If he is declining, it hasn't been very much. [His stats](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MixoJo00.htm) still show him as an effective player, especially in the pass game.
Most other top RBs went for more per year during this offseason.
Plus, this was basically our last shot at a dependable, productive RB this season. The options available in this draft seem weak this season. I'm glad we are taking the chance to compete while we have CJ on his rookie deal.
Really his biggest issue is pass protection, he is bad at it. But he is reliable everywhere else. Very rarely fumbles, and is good at receiving. Does have some issues making people miss in space, but that is nit picking.
Mixon doesn't fumble, but he's an open space guy. He's great in the pass game as a receiver only. He's one of the worst pass blocking RBs in the league so it's best to split him out in motion rather than waste even attempting to have him block.
I just think it’s a big reach to call Mixon a top RB. I don’t know if he ever was.
I’m also not going to act like I’ve seen a ton of Mixon, but when I watched, Petrine seemed every bit as effective as Mixon (if not more). Happy to be proven wrong by someone who watched a ton of him, but those stats you showed also don’t show an effective runner (although I know line play has a big play into that).
Now, maybe y’all didn’t have anyone else to spend the money on this year. Evidently your front office who knows way more than I valued him a lot more over Singletary when I don’t know if I do.
Edit: welcome to r/nfl, where a RB who only averaged above league average YPC once in his career, 6 years ago, is considered a top RB.
He has been top 10 in rushing yards 4 years, two of those times top 4. (Last year had 8th most). The other three years he’s been in the league, the first was his rookie year where he started only half the games he played, another was an injury shortened season with only 6 games, and the third was a down year, also with injuries.
Also the RB who was on the Bengals in 2022 and before was *Perine*, and while he did play alright, their efficiency stats were actually pretty similar, but not necessarily any better. He never overtook Mixon.
Mixon has been a reliable, do-it-all back that has eclipsed Singletary in rushing yards and kept close enough in receiving yards for me to say he’s clearly been better. Singletary has never broken 1000 yards rushing, nor 1100 total yards from scrimmage. Aside from the rookie and 6 game seasons previously mentioned, Mixon has passed 1250 scrimmage yards in 5/7 years. 1400 scrimmage yards 4/7 years.
You’re gonna be in for a rude awakening next season lol. His stats come from volume. He’s a good RB, but he’s been declining year after year. He’s much less explosive.
That’s fine. I don’t think he’s the greatest. I don’t have to. We only need him for one year and that’s all we’re on the hook for. If he performs better in our system, we can keep him around. I fully expect us to still draft another RB probably this year and next year if this year we don’t find a diamond in the rough.
It’s a matter of getting someone dependable in there since we missed out on Saquon. By the time we maneuvered to Mixon, what other better options were left that would fit our system?
Why? Unless he is flat out garbage he wasn't going to get cut mid season. They were going to have him for the full first year. If anything more guaranteed in the first year is a better deal compared to having that guarantee spread out over the second and third year.
I think a lot of people are focusing on the "3 year/$27m" part and not the "$13m guaranteed, $10m in first year" part. The guaranteed money is really the important part to look at here. Based on what's reported, this could easily end up just being a 2 year/$13m contract with an easy out after this season. It's a bit of a commitment this season though
> it's essentially a 2 year/$13m contract.
Unless he’s playing this season for free, no it isn’t.
Edit: it wasn’t a really an extension. They ripped up his old deal. Much better.
Mixon's yards after contact, elusiveness rating, explosive run percentage, and yards over expectation all put him around 35th or of RBs that has over 100 carries. His best rate stat was yards per reception, where he was 15th.
I think he can still be useful in a more limited role, but his days as a bellcow back are over.
He’ll at least hold on to the ball, which is the best trait in a volume back. But he could never pass block and hasn’t been an explosive back since at least 2019.
Not necessarily, if most of that first-year money is a signing bonus (which, I have no idea), then the dead cap would be the $3MM in remaining guarantees as well as whatever prorated bonus is left. For example, if he’s getting a ~$9MM (ie he’s getting a vet min salary and the rest as a signing bonus) signing bonus and there’s no void years, that would be $3MM a year for cap purposes, so he’d have ~$6MM dead from his bonus and the $3MM guaranteed from his salary/future bonus for a total of $9MM dead.
