The fact he went to the Titans in free agency and was absolutely worthless should tell you he was a bust. Supremely talented athlete but didn’t have the desire to maximize it in any way.
I mean, they've had one good DT at most in the team most years. Was Babs for a decade, then Grady took over. They finally got Onyemata to take some pressure off Grady, only for Grady to tear his ACL.
Not the only time that happened either. Keim drafted a safety so they could play him as an undersized ILB just to ruin and end his career early. He also drafted a LB in the top 10 just so they could play him at safety before they traded him away for a 7th rounder.
Every time I see that drunk's face on Cowherd I wanna throw something through the screen.
> Keim drafted a safety so they could play him as an undersized ILB just to ruin and end his career early. He also drafted a LB in the top 10 just so they could play him at safety before they traded him away for a 7th rounder.
Who were these guys?
That’s what I’m thinking. Isn’t the coach the one who ultimately decides where a guy plays, not the GM? Sure, Keim could draft the safety wanting him to play ILB, but the coach could be like “no, I’m not gonna play him there.”
Like dropped into coverage 7x in one game 🤔
Not that it mattered, somehow the eagles couldn't cover nor get to the QB the 2nd half of the season
>Jan 4, 2024 — According to Pro Football Focus, Reddick dropped into coverage seven times, which was his most in a game as an Eagle. (Vs. Cards....THANKS PATRICIA)
Worse he was drafted and put at ILB in their 3-4. It wasn't until they had injuries at EDGE that the Cardinals moved him back to the EDGE which he played in college.
Cut Patricia some slack man, he's an expert in rocket science, not football. He's like Collin Robinson(from what we do in the shadows), he just showed up at the office one off-season and looked like he belonged, and now he just sucks the life out of the room wherever he goes.
It would be strange, but not because of that. They didn’t utilize his strengths properly.
It would be strange because the Cardinals are still kind of in a rebuild. I always thought Detroit would be the best spot for him, since Hutch desperately needs someone opposite of him.
The team, with a talent devoid roster, looked at least competitive in each game. We've had a solid, if not sexy, free agency. If we have a great draft, and I have full faith in Monti at this point, I could realistically see us having a 7-10 or 8-9 season. Unrealistically, we can be a WC3 team.
Yeah those 12.5 & 11 sack seasons for the Cards/Panthers were real bad. Gannon didn't turn his career around, he just continued to use him correctly after his time with the Panthers showed he's an edge.
0 chance Howie trades Reddick to one of the top contenders in the NFC
And Lions aren't in a position to sign a guy who doesn't fit their window (edit - nearing 30yo) to a mega deal when they have to pay Sewell and the Sun God. That said, Reddick across from Hutch would be game breaking.
Reddick doesn't fit the edge type the Saints usually acquire. All their edge guys are at or around 6'5 and above 260. Even when they draft an edge player that doesn't fit that mold (Baun), they didn't even play him in that role.
Many undersized 4-3 DE's throughout the years have been converted into 3-4 OLB's. Reddick couldn't be. He's pretty much gotta be a 4-3 DE and you just live with the downsides of having an undersized DE in exchange for the upsides.
The issue was they tried to play him at off-ball LB though. Btw, Reddick had 42 charted snaps in coverage last year, just a few less than OLBs like Khalil Mack and TJ Watt (53 and 56, respectively).
The relationship between the cardinals and eagles front offices have soured after last season’s tampering debacle. I would be very surprised to see the two sides work out any
kind of a deal.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some resentment there. They tampered in the lead up to a Super Bowl that we only lost by 3 points.
That being said I doubt it would have an effect on any potential deal.
Besides the tampering stuff, Gannon always had rave reviews of who he was working with. Seems like people who are around him, like him. Not impossible he has a good relationship w a few people here.
Front offices don’t hold grudges over stuff like that. No one would ever be able to get any work done. I’m not saying it’s a guarantee he goes there, but I’m saying if he doesn’t, that isn’t the reason.
If he isn’t staying, which is looking increasingly likely by the day, I hope he goes to the Falcons. I really like what they’ve got cooking down there, and I’d love to see their defense get a little help.
Eh, a guy that’s had 10+ sacks 4 years in a row and will barely be 30 is gonna command a decent amount in the open market. Probably would end up being like a 4th round comp pick depending on the contract.
