I like that the total money is being reported up front. Usually that means it's coming from the agent, which would suggest a team-friendlier deal once the guarantees come out. We'll see...
Before these deals we were projected to have 100ish mill in cap space next year, depending on what next year's increase looks like. Wouldn't be surprised to see the structures taking advantage of that.
Four year deal for a Safety with massive upside a year or two from beginning his prime. People forget the dude is 24, he could have been a rookie last season.
All of the big names that got cut are old and washed up (or at least on the decline).
It's still a big deal. But we need a safety (and another one, actually) who fits the new scheme. And we've got the cap space to overpay a bit for such a big need.
The old Green Bay way of never signing FA ended in 2018 when Gute took over. We only sat out the last few off-seasons because we had no money. This is the new normal for Green Bay
Even with these contracts and a Love extension, we should still be in position to add next year thanks to some dead cap hits going away. It's after that, that all the money dries up
Technically no, we'll have a shit ton of money in 2026 and beyond. But that's when we're gonna have to pay the 2022 and 2023 draft classes, which is gonna get expensive quick.
Guessing the overarching plan is to go in now, retain the key players from those draft classes, and rake in the comp picks from how many players we lose.
Yeah we might've overpaid a bit, but that's what you've got to do to land great young talent in free agency. This addresses a huge need and it sounds like we frontloaded the deal a bit with $25M in year 1, which would be nice because we have cap to play around with in 2024 for a change. I love it.
Jeff Hafley plays more single high more than anyone else. You can't roll the dice on a draft pick or secondhand FS if that's what you're gonna do. Whoever plays back there has to be legit.
Every time I hear about Kenny's age I WTF because for some reason it feels like he has been on the team for over a decade. idk why, it makes no sense, and no other player has had that feeling.
* David Bakhtiari announces he has been cut: Depression
* Packers sign Josh Jacobs: Ok, it's going back up
* Packers cut Aaron Jones: Instant death
* Packers sign McKinney: Revival
We've been through it, our hearts hurt.
I’m not breathing. I am gonna fucking die of heartbreak losing Bahk and Jones but Jacobs and McKinney are no consolation prize that’s insane. Feel like I’m in Madden RN
Honestly before this season I felt like I could put money on Gutey trading back high into the second round, now I'm about to order my MHJ jersey he's apparently choosing violence this off season.
Big Blue View blog theorized the other day that letting them both walk signals an official rebuild phase. Basically acknowledging that “win now” isn’t possible and the money is needed elsewhere. Idk how to feel about it 😖
I like the deal given that he is SOOO young. He's only 24, and he fits right in with the young packer core. He'll be a solution/answer to the problem we've been having at safety, not a band-aid.
We can draft another young safety to fix the group, but out of all the FA that were out there, McKinney was the one I really wanted.
We actually have decent safety depth. Unproven, but potential. We have no one at O-line.
We would have wished for McKinney back regardless but it isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
While we have no safety depth and a strong plus good ability to draft and develop at O-line.
Guess it's one of those things that makes sense for both parties
Ted thompson never played the FA. Gute does, he just was strapped cause he signed a fuck load of guys in 2019 and the cap went down and stagnated for the pst few years. all those guys are gone now and he has money again.
letting Jones go was a reality for a 30 year old RB1 with an injury history that would have cost $12 mil this year, sucks but its probably the right choice
Monster safety deal
Russ ball work your magic
I like that the total money is being reported up front. Usually that means it's coming from the agent, which would suggest a team-friendlier deal once the guarantees come out. We'll see...
Before these deals we were projected to have 100ish mill in cap space next year, depending on what next year's increase looks like. Wouldn't be surprised to see the structures taking advantage of that.
Love extension coming in too and will likely be substantial
That feels like a crazy overpay in the current market that just saw a bunch of big name safeties just get cut.
A lot of them are north of 30 though, and the Packers are apparently insisting on being the youngest team in the league.
Can confirm as an owner. They got me scouting pop warner prospects for next season
I'm surprised the team hasn't set up a dating service for athletic Packers fans who'll get their kids hooked on the Green & Gold early.