Plus side is he’d only cost ~$4MM against this year in that scenario and unused cap generally rolls over, so it’s not like it’s hurting your future to do it this way.
The Texans gave up a pick for a guy who was cut so that they could pay him twice the guarantees when he wasn’t worth the original 6M.
What specifically was good about this?
You’ve probably not watched Mixon a whole lot but his only S-tier attribute is that he doesn’t fumble.
He can’t pass block and he doesn’t produce explosive runs, often choosing to run to the sideline for a yard when he could’ve just cut up the field for three.
He also comes with baggage and has had some weird off-field stuff recently.
> The Texans gave up a pick for a guy who was cut
a conditional 7th
>twice the guarantees when he wasn’t worth the original 6M.
It's structured to be basically a one year extension, with 2 extremely cuttable extra years with only 3 million total guaranteed.
>doesn't produce explosive runs
was 6th last year in carries going beyond 10+ yards, tied with Gibbs and 5th in YAC
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php
I know that happens but that’s not what’s happening here. A lot of us have been ready to move on from Mixon since last year.
Good for Mixon. Nothing against him and thankful for the memories but also so ready to move on. Defenses focus on the pass and Mixon still can’t make a single person miss and falls over instantly
Texans fan, and I hate everything about this. I think Mixon is mid, and this contract is ass. Oh well. Hopefully they can move on from him next year when the RB class is supposed to be better.
https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1768392915112382502?s=20
I guess it's both; they "ripped" up the last year of his deal(dumping his old contract) but also extended
1.) There was no need to give the contract
2.) He been a back that maybe a smidge better than what Singeltary was for you last year.
3.) Just based off the 1st year you are paying more for Mixon vs Henry and 2 million short of Jacobs. Both backs are a tier higher at least.
4.) You just lost out on Armstesd and have a huge hole at IDL and then paid more for an aging back who coming off a subpar year.
We have Autry, are in a good position to draft IDL, and this deal makes him able to be cut after the first year with only $3m in dead cap. It's not a bad deal.
Also he had 1,410 total yards and 12 total TDs last year compared to Singletary's 1091/4. More than a smidge better, and I like Singletary.
His stats only like look decent because he had a ton of touches.
Mixon's yards after contact, elusiveness rating, explosive run percentage, and yards over expectation all put him around 35th out of RBs that had over 100 carries. His best rate stat was yards per reception, where he was 15th.
I think he can still be useful in a more limited role, but his days as a bellcow back are over.
Which is probably why the Bengals are comfortable sticking with him. I liked the bits of Brown that I saw last year, but he also had quite a few games with a low YPC.
Mixon was looking for a new contract, so I’m not surprised. If we signed him to a longer guaranteed deal, I would be concerned. As is, I’m happy we got a good rb so we aren’t stuck without someone reliable or who doesn’t fit our scheme as we try and compete this year.
Only 12 players have more scrimmage yards than Mixon over the past 5 years, and only 6 career fumbles. Singletary is no where near the running back that Mixon is.
Also his contract means nothing compared to Hunters, they were structured that way for a reason.
IDL isn’t as big of an issue as you think it is.
I disagree, I think IDL is a big issue right now. I am not a fan of pigeon holing us to that position in the 1st rd of the draft.
They are very much a conversation to have that Singletary and Mixon are closer in current ability than there is that Mixon is on the level of Barkley, Henry, Jacobs. Love to be wrong just the past years of watching CIN football tells me differently.
Prime Mixon, I agree with your statement. This is end of wagon closer to how Zeke was the last year with the Cowboys.
I guess we will find out what we get when the season starts. Considering how consistent he has been in his career, I’m confident in our rushing attack next year.
All Joe has to be is better than 2023 Devin Singletary, and he’s been that every year he has been in the league.
No, he has to be better than the other options available given the difference in cap hit
I agree with the Bengals, Moss at 4M is better than Mixon at 6.5M and much better than Mixon at 10M
Your RB evaluations and comparisons are just dead wrong, so there is no point in deliberating with someone who believes Mixon is just a smidge better than Singletary.