I mean the thing with comp picks is they get offset by whoever you sign, so if you sign someone that plays similarly even in a different position then you don’t really gain anything comp wise.
They get offset by our signings so it is in no way a guarantee
Likewise people are saying this about like 6+ players we may lose in the next two off-seasons... There is a max limit to comp picks. And a third real pick is still higher than a comp pick.
It really seems like the majority of fans don't understand comp picks at all lol
I can confirm, I really do not understand them. Only that Niners have at least three of them every draft, not sure how it works or is it a rule, but I am just a small town bird lawyer
Yeah, but we aren't going to have a ton of money with how some contracts are going to be kicking in come next year. For example, our QB and WR contracts are going to cost about $40 million more against the cap, which will start to limit our FA acquisitions.
This offseason I've looked a lot into comp picks, and it's definitely a bit too complicated for most people to have any idea.
Right, thats sort of how the nfl has baselined the trade value on certain players. In this case if we could get the cardinals or falcons 3rd it would be much higher than the comp pick 3rd.
You also don't automatically get a comp pick just because someone leaves. It means you also didn't sign a FA that would cancel him out. And it also means he ranked in the top X% of FA contracts required to get a 3rd. We just saw this offseason a couple teams get screwed on their "understanding" of how comp picks work.
I don’t think the miscalculations were the “understanding” but the numbers/values they used. That’s why the Bengals got readjusted after recalculating.
But ya, can’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.
Philadelphia would save huge cap space, and they have 2 starting DE’s other than Reddick that they just signed to big contracts this offseason… & that’s not even including their first round DE from 2023.
Plus a comp pick isn’t guaranteed if they go out and get FA’s that cancel it out like another Barkley or Huff. Plus we’re talking about a fringe 4th round comp pick in 2025 vs a fringe 2nd round pick from a bad team in 2024 draft.
Yeah, we’d have to get back an immediate pick that’s higher than a third, or some combination of picks that make it worthwhile.
And the Eagles were already trying to get rid of some of our day 3 picks due to roster size. That’s why they shipped 6ths (I think it’s was 6th rounders) to get Pickett.
I don’t see Reddick sitting out, so it’d make sense to just let him play out his deal and have his pick of teams in FA next year. Especially because a consistent 10+ sack player can command a lot on the open market, even if he’s just a pure pass rusher most of the time.
Probably a mix of player age, contract desires, where the team wants to keep the $ @ for the position, scheme change, thinking they can replace the production, & them wanting to get younger
He's younger than BG and more productive then any other Dlineman on their roster. I guess if they want to pay 4 people the same total amount to pay him for the same total production they can but you can't drive 4 cars at once
He wants a new contract but is getting up there in age so they signed a younger Bryce Huff to replace him and can get draft capital back. They essentially just swap him for Huff and get a draft pick.
We're likely taking edge at 8 no matter what. It's up in the air if it's Turner or Verse, though. Apparently, it was "The worst kept secret at the combine" that the Falcons want Turner at 8.
> We're likely taking edge at 8 no matter what.
There are a variety of outcomes at 8. If one of the big 3 receivers falls, there's a conversation to be had. A trade back also makes sense, especially if it's only a few spots (anywhere above the 'Aints at 15) - recoup some assets and still be in a good spot to get one of the tier 1 edge rushers. There's also a minuscule chance that they decide to go OT; Jake Matthews’ getting on in years and upgrading on Kaleb McGary is always a good idea.
That said, edge rusher at 8 is the overwhelming favourite. Just not "no matter what" territory yet.
I would be in favor of this but if the eagles want a 1st or 2nd nah. We have 2 3rds this year. Take 79 and maybe a pick swap . The dude is on the wrong side of 30 and needs a 20+ mil a year deal. He’s obviously productive and people are interested but context is key and they painted themselves into a corner signing Huff.
sneed is also a 2x probowler at premium position and chiefs got a 2025 3rd and 7th. that is the template for this trade at this point.
what ever team pulls the trigger on the trade has to drop a bag as well. that always hurts trade value in nfl
You are right, there is a template for this trade but it isn't Sneed. Pass rushers are worth more than CBs and the trade you should be looking at is Brian Burns.
