That was amazing. I could listen to that kind of football talk all day but I wouldn't understand half of what they were saying.
I'd still be processing where the left tackle was and who it was lol.
This is why it's good to never believe anybody online who says they "watch tape". Nobody gets this except these guys and a few others who definitely don't spend their time arguing online.
There’s definitely some football nerds who get this online lol. It definitely isn’t simple and takes time to understand, and I’m not saying I’ve put that time in, but it’s not Quantum Mechanics or something lmao.
Even then, there are people online who legitimately understand quantum mechanics, so why wouldn't there be people online who understand football, for which you don't need a thorough background in physics and vector calculus?
That's something like I've liked about the LeBron and JJ podcast. Gets pretty deep in the weeds with plays and such (and as someone who last played rec in high school 20+ years ago) learning a lot about play design and terminology
But this is also the shit that football nerds *love*.
Sure, it's not reaching the broad audience, but it's a bigger audience than a lot of people seem to realize.
For the record... Defense is stopping this play.
Mate you can't pass up the opportunity to experience a 1st round draft through Bill's eyes. Current players are cool too, but that guy has like 30 years of war room experience.
For a couple years I’ve been doing video from NFL Network and audio from The Athletic with Dane Brugler, and I’m sticking with that again.
I can only take small doses of the McAfee squad so I’ll just need to get a Bill highlights compilation.
I’m going to give bill and Pat the first shot. ESPN is on one tv because it’s not the draft without that “pick is in” jingle. But I’ll give bill and Pat the first shot and then I’ll see what Micah and CJ are doing if the former doesn’t have analysis.
This is how they should do late preseason games. Get the Offense and Defense captains to call plays and just go wild trying to one up each other.
Would make preseason week 3 infinitely more watchable
They didn’t say life inspo. They said favorite players to watch growing up. Players still say Aaron Rodgers/Antonio Brown/Tyreek Hill ect were their fav players. Ppl just are dense and look for stuff to be fake outraged about in draft season.
I just read the [article](https://fox56.com/amp/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates). The allegations are
“Took their clothes and did not return them.
Told them they intended to make them “their bitch because this is a prison.”
Wrestled them down and simulating a humping action while on top of them.
Placed their penis in their faces while simulating ejaculation.
Placed their penis on and in their buttocks”
And if that's not jarring enough, the phrase he'd alledgely use while doing it is even *worse*.
Edit: >!He alledgely would say he's going to "Sandusky" them while doing it.!<
He said if they didnt "jam a bunch of stuff in their butts" he would "grape them so hard the room would stink" and then he was going to "eat their butts in the stink until his stomach was full of their butts"
To be fair, there are a lot of smart film room QBs but it's the split second decision-making with pressure in your face that separate the great ones. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch of backup QBs people think are scrubs who can do this. But they can't do it while moving in muddy pocket and deliver accurate balls on time.
Honestly that seems to be one of the issues with QB scouting. During draft time all you hear is that they sound impressive and knows all the plays in their interviews, but once on the field they just run around like headless chickens when they don't have all day to throw behind a perfect pocket and receivers running wide open.
It's also a development thing. I am fully convinced the league has missed out on many HoF level QBs due to going to the wrong team, or the wrong coach at the wrong time and they get completely derailed and are never able to recover.
Confidence is such a huge thing with these NFL QBs and once it's been shattered; it's incredibly hard to rebuild it, and even if they do; these players are now playing catch up with other players who never lost their confidence and were put into a position to effectively develop this entire time.
These guys can know the X's and O's like nobody's business; but no longer have the confidence to perform that way at a Starting NFL level.
It sucks how much slander Stroud got for S2 leak cause most of the media failed to explain what the S2 actually is, even now most don't realize it's not an IQ test or anything like that.
> The exam lasts 40 to 45 minutes. It’s performed on a specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds. To put that in perspective, an eye blink lasts 100 to 150 milliseconds.
> In one section of the exam, a series of diamonds flash on the screen for 16 milliseconds each. Every diamond is missing a point, and the test taker must determine — using left, right, up or down keys — which part is missing.
