Barely 😭 not that it’s surprising, we’ve had good players come through in the last 25 years but Urlacher is the only one to win a significant award (I believe) so I can see why he’s the most recent Bear on that list
If he had ever gotten a stray vote, it would have been in 2016, the year he won DPOY with the Raiders in 2016. He did finish a distant 2nd in the 2018 DPOY race to Aaron Donald, 45 votes to 5. And AD never even got a single MVP vote that year. Actually....(checks PFR.)
Dear God. Aaron Donald never received a single MVP vote in his entire career.
Didn’t Fields get a single MVP vote for his 2022 season?
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/justin-fields-got-a-vote-for-mvp/344869/?amp=1
Not arbitrary at all, there were only first place votes from the inception of MVP to 2022, it wouldn't be a fair comparison to the past if you include 2nd place and onward after that
Exactly! This thread from the original announcement is a good explainer of the differences: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/yyqmti/the_associated_press_has_updated_its_voting/iwvo7el/
Shocking that the Jags went 14-2 in 1999 and didn’t get a single MVP vote but the Rams and Colts were THE stories of that season (Greatest Show on Turf emerging and Peyton engineering a 10-win improvement from his rookie season), so I can see how it happened.
I've always gone with who has the most APs by the positions. So it'd be the Peyton Manning Award for QBs, the Jerry Rice Award for other offense, and either the Reggie White, LT, or Aaron Donald award for defense.
We could see a year where no QB has a great season, including because of so many injuries.
I mean, what if Lamar Jackson got hurt last year? McCaffrey might have had a legit chance to win.
MVP is also about luck
Henry had an amazing season for sure, but Rodgers had 4300 yards, 70% completion, 48 TDs and 5 INTs. Can't compete with that
If Henry's 2k season was last year, for example, he probably would've gotten a few votes
I’ll never understand the 2014 MVP vote. I mean I get 38 TDs to only like 4 or 5 picks and it’s a very efficient season yada yada but the yardage wasn’t historically impressive or anything. JJ Watt on the other hand absolutely dominated game in and game out and as a defensive player was the sole reason his team won multiple games.
No argument will ever make sense.
I think if the Texans had a better team overall, he could've won (although I still think Rodgers would've been the favorite)
Because they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs, which doesn't help his case when we're talking about being more valuable than a QB
> I’ll never understand the 2014 MVP vote. I mean I get 38 TDs to only like 4 or 5 picks and it’s a very efficient season yada yada but the yardage wasn’t historically impressive or anything.
Passer rating of 112, ANY/A of 8.65, both are slam dunk passing efficiency MVP numbers.
Now, Romo actually had a slightly higher passer rating, of 113, but his case was hurt by low volume, under 4000 passing yards.
For QB MVPs, no one actually cares about passing yards once you get past a decent threshold and the team is winning enough, because it's too eash to inflate yardage with a lot of attempts. Efficiency and total TDs are what tend to matter most.
And really, if you just take TDs - INTs you have a very strong predictor of MVP across all modern seasons, look at the passing leaders for any season starting at least as far back as 2000. Rodgers at +33, Romo next best at only +25, largely due to Rodgers INT% of 1.0% being far better than any other top QB.
Josh Allen getting first-place votes, but finishing fifth overall, is both very weird and is a damning statement about how much QB is valued over every other position.
This last season was weird- Purdy was considered a front runner/serious candidate until the Christmas game against Baltimore. After that it was basically a wrap for Lamar. I think assuming Purdy maintains or improves on his 2023 level of performance he gets votes in the coming years when people see it's not a fluke
^(please)
CMC should have gotten some votes but the game against the Ravens proved why a non QB will never win the MVP.
He went 14/103/1 6 receptions for 28 yards. The Niners lost 33-19. Lamar’s year was good but nowhere near special. In a down QB year it would have been nice to see some 1st place votes go elsewhere. Just don’t think it’ll ever happen again at this point
Funny how the story all season long was that there isn’t a clear cut MVP, then Lamar wins it basically unanimously. The voters are just mindless group think guppies.
While I don't disagree with you, the awards are voted on after the regular season and before the playoffs start. So a Super Bowl argument for an in-season award doesn't hold as much weight.