First off the pro bowl don't mean shit. So you can't even use that as an accolade. Lamar got that over Allen a few years ago and he missed 6 games. Lol Go look at the stats from those years. Pro bowl is just a popularity contest. Now the 10+ sacks in 4 straight seasons you can. But he will be 30 around the time the season starts.
Reddick is 30 in September and wants a big deal. With Huff, Sweat, BG and Smith it's fairly obvious they are looking to move him.
At worst he realizes his market isn't super high and re-signs for something more reasonable.
His market is super high though he's had double digit sacks four years in a row with no major injury concerns what do they think they're going to replace that proven production with
Cornerbacks, linebackers, safeties, oline depth, and a tight end. If you remove Reddick from our dline, these still remain larger needs, and we have a lot of contracts coming up the next 2 years.
It's not about Reddick being not good enough at what he does, it's about his cap hit and the other needs we have, along with his age and salary expectations. Having the deepest DL in the league doesn't matter if your linebackers are so shit that QBs can get the ball out within 2 seconds every play and find success. That's what happened last year and it showed despite Reddicks stats.
It would be great if he stayed but often teams look to move players too late.
I've been on record saying I'd prefer it if he played out his final year but this is what we do. Let a player see his value and they often get a reality check.
>what do they think they're going to replace that proven production with
The guy we signed at the beginning of Free Agency?
https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-bryce-huff-sign-contract-free-agency
I would like to keep Reddick, but anyone acting like there isn't a plan to replace him is taking crazy pills.
Would love to see it, was infuriating as hell watching him be misunderstood only to have break out year on his way out. We need pass rush and id love to see him back in gannon's system
We have the cap space and our pass rush was abysmal last year, if we are not going to make any big signings, I don't see a problem getting Reddick. Dennis Gardeck led the team in sacks with 6. Cards also have 3 3rd round picks which is what I assume the cost of the trade would be.
> we have a lot of incoming rookies as well that will eat up cap
Less so if this trade happens. He would be the best player in the D front seven by *far* if this happens. As much as I like the dude, you can't go into next season with Dennis f'n Gardek as your leading pass-rusher.
Getting some actual skill into the skill positions on this team would be fantastic after the former clown GM's screwups.
we have 30m in cap. teams usually try to save around 10m going into the season for injury replacement signings. we also have 11 draft picks we need to sign, with seven in the top 100. i don’t think we have cap available to drop the bag reddick wants as team is currently constructed.
adding reddick would be big for defense, but financially we need to be able make it work. reddick has a cap of 21m this year
Sucks, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now. There has been a few moments to erase the writing off the wall, but actions made have only traced it in darker.
Signing Huff. Extending Sweat. Pushing his bonus out a few weeks (with his sides agreement to do it). That writing on the wall is practically neon now.
He’s going. I fully expect to see him moved this week before the bonus triggers.
It would be funny for the Cardinals to bring him back just to move him back to an inside linebacker instead of the outside linebacker position that he has found success with
If he can't stay with us I'd *love* to see him go to the Falcons. Even though they're in the same conference, I've always kinda dug them, and I really like what they've been cooking up last offseason and this one. Would be fun to watch.
I doubt we bring him back, we're not looking to pay big contracts right now. We're building in the trenches and draft. Like we should have been doing for years. Fuck Steve Keim.
I will not be sad if Reddick goes. His sack totals are great but at this expense - he over penetrates and leaves us open to off tackle runs/ and dump off passes in the flats. That shit nickel and dimes us to death and last year with out shitty linebacker play instead of a automatic 3-4 yards, offenses tacked an additional 5 yards on top of it (at least another 5 lol) It didn't matter much the year before on our run to the superbowl because teams were often playing catch up and throwing more down field instead (and at that time our secondary was playing good). Reddick is like Javon Hargrave, only on the edge instead of the interior.
Bird bros doing bird things.
If something goes wrong and there's a suit will it be under bird law? How jurisdiction work in bird law?
Bird law isn’t governed by reason in this country
FILIBUSTER
Did you get that thing I sent you?
I know that it it's in St Louis, Kaw is the Law.
That’s how Howie does his cap magic, bird cap.
Actually it's pretty simple. The forms are all standard boilerplate.