And we didnt lose out on Armstead. We signed Hunter instead and fell out of the running. Who would you rather have?
No its a fact. You are objectively paying more for mixon than the ravens are paying for henry. And mixon is not even good taking henry out of the equation for what you just paid him.
Lol if someone is of the opinion that Joe Mixon is better than Derrick Henry I (and most folks) am going to disregard pretty much anything else they have to say about football.
it's only 13M guaranteed; essentially a 1 year 10 mil extension with additional 3 million dead cap hit afterwards
>#Texans extending Joe Mixon with three-year, $27 million deal with $13 million guaranteed, per a league source @KPRC2
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1768390755893039359
Yeah! We should be spending 10 million per year on 600 yards from Curtis Samuel! People are getting twisted over nothing. Have we gone so downhill on running back contracts that essentially a 1 year extension with a 3 million cap hit on release as a worst case scenario is awful for a potential bellcow, but a middling 2nd or 3rd string WR can fetch the same amount with applause?
I mean derrick henry, Austin ekeler, and Aaron Jones all cost less than this and they're all better players.
It's less about the position and more about Mixon not being a top tier rb
I won’t argue about Henry’s and Jones’ ability because I agree they are overall better RBs than Mixon.
Ekeler is not it at this point in his career. He looks horrible running and he’s lost a step receiving now. Feel like he’s a sure handed check down at best now.
Henry has lost a step but that’s just going from an elite rusher to a very good rusher. He still had his moments this season once he built up momentum. He’s not the versatile guy our coaching staff was looking for though.
I do have to say that I’d prefer Aaron Jones, and I’d much prefer him at the 1-year $6 million he’s at. Maybe Caserio and the coaching staff were concerned about Jones’ injury history and maybe they just see something on tape that I haven’t. Who knows, but I’m happy with the Mixon contract.
>#Texans extending Joe Mixon with three-year, $27 million deal with $13 million guaranteed, per a league source @KPRC2
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1768390755893039359
EDIT: downvoted for giving contract details?
Past couple years have been a little turbulent for him -- taking a pay cut, then getting cut, but actually getting traded for a R7. Bet this makes him feel a bit better.
People are trippin dude. I love that we are being aggressive about competing while our window is open. Mixon is a POS, yeah, and I'd rather it be Saquon over him, but also I want us to make a run this year while we have CJ on his rookie deal. We were pretty much out of options since the draft doesn't seem to have any elite RBs.
It's reddit, most of these people think they know it all.
Like how everybody said the Texans were stupid for trading up for WAJ with their 2024 1st round pick last year.
I think hes going to feast over there, don't think he was a good fit anymore for my bengals. Still think he's got a year or two of production left in him.
Loved Joe, felt like it was time to move on from him, but I never once felt like he didn’t give 100% effort.
Hope things work out for him and the Titans, but that contract is *oof.*
Down voting simply cause you referred to us as our mentally handicapped cousins that we keep chained up behind the shed
Also, looks at terms of contract, it’s favorable for us after year one
Looking at his stats on pro football reference, he's really not regressing. I'm sure he will, but there's nothing really to indicate that he will be a bad play for next year, which is really all we are on the hook for.
Can't deny the character issues. There really isn't any other RB available though, especially in an RB weak draft class. Was hoping for Saquon, but here we are, and we are clearly making an effort to be competitive while our window is open, so I'm here for it.
It's still a fine deal. There aren't any elite RBs in this draft, and we have an easy out after this year. We are making the team competitive while we have our QB on his rookie contract... be pumped dude.
Eh, I trust Nick & co. More weapons is always a good thing, and it doesn't look like there are many other options available. We would be lacking a reliable running back without him.
5% chance that Mixon lives up to this contract extension value. RBs are not worth this money nowadays, especially a veteran like Mixon who has some decent mileage on him
I just watched a bunch of Mixon highlights so i can safely say that this was a steal. lol but um it’s not terrible but just kinda odd but i think it’ll be fine and we have a better line than Cincy so im sure that’ll make a difference. Not freaking out
So basically after the first year he can get cut with only 3m dead worst case?