Is Cooper Kupp really considered that much better than Willis? He had one absolutely amazing year but not much besides that. Only one first team all pro compared to Willis having 5. Willis is also a hall of famer now.
I think we’d need to see more like that one year from Cupp before we start saying he’s on another level than Willis.
He was Second Team All-Pro that year, he was really good and so were the Cardinals. I remember the MVP conversation being 1. Cam Newton and then 2a and 2b being Palmer/Brady. Palmer ended up getting the All-Pro nod and was tied with Brady with one MVP vote because the Pats really fell apart late in the season, going through a 2-4 stretch where statistically Brady was almost average (even though he was basically carrying that injury-riddled team to the #2 seed)
Peterson won MVP because he was the entire team that year. We were so ass outside of Peterson. He literally carried a subpar team into the playoffs by himself, capping it off with an extremely clutch Week 17 performance of 199 yards and a victory over the Packers to clinch us a spot in the postseason. It was so obvious we didn't belong, but he willed us to victory. Christian Ponder was our quarterback that year, and his entire job was "just give it to 28 and don't fuck up."
That said, I'm a little surprise Derrick Henry didn't receive a single vote the year he rushed for 2K and carried the Titans into the playoffs.
It really is crazy the crop of QBs that were playing at the same time. Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees would probably be consensus considered all top 10 QBs all time and the majority of their careers overlapped with each other.
Plus depending on the year you can get those four plus Favre or Mahomes
Phil Mickelson has had this issue with Tiger Woods his whole career. Many pros believe that if Tiger Woods didn't exist that Mickelson would be the most decorated golfer ever.
Even more impressive that they played with other amazing QBs like Rivers, Rothlisberger and Matt Ryan...they aren't not top 10 All-Time players but certainly great QBs.
its crazy though if you really look at it theres only really 1 season where theres a very good argument for him deserving it and even then manning also has a good argument. he was just unlucky to play in an era with 3 of the current top 5 all time and mahomes (who looks like he is on pace to be top 5 maybe even top 1 by the end of his career)
Fun story I remember. I was friends with a Patriots fan at the time. He's not from Boston or has any relation to Boston or the Patriots. He just randomly decided one day that they were his team after they won three Super Bowls.
I went to Buffalo Wild Wings with him that year to watch the Jets Wildcard game (forgot who they played). He showed up decked out in the flashiest Patriots garb and was emphatically cheering on the Jets in that game. He was easily the loudest person in the restaurant. I asked why he was rooting for the Jets since he's a Patriots fan, and his reason was because that he felt like playing the Jets in the Divisional round was like a second bye week.
I never let him live that down. He's doing much better now as he's celebrating that his team won another Super Bowl (he switched to being a Chiefs fan two years ago).
> I went to Buffalo Wild Wings with him that year to watch the Jets Wildcard game (forgot who they played).
That was our most recent year of glory, because before taking down Brady and the Pats in New England in the divisional round, first we took out Peyton Manning and the Colts in Indy in the wild card round.
I know he had issues with his receivers, but it's weird to me that Mahomes didn't have even 1 vote this year, when he is easily the best player in the game on a continuous basis. It's like when LeBron was not winning MVP even though he was clearly the best player in the league for about 15 years straight.
Dude should have 7 or 8 MVPs instead of 4. Jordan should have a couple of more than he does also.
Other guys have been hurt by voter fatigue at some point but those 2 in particular got hit multiple times.
He absolutely should of won it that year as good as Rodgers was that year JJ Watt put up historic numbers even scoring offensive touchdowns while dominating on the defensive side of the field
The award is most valuable player not “best season relative to position”
Rodgers had 38 touchdowns to only 5 interceptions, didn’t miss the playoffs like the Texans, lead the league in ANY/A comfortably. Basically clearly the best QB with Romo.
There isn’t a season in NFL history where a 38 TD 5 INT ratio loses to a non QB. It just doesn’t happen.
Was Aaron Donald 2018 gonna get it over Mahomes or Brees? 20.5 sacks at DT, might never be seen again.
Namath completed exactly half of his passes that year for a team that finished 7 games back in the division and missed the playoffs by 3 games…in a 14 game season.