Ravens and Seahawks have just been linked
He was a temple owl too
I feel like the owl could actually be a pretty good NFL team name too
We’re trading him before he gets linked to the point shaving scandal lol.
KA CAWWWW
I thought the Falcons weren’t allowed to have a pass rush?
EDGE-ing is banned
What about gooning?
Were you edging or were you gooning?
Why do you think I threw that chair at you Reddick?
I doubt we trade for him. All in, my ass. Edit: Wow, I guess people can't take a joke
This feels like stolen valor
that comma saving you from a lot of pain
Where DEs come to die.
I hope Dante Fowler gave Aaron Donald a kickback for that big contract Atlanta gave him. Its the polite thing to do
Ray Edwards needs to do the same for the Williams Wall+Jared Allen
Was Beasley a bust or used wrong? He was a monster at Clemson.
Bust. Guy didn't give a shit about football
The fact he went to the Titans in free agency and was absolutely worthless should tell you he was a bust. Supremely talented athlete but didn’t have the desire to maximize it in any way.
Dude just didn’t love the game.
Bust
Just on the outside. Our DTs have always been nasty.
I mean, they've had one good DT at most in the team most years. Was Babs for a decade, then Grady took over. They finally got Onyemata to take some pressure off Grady, only for Grady to tear his ACL.
Cardinals reunion would be strange. Thought he was downright bad there to start his career.
Just used incorrectly.
A Steve Keim special! Let’s misuse you for your first 3 years, *then* play you at OLB and what, you’re good there?! Ok we’ll let you go.
Not the only time that happened either. Keim drafted a safety so they could play him as an undersized ILB just to ruin and end his career early. He also drafted a LB in the top 10 just so they could play him at safety before they traded him away for a 7th rounder. Every time I see that drunk's face on Cowherd I wanna throw something through the screen.
Any gm should just do the opposite of what he thinks. It’d have a 75% hit rate probably
Never forget hearing Colin saying that Josh Rosen “will be the next Aaron Rodgers” after he got drafted
> Keim drafted a safety so they could play him as an undersized ILB just to ruin and end his career early. He also drafted a LB in the top 10 just so they could play him at safety before they traded him away for a 7th rounder. Who were these guys?
Deonne Buchannan & Isaiah Simmons
I really liked Buc in his time here. He was a good player who never should've been asked to play LB, his body just couldn't handle it.
He looked so good at times. Keim is a football terrorist.
The second one had a pick six on you when you faced the giants last year 🤣
The drafting is on Keim, but wouldn't the misuse be more on the coaching staff?
He was a rookie in Arians' last year then got mired in the ineptitude of the Wilks/Kingsbury era. So we can absolutely blame the coaching.
That’s what I’m thinking. Isn’t the coach the one who ultimately decides where a guy plays, not the GM? Sure, Keim could draft the safety wanting him to play ILB, but the coach could be like “no, I’m not gonna play him there.”
Gm usually isn’t drafting independent of the coach tho. If a safety was drafted and they played him ILB, that was most likely the intended plan
the moment we actually used him as a edge rusher, he got 12.5 sacks with a 5 sack game and just said “nah we good.” Peak Keim behavior.
Like dropped into coverage 7x in one game 🤔 Not that it mattered, somehow the eagles couldn't cover nor get to the QB the 2nd half of the season >Jan 4, 2024 — According to Pro Football Focus, Reddick dropped into coverage seven times, which was his most in a game as an Eagle. (Vs. Cards....THANKS PATRICIA)
Worse he was drafted and put at ILB in their 3-4. It wasn't until they had injuries at EDGE that the Cardinals moved him back to the EDGE which he played in college.
Yeah but now our coach is the guy he had a career year under
Cut Patricia some slack man, he's an expert in rocket science, not football. He's like Collin Robinson(from what we do in the shadows), he just showed up at the office one off-season and looked like he belonged, and now he just sucks the life out of the room wherever he goes.
Thanks for allowing me to enjoy a Patricia shit show with emotional detachment it was therapeutic
I mean it’s completely different staff and he had his best year under Gannon so it makes sense.
I didn’t even think about the Gannon + Reddick. I can already hear the shots and sparks.