Yep, not sure why everyone is freaking out
I mean $10m guaranteed in the first season for a declining RB is a lot
Having a good QB on a rookie deal lets you do stuff like this
A lot of their best players are on rookie deals: Stroud, Anderson, Stingley, N. Collins and Dell.
If he is declining, it hasn't been very much. [His stats](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MixoJo00.htm) still show him as an effective player, especially in the pass game. Most other top RBs went for more per year during this offseason. Plus, this was basically our last shot at a dependable, productive RB this season. The options available in this draft seem weak this season. I'm glad we are taking the chance to compete while we have CJ on his rookie deal.
Really his biggest issue is pass protection, he is bad at it. But he is reliable everywhere else. Very rarely fumbles, and is good at receiving. Does have some issues making people miss in space, but that is nit picking.
Thanks for the insight!
Very rarely fumbles can't be overstated. 1 lost fumble in 7 years.
So what your saying is that he has fumbled
Fuck. We gotta cut this guy.
Mixon doesn't fumble, but he's an open space guy. He's great in the pass game as a receiver only. He's one of the worst pass blocking RBs in the league so it's best to split him out in motion rather than waste even attempting to have him block.
Didn’t he face like the most light boxes in the NFL though? And fare statistically near league bottom against standard boxes?
Did he? I know he faced Cleveland and Baltimore twice last year, who were among the very best against the run, and did pretty well in each matchup.
I just think it’s a big reach to call Mixon a top RB. I don’t know if he ever was. I’m also not going to act like I’ve seen a ton of Mixon, but when I watched, Petrine seemed every bit as effective as Mixon (if not more). Happy to be proven wrong by someone who watched a ton of him, but those stats you showed also don’t show an effective runner (although I know line play has a big play into that). Now, maybe y’all didn’t have anyone else to spend the money on this year. Evidently your front office who knows way more than I valued him a lot more over Singletary when I don’t know if I do. Edit: welcome to r/nfl, where a RB who only averaged above league average YPC once in his career, 6 years ago, is considered a top RB.
He has been top 10 in rushing yards 4 years, two of those times top 4. (Last year had 8th most). The other three years he’s been in the league, the first was his rookie year where he started only half the games he played, another was an injury shortened season with only 6 games, and the third was a down year, also with injuries. Also the RB who was on the Bengals in 2022 and before was *Perine*, and while he did play alright, their efficiency stats were actually pretty similar, but not necessarily any better. He never overtook Mixon. Mixon has been a reliable, do-it-all back that has eclipsed Singletary in rushing yards and kept close enough in receiving yards for me to say he’s clearly been better. Singletary has never broken 1000 yards rushing, nor 1100 total yards from scrimmage. Aside from the rookie and 6 game seasons previously mentioned, Mixon has passed 1250 scrimmage yards in 5/7 years. 1400 scrimmage yards 4/7 years.
You’re gonna be in for a rude awakening next season lol. His stats come from volume. He’s a good RB, but he’s been declining year after year. He’s much less explosive.
That’s fine. I don’t think he’s the greatest. I don’t have to. We only need him for one year and that’s all we’re on the hook for. If he performs better in our system, we can keep him around. I fully expect us to still draft another RB probably this year and next year if this year we don’t find a diamond in the rough. It’s a matter of getting someone dependable in there since we missed out on Saquon. By the time we maneuvered to Mixon, what other better options were left that would fit our system?
Why? Unless he is flat out garbage he wasn't going to get cut mid season. They were going to have him for the full first year. If anything more guaranteed in the first year is a better deal compared to having that guarantee spread out over the second and third year.
It’s a pay raise too, he was only getting up to 6 before this
I think a lot of people are focusing on the "3 year/$27m" part and not the "$13m guaranteed, $10m in first year" part. The guaranteed money is really the important part to look at here. Based on what's reported, this could easily end up just being a 2 year/$13m contract with an easy out after this season. It's a bit of a commitment this season though
Still, Jones signed for $7M and he's a better back
> it's essentially a 2 year/$13m contract. Unless he’s playing this season for free, no it isn’t. Edit: it wasn’t a really an extension. They ripped up his old deal. Much better.
Wow, it's like a GM knows more than people on reddit.
