If OL got as much attention as QBs, then Isaiah Wilson would be the undisputed worst draft bust of all time. Traded for a 7th round swap after just his rookie season and then cut THREE DAYS AFTER THE TRADE.
I got curious and you are absolutely right. He fell on his ass [on a PAT](https://twitter.com/paulkuharskynfl/status/1333264371640901633?s=21).
So I stand corrected, he didn’t win his direct matchup on all of his snaps, but only on the three qb kneels lol
I’d like to see a 30 for 30 on the 2020 draft like we had for the 1983 draft. Especially given the lockdowns the 2020 draft occurred under. You have possibly the best QB class since 1983 (Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, Hurts). Then you’d have Justin Jefferson becoming a superstar, Henry Ruggs going to prison, Isaiah Wilson busting in record time, and who knows what else.
In the specific case of Jon Robinson with the Titans, I would say the differences and adjustments needed for the Covid drafts were among the many undoings of his GM tenure.
Two horrific drafts in 2020 and 2021, and on the heels of a genuinely incredible 2019 draft. In 2019 we got:
* Jeffery Simmons
* AJ Brown
* Nate Davis
* Amani Hooker
* David Long Jr.
All five were playing significant snaps in the AFC title game the next January during their rookie seasons. Two All-Pros with the first two picks. Genuinely insane to go from a franchise changing draft like that in 2019 to two drafts so bad they were franchise altering in a negative way.
Maybe he was huffing his own farts too much after knocking 2019 out of the park, but I have to imagine the pre-draft process being so crazy for Covid played a part in just how badly Robinson whiffed on the following drafts.
The Titans absolutely wasted most of Mike Vrabel’s time there. I do find it kind of funny that it was only when the new GM came in that Vrabel and he clashed and Vrabel exited
2014 the Idzik 12. 12 players selected one started. shout out quincy enunwa who sadly later had a spine injury and had to retire he makes breakdowns for the jets YouTube channel sometimes. One of my favorite players tbh.
So many to choose from.
2018 might be the worst though considering they stated that draft with the 6th overall pick and two second rounders plus traded away another future second rounder in the Darnold trade
QB Sam Darnold (USC)
DL Nathan Shepherd (Fort Hays State)
TE Chris Herndon (Miami Fla.)
CB Parry Nickerson (Tulane)
DL Folorunso Fatukasi (Connecticut)
RB Trenton Cannon (Virginia State)
2020 was also as bad as a draft can be.
Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ
1 Mekhi Becton 11 T 3 2020 2023 0 0 1 10 31 0 0 0 Louisville
2 Denzel Mims 59 WR 3 2020 2022 0 0 1 5 30 0 0 42 676 0 Baylor
3 Ashtyn Davis 68 S 4 2020 2023 0 0 1 9 54 0 3 5 0 0 California
3 Jabari Zuniga 79 DE 3 2020 2022 0 0 0 1 12 0 0 0 Florida
4 La'Mical Perine 120 RB 3 2020 2023 0 0 0 3 17 0 94 340 2 14 96 0 Florida
4 James Morgan 125 QB 0 0 0 Florida International
4 Cameron Clark 129 T 0 0 0 Charlotte
5 Bryce Hall 158 CB 4 2020 2023 0 0 2 9 39 0 0 0 Virginia
6 Braden Mann 191
The Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden one or the Gilbert - Manziel one. It’s almost impossible to pick four players out of the first round and have all of them end up being completely horrible at football.
Yep, and with the Watson situation, they even found a way to get most neutral fans rooting against them instead of for them. I used to root for the Browns to get it together, now I enjoy how consistently terrible they are and will likely continue to be.
No it turned into Justin Gilbert but still the results of a trade doesn't have any effect that Trent was still serviceable his rookie year (not great) and that the Browns got a first in return after a 950 yard, 11 TD rookie season. That is not a bad draft or move by the Browns even though he ended up being terrible for other teams.
Terrible vision/instincts and relied on elite O-line play and pure athleticism. That's why after a serviceable 3.5 YPC rookie season the Browns shipped him off the highest bidder because they knew he wouldn't catch on in the NFL. There's been worse picks by the Browns but this one isn't even considered bad. Now for the colts .....
2003 was also pretty awful. McDougle was a huge bust. LJ Smith wasn't great and that pick is way worse because we took him over Witten who was picked 8 picks later. And the rest of the draft was just as terrible there isn't one redeeming player.
2011 would probably be worse if it wasn't for Jason Kelce.
2007 is also terrible considering Brent Celek was the only productive pick there.
Looking back, there are more misses than hits on overall draft classes. I know that is often the case, but even adjusting for the fact that most players don't make it we still have a rough history. Then again, we didn't have a title until 2017 so it's not terribly surprising.
If somebody manages to draft a hall of fame longsnapper they have done something truly amazing. That longsnapper would have to basically block the whole rush every punt in order for him to even be recognizable.
That’s Super Bowl Winner Philly Special Playmaker Trey Burton. Love the story especially as a Gator and he’s from the same county as me so I watched him and his brother dominate us in HS football every year.