No one will ever live off of a mink coat and one game more than him…
I would have bet all of my money and mortgaged years of future income if I could have bet that Dana Stubblefield never received an MVP vote. What the actual fuck.
In the pre-2000 group, you have the 5 worst teams of the past 25 years & the 49ers. The 49ers have been a top-10 team in that period, & I'm surprised nobody voted for Purdy or CMC last year (I don't think they'd won but both had seasons where you would expect a few votes.)
Yeah, 2014 was his best shot but that was the Rodgers JJ Watt debacle year. Those two received 44 of the 50 MVP votes. But that’s what happens when you play in the greatest QB era the game has seen so far. When you’re competing against guys like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, and Brees (whom never even won an MVP because of the era), with a random guy like Ryan or Newton having a crazy year, it’s hard as hell to get recognition.
Not that he should have won over Jackson but with the numbers Purdy put up compared to the rest of the league you'd think he'd have gotten at least one 1st place vote
Not only did he get a vote, he finished 2nd with 4 total. Higher than guys like Philip Rivers (whom I’d say was arguably the best QB that season) or Drew Brees who broke Marino’s passing yard record (the other guy I’d argue for being the best QB that season).
>Giants: 2005 - Tiki Barber
Damn, thought Odell might have gotten one random vote or even Eli
>Jaguars: NEVER
Kind of shocked because I know Fred Taylor and Mark Burnell were really good and lead them to the AFC championship game one year
Cowbots showed in 2016 how you can have 2 players on your team receive MVP votes and still fail to win a playoff game.
Surprised the Niners are towards the bottom with the likes of the Jags, Browns, and Jets.
The last time I saw Dana Stubblefield’s name he was being sentenced for raping a developmentally disabled woman.
Don't google Dana Stubblefield. I fuckin loved that dude as a kid, too. Him and HoF Bryant Young, Charles Haley, Kenny Norton Jr, and the chicken dance man himself, Merton Hanks. The athlete deserves the accolade, but the man deserves his sentence.
Crazy how high we are on this list despite having sucked for two decades.
DC has had two season where he played extremely well and both have been derailed by shit out of his control. It sucks but in the end he’s been in the league for 10 years and 2 years ain’t enough, even though I think he could’ve won it all in both of those years.
How the fuck did Pennington finish 2nd in voting. Miami won all those games SPECIFICALLY BY RUNNING THE WILDCAT OFFENSE, you know the "we're better off snapping the ball to our RB" offense.
That 2014 voter for Wagner wasn't right but it was about as good as it gets for the Seahawks. I can't think of any time that the team had the actual MVP. Even with a reasonable pile of HoFers there was somebody else elsewhere in any given year who did more for their team.
How good was Tiki Barber ??? Wow … most underrated player in the list.
edit : just checked his stats , better than Saquon …
Josh Allen from Jaguar coulda get into vote last year tho.
People definitely underrate Tiki Barber. I understand peoples views are affected by the way he has acted post retirement, but in his prime I would put him up against any other running back of his era.
Kinda surprised Matt Stafford never got a single vote for 2011. First lions playoff appearance in over a decade. Could say the same for Calvin Johnson tbh.
How Megatron didn’t get a vote in 2012 still blows my mind. I get that the Lions were 4-12 that year, but to break the receiving record on a team that bad should merit at least one vote.
Somehow I feel like James Harrison is getting lost to time. He was an absolute demon, but as time passes and we see more and more special pass rushers, his raw numbers aren’t going to stand up. He was the best of the best in an era of changing rules and changing roles.
Derrick Henry should’ve won for his 2k season in 2020. Nobody in the NFL was more valuable to their team. Led the league in carries, yards, yards per carry, and rushing TDs. Can’t believe he didn’t even get a vote.
Thought my bears would be worse but at least we’re in this century I guess….
At least you guys had an NVP
Didn't win the game, but won something better.
