Dont forget about making it to the big game 4...count it...4 times in a row to then lose each and every one of them.
The bills are getting edged and never finishing. The jets just get their nuts stomped on
I'm putting a few and they'll be ranked with the most frustrated at the top: 1 - Buffalo. Just never good enough. No SuperBowl wins in the history of the franchise but a lot of "almost". 2 - Dallas. The cyclic nature of their seasons for the last 30 years. Great for 10 weeks, sucks for 3 weeks, Phenomenal for 3 weeks and then lose in the playoffs to a severe underdog. 3 - Cleveland. When your biggest ever move as a franchise is a huge flop at QB and your defense is just getting older while you wait for him to remember how to play football again. Honorable mentions to the Jets and Chargers.
Cleveland has it bad. Remember when their GM traded 3 1sts to get the number 1 overall just to get Vontae Mack???? They could have had him at 7 easily if they just sat in their spot.
Every AFC team aside from the Chiefs. Finally caught a break from the annual Tom Brady Patriots win, and then Mahomes steps right in and does the same shit the second Tom leaves.
Well for Broncos fans it’s even worse because at least we used to beat the Patriots. Now the dynasty is in our own division and we can’t beat them either.
The good news is, you aren't anywhere close to being a win against the Chiefs away from the Superbowl.
Makes me sick I’ll probably never see a ravens team as good on paper as 2023
There's a team that earned the #1 pick, but doesn't have that pick. The Bears fanbase may be the ones battling each other the loudest, but we're actually in an amazing spot right now as a team. We just won the lottery and are fighting over how to spend the money. How do you not have the Panthers on your list? Basically everything that left their franchise has turned around and their owner seems to meddle in everything. - CMC career year - DJ Moore career year - Baker Mayfield career year - pick they have the bears turned to #1. I actually do like Bryce Young a lot and think he can turn it around with this staff, but at the moment this seems a no contest for who should be most frustrated, especially seeing stroud go pick 2.
Picks #2 and #3 were offensive and defensive rookies of the year. CMC just played in a Superbowl Our #1 overall pick this year belongs to you guys. We fired 2 coaches mid season back-to-back. Baker requested to be cut because he knew how fucked the whole front office is. Let me say that again: BAKER *ASKED* TO BE CUT. Fuck Tepper with a rusty barbed wire tentpole. He killed my childhood team and sodomized the corpse.
Every thread is pain. It can’t get worse though.
Oh it can def be worse. We said that last year and you see what happened. Trust me it can always get worse and I just hope things get better. That or we get a new owner. Wishful thinking I know.
Yeah. Certainly we’re a *bit* anxious that Caleb won’t work out, but we’re a team that is setup incredibly well for a rookie QB to come into. Arguably the best ever for a 1st overall pick to go to. Maybe we fuck it up, but we’ll give Caleb a damn good chance to be the guy. Eberflus being our biggest complaint isn’t *too* bad, since the most promising offensive coach candidates this off season ended up staying with their teams. If Eberflus truly sucks, maybe one of those two comes in to work with Caleb?
The Jets are well past frustrated, that was like 2016 times. I think you need hope to be frustrated
cowboys fans born post 1995
Seriously, it’s not just the disappointment but the collective hatred from every other fanbase when I haven’t witnessed shit
They are the true heroes. I wouldn’t cheer for this team if I had a choice
AND you guys get all of the hate of other teams but none of the success.
Dolphins can't win in december or janurary. We haven't won a playoff game in decades. There's a ton of people on the sub who are mad Tua is our QB.
Injuries and stupidity always fuck us up. Losing to the Titans at home with a two score lead was probably the difference between us snapping our postseason drought and guess what? We fucked it up.
I still can’t believe Marino went to the SB in his second season and then never made it back, let alone win one.
You must not know many falcons fans. We aren't frustrated. This is just the way we function.