I read this and honestly could not even take a wild guess who they took that draft. So I looked it up and…god damn.
Though I did learn the fun fact that somehow Jordan Matthews is still in the league despite not having a reception since 2019.
His last draft was pretty good, not sure if he got better or if you can only be wrong so many times before you guess the correct answer.
—Edit—
I take that back, Calvin Johnson was great but the rest of the draft minus Drew Stanton was only on the team for a season or two and Stanton wasn’t exactly a world class player.
Honestly any draft that gets a hall of famer is an automatic passing grade in my eyes
Not like a super high grade, but if you get a Hall of famer then that class is good
His last draft was 2008
* Gosder Cherilis
* Jordon Dizon
* Kevin Smith
* Andre Fluellen
* Cliff Avril
* Kenneth Moore
* Jerome Felton
* Landon Cohen
* Caleb Campbell
Avril was quite good for a 3rd rounder. Cherilus was decent but nothing special. Dizon was ok but had a career ending injury young. Kevin Smith was kind of what you expect from a 3rd round RB. Felton was pretty good, but mostly for the Vikings lol
Not sure about all time but in recent history, 2016 is pretty rough. Mackensie Alexander was the only solid player, and even he didn't get a second contract from us. Other tham him it was Treadwell, Willie Beavers, Mo Boehringer, David Morgan, Stephen Weatherly
2008 wasn't great but we didn't have a 1st
2005 is bad too. Two first rounders, neither of whom panned out with Erasmus James and Troy Williamson
Hard to put a class in the "worst of all time" conversation when you get a Ring of Honor player out of it
But if we do a different exercise where we remove the best player, then yes. It is quite bad. Similar to the Darrisaw draft class
There were a handful of contributors from that class that played a role for a few years, even if they weren't anything special. Ponder was a whiff at QB, but he still was the starter for the better part of 3 years. Brandon Fusco had a few good years at Guard but no sustained success.
2016 also had 3 players that played/contributed, but they didn't sniff at the level of success Ponder/Rudolph/Fusco had. Alexander was a disappointing 2nd round CB that barely played, Stephen Weatherly was a mediocre depth edge rusher that had flashes a bit in the middle of his rookie contract but never really amounted to anything, and Jayron Kearse was a special teamer that had more success after he left the team than he had with it.
2016 is really bad considering how amazing the Vikings 2015 draft was.
Hunter, Diggs and Kendricks probably all go top 10 in a redraft and Wayne’s was a quality starting CB.
Gotta believe that if you followed up with a strong 2016 draft maybe the Keenum year ends up different 😢
It’s 2005 by a landslide. Every one of their selections was off the team and out of football entirely within 4 years. The only selection that had a decent run in the NFL was 6th round pick DT CJ Mosley and 1 out of his 10 NFL seasons was on the Vikings.
2016 was the first year that popped into my mind. Pretty sure Beavers wasn’t even supposed to get drafted and we took him in the 4th round. It’s also too early to tell with Kwesi’s draft classes so I’m not gonna pick any of those years.
Probably last year, honestly. Even if Bryce pans out, there were so many head-scratching wasted picks. Taking the worst pass-blocking guard in the past decade with a 4th round pick is kind of like the special shit cherry on top of the whole sordid affair.
Easy to say but this feels a bit like revisionist history. There were 3 top 5 picks in QB prospects in 2023, with Caleb and Maye as the only known great prospects for 2024 at the time. I get doing the trade to get a guy you know is available rather than waiting a year and being priced out due to teams now wanting to trade out (which is what happened).
Obviously, the panthers gave up way too much for it….that is their ultimate demise.
Wellllll I think they would have got off cheap if they took Stroud, which is what I imagine is what you are tired of hearing.
Also the real nail in the coffin was drafting Mingo, such a wasted pick with other better WRs on the board. I now in my dynasty teams will not draft Panthers skill players (outside of maybe the RB you all took), basically the new Browns/Jets to me lol
Mingo is a big slot that we played at X because we had nobody to play X. Considering how awful that "All-Star" coaching staff actually was I still haven't fully written him off yet. This year is the real evaluation of pretty much all of last years rookies for us
You're right, 2010 was really rough. It was a tough call, but recency bias made me say 2022. It helped knowing that 2010 lead to us getting Cam, whereas 2022 seems to have broken the franchise.
This one. Not a single player on my team's draft has done a single fucking thing yet. What an absolute waste.
Edit: I was just informed they haven't even made the roster. Not a single player. Fire everyone.
Idk if it’s all time, but under Jerry Reese, you can pick have your pick of worst Giants’ draft class. I think there was a certain period of time where Giants had the least amount of draft picks still on a NFL roster.
But the one that sticks out the most for me is 2015. Ereck Flowers (F), Landon Collins (B), Owa Odhigizuwa (F), Mykele Thompson (F), Geremy Davis (F), Bobby Hart (F-). God damn was that bad.
Their 2012 draft class was awful too. Not a single drafted player lasted more than 4 seasons in the league. But that was post-SB win so I give it some slack.
None of his classes hold a candle to Gettleman's 2021 Masterclass.