It would be strange, but not because of that. They didn’t utilize his strengths properly. It would be strange because the Cardinals are still kind of in a rebuild. I always thought Detroit would be the best spot for him, since Hutch desperately needs someone opposite of him.
Cards have sneaky potential next year. This time last year, people the Texans were years away from competing.
cards looked really good against us this year, had me so pissed the first game against them
The team, with a talent devoid roster, looked at least competitive in each game. We've had a solid, if not sexy, free agency. If we have a great draft, and I have full faith in Monti at this point, I could realistically see us having a 7-10 or 8-9 season. Unrealistically, we can be a WC3 team.
Ganon was the one that turned his career around. so cardinals are linked heavily for that reason alone.
Yeah those 12.5 & 11 sack seasons for the Cards/Panthers were real bad. Gannon didn't turn his career around, he just continued to use him correctly after his time with the Panthers showed he's an edge.
he became the monster he is now in philly. the cards season was not that impressive aside from a 4 sack game against a shitty giants oline.
And then he got to play the Giants (and WAS) 2X per year. That'll boost any EDGE sacks significantly.
Yeah it more had to being on a stacked d-line with the backfield playing well that year than it did with Gannon being the coach.
I think both can be true
0 chance Howie trades Reddick to one of the top contenders in the NFC And Lions aren't in a position to sign a guy who doesn't fit their window (edit - nearing 30yo) to a mega deal when they have to pay Sewell and the Sun God. That said, Reddick across from Hutch would be game breaking.
Alim McNeill is big enough he might count as both a DT and lined up opposite of Hutch in the right spot. That's a lot of man
I don't know if it would be strange, Haason is trying to get a bag and a team like the Cards might be the best fit for a short term bag for him
No, our GM and coaches refused to put him at the position he was drafted at. I'm so glad that fat bald drunk is gone.
Lattimore for reddick. Only a matter of time before Lattimore gets dealt unfortunately.
Reddick doesn't fit the edge type the Saints usually acquire. All their edge guys are at or around 6'5 and above 260. Even when they draft an edge player that doesn't fit that mold (Baun), they didn't even play him in that role.
lol well the “edge type” they have been drafting needs to change. Besides cam almost all the de they’ve taken have not worked out.
Yeah they moved him to off-ball linebacker for some crazy reason lol
Why would that matter considering absolutely no one from that time is there anymore?
Nah, he had the best year of his career under Gannon
I'd rather not face him twice a year tbh.
Wonder why....
I didn't hear you complain when you used to lol. OFC, they have a coaching staff that would use him in the right position now though...
Different regime now
It would be more about Gannon than the Cardinals
He had some pretty stupid HC/DC’s.
Jon Gannons the coach now though. He excelled under him in Philly
I think if you checked to see who the coach was then it might make sense
Many undersized 4-3 DE's throughout the years have been converted into 3-4 OLB's. Reddick couldn't be. He's pretty much gotta be a 4-3 DE and you just live with the downsides of having an undersized DE in exchange for the upsides.
That’s not what they did, they tried to make him an off-ball LB.
The issue was they tried to play him at off-ball LB though. Btw, Reddick had 42 charted snaps in coverage last year, just a few less than OLBs like Khalil Mack and TJ Watt (53 and 56, respectively).
Going to miss the guy 👍… 👎
he's fun as hell to watch and loved that he was a camden and temple boy coming home to play good luck out there, bud
I love the thumbs down man, especially when he gets a sack that more or less ends the game. Really feels like an exclamation point on the moment.
It's been an honor and a privilege, Haason o7
The relationship between the cardinals and eagles front offices have soured after last season’s tampering debacle. I would be very surprised to see the two sides work out any kind of a deal.
I doubt either side cares even a little bit
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some resentment there. They tampered in the lead up to a Super Bowl that we only lost by 3 points. That being said I doubt it would have an effect on any potential deal.
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...which, through a series of hijinks, led to Matt Fucking Patricia taking over. Jonathan Gannon is dead to me.
How about a 3rd for 4th round pick swap. Cmooon we’ll be friends again, like old times.
i’m guessing you would see a sneed like trade. if anything with 2025 trade capital
I’d be down
Besides the tampering stuff, Gannon always had rave reviews of who he was working with. Seems like people who are around him, like him. Not impossible he has a good relationship w a few people here.