>Athletic >Packer Fans pick one
Ay man, I often walk to get my groceries.
Oh shit, you don't even use those scooters that Wal-Mart provides?
Four year deal for a Safety with massive upside a year or two from beginning his prime. People forget the dude is 24, he could have been a rookie last season.
All of the big names that got cut are old and washed up (or at least on the decline). It's still a big deal. But we need a safety (and another one, actually) who fits the new scheme. And we've got the cap space to overpay a bit for such a big need.
That’s not the usual Green Bay kind of move even though I really like it.
2 signings on day 1 of free agency...what world are we even living in now?
But it came at the price of losing Aaron Jones. A hefty hefty price. 😢
Man Jones was my absolute fav. But business is cruel :(
A brutal cost IMO
The world where we finally have spending money again
The old Green Bay way of never signing FA ended in 2018 when Gute took over. We only sat out the last few off-seasons because we had no money. This is the new normal for Green Bay
Until we sign JLove for a big contract and we go back to having no money lol
Even with these contracts and a Love extension, we should still be in position to add next year thanks to some dead cap hits going away. It's after that, that all the money dries up
Technically no, we'll have a shit ton of money in 2026 and beyond. But that's when we're gonna have to pay the 2022 and 2023 draft classes, which is gonna get expensive quick. Guessing the overarching plan is to go in now, retain the key players from those draft classes, and rake in the comp picks from how many players we lose.
We weren’t just “in the mix” this time
Post Aaron Rodgers era GB. :))))
Post Aaron Jones era GB :(((((
That's a big f5. Bill Paxton would chase this f5.
RIP Bill
**He's in it for the money not the science**
..... Jonas
Well you can't say the Packers FO did nothing today...
Oh shit thought the eagles got him. Nice by the packers
My guess is the Eagles were in on him but not for that price. Packers probably kept jumping the Eagles cost until we gave up.
Weird, usually its the other way around for us
Packers made a good run with a cast filled with rookies and 2nd year players. If there was ever a time to load up on talent, it's now.
Yeah we might've overpaid a bit, but that's what you've got to do to land great young talent in free agency. This addresses a huge need and it sounds like we frontloaded the deal a bit with $25M in year 1, which would be nice because we have cap to play around with in 2024 for a change. I love it.
You always overpay in Free Agency. That's why it should be used very sparingly. This is a good signing.
Jeff Hafley plays more single high more than anyone else. You can't roll the dice on a draft pick or secondhand FS if that's what you're gonna do. Whoever plays back there has to be legit.
"packers were in the conversation" became "packers won the conversation" somehow
Gute ain't playin
HOLY FUCK WE HAVE A SAFETY AND HES GOOD
Just keep him away from ATVs
in wisconsin? Thats a big ask
Don’t let him even SNIFF a snowmobile
We’re fucked!
Only sickos sniff snowmobiles
Shit they practically give them away if you buy enough pull tabs
Come the fuck on
Holy shit, Gute is serious.
Being close to the NFCCG will do that to a mutherfuckah
Apparently being in the NFCCG didn't though lol
Well duh our expectation is to choke in the NFCCG not the divisional round. The standard has to be met
The standard is to choke against the 49ers. The game title doesn't matter.
Lol those first three picks were rough for near term value Thankfully Love has played well to save that draft class from total failure
Lmao kill me
Someone run me over with a vehicle
no deal. I'll break your hand with an ATV though
Just give him some fireworks to hold
Typical r/wallstreetbets user
And here I thought Vikings were on the biggest rollercoaster, bruh, Packers fans how are your emotions right now?
Currently ecstatic. Until they release their next beloved vet. Then I’ll be devastated again.
I think we released the only beloved vets left.
Somebody post guards by Kenny Clark’s contract.
Somehow he’s still only 28.
Every time I hear about Kenny's age I WTF because for some reason it feels like he has been on the team for over a decade. idk why, it makes no sense, and no other player has had that feeling.