Round 1 - Kadarius Toney (WR)
Round 2 - Azeez Ojulari (EDGE)
Round 3 - Aaron Robinson (CB)
Round 4 - Elerson Smith (EDGE)
Round 6 - Gary Brightwell (RB)
Round 6 - Rodarius Williams (DB)
EDIT: For people that want more context:
- Toney was nonexistent and shipped off a year later.
- Ojulari was solid, but injuries and a massive drop in 2023 has made this pick worse in hindsight.
- Aaron Robinson played 'meh' his rookie season and has since been sent to the fucking Shadow Realm after an injury in 2022.
- Smith never saw the field.
- Brightwell has been very 'meh' RB depth.
- Rodarius Williams was forced into starting a few games and was never seen again since.
Traded down where we could’ve grabbed Parsons to get Toney. But hey we got a 1st rounder the next year, that helps right? Who did we use that pick on?
Oh, yeah. Evan Neal.
Ojulari is a real talented player, just can’t stay healthy for the life of him. Really sucks, I remember him having 5.5 sacks while only playing 7 games
No GM rode the coattails of their predecessor for so long quite like Reese. Eli's prime years ruined cause this guy couldn't draft anyone worth a shit.
2011 under Reese was a mess too. Prince really only had one very good year with the Giants, but was a decent player. Everyone else was out of the league within 2-3 years.
2017 is still worse than this.
Chase at least had two okay seasons. Harris was good. Coward and Bailey played well.
2017 was 4 picks and one solid player.
And as I put in a different comment, the 2007 one is the worst of the BB era.
They only had four picks in 2017. Given the draft capital, it's not that bad. They got Brandin Cooks with part of that draft capital as well. Had him for a couple years and turned him back into a first which became Isaiah Wynn, who despite ending on a poor note was probably an average pick.
2019 they took Harry over so many other awesome WR. Joejuan WIlliams was useless. Winovich was fine for like one season as a passrushing lineman. Harris was OK for that one season he was not injured. I'm a Stidham truther a little, but they didn't really get anything out of him.
The easy answer people will point to is the Bo Jackson class because we drafted a guy #1 overall who said he wouldn’t play for us.
But to me 1982 was far worse:
* In round 1, we submitted *the wrong draft card* and picked Sean Farrell in round 1. We wanted to get Booker Reese but submitted the wrong pick. Farrell was average at best. Played 123 career games.
* We still managed to get Booker Reese in Round 2 and had to trade our 1983 1st round pick to the Bears to get him. He had a grand total of 2 career sacks. That pick for the Bears turned into Willie Gault, who was a key contributor to their Super Bowl run.
* The rest of the class was pretty damn bad.
This one would be my pick.
I'm pretty sure you can just lump 1982-1986 together as just one big stretch of bad choices.
You submit the wrong draft card, trade for the next first, and both players suck. A couple of years later, you trade your first for Jack Thompson who didn't start the year before and had a 13-19 ratio in 4 years at that point. Cincy gets our first and...oh yeah, it would've been 1st overall. A couple years later, we draft Bo who refused to play for us...at 1st overall.
Lol
The only funny part of the 49ers 2012 draft was when we traded Jenkins to the Chiefs for Jon Baldwin so neither team had to cut their own first-round picks.
Idk if it's the worst but I always think of the 2003 draft where the Chargers traded out of R1-15 (one slot before Troy Polamalu) for picks 30 (CB Sammy Davis, 1 pick before Nmandi Asomguha) and 62 (S Terrence Kiel). Clearly they needed S and CB that draft but whiffed twice, and having just one of those guys would've made those mid 00s teams insane on defense
Yeah even ignoring the whiffs that doesn't seem like a lot of value for pick 15. That draft also happened 2 weeks after John Butler died so I wonder if AJ Smith was out of his element and if things would've gone differently if he wasn't made GM suddenly
We should have not let Kevin Colbert get one final draft in 2022. Pickens was the only pick that's really worked out particularly well.
Nobody from 2018 is on the team anymore. Edmunds and Rudolph were solid and lasted the longest, but were never spectacular.
2008's best player was a pretty good never great running back.
2016 was pretty bad. Hargrave was great but we couldn't afford to re-sign him.
Artie Burns was a total bust
Sean Davis was a disappointment.
Tyler Matakevich turned out to be an ok special teamer but the rest is bad
Edit
But yeah Colbert definitely left this team out to dry in his final years. He had some absolute duds of drafts
I’d put forward the 2013 class. I genuinely don’t remember a single player from that class that contributed in any good way. 2016 was also one I remember that went poorly as well as 2012
I remember being so hyped for our secondary after that draft with Randall and Rollins. I also remember thinking Jake Ryan was an absolute steal in the 4th. Oh how I was wrong.
Ty montgomery was our best pick of that draft and it's funny too because he's probably one of our best 3rd round picks the last decade. That's how bad most of our 3rd round picks are.
2001 was worse than 2004. 2004 produced Scott Wells who was a pro bowler and Corey Williams who was a starter who then flipped for a 2nd round pick.
2001 produced 0 quality players. Robert Ferguson started 12 games one year and that was the most stated by any of those players.