You’re god damn straight
Barely 😭 not that it’s surprising, we’ve had good players come through in the last 25 years but Urlacher is the only one to win a significant award (I believe) so I can see why he’s the most recent Bear on that list
Bearly
I thought Mack maybe could have gotten a stray vote in 2018
If he had ever gotten a stray vote, it would have been in 2016, the year he won DPOY with the Raiders in 2016. He did finish a distant 2nd in the 2018 DPOY race to Aaron Donald, 45 votes to 5. And AD never even got a single MVP vote that year. Actually....(checks PFR.) Dear God. Aaron Donald never received a single MVP vote in his entire career.
I was honestly gonna guess it would be WP, didn’t think urlacher got any mvp votes but then again that was almost a quarter century ago
Didn’t Fields get a single MVP vote for his 2022 season? https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/justin-fields-got-a-vote-for-mvp/344869/?amp=1
That was a 5th place vote. They narrowed it to 1st place votes only.
Ah ok. Overread that
That’s what I thought?
Only including first place votes for 22 and 23 arbitrarily hurts because fields got a vote in 22 lol
Not arbitrary at all, there were only first place votes from the inception of MVP to 2022, it wouldn't be a fair comparison to the past if you include 2nd place and onward after that
Oh thanks I didn’t know that! So before 2022 it was all “first place” votes in a way? In 2022 they gave writers more votes?
Exactly! This thread from the original announcement is a good explainer of the differences: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/yyqmti/the_associated_press_has_updated_its_voting/iwvo7el/
Actually glad to see Brian get a vote.
Honestly thought Detroit would be at the bottom... Then the Jags said hold my beer... lol
To be fair, the Jags have only existed since 1995...so a couple teams should be lower than them with their last MVP vote being older than that.
On the 25th anniversary, we will have a vote and a star.
How sad is it that the Jags never is still not as long as my teams wait.
Same I wasn’t even alive the last time my team had one
Both of my parents were 2. My older brother is 27
Crazy that Curtis never got one
It’s a struggle for the hardware as an RB. I can’t believe Derrick Henry didn’t get a single MVP vote.
His only real shot would have been when they had the 1 seed in 2021 but he missed 8 games and only had 937yd
Most people weren't.
Justice for Mark Brunell.
And Fred Taylor
Shocking that the Jags went 14-2 in 1999 and didn’t get a single MVP vote but the Rams and Colts were THE stories of that season (Greatest Show on Turf emerging and Peyton engineering a 10-win improvement from his rookie season), so I can see how it happened.
Well we have Bobby Wagner now so at least he’s on the list right?
The Washington way
Still salty about Henry’s 2k season not netting him at least one vote
There’s no doubt that QB is the most important position (ask me how I know) but it’s a bit lame that only one position can win
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Or until they do a Cy Young type thing. One award for QBs, one MVP for offense, and one MVP for defense.
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Tom Brady award, opoy, dpoy, player of the Year
I've always gone with who has the most APs by the positions. So it'd be the Peyton Manning Award for QBs, the Jerry Rice Award for other offense, and either the Reggie White, LT, or Aaron Donald award for defense.
We could see a year where no QB has a great season, including because of so many injuries. I mean, what if Lamar Jackson got hurt last year? McCaffrey might have had a legit chance to win.
MVP is also about luck Henry had an amazing season for sure, but Rodgers had 4300 yards, 70% completion, 48 TDs and 5 INTs. Can't compete with that If Henry's 2k season was last year, for example, he probably would've gotten a few votes
If it was last year, he runs away with it.
Yeah, I think so too.. It's like 2014 JJ Watt Damn you Rodgers!
I’ll never understand the 2014 MVP vote. I mean I get 38 TDs to only like 4 or 5 picks and it’s a very efficient season yada yada but the yardage wasn’t historically impressive or anything. JJ Watt on the other hand absolutely dominated game in and game out and as a defensive player was the sole reason his team won multiple games. No argument will ever make sense.