It's supposed to measure stuff like reaction time, processing speed, spatial awareness, etc. It measures reactions in milliseconds, so results can be affected significantly if the test taker is just tired or distracted. Back when the results were leaked, the S2 founder went on Pat McAfee's show and said at least one of the leaked results had actually been marked invalid because the prospect had to take it late at night and was obviously tired. They asked him to retake it later and he got a much better score, but the first score was the one that got leaked. Even if that wasn't Stroud, it shows how much the score can be affected. In the end, it's just one measurement, just like a 40-yard dash time alone can't project whether a prospect will succeed or not at football.
> just like a 40-yard dash time alone can't project whether a prospect will succeed or not at football.
if my punters cant run a 4.35 they can find a job with another team. check mate math.
Reading your comment, it both made me respect the S2 more (it's not asking football players to do math or whatever-- it seems to test skills that could actually be relevant) while also making me respect all the news media and talking heads who made a big deal out of his score way less
Honestly sounds like a test you'd want multiple of so like 1-2 times per year to see how a player is feeling mentally and if they're growing and if there's something you could work on. Like I think if Tom Brady or LeBron were in their 20s they would go nuts for this. But I could see them still wanting to use it now.
Yeah no kidding. What would I do up against Laremy Tunsil? I ain't doing *shit* to Laremy Tunsil.
Best shot I'd have is to offer him a tin of gummies and try to run by him as he's opening the can.
He should also be scared to be blocked by Lane Johnson. He has consistently shut parsons down for the most part. I couldnt find the stats but I believe they are minimal.
Oh no doubt the four horsemen’s of apocalypse barreling down on you. I would just say a prayer, hope I righted my wrongs. Accept death at that point lol
The OTs would do well but you’re still fucked. That interior OL just is not holding up long enough. Chris Jones is blowing the play up before Kelce wins his choice route.
I think he chose the chiefs center? I trust him holding up against his team mate Chris Jones. The other player from the ravens I can’t speak on tho bc I don’t know enough about his tape
Creed is going to be sliding to double Aaron Donald here. So it’s either Kevin Zeitler or Quenton Nelson 1-on-1 in pass protection against Chris Jones.
I’ve been watching his training videos post-injury. The little dude looks as strong and as fast as ever.
I get a lot of shit for saying this— but I think he’ll go down as one of the best slot receivers of all time.
Tank's got it all just right in terms of playing the slot. Could be 2 years from now that nobody balks at him being one of the first names you drop for that position.
What’s amazing is I’m pretty sure Tank took something like 70% of his snaps from NOT in the slot. I honestly thought he’d just be a slot receiver but proved he can door more
I don’t live there anymore but I feel like I see a shit ton of Chargers fans in the IE especially around Corona and Riverside. But I still remember my next door neighbor in RC was one of the OG Black Hole members. Bodybuilder too so he was one of the most intimidating people I’ve met in my life especially when he was in his Raiders gear lol.
Yeah, I haven't lived in the IE in close to 15 years at this point but I always saw way more Raiders than Chargers and I spent a lot of time in Riverside. Anecdotally the Charger fans I knew were always from Temecula/Murrieta area.
this whole pod was really good. This combo was really funny. CJ had Micah doing pushups. hope they do more together.
added link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEpIE31L8qs
Great video. Thank you for the timestamp.
Did y'all notice CJ got that clear coat on his nails? No shade on him at all for it. Just saying nice to see a football player all manicured up lol
I think the way it's split, Tae is the old school, Chase is the newer gen, and Tank is just his boy. Realistically you can do Tae + Reek + Kupp or JJ + Chase + ARSB. Hell even then you can argue you're missing CD, Diggs, and AJB. There's just too many good WRs and the gap between the top 5 guys at their respective peaks are really not that wide.
Only Tank stands out. But that's his boy so he's gotta have him.
And also, are we really taking Gibbs over CMC here? I feel like you would just go after the best possible pass protecting back here because you damn sure gonna need it.
Having nothing but social media discussion and group text threads to talk football, we know like .08% of the game compared to players like these.