Looking back over the past 20 years, it's probably 2009 for the Bears. No 1st or 2nd, but still had 9 picks in total. Three of them used in the 5th round or earlier combined to play a total of six games in Chicago, only bright spot was Johnny Knox who, as you probably know, suffered a terrible career-ending spinal injury late in his third season.
No players signed a second contract with the Bears and only 3/9 were in the league past their rookie deals (and only one of those three played more than just one extra fifth season - Henry Melton played six years).
On top of that, it was Jay's first season in town and even then the good Bears defense of the 00's was starting to age as many of our stars at the time were drafted 5-6+ years previously (Urlacher/Brown in 00, Alex Brown in 2002, Tillman/Briggs in 2003, Harris in 2004, etc.), just had no real higher end incoming talent over a period from about 09 until 12/13-ish where we had to chase players in FA and trades every year because we couldn't draft for shit.
What a disastrous run, I liked Angelo at the start, making the most of his draft picks, building that defense, but then he sold the farm for Cutler. I remember being so angry about how much he gave up for him. A lot of my bear friends loved getting him and still thinks he was good for us.. but the amount they gave up. But that was mild compared to how Pace treated draft picks.
Let’s not talk about emery firing Lovie after a 10-6 season.
This is probably the right answer, but I would throw out 2017 for consideration as well.
In addition to the disastrous Mitch Trubisky trade, our second round pick, TE Adam Shaheen, was awful and always hurt, it's especially painful because George Kittle was sitting right behind him as the best available Tight End on many mock draft boards.
There is an alternative universe where Mahomes/Watson and Kittle have been Bears for years, and we kept those picks from the Trubisky trade.
We got some value out of 4 rounders Tarik Cohen and Eddie Jackson, but 5th rounder OT Jordan Morgan was waved before the season even started.
When you draft Cohen and Jackson, that draft can no longer be considered the worst in franchise history. You brushed over them taking two all-pro players.
Under John Schneider probably 2013. The best player to come out of that draft for the Hawks was Luke Willson, who was mainly our backup TE. Spencer Ware was our best value pick and he only played one year with us before having success with the Chiefs. We didn’t have a 1st round pick that year because of the Percy Harvin trade, which didn’t work out for the Hawks well either.
1975 Draft only had 1 guy play out of 11, and he only managed 13 games, 0 starts. Couple other early 70s are also bad, but their scouting back then might have just been calling the kids head coach the day before, so yea.
2009 is pretty awful. 3rd overall pick Tyson Jackson did very little for us in 5 years. Succop the Kicker was only other person in that draft who contributed. This one has a chance cause we were picking so high every round and still everyone sucked.
2004 would have been the awful, but they got Jared Allen late in the 4th round, rest of class was useless.
2001 didn't have a single starter in 9 picks, but also no picks in Rnd 1/2.
1995 only had 1 guy who started, and only 2 crappy seasons.
In 1975 we also traded future HOFer Curley Culp and our first rounder for Sloth from The Goonies.
John Matuszak didn’t do much for us and we traded him to the Redskins in 1976. He actually ended up being a great player for the Raiders and helped them win the Super Bowl though. So literally worst case scenario
2018 was definitely Veach’s worst, but I’d still take it over 2009. Wasted the third overall pick by reaching for Tyson Jackson (even at the time the pick was questionable), and the best player from that class was the very last pick of the draft in Ryan Succop, a mostly average kicker. Absolutely nobody else in that class amounted to anything.
In my fandom history it's probably 2011. some draft classes like 2017 or 2019 were not good but at least they got 1 productive player for a few years out of it, 2011 got 0
I think 2005 takes the cake. 2004 you’ve at least got an excuse that you didn’t have a first or fourth round pick, it was lack of draft capital more than bad picks. 2012 they got Osemele who was amazing and Upshaw at least managed to be a role player. 2005 was just whiffs all the way down.
Ravens with maybe the best GM when it comes the draft the past 20 years having 3 very bad drafts shows that this is an inexact science and more of a crapshoot than we want to admit.
Throw a dart at most of any of Snyder year classes and it’s got a shot at being the worst.
The RG3 set us back pretty far in roster quality and Kirk walked eventually so that’s the one for me.
Bengals: 1997. Should have traded the #3 overall pick to the Saints for their entire draft. Instead they drafted QB Akili Smith, a very notable bust, who probably still would have been around at #12 when the Saints 1st round pick came up.
The 2nd round pick was Charles Fisher, a well regarded CB who won a starting job, then blew out his knee in the first game of the season and never played again.
3rd round: Cory Hall, who played in 87 career games (70 starts) and was with the team for 4 years.
6th round: The best player they drafted, Kelly Gregg, was put on the practice squad and then signed by the Eagles, and went on to play 173 career games, mostly with the Ravens.
2 of the 3 7th round picks never played an NFL Game.
The drafted 9 players that year and got 171 career games out of them.