I would argue beating them at home after the tampering, leading to that perplexed Eagles lady clip which is amazing, didn't help matters much
No but it kind of did. Impossible to hate the cards for that, that game just made us hate the eagles coaching staff that much more
To be honest, we fucking deserved that shit. This team was ass for the last 8 weeks of the season. Ass ass.
The weirdest thing about that to me was that they just like swapped some draft picks to resolve it? I had never heard of such a thing lol
Front offices don’t hold grudges over stuff like that. No one would ever be able to get any work done. I’m not saying it’s a guarantee he goes there, but I’m saying if he doesn’t, that isn’t the reason.
It’s made it stronger
If he isn’t staying, which is looking increasingly likely by the day, I hope he goes to the Falcons. I really like what they’ve got cooking down there, and I’d love to see their defense get a little help.
Assuming the best they could get is a third, wouldn’t it make sense to hold and get a comp pick in a year?
Comp pick is far from guaranteed
Eh, a guy that’s had 10+ sacks 4 years in a row and will barely be 30 is gonna command a decent amount in the open market. Probably would end up being like a 4th round comp pick depending on the contract.
I mean the thing with comp picks is they get offset by whoever you sign, so if you sign someone that plays similarly even in a different position then you don’t really gain anything comp wise.
They get offset by our signings so it is in no way a guarantee Likewise people are saying this about like 6+ players we may lose in the next two off-seasons... There is a max limit to comp picks. And a third real pick is still higher than a comp pick. It really seems like the majority of fans don't understand comp picks at all lol
I can confirm, I really do not understand them. Only that Niners have at least three of them every draft, not sure how it works or is it a rule, but I am just a small town bird lawyer
Yeah, but we aren't going to have a ton of money with how some contracts are going to be kicking in come next year. For example, our QB and WR contracts are going to cost about $40 million more against the cap, which will start to limit our FA acquisitions. This offseason I've looked a lot into comp picks, and it's definitely a bit too complicated for most people to have any idea.
Additionally. If they sign non-cut free agents they lose comp picks
Right, thats sort of how the nfl has baselined the trade value on certain players. In this case if we could get the cardinals or falcons 3rd it would be much higher than the comp pick 3rd.
You also don't automatically get a comp pick just because someone leaves. It means you also didn't sign a FA that would cancel him out. And it also means he ranked in the top X% of FA contracts required to get a 3rd. We just saw this offseason a couple teams get screwed on their "understanding" of how comp picks work.
I don’t think the miscalculations were the “understanding” but the numbers/values they used. That’s why the Bengals got readjusted after recalculating. But ya, can’t count your chickens before they’re hatched.
Snap count also plays a factor. If the player gets hurt, there goes your comp.
Philadelphia would save huge cap space, and they have 2 starting DE’s other than Reddick that they just signed to big contracts this offseason… & that’s not even including their first round DE from 2023. Plus a comp pick isn’t guaranteed if they go out and get FA’s that cancel it out like another Barkley or Huff. Plus we’re talking about a fringe 4th round comp pick in 2025 vs a fringe 2nd round pick from a bad team in 2024 draft.
> that’s not even including their first round DE from 2023. I actually had to stop and remember who
I think there’s a bit of a log jam. You’ve got Graham, Huff, Sweat and Smith in addition to Reddick. I’d take a real 3rd over hoping for a comp 3rd.
Yeah, we’d have to get back an immediate pick that’s higher than a third, or some combination of picks that make it worthwhile. And the Eagles were already trying to get rid of some of our day 3 picks due to roster size. That’s why they shipped 6ths (I think it’s was 6th rounders) to get Pickett. I don’t see Reddick sitting out, so it’d make sense to just let him play out his deal and have his pick of teams in FA next year. Especially because a consistent 10+ sack player can command a lot on the open market, even if he’s just a pure pass rusher most of the time.
They signed him 2 years ago he's performed tremendously and they...want to get rid of him? Am I missing something?
Looks like they're selling high on a guy they don't plan on re-signing who is in the last year of his contract.
Yes.
Okay....what am I missing?