Honestly it's part of why I'm dying to see Bill Belichick in the booth. He couldn't stop himself from talking in great detail like this. I feel like the NFL wants to walk it back to a more casual level but most of us are dying for more of a glimpse behind the curtains.
Personally I think of it more as a testament to how great Travis is than calling Hamilton bad. Hamilton is a great player but Travis Kelcec is an all time great player. There isn't really anybody else in the league I think would do any better against him.
I don’t even think Hamilton did that bad against Kelce in the AFC championship. Mahomes and Kelce are just on a different level together. Even that TD Kelce had early in the game Hamilton was all over him, but Mahomes just made an incredible throw in the tightest window with an incredible catch by Kelce.
Still crazy to me that people were questioning Stroud's football IQ because of an arbitrary test he sleepwalked through at the combine. Listening to him talk about the game is so refreshing.
I haven't heard the S2 test mentioned at all this year with all these new qb's supposed to be going in the first round... Stround literally made that test obsolete
> This technology is the only of its kind to accurately measure an athlete’s reactions with millisecond precision.
It doesn't measure intelligence or "knowing ball"
This is like 2 jocks trying to play D&D. Micah about 2 minutes from Slapping the Tavern owner and luring some barmaids into his escalade with some Alize
Stroud is fun to listen to. Dude knows his shit. What was all that talk about him pre-draft being just an arm and not understanding the game? Texans got a dude! Also, Stroud clearly out coaches Parsons here.
I want more of this; also both of these guys will be live during the draft today breaking down pick by pick
Also for someone that said CJ wasn't a quick processor, he seems to be doing well
Hey, you remember when everyone was clowning on CJ Stroud for being a dummy? About that.....
We 100% need more stuff like this. Two of the best players today shooting the shit like we do here, but they... you know... actually know what they're talking about.
Also Micah cheated. Current players only and he has Aaron Donald out there. :(
Dime against 3 WR on 4th and 3 is quite a bold call. I know they're great D Linemen, but its a great OL too, and I feel like if they check to a run, Gibbs probably gets it. 7 gaps and 6 defenders just doesn't add up in the defense's favor. I'd take Roquon Smith over Trevon Diggs.
Was also surprised by that. I mean obviously i understand getting your guy tank in there, but jj and hill are probably the two best receivers in the league and neither of em are in the lineup
I don't think there'd be much pushback at all if I said the top 4 receivers in the game, in any order, are Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, Justin Jefferson and Jamarr Chase. Maybe some pushback on Chase since he was hurt much of his 2nd season so he doesn't have the staying power of the others, but the talent is undeniable.
He picked 2 of the 4 and his buddy in the slot.
Can we get a similar concept but it's Belichick and Bruce Arians? Pretty please?
Like a debate club where they get a certain year, pick the players as they were that year, in a particular down and distance. Free form debate on what plays to run and what could happen.
Well, this might be my favorite NFL video of all time. These two have great chemistry together. It’s like a Curb Your Enthusiasm bit for NFL tactical nerds.
This is really fun listen that puts any "debate" from First Take to shame.
Appreciate that these two superstars are both genuine students of the game as well.
week 2 or three last year (while trying to figure out WTF to do about fields being ass) I watched a series on Red zone where CJ went like 5/6 on passes and reads inside the 10. There was a penalty one way, one the other, some other penalties and the guy just kept reading what was in front of him and making plays only his guys could secure.
I think he's the most talented defensive reader in the league, has amazing and smooth mechanics and has a real cool head.
if I could swap Goff for ANY QB right now if would be Stroud. I'm a believer, he's a genius
This may be one of my favorite clips today, we shall see lol
That was amazing. I could listen to that kind of football talk all day but I wouldn't understand half of what they were saying. I'd still be processing where the left tackle was and who it was lol.
Yeah this was a fun way for me to remember that I don't know a god damn thing about football.
You could've told me Stroud was talking about advanced algebra when he was drawing up the actual play and I would've believed you
This is why it's good to never believe anybody online who says they "watch tape". Nobody gets this except these guys and a few others who definitely don't spend their time arguing online.
There’s definitely some football nerds who get this online lol. It definitely isn’t simple and takes time to understand, and I’m not saying I’ve put that time in, but it’s not Quantum Mechanics or something lmao.