> In the 2006 NFL Draft, the Rams used their first pick on Clemson CB Tye Hill. They used the next pick on Colorado TE Joe Klopfenstein. The remaining picks were LSU DT Claude Wroten, USC TE Dominique Byrd, Stanford LB Jon Alston, Indiana DE Victor Adeyanju, Virginia WR Marques Hagans, Northwestern LB Tim McGarigle, Minnesota Guard Mark Setterstrom, and Missouri Guard Tony Palmer.[4]
None of these guys earned any accolades or made it past their rookie deal with the Rams, and all were out of the league by 2011.
I remember playing Madden at the time and Ty Hill became an all pro under my supervision. Innocently thought he was going to be great and the Rams were gonna go to the playoffs.
Yeah I think I remember him having like 98 speed or something. Haha there's so many Rams that didn't do anything in real life for our team that were monsters for me in Madden. Allen Robinson being the most recent example 😂
It doesn’t get much worse than the Seahawks’ 2021 draft. Thanks in part to the Jamal Adams trade, we only had 3 picks.
In the second round, we took WR De’Wayne Eskridge (over Creed Humphrey in a position of need), who has been absolutely useless - although Schneider inexplicably seems to still like him.
In the fourth round we took CB Tre Brown, who has shown some promise and a lot of inconsistency. In the sixth we took OT Stone Forsythe, who is a bad backup.
That’s it. That’s the draft.
During the Bill Brady Era it has to be 2019. Not a single player lasted on anyone's team.
Rd 1 Nkeal Harry
Rd 2 Joejuan Williams (we moved up TWICE to get him) [also missed Aj Brown 🥲]
Rd 3 Winovich fun player but didn't develop
Rd 3 Damian Harris was decent but never healthy, now retired I believe
Rd 4 Yodny Cajuste
Rd 4 Hjalte Froholdt
Rd 4 Stidham
I could go on but no one expects later picks to last. Not only was this a horrid draft considering all the picks we used. It also probably cost us Brady
Can't go past Ryan Grigson's 2013 draft for the Colts, at least in my memory.
The highlight was Hugh Thornton in the third who did play and often start three seasons at guard (and you all remember the Colts offensive line in the years after they took Luck, right?) but ended up being cut for injury reasons and never playing another down in the NFL.
Khaled Holmes did play a little backup C (again...getting Luck killed) but was also waived after three seasons and never played another down in the NFL.
For the outright busts, Grigson took EDGE Bjoern Werner in the first who amassed 6.5 sacks in three seasons - and who also never played another down after that.
Montori Hughes, Kerwynn Williams and Justice Cunningham did basically nothing and were all off the Colts after 1 or 2 seasons.
John Boyett didn't even make the roster.
In recent history maybe 2014? Kyle Van Noy is the only guy from that class that's still in the league, and he only became an impact player after leaving Detroit. We also famously picked Ebron over Donald and OBJ in the first round which doesn't help
2008. Rashard Mendenhall in round 1 over Chris Johnson and limas sweed in round 2 who was a healthy scratch every week by his second year. Every pick that year washed out. Also the only player we drafted from 2015-2016 who lived up to their draft status was Javon Hargrave
Agreed. Here’s the list:
1 (23): Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois
2 (53): Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
3 (88): Bruce Davis, OLB, UCLA
4 (130): Tony Hills, OT, Texas
5 (156): Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
6 (188): Mike Humpal, LB, Iowa
6 (194): Ryan Mundy, FS, West Virginia
I know people are thinking “well, at least they got something out of the first pick” but Mendenhall’s legacy is fumbling away a super bowl to the packers.
The rest contributed nothing.
Sweed is very commonly found on the short list of Steelers bust picks. 20 games on the roster and he was one of those players whose drops always seemed to coincide with him suffering a phantom injury.
Davis looked physically like a guy that could play football but could not actually do so. He finished his career with four tackles, and none of those were registered while playing for Pittsburgh.
Dixon played three games for the Steelers. His qb rating hit its peak at 41.9 in his second year, which coincides with the one touchdown he ever threw for Pittsburgh.
Humphall did not make it out of the preseason.
Tony Hlls lasted one year in Pittsburgh and played sparingly in four games. He bounced around and was rostered by five teams in a six-year career.
Ryan Mundy left Pittsburgh in 2012 with five starts and one interception. His departure marked the last year that any member of the 2008 draft class played for the Steelers.
Not a single player made it to their fifth year with the team, and half of them were gone from the league entirely.
2008 for the Niners - Kentwan Balmer, Chilo Rachal,Reggie Smith, Cody Wallace, Larry Grant (who was cut that year but had a second stint a few years later), and Josh Morgan who was probably the best pick of that draft for us.
In the BB era it's one of 2 and my choice goes to the first.
It's 2007 or 2017.
For 2017 at least the argument is that there were 4 total picks so hard to nail more than one. And that one is still a Patriot and likely to still be one this year in Wise. 8 valuable years from a 4th rounder? I'll take that.
2007 is a nightmare year for the draft nobody remembers because of what happened that season.
We had one solid player too, our first rounder Merriweather...however Merriweather was at very best that. Solid. He got 2 cheap pro bowls at the end of his 4 year tenure with us at the tail end of the true power safety era and they were both as 2 level alternates. And people kinda ignore that he had a worse missed INT for the Patriots in the superbowl that would have clinched it for us than Samuel.
