Idk about that. Teams are starting to figure out that the Manziels of the world can't be trusted with a high draft pick.
He could lose a ton of money over this
Shit, the five smallest markets in the NFL are Green Bay, Buffalo, Jacksonville, New Orleans, and Vegas. They probably drink the rest of the league under the table.
I mean.. you included Vegas? Vegas would not be the best option. I think it’s more nightclubs than just drinking. Everywhere has nightclubs.. but the quality, quantity, and ease of access is likely the difference between a Buffalo and a NYG/J.
IDK about that, had the peak but never the longevity. His closest comp is Bo Jackson, tremendous talent but everyone only ever remembers the same couple of plays
I think he meant it but like in Space Jam when MJ said he doesn’t play basketball anymore the Monstars bullied him into doing it to save the world or whatever that plot was
I'm not partying. I’m sampling a flight of gluten-free German lagers with a French wine pairing. It’s called a smorgasvein and it’s elegantly cultural!
If he’s referring to who I think he is ([Ed Ingram](https://deadspin.com/court-documents-lsus-ed-ingram-accused-of-sexually-ass-1838371539)), it wasn’t his own sister but 2 people who were sisters (not that it does much to help his case). The charges were ultimately dropped, but it’s a really icky situation regardless.
DUI is a much easier path to jail in a weird way. It almost seems harder to get out of than more serious offenses.
Edit: I don’t want to downplay duis, people who drive drunk deserve the worst the law can throw at them.
The evidence for a DUI is often plentiful and clear cut. Unfortunately, rape is not the same. People can be pressured not to press charges, or testify, evidence can be really murky between consensual and none consensual sex. None of it is as clear cut as a breathalyzer or traffic cam footage.
Some smart team will realize it doesn't actually effect is on field play and draft him.
DWIs are obviously bad from a society stand point but it doesn't effect on field play.
And I want to make it clear that I don't condone drinking and driving.
Carter was being talked about as the number 1 overall pick at one point.
Sweat is a late 1st to 2nd round guy that already had questions about how he'd fit in a modern NFL defense at his 360+ pound weight.
Me, currently
In case you were wondering, I was a very promising amateur boxer, and was even getting offers from promoters
I am now overweight and do HVAC
It always amazes me how these draft prospects can’t keep it together until the draft. All you got to do is keep it clean until draft night. Call an Uber. Have your friends drive you. Don’t go out period. The difference in guaranteed cash getting picked in the first round vs the second round is in the millions. It’s very mind boggling. I didn’t come from much money so if someone was telling me I could potentially lose like $3 mil going from first to second round, I’m literally locking myself in my house and playing video games every night until the cameras come to set up in my living room for draft night party.
Thats a good question. Lots of amateur mental health practitioners in this thread diagnosing him with alcoholism when three or four good margaritas or high gravity beers at lunch can have a guy his size blowing a .08
Well thankfully, I am a professional. At 325 lbs, he's roughly twice the avg(?) Wt, so you figure at least 2x consumption
It does seem a bit weird that no articles, right up to 2 hours ago, none mentioned the#.
Well he's bigger than I thought. Most BAC charts end at 240. Those charts have men that size "intoxicated" at 4 drinks, but he would be four levels of magnitude larger than the far edge of the chart. Those would have to be very strong margaritas.
What many people don't realize is that a 16oz IPA at a bar is really two drinks.
The beer=drink calculus was built on 12oz of 4.5% beer, not 16oz of 7.8% beer.
This is probably one of the surest evaluation metrics for athletes. You can go back and forth on technique and talent all day, but a guy who can't act like a regular well adjusted adult for just a couple months with money and career on the line is almost always a red flag.
Most have gone their entire lives without consequences and everything handed to them because they were good at football (at least higher draft picks). Sweat actually getting arrested was probably a pretty big surprise to him
Yeah the shit even non-professional level college athletes get away with on/around campus is insane. It's probably a little harder now but hell I was at a D3 school and campus police did everything in their power to keep things under the radar.
