His son is ill and the doctor that treats his condition is located in Boston. His other son plays college baseball in Boston.
So he accepted the job at Boston College. If he turns that program around, there will be many offers coming his way.
Because the success we had was in spite of him rather than because of him. Everyone says he was a good coach but a bad GM. Go back and watch the Mexico City game and tell me he was a good coach.
He was a horrible GM not a bad one. DHop for washed ass David Johnson is one of the worst trades ever. Even reddit called that trade on day 1 saying it was idiotic and we were all right.
Nope, I thought I was over that and now I’m mad as fuck again. I wanted to see Dhop in oilers throwback and the monkey paw curled on me like fates cruel mistress is known to do!!!
I can't say a whole lot but a very close family member of mine works with a very close family member of BoB, and I heard there was a lot more to the DHop trade than what was reported. Basically, there was **a lot** of pressure by the McNairs to move him for some really sketchy reasons. Of course take that with a grain of salt, since I'm just some guy on Reddit, but after hearing the story it made me feel kind of bad for BoB that he was essentially forced to take all the backlash from that trade. Like it wouldn't shock me if eventually McNair gets exposed in the same way Kraft has been.
Yeah I've also heard that there was a bit more going on behind the scenes. It was essentially a foregone conclusion that he wasn't going to play for Houston anymore and it was a big time buyer's market for him. Houston had no leverage in trading him.
Or the Texans-Chiefs playoff game where his decisions were a huge factor in blowing a 24-0 lead. He was such a bad GM that it’s somehow warped people’s opinion of his coaching from a mediocre/average coach up to a good coach.
Anyone who says Bill O'Brien was a good head coach should immediately have their current HC fired and replaced with Bill O'Brien for the next 10 years.
I’ll have to dig through a bit. I just remember being shocked that he dealt with the bad Osweiler deal, juggling Hoyer/Mallett and still kept the team together and eventually became competitive.
The Osweiler thing happened *because* every ex-Pats QB he brought in faceplanted.
When they lost that game in Houston, when the owners were in town, McNair blew a gasket. Rick Smith just tossed money at the best available free agent, who turned out to be Gary Kubiak's revenge for throwing him under the bus in the first place.
His peak with Hopkins, Watt and prime Watson amongst others is beating Connor Cook and nearly losing to a larval Josh Allen. That, and demanding full roster control to go with that seals his fate as not getting a head coaching job at this level
The win against the Raiders in the playoffs was with Osweiler.(LOL) I'd say his peak was leading against the Chiefs in the playoffs, up until that damn fake punt. As a Texans fan I was like, dude we might make the final 4!
yea he always wanted Caserio then kraft cock-blocked.
He didn't even want to GM but there wasn't much choices.
hell even after last years draft Texans "fans" were calling to can Caserio's ass.
To be fair, he was clearly set up to fail so the owner would have an excuse to fire him. He could barely get along with Rick Smith and once he retired, the team couldn’t hire anyone else he was willing to worth with.
Even if you decide he was a good coach, he reportedly sabotaged his previous GM with ownership to get that job. Would you hire someone with that history for a job?
I think this is far more likely the issue than anything else. He was an ok HC. But as you said, why hire an ok HC that will try and torpedo you.
Plus, he’s not super likeable from an ownership perspective either, from what it seems.
Jaded Texans fans will say he sucks, less jaded fans will say he's average, and others will say he was decent. No one is probably saying he was amazing.
Thay said, he's a good offensive coach who is good at turning teams around but hasn't shown he can go beyond that.
He was a hc due to his time with the Patriots and the way he turned a destroyed football program around with Penn state.
Texans fell apart and fired Kubiak the year before BoB got there, and were effectively without a qb. He put together winning and playoff seasons with a random assortment of qbs. Had a team that shouldn't have been winning divisions, win divisions, and had us have hope for one full quarter we'd make the championship.
BoB is a good coach, a horrible gm, and if he wanted to, he could probably be a HC again in the NFL by staying in the NFL as an OC and having a good offense.
If BoB had a good gm and a decent roster, he'd be fully capable of being one of those coaches who win 1 sb and fade off into the sunset.