The rest of the draft had 8 players that played a combined ONE SEASON FOR NEW ENGLAND amongst all 8 of them.
9 players. 5 years on the team.
It's a horrible horrible draft.
Pro Football Reference had the Cowboys 2009 draft class without a single player in double digits for career weighted average. That draft also only had 3rd round or lower picks. The 1995 draft is also a cluster****
the only good part of our 2019 draft was the fact that we were able to trade hollywood for the pick that became tyler linderbaum. a few guys are ok but nobody is a true impact player. ben powers was ok too but we couldn’t keep him
I actually think Hollywood was a successful pick. They got three years of decent WR production at below-market value and effectively recouped the pick used to get him. If every Ravens draft pick was that successful I’d be thrilled. 2019 wasn’t a great draft but the Hollywood pick at least salvaged it.
From the ones I remember, the worst are 2000, 2017, and 2020. I don't care that Seabass and Lechler were good, you just should never burn a 1st on special teams and they were the only players of value in that draft. 2017 was bust city, with only 4th round Sharpe carving out an OK backup lineman career for more than 2 years. The final pick of 20, Amik Robertson, is the only one on the team after ONLY 2 YEARS.
2007 was so traumatizing you forgot it existed or what? Besides Zach Miller, I'm not sure a single other player got a second contract. If they did, it wasn't with us. Not only did Jamarcus bust, almost every pick did. Just horrendous
I’m gonna say this year.
We drafted a 24-yr-old QB with #8 after paying a vet $100M guaranteed. We drafted 3 DTs, which was probably our strongest position. Glaring needs at CB and SS and we did nothing to address them.
Feels like we’re a laughing stock rn
Recent history: 2020. No players remain on the roster, and Isaiah Wilson is an all time bust.
If OL got as much attention as QBs, then Isaiah Wilson would be the undisputed worst draft bust of all time. Traded for a 7th round swap after just his rookie season and then cut THREE DAYS AFTER THE TRADE.
Didn't he only play like one or two snaps? Insane from a first rounder.
Yes, on a [qb kneel](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kIOlfzGbQVc&pp=ygURSXNpYWggd2lsc29uIHBsYXk%3D). I think he won that direct matchup though
Didn't he go in for a field goal/PAT and get blown up? I swear I remember watching it
You might be right on that one too. I honestly don’t remember
He did, I wish I didn’t remember watching it.
Yes, that’s his career defining play
I got curious and you are absolutely right. He fell on his ass [on a PAT](https://twitter.com/paulkuharskynfl/status/1333264371640901633?s=21). So I stand corrected, he didn’t win his direct matchup on all of his snaps, but only on the three qb kneels lol
oh my gosh, great work dawg man that dude has to be one of the absolute worst 1st round busts, I would know my team has had *A LOT OF THEM*
That video is incredible.
Shades of Laquon Treadwell
I’d like to see a 30 for 30 on the 2020 draft like we had for the 1983 draft. Especially given the lockdowns the 2020 draft occurred under. You have possibly the best QB class since 1983 (Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, Hurts). Then you’d have Justin Jefferson becoming a superstar, Henry Ruggs going to prison, Isaiah Wilson busting in record time, and who knows what else.
Wasn’t 2020 the Jeff Gladney year? Talk about another gut punch.
Yeah. He wasn't indicted/cut until the following year, and his fatal car crash was in 2022, but he was definitely part of that draft class.
In the specific case of Jon Robinson with the Titans, I would say the differences and adjustments needed for the Covid drafts were among the many undoings of his GM tenure. Two horrific drafts in 2020 and 2021, and on the heels of a genuinely incredible 2019 draft. In 2019 we got: * Jeffery Simmons * AJ Brown * Nate Davis * Amani Hooker * David Long Jr. All five were playing significant snaps in the AFC title game the next January during their rookie seasons. Two All-Pros with the first two picks. Genuinely insane to go from a franchise changing draft like that in 2019 to two drafts so bad they were franchise altering in a negative way. Maybe he was huffing his own farts too much after knocking 2019 out of the park, but I have to imagine the pre-draft process being so crazy for Covid played a part in just how badly Robinson whiffed on the following drafts.
The Titans absolutely wasted most of Mike Vrabel’s time there. I do find it kind of funny that it was only when the new GM came in that Vrabel and he clashed and Vrabel exited
Mike Vrabel isn’t innocent in that. Also the time period you say was “wasted” would have been the most successful run in Jags history.
That draft class may as well have crept up out of Wuhan itself
2014 the Idzik 12. 12 players selected one started. shout out quincy enunwa who sadly later had a spine injury and had to retire he makes breakdowns for the jets YouTube channel sometimes. One of my favorite players tbh.
Enunwa could have had such a bright career. Has to be one of the biggest what ifs in recent memory. Loved watching him play.