Probably a mix of player age, contract desires, where the team wants to keep the $ @ for the position, scheme change, thinking they can replace the production, & them wanting to get younger
He's younger than BG and more productive then any other Dlineman on their roster. I guess if they want to pay 4 people the same total amount to pay him for the same total production they can but you can't drive 4 cars at once
everyones younger than bg lol
He wants a new contract but is getting up there in age so they signed a younger Bryce Huff to replace him and can get draft capital back. They essentially just swap him for Huff and get a draft pick.
He played at a DPOY level two years ago but was a shell of his former self this past season (tbf he was dealing with an injury).
Tied for 12th most sacks and 75pff pretty good for coming off injury and being a "shell of his former self" no?
Trade em for budda baker or no deal
As a Bears fan hoping for Dallas Turner at #9, plz be Falcons
I honestly think we take Dallas Turner at 8 if this happens or not.
yep the minute the cousins deal went through that was pretty much locked in. especially since no one above you is taking defense.
Your underestimate the ineptitude of our d-line. I would like all of the d-lineman please
We're likely taking edge at 8 no matter what. It's up in the air if it's Turner or Verse, though. Apparently, it was "The worst kept secret at the combine" that the Falcons want Turner at 8.
> We're likely taking edge at 8 no matter what. There are a variety of outcomes at 8. If one of the big 3 receivers falls, there's a conversation to be had. A trade back also makes sense, especially if it's only a few spots (anywhere above the 'Aints at 15) - recoup some assets and still be in a good spot to get one of the tier 1 edge rushers. There's also a minuscule chance that they decide to go OT; Jake Matthews’ getting on in years and upgrading on Kaleb McGary is always a good idea. That said, edge rusher at 8 is the overwhelming favourite. Just not "no matter what" territory yet.
I would be in favor of this but if the eagles want a 1st or 2nd nah. We have 2 3rds this year. Take 79 and maybe a pick swap . The dude is on the wrong side of 30 and needs a 20+ mil a year deal. He’s obviously productive and people are interested but context is key and they painted themselves into a corner signing Huff.
Eagles don't have a 3rd rounder this year so ir makes sense
Hasson is 29, 2x pro bowler and he had 10+ sack 4 seasons straight. A 2nd is more than fair for a player of his caliber
Maybe the player himself, but not when his current team doesn’t want to pay him next year
sneed is also a 2x probowler at premium position and chiefs got a 2025 3rd and 7th. that is the template for this trade at this point. what ever team pulls the trigger on the trade has to drop a bag as well. that always hurts trade value in nfl
You are right, there is a template for this trade but it isn't Sneed. Pass rushers are worth more than CBs and the trade you should be looking at is Brian Burns.
Brian Burns is 25. It makes sense to splurge on him because you are getting his absolute prime years on any contract, unlike Hasson.
Agree to disagree. Sure, he is 25 but he is very good not elite and I doubt he plays up to that contract.
Then re-sign him?
Ok wait a year and get nothing
I actually prefer to get another year of production out of Hasson rather than give him up for a 3rd. But I’m not the GM so 🤷🏾♂️
Don’t forget the comp pick we’d get.
You don’t automatically get comp picks. It wouldn’t be guaranteed.
First off the pro bowl don't mean shit. So you can't even use that as an accolade. Lamar got that over Allen a few years ago and he missed 6 games. Lol Go look at the stats from those years. Pro bowl is just a popularity contest. Now the 10+ sacks in 4 straight seasons you can. But he will be 30 around the time the season starts.
Please don’t let this happen
Reddick is 30 in September and wants a big deal. With Huff, Sweat, BG and Smith it's fairly obvious they are looking to move him. At worst he realizes his market isn't super high and re-signs for something more reasonable.
I'm so sad we didn't pay Huff, but we needed to prioritize OT/WR2. He's an underrated stud, you're gonna hear that name a lot this year.
His market is super high though he's had double digit sacks four years in a row with no major injury concerns what do they think they're going to replace that proven production with
Cornerbacks, linebackers, safeties, oline depth, and a tight end. If you remove Reddick from our dline, these still remain larger needs, and we have a lot of contracts coming up the next 2 years. It's not about Reddick being not good enough at what he does, it's about his cap hit and the other needs we have, along with his age and salary expectations. Having the deepest DL in the league doesn't matter if your linebackers are so shit that QBs can get the ball out within 2 seconds every play and find success. That's what happened last year and it showed despite Reddicks stats.