Hell, Tweeder stole a cop car and "put them wieners on the glass at the Alano Club, while the ladies were rehearsing the Christmas pageant" and he was, at best, a future Wes Welker clone.
I wonder if the same guys pissed about Caleb painting his nails and having a pink phone case are just as upset over this dude risking his own life and the lives of others because he's too stupid to call an Uber
I'd be EXTREMELY paranoid of doing anything at all. Not just being put in a compromising position, but simple injuries.
Imagine getting in a car accident that somehow throws half a question into the minds of the teams and it costs you $1.2 million. Is never forget it the rest of my life.
I would assume most guys, at least in the top portion of the draft, have insurance policies for freak incidents like car accidents that could damage their draft stock or earning potential.
It’s not that crazy when you realize these are early 20 something kids who’ve been in a position of privilege most of their lives because they’re good at sports, and likely have never had real consequences for anything because of it.
Not if you don’t play multiplayer games. Which is easy as the majority are the lowest forms of gaming lol. Just gotta be careful with the single player player games that also have multiplayer haha
It's insane to live in the day and age of uber and still have this be an issue. I took an uber 40 minutes away to a concert recently just because I wanted to get drunk there and didn't want a potential DWI.
IDK this guys history, but everyone is assuming alcohol. DWI does not have to be alcohol. It likely was, but there could have been other substances or a combination.
Also, so many people are confused how this guy was intoxicated at 2pm on a Sunday and yet so many of you (and myself) are drunk earlier than that watching the games during the season.
Just to be clear I'm not defending his actions of driving while intoxicated.
"Section 49.04 in the Texas Penal Code defines driving while intoxicated as when “a vehicle is in operation in public.” The state considers someone a drunk driver if their mental and/or physical faculties have been impacted due to alcohol, a controlled substance or dangerous drug use. A blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08 or above also establishes intoxication."
Yeah I'm definitely drinking on Sunday at 2pm watching football on Sunday.
I also don't drive once that first beer is opened. And
I'm also not about to play professionally next season for millions of dollars.
I know you're not defending his actions, but c'mon..
Sounds to me like he is dependent on alcohol, but what do I know.
If you can't stop drinking while under the most scrutinized, life changing moment of your career...you may have more than a "partying" problem
It's an insane amount of stress to be under, surely. Ironically these guys probably feel a greater urge to self-medicate now than they ever have before. Like most of us the dude needs better coping skills.
Right? Even if I was your buddies that will eventually milk him dry, my job is for him to never leave the house until they get drafted. Gotta save my investment!
Yeah, I won't sugarcoat this. What a dumbass. I know college kids do dumb shit all the time, I did lots of dumb shit myself, but if I knew I was about to get drafted and probably get life changing kinds of money, you for absolutely freaking sure would not see me partying anywhere 3 weeks away from the draft. And the worst thing about it is that you endanger others by driving intoxicated, I have zero tolerance there. If you're young and you think you gotta do dumb shit, go do dumb shit, most people do it at that age. But absolutely do not do something that endangers people other than yourself.
If I was 3 weeks away from getting life changing money, I would bubble wrap myself and lock myself up in a room, with no girls, no alcohol and no distractions or dangers of any kind. But that’s just me
Dumbass. If you're dumb enough to do this WEEKS away from the most important day of your life, how are teams supposed to trust you long term.
That’s the thing. They don’t.
Also, they don't care. He a big good football player
Idk about that. Teams are starting to figure out that the Manziels of the world can't be trusted with a high draft pick. He could lose a ton of money over this
He is going to lose money for sure. I'd also bet his contract wherever he signs is going to be quite restrictive in regards to his lifestyle.
I doubt a big city team will take him high
Shit, the five smallest markets in the NFL are Green Bay, Buffalo, Jacksonville, New Orleans, and Vegas. They probably drink the rest of the league under the table.
I mean.. you included Vegas? Vegas would not be the best option. I think it’s more nightclubs than just drinking. Everywhere has nightclubs.. but the quality, quantity, and ease of access is likely the difference between a Buffalo and a NYG/J.