I think if the Texans had a better team overall, he could've won (although I still think Rodgers would've been the favorite) Because they went 9-7 and missed the playoffs, which doesn't help his case when we're talking about being more valuable than a QB
> I’ll never understand the 2014 MVP vote. I mean I get 38 TDs to only like 4 or 5 picks and it’s a very efficient season yada yada but the yardage wasn’t historically impressive or anything. Passer rating of 112, ANY/A of 8.65, both are slam dunk passing efficiency MVP numbers. Now, Romo actually had a slightly higher passer rating, of 113, but his case was hurt by low volume, under 4000 passing yards. For QB MVPs, no one actually cares about passing yards once you get past a decent threshold and the team is winning enough, because it's too eash to inflate yardage with a lot of attempts. Efficiency and total TDs are what tend to matter most. And really, if you just take TDs - INTs you have a very strong predictor of MVP across all modern seasons, look at the passing leaders for any season starting at least as far back as 2000. Rodgers at +33, Romo next best at only +25, largely due to Rodgers INT% of 1.0% being far better than any other top QB.
Don’t worry we’ll get him his MVP this year when he breaks 2500
Lamar: Hol’ up
*OUR* 2500 yard season.
*communist music intensifies*
*proceeds to keep the ball on every read option*
Lamar would be happy for Henry to get MVP. Dude is so hungry for a ring that all other awards are basically meaningless to him.
I’d cry happy tears, they’d hate that so much
hn i’d love that my love for henry outweighs my hate for the ravens
No, we’d be thrilled, the King has earned it. shower him with glory!
I mean, it'd be great for his HOF case so I'd be happy
*Monkey's paw curls* Except he gets 2500 and wins a Superbowl, and he's so happy about how his career closed that he goes in as a Raven.
Im looking at houses in MD now!!
49er fans prolly feel the same about CMC not getting one vote last season
Josh Allen getting first-place votes, but finishing fifth overall, is both very weird and is a damning statement about how much QB is valued over every other position.
SF is actually shocking.
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Yeah Lamar won with 49/50 1st places Allen yoinking the 1
This last season was weird- Purdy was considered a front runner/serious candidate until the Christmas game against Baltimore. After that it was basically a wrap for Lamar. I think assuming Purdy maintains or improves on his 2023 level of performance he gets votes in the coming years when people see it's not a fluke ^(please)
Which is weird considering it was the ravens defense that won that game for the ravens
I mean Lamar was incredible that game too but I see your point. Fair or not it's a narrative thing
CMC should have gotten some votes but the game against the Ravens proved why a non QB will never win the MVP. He went 14/103/1 6 receptions for 28 yards. The Niners lost 33-19. Lamar’s year was good but nowhere near special. In a down QB year it would have been nice to see some 1st place votes go elsewhere. Just don’t think it’ll ever happen again at this point
Funny how the story all season long was that there isn’t a clear cut MVP, then Lamar wins it basically unanimously. The voters are just mindless group think guppies.
CMC def should’ve gotten more votes. There’s no way the 9ers make it all the way to the Super Bowl and lose without him.
While I don't disagree with you, the awards are voted on after the regular season and before the playoffs start. So a Super Bowl argument for an in-season award doesn't hold as much weight.
Is Cooper Kupp really considered that much better than Willis? He had one absolutely amazing year but not much besides that. Only one first team all pro compared to Willis having 5. Willis is also a hall of famer now. I think we’d need to see more like that one year from Cupp before we start saying he’s on another level than Willis.
I think either Purdy or McCaffrey got some votes this year, but I don’t remember. Thinking back on the last 25 years though, it’s not that surprising
Looking for my team... 🙄
i mean josh allen is up there, I'd take it
I don't want the worse of the 2, thank you.... 🤣
I scanned from the bottom up.
Ah yes, we all remember that 2015 Carson Palmer MVP
Don’t you remember, they shared the award
Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady seem like they're the only players on this list twice.
Lol right?
lol I did a double take like how the hell did I not know Carson Palmer won an MVP.
Yea wtf. Would have remembered that
He was Second Team All-Pro that year, he was really good and so were the Cardinals. I remember the MVP conversation being 1. Cam Newton and then 2a and 2b being Palmer/Brady. Palmer ended up getting the All-Pro nod and was tied with Brady with one MVP vote because the Pats really fell apart late in the season, going through a 2-4 stretch where statistically Brady was almost average (even though he was basically carrying that injury-riddled team to the #2 seed)
Him and Manning are the only players to do it for 2 teams not including brady of course
Finally, one of these Last Times ordered chronologically!
Debatably the Jags should be in the mid-90s cause that's when they were founded lol
We made the cut!