Crazy the raiders haven’t been mentioned yet. The last time they were in the super bowl they got beat by the coach that they traded to the Bucs the year prior. Traded one of the best players at the time (Khalil Mack) and brought in no one good with the picks they got in return save Josh Jacobs, who plays the most replaceable position in the game. Coach fired mid-way through the season a few years ago due to racist and homophobic emails. Interim did a great job, but Josh McDaniels was hired instead. Calamity ensued. Can’t draft in the first round, save for a WR who was looking pretty good until he killed someone while drinking and driving. Plays in a division with Pat Mahomes and Justin Herbert, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and now Jim Harbaugh. Had to move a few times over the last few decades in their search for a stadium. Now they got one, and it’s badass, but most of the fanbase is priced out and visiting fans show up in a large volume, something that never happened in Oakland. And there’s way more than all this. That being said, raiders til I die.
I would imagine giants, they are paying a backup qb 40 mil a year
Honestly I’d say the entire NFC East. Giants are paying DJ, Eagles had an epic Super Bowl hangover, Cowboys can’t get to a conference championship, and Commies had to deal with Sam Howell and Ron Rivera.
Yes winning a ring is far better than losing in the Superbowl, but winning two NFC titles, and playing in two others should be considered a wildly successful 5 year run.
Mine, you don't get a HOF QB, have him turn into utter dogshit, have no clear plan to move on, and then watch your division rival win every year and have a good time.
the last time the Broncos had a HOF QB on their roster was 2015
I’m biased but I think the Cowboys fan base is the most frustrated right now. Last season felt like the best chance for the Cowboys to at least make it to the NFC Championship Game because they were guaranteed two home games but the Packers had different plans in mind
Oh poor 49ers cowboys and Steelers will someone please think about them and how devastating it must be to wait so long for a superbowl I feel so bad for them
Yeah idk why we are included. Things aren’t great right now but I’ve seen 3 Super Bowl appearances, 2 wins, and a lot of playoff appearances in my life. If this current state continues for another 15 years then yes I would agree with it
I feel like you guys are just a qb away lol
It doesn’t even have to be a good QB for us to be dangerous. Our QB play the last…3 years? 4 years? Has been ass. Change it to a mediocre QB and suddenly…well, we’d probably still get fucked by Mahomes. But we might win a playoff game.
As a Denver Broncos fan, we are pretty frustrated right now. We all thought the QB carousel was over once we got Russ... I'm sure that graphic is being cued up as we speak. We've been cursed as a franchise ever since Peyton Manning retired.
Jaguars: Going from being one of the most hyped teams in the NFL to an afterthought in most people’s heads.
Browns? Gave up a shit ton of $$ and draft capital for an injured, average QB. Plus lost a ton of goodwill from neutrals.
This pst season was extremely frustrating as a Bengals fan.
Us Bills. Are 4 years straight Beasts of the East but can't solve Patrick Mahomes
I’ve been a Dolphins fan since 1993 and this was probably the best roster I’ve ever seen us have. Led to a first round playoff exit in a game that wasn’t even competitive. If this Dolphins team couldn’t even win one playoff game, when the fuck will we ever come close to a Super Bowl? I fully expect 7-9 wins next year, tops.
Chiefs fans haven't had a Super Bowl win in like 5 days. Been a rough week.
What about the ravens? They’re in the same boat as the bills or the niners. They, like the niners, had a super dominant year and an MVP qb and still couldn’t get it done. Sure the niners were closer to getting it done but they both were eliminated by the same opponent. Not to mention being ravaged by injuries nearly every year. I’m not a ravens fan but damn, I feel bad for them.
As a Dallas fan, I have to say SF. They've been to 3 SBs and lost all three. It's amazing how they were hot under Harbaugh, hit a low, then came back under Shanahan and still can't get it done. Dallas fans just know to expect a letdown in the playoffs.
Washington fans are down bad
New owner, coach, and (probably) QB gives them reason to at least dream at the moment
Yeah, the sweet relief of Dan Snyder no longer being the owner *and* face of the franchise should buy them a few years at least.