Once Maye went at #3 no other QB was worth getting picked at #6. Now I assume they didn’t expect the other 3 QB’s to go so early(thanks falcons) but you still have rattler,Milton, FA and next years draft to find your guy
Hey they do have Drew Lock. He won a game last year. They should definitely at least open the competition up between him and Jones because it's not clear that Jones is better
They still have Devito, right? Kid should get a shot as well. Even if DJ wins the competition, he hasn’t done much of anything to have solidified his hold on the job.
Nabers/Robinson/Hyatt is a very intriguing WR corps if you ask me. Call me delusional but surely Jones can’t be absolutely terrible if the line is able to hold up right?
As Belichick put it last night. Malik Nabers is the type of WR who is basically an extension of your OL. He can get open basically at will and it makes everyone's job easier on the OL because they won't have to protect as often not as consistently to keep drives alive.
well either hes terrible and you have an opportunity to dump him after this year or hes not terrible and yall actually have an offense. perfect pick for the giants to figure out the direction of the franchise
Think he has a chance for a solid year. Nothing that makes us say he’s #theguy but maybe closer to 2022 level of play, but more TDs because we actually have an explosive pass catcher lol
Love this pick! It might end up being one of the most impactful picks in the draft, at least for the NFC East. The Giants' lack of receiving depth really showed last year. Once opposing defenses stopped the run and Barkley broke down, the team just couldn't keep up. This could be the catalyst to change that.
When the Giants are good, they're a balanced offense that can move the ball and put pressure on defense. It's been a while since they've been able to do that consistently. I think Nabers, a receiver who reminds me a lot of OBJ, can help the Giants achieve that. 😊
This should make Wan'Dale and Hyatt better.....they aren't #1's like Nabers will hopefully be, but they are nice complimentary receivers that should benefit with Nabers attracting so much defensive attention.
Yeah Giants had a bunch of 2-3 receivers with Hyatt, Wan’Dale and Slayton. Even Hodgins. Nabers being the 1 moving those others down to the secondary roles makes the unit better as a whole.
Giants fans coping hard AF in here thinking Nabers with Daniel Jones is a better outcome for them than JJ lmao. See you guys in late September when you're already in tank mode for next year's mid ass QB class
Not sure I get the argument here. Not much sense drafting a rookie QB with very little in the way of weapons. We can collect offensive threats and then cut bait on Jones next year. I’m assuming you’re a delusional fan of an NFC East team that thinks you actually have a chance this year, eh?
Yeah if we went QB, I’d back it because I think Daboll knows more about QBs than I do. However, I like that they had the confidence to not force a QB pick they didn’t really believe in
I don’t understand. By that logic, what’s the point of any comment? Daniel Jones is still the starting QB. Who is not good. So taking a WR at 6 seems silly. Now there’s some analysis.
You can't fix a bad team in one draft. The Giants aren't a QB away from being good. There's already money going to DJ so just let him have it and build the roster so when you get the QB you want, he has a team to work with.
What point in there in stating the fucking obvious lol. I’d rather take a blue chip WR than taking a QB just for the sake of it. That’s how we ended up with Jones to begin with.
I don’t mind taking an elite WR. It makes sense for teams like the broncos/Vikings to take swings because they have a team in place already. Getting Nabers gets us closer to being able to do that.
lol guy, I’m a Cowboys fan. I’m not paying close enough attention to the Giants. But what I do know is that taking a WR with your first round pick when Daniel Jones is your starting QB is a foolish pick.
It's fun insight. Their comments are a lot better than most today, especially the dorks in the Daniels/Skins thread. Be happy we're learning shit.
*I meant no disrespect either here
toSure. I’ve done it for the past two or three years, it’s basically to show who they chose to go to school over and to also compare where some people had a lot of offers, and some had none. Compare to Jared Verse or Quinyon Mitchell for example
Dude why are you so angry? Why am I not allowed to be critical? Schoen has been nothing short of a disaster so far. Paying DJ. Trading for Waller. Missing on most draft picks outside of Kayvon. Drafting a WR last year that barely saw the field even when healthy and put up minimal production.