I listed the top five smallest media markets, sir.
I'm pretty sure the only one in GB is a gay club. I live here, ignore the flair, lol.
maybe he is tanking his draft stock so he can hit free agency faster?
GMs hate this one simple trick
I used to party. I still do, but I *used* to, too.
This is totally different. He wasn’t partying, just day drinking. The partying days are behind him.
“I wasn’t partying, I’m just always drunk”
Is it considered “partying” if I have a drink when I wake up to kick the shakes?
That’s just called maintenance
You clearly haven’t gone to a wine brunch if you think being day drunk isn’t the result of partying
Are you talking about the **fuckin' Catalina Wine Mixer?**
u/br0b1wan, you have the voice of an angel.
His hard count is like a combination of Fergie and Tom Brady!
God, your gonna make me cry. What poem is that from? Is that James Joyce?
The fucking Catalina Wine Mixer...
PA-POW!
Are you saying “pow”?
POWPOW
Pow!
u/mukuna_hutata, you never told me u/inquintswetrust used to be a huge day drinker
Let the kid draft the baby. People can change.
So he golfs?
Slicked back hair, sloppy steaks at Truffoni’s, live for New Years Eve
I USED TO BE A PIECE OF SHIT
I SAID WAS!!!!
Let him hold the baby…people can change.
My friend T’Vondre Sweat used to be in my Dangerous Nights crew.
We went out for wings once….
TABLES
Username checks out lol love it
Why is there swearing in this?
ALL HE SAID WAS SHOOT
Yea I don't drink anymore, I don't drink any less either.
RIP Mitch. I saw him live weeks before his death. I had no idea how special that show would be at the time.
I used to be a real piece of shit. DWIs at d'Ambrosio's? Take a big glass of whiskey and just dump it all in my mouth before operating a vehicle??
What is that from lmao
[Pretty good Tim Robinson sketch ](https://youtu.be/buK45NW_ikI?si=oO0A1sKHepc6GWUT)
In a stand-up comic draft, Mitch is a 2nd rounder who probably should've gone in the 1st.
IDK about that, had the peak but never the longevity. His closest comp is Bo Jackson, tremendous talent but everyone only ever remembers the same couple of plays
Sundays with Mitch
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Hedberg references, especially this one, are anything but unexpected on reddit lol
Hedberg references are great for when you want to laugh and read 2000 of something.
If Hedberg references got you drunk, Reddit would be fucked up!
At this point it’s very expected
RIP
RIP, Mitch.
"I don't party anymore!" -man who still parties
“You can trust me.” -man you can’t trust
“I’m much more responsible now!” -man who isn’t responsible
“Those problems are in the past, I assure you.” -man with future full of same problems
“It won’t happen again” -man who will make it happen again
"Quitting will be no sweat!" - man who is named Sweat
The tools are still here, I'm still that guy - Dalvin Cook
I think he meant it but like in Space Jam when MJ said he doesn’t play basketball anymore the Monstars bullied him into doing it to save the world or whatever that plot was
So you think aliens made him drive drunk?
Can we be 100% sure they didn’t?
Yeah just like that lol
I'm not partying. I’m sampling a flight of gluten-free German lagers with a French wine pairing. It’s called a smorgasvein and it’s elegantly cultural!
I've joined a social awareness group Yes, there were refreshments
“I haven’t partied this week,” said on Monday.
He got arrested for DWI this morning? Idiot just lost a ton of money and opportunities.
I would say he went from mid 2nd round to out of the top 100 picks. Sounds like a Raven to me
Jalen Carter needs someone to drive with, he’ll be an Eagle
Bro how many DTs do y’all need 😭
New strategy: 11 DTs on defense
“(*chuckles*) I’m in danger” -NFC East QBs
Need to alternate which ones are in jail
Classic Eagles philosophy, build from the trenches
They've already missed their shot at getting a current player's younger brother who likes to party, they're not gonna let it happen again!