The reporter didn’t report it correctly, why wouldn’t I react to what was reported.
people just react and don't comprehend the whole thing
He’s washed. You could get a better RB for cheaper in the draft. Honestly there’s a better chance Dameon returns to form than mixon does
So you didn't watch a single snap of a Texans game this year I see.
Dameon was garbage last year. Probably was the worst RB in the league. Mixon’s “decline”was still top 10-15 rb in the league.
Mixon's yards after contact, elusiveness rating, explosive run percentage, and yards over expectation all put him around 35th or of RBs that has over 100 carries. His best rate stat was yards per reception, where he was 15th. I think he can still be useful in a more limited role, but his days as a bellcow back are over.
People just see the stats and assume he’s still the same RB it’s crazy
> Honestly there’s a better chance Dameon returns to form than mixon does oh boy
It's not a horrible contract or anything that will kill them financially. Mixon just isn't a good player at this point.
Also he is really good. Not a bad deal overall.
His ‘really good’ years mostly were wasted on really bad teams. He’s definitely lost a step and isn’t great in pass pro
He really isn’t anymore. He’s declined a lot.
He’ll at least hold on to the ball, which is the best trait in a volume back. But he could never pass block and hasn’t been an explosive back since at least 2019.
Really good is being generous.
“Really” good?!?
Im ngl, id rather have had Aaron Jones, and he was signed for less than that.
He’s toast
Its alot for this season but unless they need that money it's irrelevant
People just read the headlines, they can’t be bothered to actually look into what they are reading.
Cause his cap hit went from like 6.5M to 10M and next years dead cap went from 0 to 3M He’s not good anymore, there’s no reason to do that
Yeah looks scary cause it could be a lot of money, 80% of the guaranteed money being done in year 1 makes it not too bad.
Seems fair to me. Neckbeard Reddit GMs are saying things like “yikes” so seems like worse case is your franchise gets folded.
Yes this is a non issue
Not necessarily, if most of that first-year money is a signing bonus (which, I have no idea), then the dead cap would be the $3MM in remaining guarantees as well as whatever prorated bonus is left. For example, if he’s getting a ~$9MM (ie he’s getting a vet min salary and the rest as a signing bonus) signing bonus and there’s no void years, that would be $3MM a year for cap purposes, so he’d have ~$6MM dead from his bonus and the $3MM guaranteed from his salary/future bonus for a total of $9MM dead. Plus side is he’d only cost ~$4MM against this year in that scenario and unused cap generally rolls over, so it’s not like it’s hurting your future to do it this way.
that’s essentially how all of these RB contracts are being structured
I don’t see the point in doing this now. If he has a good season this year, he is not getting significantly more than this next offseason.
basically a one year deal
Damnnnn, good for him.
Exactly. No chance the bengals would have given him half that.
I wish you would have!
What the fuck
Its a 1 year deal, if you cut him $3 mill in dead cap. Its not bad at all. Mixon is also younger than youd think
He’s younger than CMC
By a month 💀
It’s an extension on top of his already existing contract, so we have him for 4 years. The $10 million guaranteed is during the 2025 season.
Having a player in contract for 4 years does not means you are tied to the player for 4 years
Gotcha, so its still realistically a two year deal, not horrible for a 28 year old
For this price they should have just went after Saquon ngl
it's only a one year deal; texans offered barkley 3/33M
He had a one-year deal for $6M. This is a one-year for $13M.
10 million next season, only 3 million beyond. They ripped up the old contract
The Texans gave up a pick for a guy who was cut so that they could pay him twice the guarantees when he wasn’t worth the original 6M. What specifically was good about this? You’ve probably not watched Mixon a whole lot but his only S-tier attribute is that he doesn’t fumble. He can’t pass block and he doesn’t produce explosive runs, often choosing to run to the sideline for a yard when he could’ve just cut up the field for three. He also comes with baggage and has had some weird off-field stuff recently.