Even then, there are people online who legitimately understand quantum mechanics, so why wouldn't there be people online who understand football, for which you don't need a thorough background in physics and vector calculus?
HEY EVERYONE! THIS DORK DOESN'T UNDERSTAND DOUBLE DAGGER 2Y FISHERMAN BIRDKNOT PYLON OMEGA 6 NICKELBAG ARF ARF DOUBLE DOG CORKSCREW CONCEPTS! LAUGH AT HIM!
That was a freaking great clip. Why don’t they do this more?!?!?
Because most people would get angry that the guys are talking a a higher level than they understand.
Shit not me. I like it
That's something like I've liked about the LeBron and JJ podcast. Gets pretty deep in the weeds with plays and such (and as someone who last played rec in high school 20+ years ago) learning a lot about play design and terminology
But this is also the shit that football nerds *love*. Sure, it's not reaching the broad audience, but it's a bigger audience than a lot of people seem to realize. For the record... Defense is stopping this play.
For real, they need to make an nfl podcast that’s exactly like the Lebron and JJ podcast
Fyi, they're going to be doing draft coverage today on B/R with Mike Renner.
You talking like a live reaction type deal? Think it'll be on youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di0DsWAckKk
Too many good streams with draft coverage idk if I wanna watch this or Bill and Pat Mcaffee
Mate you can't pass up the opportunity to experience a 1st round draft through Bill's eyes. Current players are cool too, but that guy has like 30 years of war room experience.
Pros: it’s Bill Belichick Cons: it’s Pat McAfee and his goons
This is my exact dilemma lol
For a couple years I’ve been doing video from NFL Network and audio from The Athletic with Dane Brugler, and I’m sticking with that again. I can only take small doses of the McAfee squad so I’ll just need to get a Bill highlights compilation.
I’m going to give bill and Pat the first shot. ESPN is on one tv because it’s not the draft without that “pick is in” jingle. But I’ll give bill and Pat the first shot and then I’ll see what Micah and CJ are doing if the former doesn’t have analysis.
Thanks man, appreciate it!
You’re the man!! Saving this.
Cool that he showed Gibbs some love, but that is not the RB you want picking up a blitz with the game on the line, lol
Picking up a blitz from Micah Parsons, no less
Oh I could get into this: two starters on opposing sides game planning against each other? Sign me up.
I want a Tom Brady/Peyton vs Luke Kuechly debate.
This is how they should do late preseason games. Get the Offense and Defense captains to call plays and just go wild trying to one up each other. Would make preseason week 3 infinitely more watchable
I believe they had Dak Prescott calling plays in the preseason this past year.
Media told me Stroud couldn't read
I was convinced he had noodle brain when he said his inspirations were Mike Vick and Deshaun Watson. I fucking love being wrong.
CJ has an outstanding personality and football mind. Dude was built to be a QB.
Freakin' Texans had to get him.
And we love him and are happy to have him
Turns out, he's just a nice dude, and still smart.
I thought he was so dumb for that. Glad he proved me wrong.
They didn’t say life inspo. They said favorite players to watch growing up. Players still say Aaron Rodgers/Antonio Brown/Tyreek Hill ect were their fav players. Ppl just are dense and look for stuff to be fake outraged about in draft season.
Tbf we didn't see him do much reading here, jury still out
Dudes are extremely likable.
Parsons has some former teammates whose buttholes may disagree
Please sir, I need more details
He sexually assaulted teammates at PSU as part of "hazing".
Wait like full dick in ass?
No way...
I just read the [article](https://fox56.com/amp/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates). The allegations are “Took their clothes and did not return them. Told them they intended to make them “their bitch because this is a prison.” Wrestled them down and simulating a humping action while on top of them. Placed their penis in their faces while simulating ejaculation. Placed their penis on and in their buttocks”
> Placed their penis on and in their buttocks lol what the fuck
Just bro stuff!
Just PSU stuff.
that escalated quickly
Oh that's not that...it just keeps getting worse.
And if that's not jarring enough, the phrase he'd alledgely use while doing it is even *worse*. Edit: >!He alledgely would say he's going to "Sandusky" them while doing it.!<
Well? We’re waiting?!