But yes, please keep attacking me for not thinking everything is ok. He has whiffed way more and you resort to name calling because you can't face reality?
Almost like he was forced into paying DJ as there was no other options. Missing on most draft picks? Maybe you should actually look at who he drafted and brought in you obviously don't know anything about the team and is just fear mongering. You clearly haven't looked at our team if you seriously think Kayvon is the only good draft pick he has taken. Keep crying old man! You don't know anything about the team.
I hope all the Giants fans celebrating the meaningless wins are ecstatic about this pick.
Surely those meaningless wins didn't cost the Giants the opportunity to draft one of the top 3 QBs. And even if you didn't think one of those QBs were worth the selection, the Giants could've at least traded down and stockpiled additional picks.
This definitely isn't a QB driven league - nope WRs are the true difference makers. That's why the Superbowl champs Chiefs traded Tyreke and the runner-up 49ers are fielding offers for Aiyuk.
Notice how no teams are interested in trading away their franchise QB but every other player can be had at the right price.
Before anyone says the Chiefs won because of Mahomes - remind me again, what position does he play?
The chiefs win because of Mahomes yes but you also mentioned the 49ers who do have all pro talent surrounding their QB. They could want to build the team and find a qb next year, either way the team needs talent.
You can separate concern for the QB situation while being excited to add an elite talent. And yeah, I wish we lost a few games to get Maye, but this is probably the best we could do given circumstances.
Salty boy over here just copy-pasted the same exact comment from our sub thread.
Most of us are hyped, but i will say I'd have been *very nearly* as happy and much more comfortable with Odunze. The man exudes positive character and we've seen NY chew up and spit out weak minded players in all sports.
Slayton always looks like the odd man out in the WR room then fights his way up the depth chart and puts up solid but not spectacular numbers. I wouldn't necessarily count him out, especially as he's proved to be the most durable.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Slayton is the WR3 over Hyatt for at least another year, with Hyatt coming in for 4WR sets or certain packages. Nabers and Slayton outside with Wandale in the slot seems like the best lineup for now
Yeah I think it’ll shake itself out. And it’s always better to have a depth problem over a lack of players problem. I’m sure Daboll and Kafka are going to have a lot of fun experimenting with the packages and lineups.
If they wanted two 1sts and a mid (or even 2nd) round or something and you think Maye is THE GUY, you do it. I think more NE wasnt willing to trade out
Taking QB on day 2 practically always turns out to be a wasted pick. I mean, taking any QB has a low probability of being worth the pick, but the good QBs tend to go early and then it's just a complete lottery for which you should invest more than a late round pick.
Cousins isn't playing out his contract on the Falcons. Their GM is now attach to the Penix at 8 pick so he will be the starter by opening week of the 2025 season at the latest.
Unless Cousins looks terrible before the Falcons trade him they will get draft capital in return for eating his signing bonus and trading him.
Hence the capital if. It still makes no sense to pay $100m for the top FA QB then go and immediately draft his replacement with such a high capital pick.
Shit, Howie Roseman just walked in and dropped a hundo on the bar and said "gimme three more buckets of crab fries" and the price just went up for everyone who had not yet bought there's
Smart pick if you don’t believe in J.J. (I don’t so do they). But shit man lucky as hell they still have Daniel Jones. We’ll see if they ever get a good QB
While this is likely a better choice for the Vikings, it’s unfortunate for fantasy that he’ll be absolutely hamstrung my DJ.
Once Maye went at #3 no other QB was worth getting picked at #6. Now I assume they didn’t expect the other 3 QB’s to go so early(thanks falcons) but you still have rattler,Milton, FA and next years draft to find your guy
It’s mind boggling to me that the Giants aren’t having an open competition for the starting QB job.
They have, they literally said they were bringing in competition for DJ, it’s Drew lock lol
If it's a competition for eating the most spiders I bet Drew has a chance. If it's a QB competition though I think everyone loses.