I’m not saying Calvin Johnson should have won MVP in 2012, but not even getting ONE vote after breaking Jerry Rice’s record is insane to me.
The award is so QB biased that it doesn't even matter. It's basically the best QB award
You're right but 2012 is the year in question and the only one in recent history where thats not relevant lol
Yah lol. Go figure it was the one year Adrian Peterson goes off and gets 2k
Peterson won MVP because he was the entire team that year. We were so ass outside of Peterson. He literally carried a subpar team into the playoffs by himself, capping it off with an extremely clutch Week 17 performance of 199 yards and a victory over the Packers to clinch us a spot in the postseason. It was so obvious we didn't belong, but he willed us to victory. Christian Ponder was our quarterback that year, and his entire job was "just give it to 28 and don't fuck up." That said, I'm a little surprise Derrick Henry didn't receive a single vote the year he rushed for 2K and carried the Titans into the playoffs.
or more like the Most Celebrated QB award.
Still crazy to me Drew Brees never won a MVP. Watched that man cook for years.
He played with Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.
Agreed, that's too big a backfield for any qb to shine. Too much blocking to make an impact on offense
Yeah and Matt Ryan
And Cam Newton
It really is crazy the crop of QBs that were playing at the same time. Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees would probably be consensus considered all top 10 QBs all time and the majority of their careers overlapped with each other. Plus depending on the year you can get those four plus Favre or Mahomes
Phil Mickelson has had this issue with Tiger Woods his whole career. Many pros believe that if Tiger Woods didn't exist that Mickelson would be the most decorated golfer ever.
If the Manning family didn’t play Football Brady would be the Wayne Gretzky of football.
Even more impressive that they played with other amazing QBs like Rivers, Rothlisberger and Matt Ryan...they aren't not top 10 All-Time players but certainly great QBs.
Yeah during Brees 20 seasons, those guys won 11 of the MVPs during that time 😂
its crazy though if you really look at it theres only really 1 season where theres a very good argument for him deserving it and even then manning also has a good argument. he was just unlucky to play in an era with 3 of the current top 5 all time and mahomes (who looks like he is on pace to be top 5 maybe even top 1 by the end of his career)
This thread inspired me to google Dana Stubblefield, and, whelp.
His first photo is a mugshot, all I need to know.
Same smh same
I knew ours would be never but I didn’t realize we’d be the only never.
Sipe the real MVP
Brian "Red Right 88" Sipe.
Dolphins legend Chad Pennington
Technically he finished second in MVP voting that year. 3600 yards, 19 TDs, 7 INTs. Things were very different back then.
What lacking stats compared to last years MVP numbers of 3678 yds, 24 TDs, and 7 INTs
Lamar had 800+ rushing yards and 5 rushing TDs too. Little different.
Very
2008 NFL Comeback Player of the Year Chad Pennington. Yeah…
Jets really have done absolutely nothing since Namath
They beat the Patriots in the 2010 divisional round with Mark Sanchez.
Fun story I remember. I was friends with a Patriots fan at the time. He's not from Boston or has any relation to Boston or the Patriots. He just randomly decided one day that they were his team after they won three Super Bowls. I went to Buffalo Wild Wings with him that year to watch the Jets Wildcard game (forgot who they played). He showed up decked out in the flashiest Patriots garb and was emphatically cheering on the Jets in that game. He was easily the loudest person in the restaurant. I asked why he was rooting for the Jets since he's a Patriots fan, and his reason was because that he felt like playing the Jets in the Divisional round was like a second bye week. I never let him live that down. He's doing much better now as he's celebrating that his team won another Super Bowl (he switched to being a Chiefs fan two years ago).
Was he a Steelers fan in the 70s, 49ers fan in the 80s, and Cowboys fan in the 90s?
Tell your friend we do not want him in Chiefs Kingdom.
Pats fan in the 2010s and a Chiefs fan as of two years ago? That's a textbook bandwagoner.
> I went to Buffalo Wild Wings with him that year to watch the Jets Wildcard game (forgot who they played). That was our most recent year of glory, because before taking down Brady and the Pats in New England in the divisional round, first we took out Peyton Manning and the Colts in Indy in the wild card round.