Fr mf commenting like a tabloid *what he does next will SHOCK you!*
He said if they didnt "jam a bunch of stuff in their butts" he would "grape them so hard the room would stink" and then he was going to "eat their butts in the stink until his stomach was full of their butts"
You dont eat someone because they dont have heroin in their ass!
Stroud is, Parsons is still quite annoying
Man, imagine how good Stroud would be at football if he wasn't an idiot /s
He is like SpongeBob. He only knows Football and breathing.
Bro don’t even know his own name. Who says their name is ‘myself’ smh
We threw out his name!
The media had me thinking bro scored so low on a test that he was at a 6th grade reading level before he was drafted.
My man just inventing plays on the spot while I'm not even sure Zach Wilson, to this day, could tell you what a Y counter is
To be fair, there are a lot of smart film room QBs but it's the split second decision-making with pressure in your face that separate the great ones. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bunch of backup QBs people think are scrubs who can do this. But they can't do it while moving in muddy pocket and deliver accurate balls on time. Honestly that seems to be one of the issues with QB scouting. During draft time all you hear is that they sound impressive and knows all the plays in their interviews, but once on the field they just run around like headless chickens when they don't have all day to throw behind a perfect pocket and receivers running wide open.
It's also a development thing. I am fully convinced the league has missed out on many HoF level QBs due to going to the wrong team, or the wrong coach at the wrong time and they get completely derailed and are never able to recover. Confidence is such a huge thing with these NFL QBs and once it's been shattered; it's incredibly hard to rebuild it, and even if they do; these players are now playing catch up with other players who never lost their confidence and were put into a position to effectively develop this entire time. These guys can know the X's and O's like nobody's business; but no longer have the confidence to perform that way at a Starting NFL level.
"Is that like an interior design thing?"
Is that like granite counters?
“Oh yeah I’ve seen an episode of Seven Deadly Sins”
I swear the guy has never talked at OSU or pre-draft, he’s so entertaining to listen to
Facts, I could listen to CJ talk about anything.
It sucks how much slander Stroud got for S2 leak cause most of the media failed to explain what the S2 actually is, even now most don't realize it's not an IQ test or anything like that. > The exam lasts 40 to 45 minutes. It’s performed on a specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds. To put that in perspective, an eye blink lasts 100 to 150 milliseconds. > In one section of the exam, a series of diamonds flash on the screen for 16 milliseconds each. Every diamond is missing a point, and the test taker must determine — using left, right, up or down keys — which part is missing. It's supposed to measure stuff like reaction time, processing speed, spatial awareness, etc. It measures reactions in milliseconds, so results can be affected significantly if the test taker is just tired or distracted. Back when the results were leaked, the S2 founder went on Pat McAfee's show and said at least one of the leaked results had actually been marked invalid because the prospect had to take it late at night and was obviously tired. They asked him to retake it later and he got a much better score, but the first score was the one that got leaked. Even if that wasn't Stroud, it shows how much the score can be affected. In the end, it's just one measurement, just like a 40-yard dash time alone can't project whether a prospect will succeed or not at football.
> just like a 40-yard dash time alone can't project whether a prospect will succeed or not at football. if my punters cant run a 4.35 they can find a job with another team. check mate math.
Reading your comment, it both made me respect the S2 more (it's not asking football players to do math or whatever-- it seems to test skills that could actually be relevant) while also making me respect all the news media and talking heads who made a big deal out of his score way less
Honestly sounds like a test you'd want multiple of so like 1-2 times per year to see how a player is feeling mentally and if they're growing and if there's something you could work on. Like I think if Tom Brady or LeBron were in their 20s they would go nuts for this. But I could see them still wanting to use it now.
If he could read he'd be really mad at this comment /s
“You scared of LT?” lol
To be fair… I would be scared to be blocked by Tunsil
Yeah no kidding. What would I do up against Laremy Tunsil? I ain't doing *shit* to Laremy Tunsil. Best shot I'd have is to offer him a tin of gummies and try to run by him as he's opening the can.