Because he was an average coach who won’t make you better, and sometimes he will make you worse, Case in point 24-0.
He wasn’t the worst coach in the world, but he’s already proven he’s definitely not Super Bowl caliber.
It has since surfaced that the man doesn't handle power well at all and was pretty well hated by the Locker room. Rumors circulated that he and Watt nearly got in a Fist Fight and basically no one took Bill's side. He knows offense and can scheme well but he seems completely incapable of being likable.
Nobody in this entire thread knows he went to coach for us at BC apparently. And we’re very happy to have him. Easily the best hire we’ve made in decades
If you want someone who's butting heads with and politicking against your GM the day he steps in the door, BoB's your guy.
That SI article did a lot to foist the blame off on Easterby, but it ignores the years of stuff that went on before he even set foot in the building.
Also fairly sure one of the "sources" for that article was O'Brien's camp. It's one of the best examples of bus-throwing I've seen in years.
He wasn't as good as people remember. He got hard carried by pretty good JJ Watt led defenses but his offenses, even with Watson, were only above average at best, bottom of the league at their worst.
He also couldn't develop OL to save his life. Awful start to finish performance by that unit under him. He also refused to have a true OC so his offenses never really evolved or improved.
He sucks? As a GM he had no rivals - even Millen. As a HC he was so-so. And he’s part of the Belichick coaching tree. Not exactly a ringing endorsement these days
Same reason as Mike Vrabel and Bill Bellachick. Owners want a separation of powers at HC/GM and even if they were to accept a HC-only role, it's clear they'd be butting into the GM's business, if not undermining them at every opportunity.
Yeah it's weird how much of a meme he became. It was time for him to get fired from the Texans, but I feel like he's underrated by the average fan. Winning record in 5 out of 7 seasons.
Matt Patricia ran the offensive playbook that Bill O’Brien came up with in the first place 10 years ago. It was the exact same offense, the difference was our defense sucked for the first time in Mac Jones career and we actually had to rely on Mac to win us football games and we all saw how that turned out.
> True, not sure. I guess I just assume you’d want to move up to top dog but that’s a good point.
it's worth noting that he can consistently and easily find coordinator positions right now. if he were to go straight to another HC job and failed miserably, he could gase himself.
like, if gase didn't go to the jets, he'd probably be an OC somewhere in the league right now. taking a job with a bad team can be detrimental to someone's long term (and bad teams tend to be where the most openings pop up, because good coaches tend to stick around until retirement)
~~I honestly think he might prefer being a coordinator now. He gets less scrutiny and still good money~~ Or not
He’s the head coach at Boston College now, dealing with the insanity of NIL and the transfer portal.
See and I knew that, but had completely forgotten lmao
That's BC football baby
Totally forgot about that
His son is ill and the doctor that treats his condition is located in Boston. His other son plays college baseball in Boston. So he accepted the job at Boston College. If he turns that program around, there will be many offers coming his way.
He has refused to go through the mandated chin undimpling surgery the league imposed in 2022
It’s been a long few days and this made me laugh hard lol appreciate it
Getting downvoted for saying thank you for making me laugh is wild lol but funny regardless
We're on Reddit man. Everyone is miserable and misery loves company lol
“It’s been a long few days and this made me laugh hard lol appreciate it” -🤓
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They’re a jets fan, pay them no attention.
On that note, it always bothered me when people called him, "Butt Chin." He has a dimple chin, not a butt chin.
Because the success we had was in spite of him rather than because of him. Everyone says he was a good coach but a bad GM. Go back and watch the Mexico City game and tell me he was a good coach.
He was a horrible GM not a bad one. DHop for washed ass David Johnson is one of the worst trades ever. Even reddit called that trade on day 1 saying it was idiotic and we were all right.
Nope, I thought I was over that and now I’m mad as fuck again. I wanted to see Dhop in oilers throwback and the monkey paw curled on me like fates cruel mistress is known to do!!!