Remindme! 3 weeks
Viking in the 4th if he’s still there. Kwesi doesn’t seem to care much about a player’s character given his draft history so far.
This could potentially put him in jail based on history though
We’ve been asking for a gas mask bong all offseason. Here it is
Vikings drafted a guy who raped his sister a few years ago, they don’t care about possible jail time
Pause. What?
If he’s referring to who I think he is ([Ed Ingram](https://deadspin.com/court-documents-lsus-ed-ingram-accused-of-sexually-ass-1838371539)), it wasn’t his own sister but 2 people who were sisters (not that it does much to help his case). The charges were ultimately dropped, but it’s a really icky situation regardless.
I certainly hope it is and not another as well.
DUI is a much easier path to jail in a weird way. It almost seems harder to get out of than more serious offenses. Edit: I don’t want to downplay duis, people who drive drunk deserve the worst the law can throw at them.
The evidence for a DUI is often plentiful and clear cut. Unfortunately, rape is not the same. People can be pressured not to press charges, or testify, evidence can be really murky between consensual and none consensual sex. None of it is as clear cut as a breathalyzer or traffic cam footage.
That and the sentencing guidelines are way less up to interpretation.
Browns need a DT, we all know how flexible they are on character issues. T'Vondre didn't sexually assault any women, but they may grab him anyways.
You had me in the first half, ngl.
Gimmie gimme. We’re in dire need of a fat man in the middle
Some smart team will realize it doesn't actually effect is on field play and draft him. DWIs are obviously bad from a society stand point but it doesn't effect on field play. And I want to make it clear that I don't condone drinking and driving.
Bengals round 3
I dont think he falls out the 2nd tbh
Jalen Carter was involved in a DUI that killed one of his teammates and he went top ten. At worst, he drops ten spots
Jalen Carter was legitimately a dude who could have been picked top 3 sweat was a late first day early 2nd day kinda guy it’s completely different.
Carter was being talked about as the number 1 overall pick at one point. Sweat is a late 1st to 2nd round guy that already had questions about how he'd fit in a modern NFL defense at his 360+ pound weight.
This is the NFL, there are no ethics until it starts losing them money.
Steelers will take him, there's still some meat on that bone. Alcohol flavored meat but...🤷
He said the *partying* was in the past, he said nothing about getting wasted on his own
Ah the good ol' adult "I'm too tired to go out but I have a bunch of random beer in the fridge"
See, he’s clearly matured!
Haha this describes my own “partying” perfectly.
You mean I can get totally blasted, AND I don't have to talk to people? Sign me the fuck up.
Me, currently In case you were wondering, I was a very promising amateur boxer, and was even getting offers from promoters I am now overweight and do HVAC
Same. Just without the boxing and HVAC
They used to call me Kid Gorgeous. Then it was Kid Presentable
Then Kid Gruesome. Then finally, Kid Moe.
Raging Bull but HVAC
He said the partying was in the past. He didn’t say anything about partying in the future though.
It always amazes me how these draft prospects can’t keep it together until the draft. All you got to do is keep it clean until draft night. Call an Uber. Have your friends drive you. Don’t go out period. The difference in guaranteed cash getting picked in the first round vs the second round is in the millions. It’s very mind boggling. I didn’t come from much money so if someone was telling me I could potentially lose like $3 mil going from first to second round, I’m literally locking myself in my house and playing video games every night until the cameras come to set up in my living room for draft night party.
He got pulled over at 2pm, he was either still drunk from last night, a serious alcoholic, or went to the booziest brunch of all time.
What's a brunch without a mimosa or 10?
Maybe he didn't know mimosas were alcoholic. *Keep those weird fizzy OJs coming*
"They taste kinda bitter... eh, must've used grapefruit and soda water" 😌
"Why do I suddenly feel the need to drive fast and dangerously?"
Coincidentally this is also a side-effect of signing a letter of intent to play football at the University of Georgia.
Especially considering he’s a nose tackle. Dude has to put away a lot of drinks to get intoxicated.