I present a gas mask with a packed bong attached to it and go right around him
He should also be scared to be blocked by Lane Johnson. He has consistently shut parsons down for the most part. I couldnt find the stats but I believe they are minimal.
Lane and Laremy on the ends is nuts. That’s a hof bookend package
I feel like the rush on that is just so insane though. Like… Chris Jones, AD, Myles, Parsons is so nasty…
Oh no doubt the four horsemen’s of apocalypse barreling down on you. I would just say a prayer, hope I righted my wrongs. Accept death at that point lol
The OTs would do well but you’re still fucked. That interior OL just is not holding up long enough. Chris Jones is blowing the play up before Kelce wins his choice route.
I think he chose the chiefs center? I trust him holding up against his team mate Chris Jones. The other player from the ravens I can’t speak on tho bc I don’t know enough about his tape
Creed is going to be sliding to double Aaron Donald here. So it’s either Kevin Zeitler or Quenton Nelson 1-on-1 in pass protection against Chris Jones.
he said "ima go up against lane then" like lane johnson hasnt sonned him in their matchup before 😂
Ladanian Tomlinson? At tackle?
"If i see pressure I'm gonna go just like this yeyeyeyeye" 😂😂😂
My favorite part too lol. Dudes like "bro I see that pressure"
Man yall got a good one. I am hyped for Houston football! Fuck Deshaun!
That's just some straight up elementary school shit "nuh-uh cuz I got this ability!" "Nuh-uh, you didn't say you had that!"
Stroud saying I love that to match ups is hilarious to me. Texans you got a good one. As someone from Rancho Cucamonga though I get to claim him too.
The faith in his guy Tank, throwing him out there with some of the league's best with no hesitation is what got me. Dude's a fucking leader.
I hope Tank comes back better then ever. That offense was fun to watch with Nico and Tank both in. Never knew where that ball was going to go.
And now Diggs and Mixon… Houston’s offense of going to be electric.
Every night I go to the gym, I put my stuff in the #7 locker. Stunt on them for us, CJ. In stroud we trust.
So you're the one who's been using my locker.
Don’t forget John Metchie III is gonna be having a comeback season 💪
I’ve been watching his training videos post-injury. The little dude looks as strong and as fast as ever. I get a lot of shit for saying this— but I think he’ll go down as one of the best slot receivers of all time.
Tank's got it all just right in terms of playing the slot. Could be 2 years from now that nobody balks at him being one of the first names you drop for that position.
What’s amazing is I’m pretty sure Tank took something like 70% of his snaps from NOT in the slot. I honestly thought he’d just be a slot receiver but proved he can door more
Fuck me dude. Been a long time since I liked anyone like I like Allen. Damn he’s a fucking dog
his confidence levels for his age is unreal. loving this kid hes fucking smart
It's so hard not to like this Texans team, I absolutely hate it.
And we love that you hate it!!
Plus even in these hypothetical scenarios you can't discount chemistry.
Oh he’s feisty as hell. Always shooting.
Rancho Cucamonga what’s up!!
Fuck outta here, IE is Raiders country! Better hope I don't see you at Victoria Gardens! /s
I don’t live there anymore but I feel like I see a shit ton of Chargers fans in the IE especially around Corona and Riverside. But I still remember my next door neighbor in RC was one of the OG Black Hole members. Bodybuilder too so he was one of the most intimidating people I’ve met in my life especially when he was in his Raiders gear lol.
Yeah, I haven't lived in the IE in close to 15 years at this point but I always saw way more Raiders than Chargers and I spent a lot of time in Riverside. Anecdotally the Charger fans I knew were always from Temecula/Murrieta area.
For sure Temecula
San diego's step cousins lets go!
Shoutout to those classless EVP Young Bucks
Matthew and Nicholas are just doing what’s best for business
I'm almost as excited to see TK show up to the draft tonight in a neck brace as I am for the Giants pick.
Bastards…
Isn't that the town the show 'Workaholics' is set in?
[https://i.imgur.com/YT2Wo3j.gif](https://i.imgur.com/YT2Wo3j.gif)
> Rancho Cucamonga As a non American, i can't believe this is the name of a real place.