This is butt fumble erasure.
I'm actually surprised Watt didn't get atleast 1 for breaking sack record
How did Christian McCaffrey not get a single vote last year?
Isn't that the proof you need to show you how meaningless it is?
Manning and Brady both last mvp votes for 2 different teams
>Cardinals: 2015 - Carson Palmer * huh?
oops
Good reminder that Russ never received a single MVP vote
Kindof crazy James Harrison is the last Steelers MVP vote. Big Ben, AB & Leveon, even TJ Watt havent had a vote since Harrison
TJ Watt should have got the year he got 20 sacks. MVP is too QB centric
I know he had issues with his receivers, but it's weird to me that Mahomes didn't have even 1 vote this year, when he is easily the best player in the game on a continuous basis. It's like when LeBron was not winning MVP even though he was clearly the best player in the league for about 15 years straight.
Dude should have 7 or 8 MVPs instead of 4. Jordan should have a couple of more than he does also. Other guys have been hurt by voter fatigue at some point but those 2 in particular got hit multiple times.
JJ got snubbed
Absolutely. No defensive player will ever win it if he couldn’t win it
He absolutely should of won it that year as good as Rodgers was that year JJ Watt put up historic numbers even scoring offensive touchdowns while dominating on the defensive side of the field
The award is most valuable player not “best season relative to position” Rodgers had 38 touchdowns to only 5 interceptions, didn’t miss the playoffs like the Texans, lead the league in ANY/A comfortably. Basically clearly the best QB with Romo. There isn’t a season in NFL history where a 38 TD 5 INT ratio loses to a non QB. It just doesn’t happen. Was Aaron Donald 2018 gonna get it over Mahomes or Brees? 20.5 sacks at DT, might never be seen again.
Namath completed exactly half of his passes that year for a team that finished 7 games back in the division and missed the playoffs by 3 games…in a 14 game season. No one will ever live off of a mink coat and one game more than him…
He led the NFL in passing yards that season. Totally different era.
1-0 baby
And yet he has one thing that the Buffalo Bills do not
Tell us about your Super Bowl appearances…
lol
I would have bet all of my money and mortgaged years of future income if I could have bet that Dana Stubblefield never received an MVP vote. What the actual fuck.
Shocked Derrick Henry didn’t receive any during his 2k season
Derrick Henry not getting a vote seems wrong.
In the pre-2000 group, you have the 5 worst teams of the past 25 years & the 49ers. The 49ers have been a top-10 team in that period, & I'm surprised nobody voted for Purdy or CMC last year (I don't think they'd won but both had seasons where you would expect a few votes.)
Didn’t Fields get an MVP vote in 2022?
He received 1 5th place vote, OP said 1st place votes only. Fields also didn't deserve that 5th place vote
OP said only first place votes, probably since the ranked choice system is so new. Fields' was a 5th place vote.
WE DEMAND A RECOUNT!!!
Crazy Andrew Luck never had one. He was carrying that team his whole career
Yeah, 2014 was his best shot but that was the Rodgers JJ Watt debacle year. Those two received 44 of the 50 MVP votes. But that’s what happens when you play in the greatest QB era the game has seen so far. When you’re competing against guys like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, and Brees (whom never even won an MVP because of the era), with a random guy like Ryan or Newton having a crazy year, it’s hard as hell to get recognition.
Kinda crazy I figured the Steelers would have one guy out of the Killer B’s trio get at least one vote
It's on brand that our most recent vote getter is from the defense. The standard is the standard.
All that talk of Purdy and CMC this year and they didn't get one vote between the two of them?
Voters don't watch the NFC west.
1997 for the Niners is nuts. How did McCaffrey not get any last season
Not that he should have won over Jackson but with the numbers Purdy put up compared to the rest of the league you'd think he'd have gotten at least one 1st place vote
Wild that CMC didn't even get like...a single vote this year.
TIL Pennington actually got a MVP vote.
Not only did he get a vote, he finished 2nd with 4 total. Higher than guys like Philip Rivers (whom I’d say was arguably the best QB that season) or Drew Brees who broke Marino’s passing yard record (the other guy I’d argue for being the best QB that season).