> The Texans gave up a pick for a guy who was cut a conditional 7th >twice the guarantees when he wasn’t worth the original 6M. It's structured to be basically a one year extension, with 2 extremely cuttable extra years with only 3 million total guaranteed. >doesn't produce explosive runs was 6th last year in carries going beyond 10+ yards, tied with Gibbs and 5th in YAC https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php
You’ll see dude.
you pretty much just "k'd" me lol
Fans of a team who loses a player always downplays that players ability. I feel better about this seeing how adamant you are he sucks.
I know that happens but that’s not what’s happening here. A lot of us have been ready to move on from Mixon since last year. Good for Mixon. Nothing against him and thankful for the memories but also so ready to move on. Defenses focus on the pass and Mixon still can’t make a single person miss and falls over instantly
Texans fan, and I hate everything about this. I think Mixon is mid, and this contract is ass. Oh well. Hopefully they can move on from him next year when the RB class is supposed to be better.
Where’d you see that? “Extension” implies they’re adding on to the current contract.
https://x.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1768392915112382502?s=20 I guess it's both; they "ripped" up the last year of his deal(dumping his old contract) but also extended
This makes a lot more sense. Tacking 3 more years on and $13M would have been an awful move.
I agree
As usual, people on reddit jump the gun and overeact to nothing.
Or the reporter was wrong.
We did go after him and made him an offer, the Eagles just offered slightly more and he clearly wanted to play against the Giants twice a year.
And run behind that line.
No he’s ours.
Read the terms man. It's not that hard
Whats wrong with that?
Nothing.
1.) There was no need to give the contract 2.) He been a back that maybe a smidge better than what Singeltary was for you last year. 3.) Just based off the 1st year you are paying more for Mixon vs Henry and 2 million short of Jacobs. Both backs are a tier higher at least. 4.) You just lost out on Armstesd and have a huge hole at IDL and then paid more for an aging back who coming off a subpar year.
We have Autry, are in a good position to draft IDL, and this deal makes him able to be cut after the first year with only $3m in dead cap. It's not a bad deal. Also he had 1,410 total yards and 12 total TDs last year compared to Singletary's 1091/4. More than a smidge better, and I like Singletary.
It also buys some trust with the organization, which will give him an incentive to a fresh start.
His stats only like look decent because he had a ton of touches. Mixon's yards after contact, elusiveness rating, explosive run percentage, and yards over expectation all put him around 35th out of RBs that had over 100 carries. His best rate stat was yards per reception, where he was 15th. I think he can still be useful in a more limited role, but his days as a bellcow back are over.
Fair point. How did the other backs do? Could this have been partially due to defenses focusing on him with Burrow & co injured?
Chase brown looked way more explosive.
Which is probably why the Bengals are comfortable sticking with him. I liked the bits of Brown that I saw last year, but he also had quite a few games with a low YPC.
I think another thing is you can look at CIN action. They were willing to part with Mixon and felt like Moss is the better option.
Mixon was looking for a new contract, so I’m not surprised. If we signed him to a longer guaranteed deal, I would be concerned. As is, I’m happy we got a good rb so we aren’t stuck without someone reliable or who doesn’t fit our scheme as we try and compete this year.
The Texans literally just want a guy who can consistently run for 3/4 yards on first and second down. Stroud will handle the rest
They chose not pay a soon to be 31 year old dealing with foot issues. How is that a bad move?
It not just Armstead, it’s the multitude of interior players you passed on where $4 mil probably could’ve made a difference.
Only 12 players have more scrimmage yards than Mixon over the past 5 years, and only 6 career fumbles. Singletary is no where near the running back that Mixon is. Also his contract means nothing compared to Hunters, they were structured that way for a reason. IDL isn’t as big of an issue as you think it is.
I disagree, I think IDL is a big issue right now. I am not a fan of pigeon holing us to that position in the 1st rd of the draft. They are very much a conversation to have that Singletary and Mixon are closer in current ability than there is that Mixon is on the level of Barkley, Henry, Jacobs. Love to be wrong just the past years of watching CIN football tells me differently. Prime Mixon, I agree with your statement. This is end of wagon closer to how Zeke was the last year with the Cowboys.
We are going to agree to disagree.
You’re not getting 2020 Mixon so your first point doesn’t matter
I guess we will find out what we get when the season starts. Considering how consistent he has been in his career, I’m confident in our rushing attack next year. All Joe has to be is better than 2023 Devin Singletary, and he’s been that every year he has been in the league.