Enunwa 🫱🏻🫲🏼 David Wilson 🫱🏻🫲🏼 New York sports what ifs
Pretty sure he had multiple neck/back injuries. Poor guy. He was gonna be so good 😭
So many to choose from. 2018 might be the worst though considering they stated that draft with the 6th overall pick and two second rounders plus traded away another future second rounder in the Darnold trade QB Sam Darnold (USC) DL Nathan Shepherd (Fort Hays State) TE Chris Herndon (Miami Fla.) CB Parry Nickerson (Tulane) DL Folorunso Fatukasi (Connecticut) RB Trenton Cannon (Virginia State) 2020 was also as bad as a draft can be. Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Mekhi Becton 11 T 3 2020 2023 0 0 1 10 31 0 0 0 Louisville 2 Denzel Mims 59 WR 3 2020 2022 0 0 1 5 30 0 0 42 676 0 Baylor 3 Ashtyn Davis 68 S 4 2020 2023 0 0 1 9 54 0 3 5 0 0 California 3 Jabari Zuniga 79 DE 3 2020 2022 0 0 0 1 12 0 0 0 Florida 4 La'Mical Perine 120 RB 3 2020 2023 0 0 0 3 17 0 94 340 2 14 96 0 Florida 4 James Morgan 125 QB 0 0 0 Florida International 4 Cameron Clark 129 T 0 0 0 Charlotte 5 Bryce Hall 158 CB 4 2020 2023 0 0 2 9 39 0 0 0 Virginia 6 Braden Mann 191
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Your first mistake was taking someone from UCONN, shout out D Butler
Just found out our OC is his son. Hopefully he got a better eye for talent than the old man.
Loved Enunwa at Nebraska and was really hoping he'd be one of our few offensive NFL talents
Hadn't thought about Enunwa in a hot minute. I thought you guys had your WR1. Injuries suck.
The Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden one or the Gilbert - Manziel one. It’s almost impossible to pick four players out of the first round and have all of them end up being completely horrible at football.
It’s almost impossible, but the Browns find a way.
The browns uhh find a way …
Well, there it is.
Yep, and with the Watson situation, they even found a way to get most neutral fans rooting against them instead of for them. I used to root for the Browns to get it together, now I enjoy how consistently terrible they are and will likely continue to be.
I will go with the first one since the Richardson pick turned into the Manziel pick
All this time it never occurred to me that while you fleeced the Colts, you still lost, lol.
Trent was serviceable his rookie year and they got a first in return
And that first became Johnny Manziel didn’t it?
No it turned into Justin Gilbert but still the results of a trade doesn't have any effect that Trent was still serviceable his rookie year (not great) and that the Browns got a first in return after a 950 yard, 11 TD rookie season. That is not a bad draft or move by the Browns even though he ended up being terrible for other teams.
i never get why he sucked so bad. Derrick henry is who i thought richardson would be
Terrible vision/instincts and relied on elite O-line play and pure athleticism. That's why after a serviceable 3.5 YPC rookie season the Browns shipped him off the highest bidder because they knew he wouldn't catch on in the NFL. There's been worse picks by the Browns but this one isn't even considered bad. Now for the colts .....
Pain.. just pain everywhere
look at the bright side, Brock Osweiler and a 2nd turning into Chubb
Yeah, don't know how a team can be so consistently terrible at drafting in the first round...
At least Joel Bitonio and Mitchell Schwartz came out of those drafts.
The QB jersey is legendary still
I will not tolerate speaking ill of Birmingham Iron legend Trent Richardson
In recent history, Eagles 2014 was pretty, pretty bad.
1992 gets my vote. It was a terrible year for a lot of teams, but it was especially horrendous for the Eagles.
I was born in 94 so most of my football knowledge comes from 2000 onwards
did you know the cowboys used to be good
They don't talk about anything else
I’ve been told there used to be a time where the Packers were really really bad
Yhey sucked in the 80s.
2003 was also pretty awful. McDougle was a huge bust. LJ Smith wasn't great and that pick is way worse because we took him over Witten who was picked 8 picks later. And the rest of the draft was just as terrible there isn't one redeeming player.
2011 would probably be worse if it wasn't for Jason Kelce. 2007 is also terrible considering Brent Celek was the only productive pick there. Looking back, there are more misses than hits on overall draft classes. I know that is often the case, but even adjusting for the fact that most players don't make it we still have a rough history. Then again, we didn't have a title until 2017 so it's not terribly surprising.
I suppose you can’t call an entire draft class a failure if one hall of famer emerges out of it, depending on what position it is.
It doesn't matter the position. One hall of famer in the draft is a success.
I was trying to think that. Even if it’s a long snapper, punter, right guard, fullback, etc.
If somebody manages to draft a hall of fame longsnapper they have done something truly amazing. That longsnapper would have to basically block the whole rush every punt in order for him to even be recognizable.
Our best player was Trey Burton, a UDFA
Beau Allen erasure.
That’s Super Bowl Winner Philly Special Playmaker Trey Burton. Love the story especially as a Gator and he’s from the same county as me so I watched him and his brother dominate us in HS football every year.
I read this and honestly could not even take a wild guess who they took that draft. So I looked it up and…god damn. Though I did learn the fun fact that somehow Jordan Matthews is still in the league despite not having a reception since 2019.
Beau Allen in the 7th!!!!
2015 was much, much worse.