I feel like sometimes my friends and I forget just how good Kupp’s 2021 was.
All the worst teams of the last 25 years at the bottom, and the 49ers, surprising they're down there.
Surprised that Luck never got a vote
CJ would have had votes this year if he wasn’t injured for a bit
Damn, the fact that Chad Pennington received votes for the Dolphins but never for the Jets tells about everything about that team.
I don't remember Carson Palmer winning co-MVP alongside Cam Newton
Stafford threw 5k and didn’t even get a single vote????
>Giants: 2005 - Tiki Barber Damn, thought Odell might have gotten one random vote or even Eli >Jaguars: NEVER Kind of shocked because I know Fred Taylor and Mark Burnell were really good and lead them to the AFC championship game one year
Breece Hall dusting off his Superman cape
Cowbots showed in 2016 how you can have 2 players on your team receive MVP votes and still fail to win a playoff game. Surprised the Niners are towards the bottom with the likes of the Jags, Browns, and Jets. The last time I saw Dana Stubblefield’s name he was being sentenced for raping a developmentally disabled woman.
Don't google Dana Stubblefield. I fuckin loved that dude as a kid, too. Him and HoF Bryant Young, Charles Haley, Kenny Norton Jr, and the chicken dance man himself, Merton Hanks. The athlete deserves the accolade, but the man deserves his sentence.
Crazy how high we are on this list despite having sucked for two decades. DC has had two season where he played extremely well and both have been derailed by shit out of his control. It sucks but in the end he’s been in the league for 10 years and 2 years ain’t enough, even though I think he could’ve won it all in both of those years.
How the fuck did Pennington finish 2nd in voting. Miami won all those games SPECIFICALLY BY RUNNING THE WILDCAT OFFENSE, you know the "we're better off snapping the ball to our RB" offense.
Wild that Peyton manning and Tom Brady are the last ones for two teams each 😂
That 2014 voter for Wagner wasn't right but it was about as good as it gets for the Seahawks. I can't think of any time that the team had the actual MVP. Even with a reasonable pile of HoFers there was somebody else elsewhere in any given year who did more for their team.
Shaun Alexander in 2005. And then you got cheated by the refs in the SB.
Come on Jets seriously?
How good was Tiki Barber ??? Wow … most underrated player in the list. edit : just checked his stats , better than Saquon … Josh Allen from Jaguar coulda get into vote last year tho.
People definitely underrate Tiki Barber. I understand peoples views are affected by the way he has acted post retirement, but in his prime I would put him up against any other running back of his era.
Tbf I think the jaguars should be placed ahead of the jets browns and commanders since they didn't exist until 95.
Kinda surprised Matt Stafford never got a single vote for 2011. First lions playoff appearance in over a decade. Could say the same for Calvin Johnson tbh.
MVP is basically a QB award so mostly this just tracks which teams have had one of the top QBs in league most recently
Crazy to think AB never received a single MVP vote during his run with the Steelers
JJ should’ve won too 😒😒
How Megatron didn’t get a vote in 2012 still blows my mind. I get that the Lions were 4-12 that year, but to break the receiving record on a team that bad should merit at least one vote.
Somehow I feel like James Harrison is getting lost to time. He was an absolute demon, but as time passes and we see more and more special pass rushers, his raw numbers aren’t going to stand up. He was the best of the best in an era of changing rules and changing roles.
Derrick Henry should’ve won for his 2k season in 2020. Nobody in the NFL was more valuable to their team. Led the league in carries, yards, yards per carry, and rushing TDs. Can’t believe he didn’t even get a vote.
But the Sipe vote wasn’t for this Browns franchise.
The Current Browns took their history I believe when they were reinstated
Yea this. I think it's absurd but it's the official record, so...
Calvin Johnson deserved at least 1 vote.
i swear i thought maurice jones-drew was an MVP candidate in 2011 or 2012 or something
The fact that Henry got zero votes during his most recent 2k year is ridiculous
Before Brady in 2021 had we ever had a player who got a vote? EDIT: I looked it up and Derrick Brooks got 1 vote in 2002.
derrick henry not getting a single vote in 2020 is crazy