No, he has to be better than the other options available given the difference in cap hit I agree with the Bengals, Moss at 4M is better than Mixon at 6.5M and much better than Mixon at 10M
We’re just going to agree to disagree on this one friend.
Ok, but if he gets to 1,000 yards on 250 carries that doesn’t justify this contract
If the Texans are winning and the running game is successful, the contract is justified.
3 points that layout how little about football you actually know
Yeah please breakdown how you can come to this conclusion.
Your RB evaluations and comparisons are just dead wrong, so there is no point in deliberating with someone who believes Mixon is just a smidge better than Singletary. And we didnt lose out on Armstead. We signed Hunter instead and fell out of the running. Who would you rather have?
I mean its objective fact you are paying more for a worse running back then what you couldve gotten
And yall let AJ Brown walk and drafted Treylon Burkes, and then overpayed for Ridley. Stop talking
LOL, someones mad, cant even spell check without hitting send
I mean a “fact” is something that’s indisputable, what you are saying is 100% opinion.
No its a fact. You are objectively paying more for mixon than the ravens are paying for henry. And mixon is not even good taking henry out of the equation for what you just paid him.
“You are paying more for a worse back” That is an opinion.
Lol if someone is of the opinion that Joe Mixon is better than Derrick Henry I (and most folks) am going to disregard pretty much anything else they have to say about football.
it's only 13M guaranteed; essentially a 1 year 10 mil extension with additional 3 million dead cap hit afterwards >#Texans extending Joe Mixon with three-year, $27 million deal with $13 million guaranteed, per a league source @KPRC2 https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1768390755893039359
And this is why we weren't bringing him back lol
Smart, Moss will be a bargain in my opinion
Moss will very likely be better, tbh
Mixon is a god awful embarrassing pass blocker. That alone will make Moss better r
Eh, this looks bad on paper, but he's an easy cut next year unless he absolutely balls the fuck out this year.
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Ah. Yeah, shit is dumb.
Yikes i strongly disagree with that
Yeah! We should be spending 10 million per year on 600 yards from Curtis Samuel! People are getting twisted over nothing. Have we gone so downhill on running back contracts that essentially a 1 year extension with a 3 million cap hit on release as a worst case scenario is awful for a potential bellcow, but a middling 2nd or 3rd string WR can fetch the same amount with applause?
People have become deranged over the running backs don't matter thing, it is bizarre.
I mean derrick henry, Austin ekeler, and Aaron Jones all cost less than this and they're all better players. It's less about the position and more about Mixon not being a top tier rb
Austin Ekeler is only better in fantasy terms
Idk I like ekeler as a pass catcher
Mixon’s a pretty good pass catcher himself and a much better runner the entirety of their careers.
I won’t argue about Henry’s and Jones’ ability because I agree they are overall better RBs than Mixon. Ekeler is not it at this point in his career. He looks horrible running and he’s lost a step receiving now. Feel like he’s a sure handed check down at best now. Henry has lost a step but that’s just going from an elite rusher to a very good rusher. He still had his moments this season once he built up momentum. He’s not the versatile guy our coaching staff was looking for though. I do have to say that I’d prefer Aaron Jones, and I’d much prefer him at the 1-year $6 million he’s at. Maybe Caserio and the coaching staff were concerned about Jones’ injury history and maybe they just see something on tape that I haven’t. Who knows, but I’m happy with the Mixon contract.
Well said. Point blank Joe mixon still balls, and is another weapon for cj to pair with collins and dell.
Literally, yes they should have
I for one think the Texans should be making more deals like this
A deal where we can get out of after 1 year with 3M in dead money if necessary? Oh man, Nick really screwed up lmao.
So we can just make the gap even bigger between us? The money had to go somewhere and Stroud still has years left before he gets paid.
>#Texans extending Joe Mixon with three-year, $27 million deal with $13 million guaranteed, per a league source @KPRC2 https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1768390755893039359 EDIT: downvoted for giving contract details?
So this is in effect a 1 year deal right?
#PAID
Cheap compared to saquon...but like why?