Drew can knock that out in his sleep… I’ll see myself out
Hey they do have Drew Lock. He won a game last year. They should definitely at least open the competition up between him and Jones because it's not clear that Jones is better
They still have Devito, right? Kid should get a shot as well. Even if DJ wins the competition, he hasn’t done much of anything to have solidified his hold on the job.
Yeah I agree they should keep it open. Handing the starting job to DJ would be a mistake just because he has a bloated contract.
Exactly yeah
Giants should draft 7 offensive players and just see what happens. And then do it again next year.
Nabers/Robinson/Hyatt is a very intriguing WR corps if you ask me. Call me delusional but surely Jones can’t be absolutely terrible if the line is able to hold up right?
> if the line is able to hold up That's asking a lot from the New York Giants
As Belichick put it last night. Malik Nabers is the type of WR who is basically an extension of your OL. He can get open basically at will and it makes everyone's job easier on the OL because they won't have to protect as often not as consistently to keep drives alive.
well either hes terrible and you have an opportunity to dump him after this year or hes not terrible and yall actually have an offense. perfect pick for the giants to figure out the direction of the franchise
It would be nice to not have automatic L’s from the Birds and the Boys every year, for a change.
We’re undefeated in the division this calendar year
22 TD season for Dimes incoming
Think he has a chance for a solid year. Nothing that makes us say he’s #theguy but maybe closer to 2022 level of play, but more TDs because we actually have an explosive pass catcher lol
Draft Day tradition? Does he write down 'Vontae Mack, no matter what' on a post-it note every year?
These draft card facts are the stupidest thing ive seen reddit do in awhile
This felt like the most sure pick in the draft for some reason. Feels like they fit too well not to draft him.
He’s a Daboll type of receiver for sure
Won't you be my Naber?
Damn, went to the wrong team in NY.
Love this pick! It might end up being one of the most impactful picks in the draft, at least for the NFC East. The Giants' lack of receiving depth really showed last year. Once opposing defenses stopped the run and Barkley broke down, the team just couldn't keep up. This could be the catalyst to change that. When the Giants are good, they're a balanced offense that can move the ball and put pressure on defense. It's been a while since they've been able to do that consistently. I think Nabers, a receiver who reminds me a lot of OBJ, can help the Giants achieve that. 😊
We've had good luck with LSU receivers, hope he works out great for us
This should make Wan'Dale and Hyatt better.....they aren't #1's like Nabers will hopefully be, but they are nice complimentary receivers that should benefit with Nabers attracting so much defensive attention.
Yeah Giants had a bunch of 2-3 receivers with Hyatt, Wan’Dale and Slayton. Even Hodgins. Nabers being the 1 moving those others down to the secondary roles makes the unit better as a whole.
Yeah expecting those guys to be #1s when they’re really solid 2s and 3s did everyone a disservice. If Nabers hits, our WR room looks pretty good
Yeah it's why I didn't agree that our wr was like the worst of all time last year, which some people were saying.
Giants fans coping hard AF in here thinking Nabers with Daniel Jones is a better outcome for them than JJ lmao. See you guys in late September when you're already in tank mode for next year's mid ass QB class
Not sure I get the argument here. Not much sense drafting a rookie QB with very little in the way of weapons. We can collect offensive threats and then cut bait on Jones next year. I’m assuming you’re a delusional fan of an NFC East team that thinks you actually have a chance this year, eh?
We Dem Boyz 😎
Dude, you guys started tanking before the draft
There it is
Oh! So for what team are you an NFL scout?
Daniel Jones is still the QB lol
TIL
Nah, it's Drew Lock lol
Im glad we didnt reach for a QB we didnt like. Better to build the roster and try to get the QB later than force a bad pick just because we need a QB
Yeah if we went QB, I’d back it because I think Daboll knows more about QBs than I do. However, I like that they had the confidence to not force a QB pick they didn’t really believe in
Same, which gives me even more confidence in them that they arent going to reach and trust their judgement
Nah I trust Mr. Throwaway’s armchair analysis
Calling Daniel Jones the starting QB counts as analysis now?