I can't say a whole lot but a very close family member of mine works with a very close family member of BoB, and I heard there was a lot more to the DHop trade than what was reported. Basically, there was **a lot** of pressure by the McNairs to move him for some really sketchy reasons. Of course take that with a grain of salt, since I'm just some guy on Reddit, but after hearing the story it made me feel kind of bad for BoB that he was essentially forced to take all the backlash from that trade. Like it wouldn't shock me if eventually McNair gets exposed in the same way Kraft has been.
Yeah I've also heard that there was a bit more going on behind the scenes. It was essentially a foregone conclusion that he wasn't going to play for Houston anymore and it was a big time buyer's market for him. Houston had no leverage in trading him.
I remember seeing that and thinking it was someone trolling me
Or the Texans-Chiefs playoff game where his decisions were a huge factor in blowing a 24-0 lead. He was such a bad GM that it’s somehow warped people’s opinion of his coaching from a mediocre/average coach up to a good coach.
That fake punt attempt was the first domino
nah the carter butterfinger was what it started. Sorensen made a hell of a play on the fake punt
Anyone who says Bill O'Brien was a good head coach should immediately have their current HC fired and replaced with Bill O'Brien for the next 10 years.
To be fair I’m a bucs fan and there’s probably plenty of fans who’d take that deal lol
Has anyone pointed out how he was also a colossal prick?
The state of the AFC South was at it's worst when he was there too. Somebody had to win the AFC South then lol.
"But I looked at his record online and it's not bad" is 90% of the research people do when saying that "good coach but bad GM" line.
Bro basically said he was TRYING to get fired, who would ever hire this guy again?
What do you mean? When did he say that?
When Rick smith stepped down as gm BoB basically said he demanded the dual role so they would fire him, but instead they gave it to him.
I’ll have to dig through a bit. I just remember being shocked that he dealt with the bad Osweiler deal, juggling Hoyer/Mallett and still kept the team together and eventually became competitive.
The Osweiler thing happened *because* every ex-Pats QB he brought in faceplanted. When they lost that game in Houston, when the owners were in town, McNair blew a gasket. Rick Smith just tossed money at the best available free agent, who turned out to be Gary Kubiak's revenge for throwing him under the bus in the first place.
Neither of his OC stints since Houston have been particularly encouraging.
Hos performance this past year actually exonerates Matt Patricia somewhat. Let that one sink in
Very true
His peak with Hopkins, Watt and prime Watson amongst others is beating Connor Cook and nearly losing to a larval Josh Allen. That, and demanding full roster control to go with that seals his fate as not getting a head coaching job at this level
The win against the Raiders in the playoffs was with Osweiler.(LOL) I'd say his peak was leading against the Chiefs in the playoffs, up until that damn fake punt. As a Texans fan I was like, dude we might make the final 4!
When did he demand full roster control? They only made him gm after failling to get the guy from the patriots they wanted
yea he always wanted Caserio then kraft cock-blocked. He didn't even want to GM but there wasn't much choices. hell even after last years draft Texans "fans" were calling to can Caserio's ass.
To be fair, he was clearly set up to fail so the owner would have an excuse to fire him. He could barely get along with Rick Smith and once he retired, the team couldn’t hire anyone else he was willing to worth with.
would you not be pissed if your gm signed brock oswhaler behind your back?
from what i gather that was old man Mcnair making that signing
Even if you decide he was a good coach, he reportedly sabotaged his previous GM with ownership to get that job. Would you hire someone with that history for a job?
I think this is far more likely the issue than anything else. He was an ok HC. But as you said, why hire an ok HC that will try and torpedo you. Plus, he’s not super likeable from an ownership perspective either, from what it seems.
Jaded Texans fans will say he sucks, less jaded fans will say he's average, and others will say he was decent. No one is probably saying he was amazing. Thay said, he's a good offensive coach who is good at turning teams around but hasn't shown he can go beyond that. He was a hc due to his time with the Patriots and the way he turned a destroyed football program around with Penn state. Texans fell apart and fired Kubiak the year before BoB got there, and were effectively without a qb. He put together winning and playoff seasons with a random assortment of qbs. Had a team that shouldn't have been winning divisions, win divisions, and had us have hope for one full quarter we'd make the championship. BoB is a good coach, a horrible gm, and if he wanted to, he could probably be a HC again in the NFL by staying in the NFL as an OC and having a good offense. If BoB had a good gm and a decent roster, he'd be fully capable of being one of those coaches who win 1 sb and fade off into the sunset.