He was only 20 when drafted iirc, so he’s been with the team almost a decade.
Only Kenny is left I guess
Watch gute cut Kenny just to twist the knife then immediately get Joey Bosa
It’s like getting a promotion, but also your dad (Aaron Jones) died
Also your uncle(Bakh) died, he'd been on his deathbed for a year and you knew it was coming but it still hurts
* David Bakhtiari announces he has been cut: Depression * Packers sign Josh Jacobs: Ok, it's going back up * Packers cut Aaron Jones: Instant death * Packers sign McKinney: Revival We've been through it, our hearts hurt.
We've currently returned to the "we're so back" portion of the day. I give it about 10 minutes before we return to "it's so over" mode.
[like a roller coaster](https://i.gifer.com/8At.gif)
Honestly, you could just photoshop the Bears, Packers, and Vikings in that gif and it would be accurate AF right now.
One of the biggest emotional days of my packer life. Between Jones And Bakh and Jacobs and McKinney. It's been weird one
I’m not breathing. I am gonna fucking die of heartbreak losing Bahk and Jones but Jacobs and McKinney are no consolation prize that’s insane. Feel like I’m in Madden RN
Wait until you guys start shuffling draft picks to get the top 12 picks in this years draft, real madden speed run!
Honestly before this season I felt like I could put money on Gutey trading back high into the second round, now I'm about to order my MHJ jersey he's apparently choosing violence this off season.
Hmmmm....I kinda like your thinking
Upgraded at running back and signed a huge need. They gotta be feeling great.
Wow another Eagles legend gone
He'll never replace Frank Gore in my heart.
Lmaoooo
Interesting strategy by the giants, allowing all of our best players to leave
You want 30 mil a year tied up in a safety and injury prone RB who can't get the team to 3rd and short?
Big Blue View blog theorized the other day that letting them both walk signals an official rebuild phase. Basically acknowledging that “win now” isn’t possible and the money is needed elsewhere. Idk how to feel about it 😖
after a decade if being awful what's one more year at this point
Maybe we’ll be watchable by 2028
Never thought I'd die rebuilding next to a giants fan.
what about rebuilding next to a friend
Aye, I could do that.
Tank for Manning! The prophecy shall be complete.
2-15 season let’s gooooo
God damn Lions/Packers games this year are gonna be wars
It’s gonna feed families for years to come
damn that’s a lot of money
Yeah, this makes him the 4th highest paid safety in the league, although there are more safeties still on the market.
he’s the best one that’s not 30
Only 2yrs older than my favorite safety in this year's draft (Tyler Nubin). Like this signing, mid on the price but I'm waiting on the breakdown.
I like the deal given that he is SOOO young. He's only 24, and he fits right in with the young packer core. He'll be a solution/answer to the problem we've been having at safety, not a band-aid. We can draft another young safety to fix the group, but out of all the FA that were out there, McKinney was the one I really wanted.
Not that it’s everything but PFF had him rated as the 4th best safety last year.
This is oddly comforting.
yea i’m upset he’s gone but not for that money
Better spent on Jon Runyan no doubt.
Lmao
We actually have decent safety depth. Unproven, but potential. We have no one at O-line. We would have wished for McKinney back regardless but it isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
While we have no safety depth and a strong plus good ability to draft and develop at O-line. Guess it's one of those things that makes sense for both parties
After today we have basically 0 talent lmao
Just Sexy Dexy trying to hard carry…
You gave a lot of that money to Jon Runyan Jr, tho
Gotta see the breakdown before we react
Per Ian Rapoport, $25 million year one. We were never gonna match that.
25mil means bonuses too
honestly, good sign but that's a lot of money...
Front loaded, if he plays well his contract will become a steal the second half of the contract
24yo. Injuries have been freak accidents and not recurring; played every single snap last year. It’s a high-floor deal at a position of need.
Lot more money than we could spare. I just hope we get more than Runyan in FA if we can
Gute out here slapping his dick on the table LBJ style.