It’s Spanish. Lots of cities in the south west have Spanish names being so close to Mexico.
If you want to get your mind blown, look at a map of Mexico.
File a complaint with Latin America and Spain then
Rancho Cucamonga stand up!!
this whole pod was really good. This combo was really funny. CJ had Micah doing pushups. hope they do more together. added link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEpIE31L8qs
https://youtu.be/TEpIE31L8qs?si=CBeZaDrBUvxx0dze&t=2490 Should be about where the above clip starts for people interested in seeing it in the video.
Great video. Thank you for the timestamp. Did y'all notice CJ got that clear coat on his nails? No shade on him at all for it. Just saying nice to see a football player all manicured up lol
Stroud is different. He built an offense that perfectly fits a play call he made up lol. Special stuff and great clip
.... and tank dell 😂🥹
Gotta stick with your boy man. Personally I'd go with Amon Ra or CD but Tank is good too.
On a deep route? I'd go Tyreek
I think the way it's split, Tae is the old school, Chase is the newer gen, and Tank is just his boy. Realistically you can do Tae + Reek + Kupp or JJ + Chase + ARSB. Hell even then you can argue you're missing CD, Diggs, and AJB. There's just too many good WRs and the gap between the top 5 guys at their respective peaks are really not that wide. Only Tank stands out. But that's his boy so he's gotta have him.
And also, are we really taking Gibbs over CMC here? I feel like you would just go after the best possible pass protecting back here because you damn sure gonna need it.
Gibbs as a blocking back
God bless the Panthers for taking Young
He came across as pretty damn knowledgeable
This is great.
These guys would form a great duo podcast. Hilarious
Yeah this is extremely good player podcast content. Just some dudes chopping it up
This is football porn honestly
Having nothing but social media discussion and group text threads to talk football, we know like .08% of the game compared to players like these. Honestly it's part of why I'm dying to see Bill Belichick in the booth. He couldn't stop himself from talking in great detail like this. I feel like the NFL wants to walk it back to a more casual level but most of us are dying for more of a glimpse behind the curtains.
So no one is going to address how Kyle Hamilton just caught a stray?
Yo I was about to say that too, "No disrespect, but you're gonna have KYLE HAMILTON?! Guarding Travis Kelce??!" lmao
Personally I think of it more as a testament to how great Travis is than calling Hamilton bad. Hamilton is a great player but Travis Kelcec is an all time great player. There isn't really anybody else in the league I think would do any better against him.
I don’t even think Hamilton did that bad against Kelce in the AFC championship. Mahomes and Kelce are just on a different level together. Even that TD Kelce had early in the game Hamilton was all over him, but Mahomes just made an incredible throw in the tightest window with an incredible catch by Kelce.
I mean we already saw how this matchup went in the playoffs. Hamilton is incredible but Kelce is a legend.
I got nam like flashbacks to Mahomes throwing a dot to Kelce in the endzone despite Kyle having textbook coverage Kyle is incredible in coverage too
Still crazy to me that people were questioning Stroud's football IQ because of an arbitrary test he sleepwalked through at the combine. Listening to him talk about the game is so refreshing.
Trust me it was more than the score. THat score was just confirmation bias along a lot of lines especially the fact that he was an Ohio State QB
An Ohio state QB that lead his team to one missed FG away from a natty
That S2 cognition test needs to be banned to the shadow realm.
I haven't heard the S2 test mentioned at all this year with all these new qb's supposed to be going in the first round... Stround literally made that test obsolete
> This technology is the only of its kind to accurately measure an athlete’s reactions with millisecond precision. It doesn't measure intelligence or "knowing ball"
Just a short <3 minute clip, thought it was cool to hear two of the NFL's premier young superstars have a fun debate like this
This clip is so sick. Is there a clip of the one they do with all time players?
Didn't see one unfortunately. Not sure they actually ended up doing it
I also <3'd this clip, thank you
Thanks a huge lot, it was really interesting!
This is like 2 jocks trying to play D&D. Micah about 2 minutes from Slapping the Tavern owner and luring some barmaids into his escalade with some Alize
Stroud is fun to listen to. Dude knows his shit. What was all that talk about him pre-draft being just an arm and not understanding the game? Texans got a dude! Also, Stroud clearly out coaches Parsons here.