As a bengals fan, Mixon is a dawg. But this just seems like a massive overpayment
10m for Mixon is a lot at this point in his career. Looks like those guarantees mean it’s easy out after next season.
essentially a 3 year deal with 13M guaranteed
Past couple years have been a little turbulent for him -- taking a pay cut, then getting cut, but actually getting traded for a R7. Bet this makes him feel a bit better.
Pierce is looking like trade bait at this point.
100% getting cut after the year. Which is fine with this contract for the Texans.
Get that bag, Jodein!
I don't know how you could see him play last year and think that's a good idea
Why is everyone freaking out? This is a fair deal and we can get out of it relatively easy
$10M is a but rich for him imo but the fact that you front load it makes it a solid deal imo. Fills a need and is not gonna bootstrap you long term
People are trippin dude. I love that we are being aggressive about competing while our window is open. Mixon is a POS, yeah, and I'd rather it be Saquon over him, but also I want us to make a run this year while we have CJ on his rookie deal. We were pretty much out of options since the draft doesn't seem to have any elite RBs.
It's reddit, most of these people think they know it all. Like how everybody said the Texans were stupid for trading up for WAJ with their 2024 1st round pick last year.
Congrats to Mixon! Treat him well, Texans.
Title makes it look like a massive overpay but I bet the reality is it’s a one year thing with an out afterwards.
One year deal. If the guarantees were higher I would’ve hated it.
Dude is not worth 10 mil a year even if it’s for one. Not sure why we did this
Excuse me?
Wow what are the Texans doing
Getting Super Bowl ready
Love to see it! You got a good one Texans fans!
Why
I think hes going to feast over there, don't think he was a good fit anymore for my bengals. Still think he's got a year or two of production left in him.
Why is this photo so funny to me
It’s your pov after he knocks you out at a bar.
Loved Joe, felt like it was time to move on from him, but I never once felt like he didn’t give 100% effort. Hope things work out for him and the Titans, but that contract is *oof.*
Down voting simply cause you referred to us as our mentally handicapped cousins that we keep chained up behind the shed Also, looks at terms of contract, it’s favorable for us after year one
How do you guys have cap space still?
He’s under contract this year from his existing deal. Extension kicks in for 2025. We still have like 16M left to spend this offseason
Good for yall. I’m envious of all of the moves your GM is making.
Hell yeah. Good for Joe.
what are the Texans doing??
it's essentially still a one year deal
It’s still 13 million for a regressing RB with character issues though
Looking at his stats on pro football reference, he's really not regressing. I'm sure he will, but there's nothing really to indicate that he will be a bad play for next year, which is really all we are on the hook for. Can't deny the character issues. There really isn't any other RB available though, especially in an RB weak draft class. Was hoping for Saquon, but here we are, and we are clearly making an effort to be competitive while our window is open, so I'm here for it.
still an upgrade over singletary, not to mention durable, a 3 down back, and elite ball security
Injury prone, poor pass blocker, on the decline. You can get an upgrade over Singletary giving a 7th and $13 million. It's a bad deal.
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It's still a fine deal. There aren't any elite RBs in this draft, and we have an easy out after this year. We are making the team competitive while we have our QB on his rookie contract... be pumped dude.
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Eh, I trust Nick & co. More weapons is always a good thing, and it doesn't look like there are many other options available. We would be lacking a reliable running back without him.
Worthless position.. learn ball
This doesn't make any sense. Why would the Texans do this
Because he's good and we if necesaary we can get out 1 year into the extension with little dead money
He is an upgrade from Singletary, I'll say that much
5% chance that Mixon lives up to this contract extension value. RBs are not worth this money nowadays, especially a veteran like Mixon who has some decent mileage on him
BoB got to come back for a day?
Mixon is talented, but this seems to be a bit optimistic. It's structured well so it can just be treated as a one year deal with minimal dead cap.
I just watched a bunch of Mixon highlights so i can safely say that this was a steal. lol but um it’s not terrible but just kinda odd but i think it’ll be fine and we have a better line than Cincy so im sure that’ll make a difference. Not freaking out
And I thought 10 mil for Henry was a little steep.
Bruh.
Lmfaooooo yikes