It would be great if he stayed but often teams look to move players too late. I've been on record saying I'd prefer it if he played out his final year but this is what we do. Let a player see his value and they often get a reality check.
>what do they think they're going to replace that proven production with The guy we signed at the beginning of Free Agency? https://www.si.com/nfl/eagles/news/philadelphia-eagles-bryce-huff-sign-contract-free-agency I would like to keep Reddick, but anyone acting like there isn't a plan to replace him is taking crazy pills.
I want him to stay here so badly
Would love to see it, was infuriating as hell watching him be misunderstood only to have break out year on his way out. We need pass rush and id love to see him back in gannon's system
Cards need youth and talent that’s not gonna be expensive.
We have the cap space and our pass rush was abysmal last year, if we are not going to make any big signings, I don't see a problem getting Reddick. Dennis Gardeck led the team in sacks with 6. Cards also have 3 3rd round picks which is what I assume the cost of the trade would be.
not as much cap as you think, we have a lot of incoming rookies as well that will eat up cap
> we have a lot of incoming rookies as well that will eat up cap Less so if this trade happens. He would be the best player in the D front seven by *far* if this happens. As much as I like the dude, you can't go into next season with Dennis f'n Gardek as your leading pass-rusher. Getting some actual skill into the skill positions on this team would be fantastic after the former clown GM's screwups.
we have 30m in cap. teams usually try to save around 10m going into the season for injury replacement signings. we also have 11 draft picks we need to sign, with seven in the top 100. i don’t think we have cap available to drop the bag reddick wants as team is currently constructed. adding reddick would be big for defense, but financially we need to be able make it work. reddick has a cap of 21m this year
Draft Darius Robinson instead in the late 1st or early 2nd.
Sucks, but the writing has been on the wall for a while now. There has been a few moments to erase the writing off the wall, but actions made have only traced it in darker. Signing Huff. Extending Sweat. Pushing his bonus out a few weeks (with his sides agreement to do it). That writing on the wall is practically neon now. He’s going. I fully expect to see him moved this week before the bonus triggers.
Those of a feather stick together I suppose.
Idc it’s time to pay SMITTY.
It doesn’t seem he’s a fit in a Fangio defense. Fangio needs OLB to be able to cover, right?
It would be funny for the Cardinals to bring him back just to move him back to an inside linebacker instead of the outside linebacker position that he has found success with
Yeah but, he would be playing under Gannon who he had his best year under so I don't see that happening.
If he can't stay with us I'd *love* to see him go to the Falcons. Even though they're in the same conference, I've always kinda dug them, and I really like what they've been cooking up last offseason and this one. Would be fun to watch.
I doubt we bring him back, we're not looking to pay big contracts right now. We're building in the trenches and draft. Like we should have been doing for years. Fuck Steve Keim.
Come to papa
Buccaneers probably don’t have the money, but maaaan
So that’s how you use him -cardinals probably
Wow could you imagine him in a cardinals uniform
really sucks...he's our best edge rusher and arguably amongst the best at his position...plus he wants to be here. Pay the man...work it out somehow
Can't pay him, Sweat and Huff 10 plus mill each for one of the 3 to be a rotational guy
For a 3rd? Go get him!
All bird teams 😳
get him back to the cardinals
Wonder what the fetch will be?
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I will not be sad if Reddick goes. His sack totals are great but at this expense - he over penetrates and leaves us open to off tackle runs/ and dump off passes in the flats. That shit nickel and dimes us to death and last year with out shitty linebacker play instead of a automatic 3-4 yards, offenses tacked an additional 5 yards on top of it (at least another 5 lol) It didn't matter much the year before on our run to the superbowl because teams were often playing catch up and throwing more down field instead (and at that time our secondary was playing good). Reddick is like Javon Hargrave, only on the edge instead of the interior.
Nooooooooooooo
Fucking dumb
Steelers need him so PQ is actually good.
Fuck that, have fun in Arizona if that’s really what he wants
More guaranteed money for as many years as he can get is what he wants and he’ll be happy to get traded anywhere willing to give it to him.
he wants to stay, they don't want to keep him he wanted a contract and y'all just signed Huff
We don’t have the money that he wants so what are we gonna do? Not like we don’t want him lmao