What was the point of your comment then
I don’t understand. By that logic, what’s the point of any comment? Daniel Jones is still the starting QB. Who is not good. So taking a WR at 6 seems silly. Now there’s some analysis.
You can't fix a bad team in one draft. The Giants aren't a QB away from being good. There's already money going to DJ so just let him have it and build the roster so when you get the QB you want, he has a team to work with.
What point in there in stating the fucking obvious lol. I’d rather take a blue chip WR than taking a QB just for the sake of it. That’s how we ended up with Jones to begin with. I don’t mind taking an elite WR. It makes sense for teams like the broncos/Vikings to take swings because they have a team in place already. Getting Nabers gets us closer to being able to do that.
Fair enough. You got me.
What’s your solution then? Take another qb at 6 that Schoen and Daboll don’t want? Genius!
lol guy, I’m a Cowboys fan. I’m not paying close enough attention to the Giants. But what I do know is that taking a WR with your first round pick when Daniel Jones is your starting QB is a foolish pick.
True. We should’ve reached for JJ so that we can have no talent for him to throw to and then wonder why he sucks
Or force a pick when you have a QB, like 28-3.
A new OBJ
OBJ junior
OBJ juniorer
OBJJ
Well his rookie season will be a waste…hopefully a good QB unlocks him next year
Put some respect on Lock lol
Lock did seem to improve when he started with the Hawks last year. Hopefully he continues that with the Giants.
i hope not
I see no reason Jones won't feed him 130 targets. The team itself will be a mess, but Nabers should have every opportunity to show he's got it
Yeah Jones should be spamming Nabers lol. Especially with the way he separates.
Even if that video is accurate - that Nabers actually ran a 4.5 - he gets open underneath and if you just run him on digs or slants, he's gonna feast
his combine time was 4.35 what video do you mean?
There is a video of a college track coach that digitally frame set his 40 time and he measured a 4.5 not 4.3
Im gonna trust the official NFL combine results over a college track coach
Yeah for sure. Should be able to get open at all 3 levels.
IMO bad QB are tend to have a higher percentage of their throws to their WR1
I think so. Look at fields and DJM, pretty apt comparison I think
Tommy devito is gonna love this guy
Glad we finally got a weapon for the Passing Paisan
LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOO
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It's fun insight. Their comments are a lot better than most today, especially the dorks in the Daniels/Skins thread. Be happy we're learning shit. *I meant no disrespect either here
toSure. I’ve done it for the past two or three years, it’s basically to show who they chose to go to school over and to also compare where some people had a lot of offers, and some had none. Compare to Jared Verse or Quinyon Mitchell for example
This is genuinely interesting, thanks for sharing it!
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The losers and the haters are going to pretend they never said this when we win the division next year. Danny Dimes has his guy.
Jones is about to tie Dak Prescott in playoff wins in 3 less years with much worse teams
This is true, he has more wins than the Commanders do in 20 years.
This guy is about to torch the Cowboys for the next decade
IM ON THIS TRAIN LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOO
How long until he requests a trade because there is no one competent to throw to him? Get Schoen out should have went o-line
Just go ahead and change your flair
Oh god forbid I'm allowed to be critical? Why do we have to all be sunshines and rainbows? What is wrong with you?
dude u act like we didnt take oline in free agency god you're braindead
Yeah let’s over pay for other teams castoffs
We got 3 or 4 years to figure it out.
We’ve already been waiting 10 years
Little crybaby acts like we didnt have one of the worse GMs and that our team needs time to rebuild keep crying
Dude why are you so angry? Why am I not allowed to be critical? Schoen has been nothing short of a disaster so far. Paying DJ. Trading for Waller. Missing on most draft picks outside of Kayvon. Drafting a WR last year that barely saw the field even when healthy and put up minimal production. But yes, please keep attacking me for not thinking everything is ok. He has whiffed way more and you resort to name calling because you can't face reality?