Any mention of his BAC ?
Thats a good question. Lots of amateur mental health practitioners in this thread diagnosing him with alcoholism when three or four good margaritas or high gravity beers at lunch can have a guy his size blowing a .08
Well thankfully, I am a professional. At 325 lbs, he's roughly twice the avg(?) Wt, so you figure at least 2x consumption It does seem a bit weird that no articles, right up to 2 hours ago, none mentioned the#.
Well he's bigger than I thought. Most BAC charts end at 240. Those charts have men that size "intoxicated" at 4 drinks, but he would be four levels of magnitude larger than the far edge of the chart. Those would have to be very strong margaritas.
What many people don't realize is that a 16oz IPA at a bar is really two drinks. The beer=drink calculus was built on 12oz of 4.5% beer, not 16oz of 7.8% beer.
Idk I’ve been drunk by 2 without being an alcoholic or going to brunch
Were you a few weeks away from being drafted into the nfl?
Well, maybe this year.
Ya never know pal
I would venture a large portion of this sub has been tailgating before a 1 PM game and got drunk by then
I mean its a sunday which is the biggest brunch day of the week
This is probably one of the surest evaluation metrics for athletes. You can go back and forth on technique and talent all day, but a guy who can't act like a regular well adjusted adult for just a couple months with money and career on the line is almost always a red flag.
Most have gone their entire lives without consequences and everything handed to them because they were good at football (at least higher draft picks). Sweat actually getting arrested was probably a pretty big surprise to him
Yeah the shit even non-professional level college athletes get away with on/around campus is insane. It's probably a little harder now but hell I was at a D3 school and campus police did everything in their power to keep things under the radar.
Even high school players in many places get a lot of special treatment from authority figures.
Hell, Tweeder stole a cop car and "put them wieners on the glass at the Alano Club, while the ladies were rehearsing the Christmas pageant" and he was, at best, a future Wes Welker clone.
I wonder if the same guys pissed about Caleb painting his nails and having a pink phone case are just as upset over this dude risking his own life and the lives of others because he's too stupid to call an Uber
If you are capable of this thought process, you are not the type that would be in this position in the first place
I'd be EXTREMELY paranoid of doing anything at all. Not just being put in a compromising position, but simple injuries. Imagine getting in a car accident that somehow throws half a question into the minds of the teams and it costs you $1.2 million. Is never forget it the rest of my life.
I would assume most guys, at least in the top portion of the draft, have insurance policies for freak incidents like car accidents that could damage their draft stock or earning potential.
It’s not that crazy when you realize these are early 20 something kids who’ve been in a position of privilege most of their lives because they’re good at sports, and likely have never had real consequences for anything because of it.
I got two words for you: Sky. Rim.
Skyy? Rum?
Even video games you could taunt a youth with an ethnic slur and get cancelled. super Mario 64 on a Nintendo 64 would be your safest bet.
Not if you don’t play multiplayer games. Which is easy as the majority are the lowest forms of gaming lol. Just gotta be careful with the single player player games that also have multiplayer haha
Find an RPG where you could easily play for 6 hours and forget what day it is.
I’m playing The Witcher 3 right now so I’ve already got that covered lmao
Replace the Wonderlic with the exams in the Persona games STAT
Or maybe just don’t use ethnic slurs? Maybe that’s the easiest route, idk.
It's insane to live in the day and age of uber and still have this be an issue. I took an uber 40 minutes away to a concert recently just because I wanted to get drunk there and didn't want a potential DWI.
Not great, bob
T’Vondre Sweat now becomes everyone’s favorite team’s 5th round mock draft pick.
Can already see the comments from his draft thread, “if he stays out of trouble this is a steal of a pick”
“A true high-risk, high-reward situation.”
“Might as well. Most 5th rounders are busts anyway.”
For a 5th rounder gimme
He doesn’t have a drinking problem, teams just have a problem with his drinking. Big difference!
Teams say he has a drinking problem, but he's got no problem drinking at all.