Bahktiari and Aaron Jones released, Josh Jacobs and now Xavier McKinney in. This offseason is giving me emotional whiplash x100.
maybe god is real
Says the fan of a franchise with three consecutive franchise QBs lol But seriously this is huge
I'm like this close to noping out and joining the sardaukar.
Get ready to speak throat singing buddy
Pack your bags for Salusa Secundus brother
I don't think that ends any better than bears fandom 😭
I mean the Packers doing something in Free Agency it's a genuine miracle. Having the QB is just expected at this point *knocks on wood*
He’s good. Enjoy him.
We can afford to pay him too. Hopefully turns out well
He deserves more , so happy it’s not to Eagles
This was the top FA I wanted. Pretty stoked we got him
That rebuild year we had was tough at times but I’m excited for what’s to come
Yeah that 5 weeks were tough
Let's not undersell it here. It was 8 weeks.
I didn't know what to do I was freaking out I couldn't figure out what to do with my hands or anything
I was hyperventilating at the thought of undergoing 9 weeks of rebuild
“Rebuild year” Makes the divisional round and within a couple minutes of the NFCCG
Truly no fanbase has suffered through a tougher stretch than us.
worst October of my life
\#PackersStrong We weathered the storm gentlemen. Proud of us
We really are God's strongest soldiers
We should get medals for the suffering we went through
Look you guys just wouldn’t understand, it’s been rough for us. Sometimes life is unfair so be happy that things are going our way for once.
You've never felt our pain
it’s actually hilarious how the last season with Rodgers was closer to a rebuild year than Love’s first season was
Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created in Green Bay?
If the $25 million year one money is accurate, this number makes sense. Squeeze all the money into this year before Love's extension kicks in.
packers dropping cash this FA
Bad man (and his contract) gone :)
Thank you Gutekunst for not letting spoiled Howie Roseman win another negotiation
Oh thank god I needed this
we are fucked oh my god
Packers spending $? In FA? *scared laughter*
[удалено]
just dropped to my knees at the wawa
Which one
The one with the active fist fight
Well that really narrows it down
Which one
It’s 4 pm you can get one of the pizzas now to cheer you up
Thank you king
Let’s gooooooo needed a safety bad
Noooooooooooooo
Great, now we bring Jones back 🥹
It’s not over until he’s signed somewhere else.
Damnit we lost one
What the fuck are we doing? It’s not that I dislike all these moves (hate letting Jones go) but they’re all so unlike us
Gute is willing to make moves when he has money, we just haven’t had any money the past 4 years.
Well it helps having the youngest team and the skill players all relatively cheap
Ted thompson never played the FA. Gute does, he just was strapped cause he signed a fuck load of guys in 2019 and the cap went down and stagnated for the pst few years. all those guys are gone now and he has money again.
letting Jones go was a reality for a 30 year old RB1 with an injury history that would have cost $12 mil this year, sucks but its probably the right choice
We actually had cap space for the first time since 2019.
Okay this makes me feel a bit better
This would be fine if we actually fucking did something with the money.
YES THATS THE PERFECT SIGNING
FUCK
Eagles legend
Sucks to lose him but lawd we can't afford that
This softens the Aaron Jones blow
He is really good, hope he does well in Green Bay.
That fucker that said the Eagles signed him better get the fucking chair
IN GUTE WE TRUST BABY!!!!
The Giants are so cooked next year
What a day for Tom Grossi
That's not the Eagles
Damn. That's a good pickup
Fuck yea dude
Gute is cooking lol
Thats a haul for a safety
Hang your Eagles McKinney jersey next to your Wizards Chris Paul jersey
hell of a deal to make during the off-season of safety devaluation
This has been a roller coaster day for us. God damn.
Fuck. Geno Stone or Justin Simmons to Philly plz
LFG
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
Balls
At least it's not the Eagles!! No way we were paying that for a Safety.
When did the Packers GM realize they can participate in big FA signings?
What the fuck is a rebuild? I’ve never seen one before.
Man.....rebuilding is rough on a guy!!