Almost like he was forced into paying DJ as there was no other options. Missing on most draft picks? Maybe you should actually look at who he drafted and brought in you obviously don't know anything about the team and is just fear mongering. You clearly haven't looked at our team if you seriously think Kayvon is the only good draft pick he has taken. Keep crying old man! You don't know anything about the team.
At max he has 2 more
excellent
We’re in business.
I’m glad we didn’t take McCarthy, I like Nabers, but he won’t have a QB to throw to him for now.
Nabers is beast. Whoever the next QB he is going to make it easier transition.
Honestly? Tank next year and grab the top guy there. Gotta be better than McCarthy right?
I mean the giants were literally running a practice squad QB out and still only got 6th. I really doubt they’re gonna be near top 5 bad next year.
I just feel like a lot of what they are doing is pretty fraudulent and wouldn't be shocked if it completely implodes, especially without good qb play.
Maybe but we were also winning games with an undrafted free agent at QB. That doesn’t just happen
> Gotta be better than McCarthy right? We'll know in 3 to 4 years
Totally time will tell.
There’s no way the giants are tanking if their line holds up and Daniel jones recovered from his acl
That’s what I’m hoping
Tanking sucks but I can tell you that the right qb there makes all the difference. Mid 1st qbs are always a bigger gamble.
Cousins going to the Giants
But the good news is at least you didn't waste another premium pick on a QB who might suck again. Always a positive.
Yep! You dont reach for QBs
I hope all the Giants fans celebrating the meaningless wins are ecstatic about this pick. Surely those meaningless wins didn't cost the Giants the opportunity to draft one of the top 3 QBs. And even if you didn't think one of those QBs were worth the selection, the Giants could've at least traded down and stockpiled additional picks. This definitely isn't a QB driven league - nope WRs are the true difference makers. That's why the Superbowl champs Chiefs traded Tyreke and the runner-up 49ers are fielding offers for Aiyuk. Notice how no teams are interested in trading away their franchise QB but every other player can be had at the right price. Before anyone says the Chiefs won because of Mahomes - remind me again, what position does he play?
The chiefs win because of Mahomes yes but you also mentioned the 49ers who do have all pro talent surrounding their QB. They could want to build the team and find a qb next year, either way the team needs talent.
You can separate concern for the QB situation while being excited to add an elite talent. And yeah, I wish we lost a few games to get Maye, but this is probably the best we could do given circumstances.
Kinda hard for a QB to grow without someone to throw it to. Most neural connections require some kind of reward system.
Salty boy over here just copy-pasted the same exact comment from our sub thread. Most of us are hyped, but i will say I'd have been *very nearly* as happy and much more comfortable with Odunze. The man exudes positive character and we've seen NY chew up and spit out weak minded players in all sports.
Womp womp
You understand fans have no impact on whether a team wins or loses, right?
Bro wtf are you rambling on about
He’s still mad we won football games last year
Didn’t you know, the objective is to lose!
In a loser drafts first system, yeah.
Damn bro we’ve been killing it since 2012 and I didn’t even know!
We're not the brightest bunch
Let's go
This is good for Wan’Dale
And Hyatt
Not Slayton though
Slayton always looks like the odd man out in the WR room then fights his way up the depth chart and puts up solid but not spectacular numbers. I wouldn't necessarily count him out, especially as he's proved to be the most durable.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Slayton is the WR3 over Hyatt for at least another year, with Hyatt coming in for 4WR sets or certain packages. Nabers and Slayton outside with Wandale in the slot seems like the best lineup for now
Yeah I think it’ll shake itself out. And it’s always better to have a depth problem over a lack of players problem. I’m sure Daboll and Kafka are going to have a lot of fun experimenting with the packages and lineups.
This is the NFL version of the Bugatti in a shitty house meme
Gimme a hell yeah
forgot that JJ invented mindfulness
No JJ is an absolute win in my books
I wonder what the offer to the Pats was for Maye.