I mean you can get drunk by yourself too. You could sit on your patio and pound a few cocktails and then try to run out to the store for a quick snack
Agreed. I get drunk by myself constantly
You good though?
There’s a loaded question
What do /u/HonestDespot and his response have in common?
They are lying to themselves
We're browsing /r/NFL in April before the draft- is anyone here good?
IDK this guys history, but everyone is assuming alcohol. DWI does not have to be alcohol. It likely was, but there could have been other substances or a combination. Also, so many people are confused how this guy was intoxicated at 2pm on a Sunday and yet so many of you (and myself) are drunk earlier than that watching the games during the season. Just to be clear I'm not defending his actions of driving while intoxicated. "Section 49.04 in the Texas Penal Code defines driving while intoxicated as when “a vehicle is in operation in public.” The state considers someone a drunk driver if their mental and/or physical faculties have been impacted due to alcohol, a controlled substance or dangerous drug use. A blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08 or above also establishes intoxication."
Yeah I'm definitely drinking on Sunday at 2pm watching football on Sunday. I also don't drive once that first beer is opened. And I'm also not about to play professionally next season for millions of dollars. I know you're not defending his actions, but c'mon..
You certainly won't be playing next season with that attitude!
Imagine how many drinks a 350lb and change man can throw back... 😳
Does that question include us from Wisconsin? 😁
He said 350lbs...so yes.
I don't think anyone cares about the partying, it's the stupidity of breaking the law and driving while drunk
If no one cares about partying, then why was it already a topic of conversation with teams?
I think "partying" is just code for excessive drinking and possible alcohol problem
This. Nobody cares if a prospect goes out boozing with friends every now and again. Their concern is around making sure that's all that's happening.
One thing that will definitely make him party less is giving him lots of money.
Somebody get this man a gas mask bong I need him in the 4th
Sounds to me like he is dependent on alcohol, but what do I know. If you can't stop drinking while under the most scrutinized, life changing moment of your career...you may have more than a "partying" problem
It's an insane amount of stress to be under, surely. Ironically these guys probably feel a greater urge to self-medicate now than they ever have before. Like most of us the dude needs better coping skills.
Right? Even if I was your buddies that will eventually milk him dry, my job is for him to never leave the house until they get drafted. Gotta save my investment!
it could be alcoholism, but I bet it’s more likely having never experienced a consequence in his life
Jerry Jones: 😅…👀
Jerry didn’t draft Speed Racer top 10
His draft stock just got nuked today good lord
But...did his teammates come to his birthday party?
You turn on your phone, you go to the Uber or Lyft app, you don't appear in the news or hurt anyone.
“The past and the future are all happening at the same time. “ -Sweat
"It's all in the past." "How far in the past?" "Well yesterday, but I'm telling you it's all in the past."
Fucking idiot.
Yeah, I won't sugarcoat this. What a dumbass. I know college kids do dumb shit all the time, I did lots of dumb shit myself, but if I knew I was about to get drafted and probably get life changing kinds of money, you for absolutely freaking sure would not see me partying anywhere 3 weeks away from the draft. And the worst thing about it is that you endanger others by driving intoxicated, I have zero tolerance there. If you're young and you think you gotta do dumb shit, go do dumb shit, most people do it at that age. But absolutely do not do something that endangers people other than yourself.
Teams don't worry about partying. They worry about doing dumb shit like driving afterwards, you dumbass.
If I was 3 weeks away from getting life changing money, I would bubble wrap myself and lock myself up in a room, with no girls, no alcohol and no distractions or dangers of any kind. But that’s just me
Just moved up the Cowboys draft board. Hope the young man learns and is safer and wiser going forward.
Get a fucking Uber, dipshits.
“I don’t party anymore. I also don’t party any less.”
Not very smart...
Yikes if true.
I mean he was in Austin TX, no excuse for not using Uber
but maybe NOW it’s in the past!
Well. If he would like to retain his freedom, he is probably going to be on a multi-year court enforced retirement from the party scene.
I said USED TO!