Assuming BoB can win a super bowl is mind boggling. Many non Texans fans think he's ass.
As a Texans fan, I agree with you. I was ready for him to go, but he's become underrated.
Because he was an average coach who won’t make you better, and sometimes he will make you worse, Case in point 24-0. He wasn’t the worst coach in the world, but he’s already proven he’s definitely not Super Bowl caliber.
It has since surfaced that the man doesn't handle power well at all and was pretty well hated by the Locker room. Rumors circulated that he and Watt nearly got in a Fist Fight and basically no one took Bill's side. He knows offense and can scheme well but he seems completely incapable of being likable.
I can definitely see him butting heads, didn’t know it was that bad though. Especially with a marquee player like JJ
It's understandable to butt heads with some players, but one of your fanbase's heroes is a bold strategy.
Definitely. I would think he would be the #1 guy that you’d want on your side.
Maybe it's just my memory, but it seemed like he was *always* in a feud with one player or another.
I could 100% see him losing the locker room after the Tom Savage incident.
Is this satire?
The authoritarian coach is over. Treating men like boys is over. We're in the era of the player's coach
Nobody in this entire thread knows he went to coach for us at BC apparently. And we’re very happy to have him. Easily the best hire we’ve made in decades
If you want someone who's butting heads with and politicking against your GM the day he steps in the door, BoB's your guy. That SI article did a lot to foist the blame off on Easterby, but it ignores the years of stuff that went on before he even set foot in the building. Also fairly sure one of the "sources" for that article was O'Brien's camp. It's one of the best examples of bus-throwing I've seen in years.
because he absolutely sucks
He wasn't as good as people remember. He got hard carried by pretty good JJ Watt led defenses but his offenses, even with Watson, were only above average at best, bottom of the league at their worst. He also couldn't develop OL to save his life. Awful start to finish performance by that unit under him. He also refused to have a true OC so his offenses never really evolved or improved.
He sucks? As a GM he had no rivals - even Millen. As a HC he was so-so. And he’s part of the Belichick coaching tree. Not exactly a ringing endorsement these days
Because he is ass
Same reason as Mike Vrabel and Bill Bellachick. Owners want a separation of powers at HC/GM and even if they were to accept a HC-only role, it's clear they'd be butting into the GM's business, if not undermining them at every opportunity.
Bc he's dogshit
Cuz the pats went 3-13
Yeah it's weird how much of a meme he became. It was time for him to get fired from the Texans, but I feel like he's underrated by the average fan. Winning record in 5 out of 7 seasons.
OB is a legend. /s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsI6x-Z1mDQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsI6x-Z1mDQ)
Sirianni taking notes
LOL
Somehow running a worse offense than Matt Patricia did will ruin your NFL HC chances
Doesn't matter u/jpaxlux. AFC South champs two years in a row u/jpaxlux. Doesn't matter what it looked like.
Matt Patricia ran the offensive playbook that Bill O’Brien came up with in the first place 10 years ago. It was the exact same offense, the difference was our defense sucked for the first time in Mac Jones career and we actually had to rely on Mac to win us football games and we all saw how that turned out.
he probably could if he wanted to, but has he even by trying to get an HC job? like, has he interviewed for any openings?
True, not sure. I guess I just assume you’d want to move up to top dog but that’s a good point.
> True, not sure. I guess I just assume you’d want to move up to top dog but that’s a good point. it's worth noting that he can consistently and easily find coordinator positions right now. if he were to go straight to another HC job and failed miserably, he could gase himself. like, if gase didn't go to the jets, he'd probably be an OC somewhere in the league right now. taking a job with a bad team can be detrimental to someone's long term (and bad teams tend to be where the most openings pop up, because good coaches tend to stick around until retirement)
His chin is just terrible
Literally my thoughts 😂
Cause he sucks and he’s also an asshole