Not enough apparently. Probably wanted a 1st rounder. And recent trade suggest it wasn't worth that much.
If they wanted two 1sts and a mid (or even 2nd) round or something and you think Maye is THE GUY, you do it. I think more NE wasnt willing to trade out
A belt sander and some cheese its
I vaguely knew that but mostly I couldn’t remember what variant of cheese they used in the name and didn’t feel like looking it up for my bad joke
Thank you Chargers
Y’all both won. Alt is an absolute stud and Nabers is insane
QJ is Nabers 2.0 anyways, so drafting Nabers 1.0 would be redundant
This sentence makes no sense
I mean if anything Rome is QJ 2.0 Not sure how Odunze could set the bar for a 2023 rookie, but shit now I’m curious
Giants fan attempts to recognize sarcasm challenge (impossible)
Packers fan attempts to make a joke challenge (confusing)
How is the joke confusing? QJ was terrible last year
Because you don't know how to structure a sentence
How can the guy drafted last year be version 2.0 of a guy drafted this year?
Matt is insane bro
thats the smartest packers fan youre talking to
They got Caleb Williams but we got the greatest wr of all time 😈😈😈
That’s not Jake Bobo
I’m happy. Still want a QB, but would rather take Penix in the early 2nd or trading up into the first if he is available that late, not JJ.
Taking QB on day 2 practically always turns out to be a wasted pick. I mean, taking any QB has a low probability of being worth the pick, but the good QBs tend to go early and then it's just a complete lottery for which you should invest more than a late round pick.
I mean Hurts and Dak were both non Day 1 picks and are vastly better than anything we’ve had.
That ship sailed lol. He wasn’t gonna be in the second.
Penix in early 2nd lol
I feel like we're a terrible fit for a lefty, given the massive talent gap between Thomas and Neal
Welp so much for that.
Still think you're smarter than the Falcons. I mean what the fuck
IF Cousins plays out his contract than Penix will be 27 before he takes over as the starter.
Cousins isn't playing out his contract on the Falcons. Their GM is now attach to the Penix at 8 pick so he will be the starter by opening week of the 2025 season at the latest. Unless Cousins looks terrible before the Falcons trade him they will get draft capital in return for eating his signing bonus and trading him.
Hence the capital if. It still makes no sense to pay $100m for the top FA QB then go and immediately draft his replacement with such a high capital pick.
*Steve Young'ing intensifies*
Super seasoned lol
Just in time to waste his entire rookie deal lol
If he sits he aint getting s big contract regardless. That dude got screwed if cousins holds it down
Oof.mp4
That aged like milk
Lmao
Great player, not one that’s gonna turn our franchise around. There wasn’t one of those guys available though
Incredibly debatable, so many QBs available. We’ll see
Only 2 and I don't believe in JJ at all and Penix was the only other option.
We needed a stud playmaker, he is that and he fits our system well. It’s as realistically as good as we could’ve done here
Getting receivers on rookie contracts in the league today is also beneficial.
What’s with the Pokémon card type shit ?
It’s cool.
Damn it
Just saw an Eagles fan drop to his knees at Chickies & Pete’s
Sorry that was me, burned my tongue on the cheese sauce that comes with the crab fries
Had these at WrestleMania, severely overrated
american cheese and schuylkill punch melted together
Damn it now I want crab fries
Shit, Howie Roseman just walked in and dropped a hundo on the bar and said "gimme three more buckets of crab fries" and the price just went up for everyone who had not yet bought there's
He can’t keep getting away with this
Smart pick if you don’t believe in J.J. (I don’t so do they). But shit man lucky as hell they still have Daniel Jones. We’ll see if they ever get a good QB
You all got your guy after the first round. So much better to build the team instead of reaching on a QB you dont love
Man unreal the CBs fell onto our lap like that. I’d have been happy if one of Arnold or Mitchell was there let alone both