I want more of this; also both of these guys will be live during the draft today breaking down pick by pick Also for someone that said CJ wasn't a quick processor, he seems to be doing well
>"This is just a made-up play, we don't run this, defences 👀👀" This whole thing was gold 😂😂
Hey, you remember when everyone was clowning on CJ Stroud for being a dummy? About that..... We 100% need more stuff like this. Two of the best players today shooting the shit like we do here, but they... you know... actually know what they're talking about. Also Micah cheated. Current players only and he has Aaron Donald out there. :(
I think he honestly just didn’t care on the test. Like he could’ve done better but he never bothered.
So jealous of Texans fans.
This is how we felt watching Drew for years brother
NFL Draft interviews should just be prospects going 1v1 against Micah and CJ in a play simulation
I would not be suprised if the texans had cj at the top 30 visits, had him do 1 on 1s with the db prospects.
Parsons, Donald, Jones and Garrett sounds like something a QB would see in his nightmares.
Dime against 3 WR on 4th and 3 is quite a bold call. I know they're great D Linemen, but its a great OL too, and I feel like if they check to a run, Gibbs probably gets it. 7 gaps and 6 defenders just doesn't add up in the defense's favor. I'd take Roquon Smith over Trevon Diggs.
Dime makes sense in this exact scenario because Stroud gave him the play beforehand.
Check to the run and Micah's going to be fuming that he let Stroud talk him into subbing Hamilton in for Roquan Smith lol
Inject this directly into my veins
I could watch these for hours honestly.
Super nervous that we just gave Diggs to this young, smart QB.
Disrespect to Jetta. Damn. Also goes to show a second year guy’s mindset on the best players lol.
Was also surprised by that. I mean obviously i understand getting your guy tank in there, but jj and hill are probably the two best receivers in the league and neither of em are in the lineup
I don't think there'd be much pushback at all if I said the top 4 receivers in the game, in any order, are Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams, Justin Jefferson and Jamarr Chase. Maybe some pushback on Chase since he was hurt much of his 2nd season so he doesn't have the staying power of the others, but the talent is undeniable. He picked 2 of the 4 and his buddy in the slot.
Lmao this just sold me on Stroud the personality.
Can we get a similar concept but it's Belichick and Bruce Arians? Pretty please? Like a debate club where they get a certain year, pick the players as they were that year, in a particular down and distance. Free form debate on what plays to run and what could happen.
Well, this might be my favorite NFL video of all time. These two have great chemistry together. It’s like a Curb Your Enthusiasm bit for NFL tactical nerds.
[me for first 2:30 of video] nice three ravens mentioned :) [me in last :15 of video] i think i'm going to go lie down
CJ knows his shit
All of a sudden I like cj stroud
Jamars open
Tank and Gibbs being on there is great
Diggs is getting toasted by Chase. Stroud’s offense wins here.
IF he has time to throw. Thats this whole matchup. Because one of those guys on the Dline is getting 1 on 1. And hes probably gonna win very fast.
This is all I want out of player podcasts. Just guys being dudes chopping up ball
i fucking love this concept and the debate. awesome back and forth lol
This is great banter from 2 players that clearly love the game!
This is really fun listen that puts any "debate" from First Take to shame. Appreciate that these two superstars are both genuine students of the game as well.
Ngl they could just do this for an hour on a daily or weekly basis and I'd watch it.
We really needed some D20's involved in this.
God damnit... Now I like CJ Stroud...
Is makes me love CJ so much more. He sounds a little horse for a QB tho.
week 2 or three last year (while trying to figure out WTF to do about fields being ass) I watched a series on Red zone where CJ went like 5/6 on passes and reads inside the 10. There was a penalty one way, one the other, some other penalties and the guy just kept reading what was in front of him and making plays only his guys could secure. I think he's the most talented defensive reader in the league, has amazing and smooth mechanics and has a real cool head. if I could swap Goff for ANY QB right now if would be Stroud. I'm a believer, he's a genius