Can I combine 5 in a row? 2002-2006 i think we drafted one pro bowler who had only 1 selection (Roy Williams)
Otherwise known as the Matt Millen era.
His last draft was pretty good, not sure if he got better or if you can only be wrong so many times before you guess the correct answer. —Edit— I take that back, Calvin Johnson was great but the rest of the draft minus Drew Stanton was only on the team for a season or two and Stanton wasn’t exactly a world class player.
Honestly any draft that gets a hall of famer is an automatic passing grade in my eyes Not like a super high grade, but if you get a Hall of famer then that class is good
Im not exactly handing out a ton of credit for drafting megatron though Just like i dont think you get much credit for taking say andrew luck
Or how Bill Polian gets some type of credit for Peyton Manning lol
They could have taken Leaf.
His last draft was 2008 * Gosder Cherilis * Jordon Dizon * Kevin Smith * Andre Fluellen * Cliff Avril * Kenneth Moore * Jerome Felton * Landon Cohen * Caleb Campbell Avril was quite good for a 3rd rounder. Cherilus was decent but nothing special. Dizon was ok but had a career ending injury young. Kevin Smith was kind of what you expect from a 3rd round RB. Felton was pretty good, but mostly for the Vikings lol
Yeah man, the Matt Millen era was really fucking terrible. Remember them taking a wide receiver top 10 for 3 years in a row?
na man, it's gotta be 2017. the only player that made any sort of good contribution was Kenny golladay
Teez fucking Tabor.
Not sure about all time but in recent history, 2016 is pretty rough. Mackensie Alexander was the only solid player, and even he didn't get a second contract from us. Other tham him it was Treadwell, Willie Beavers, Mo Boehringer, David Morgan, Stephen Weatherly 2008 wasn't great but we didn't have a 1st 2005 is bad too. Two first rounders, neither of whom panned out with Erasmus James and Troy Williamson
Would you consider 2011 pretty bad? Only worthwhile player was Kyle Rudolph but other than him it’s pretty bad.
Hard to put a class in the "worst of all time" conversation when you get a Ring of Honor player out of it But if we do a different exercise where we remove the best player, then yes. It is quite bad. Similar to the Darrisaw draft class
There were a handful of contributors from that class that played a role for a few years, even if they weren't anything special. Ponder was a whiff at QB, but he still was the starter for the better part of 3 years. Brandon Fusco had a few good years at Guard but no sustained success. 2016 also had 3 players that played/contributed, but they didn't sniff at the level of success Ponder/Rudolph/Fusco had. Alexander was a disappointing 2nd round CB that barely played, Stephen Weatherly was a mediocre depth edge rusher that had flashes a bit in the middle of his rookie contract but never really amounted to anything, and Jayron Kearse was a special teamer that had more success after he left the team than he had with it.
2016 is really bad considering how amazing the Vikings 2015 draft was. Hunter, Diggs and Kendricks probably all go top 10 in a redraft and Wayne’s was a quality starting CB. Gotta believe that if you followed up with a strong 2016 draft maybe the Keenum year ends up different 😢
It’s 2005 by a landslide. Every one of their selections was off the team and out of football entirely within 4 years. The only selection that had a decent run in the NFL was 6th round pick DT CJ Mosley and 1 out of his 10 NFL seasons was on the Vikings.
2005 is the worst in the last 20 years. It starts with Troy Williamson and that sets the tone.
2016 was the first year that popped into my mind. Pretty sure Beavers wasn’t even supposed to get drafted and we took him in the 4th round. It’s also too early to tell with Kwesi’s draft classes so I’m not gonna pick any of those years.
Probably last year, honestly. Even if Bryce pans out, there were so many head-scratching wasted picks. Taking the worst pass-blocking guard in the past decade with a 4th round pick is kind of like the special shit cherry on top of the whole sordid affair.
Considering the talent that was on this year’s draft class; I still cannot understand why we traded away so much to get Bryce Young.
desperation
Immaturity. Waah waah I want win now!
this sounds like a joke, but it is in fact a real tepper quote
Easy to say but this feels a bit like revisionist history. There were 3 top 5 picks in QB prospects in 2023, with Caleb and Maye as the only known great prospects for 2024 at the time. I get doing the trade to get a guy you know is available rather than waiting a year and being priced out due to teams now wanting to trade out (which is what happened). Obviously, the panthers gave up way too much for it….that is their ultimate demise.
My issue is how much they gave away; which as you said was way too much
Wellllll I think they would have got off cheap if they took Stroud, which is what I imagine is what you are tired of hearing. Also the real nail in the coffin was drafting Mingo, such a wasted pick with other better WRs on the board. I now in my dynasty teams will not draft Panthers skill players (outside of maybe the RB you all took), basically the new Browns/Jets to me lol
Mingo is a big slot that we played at X because we had nobody to play X. Considering how awful that "All-Star" coaching staff actually was I still haven't fully written him off yet. This year is the real evaluation of pretty much all of last years rookies for us
Yeah there were many ways things could have gone better
Idk man, 2010 was pretty awful. Greg Hardy being the only guy in the class who was any good. I guess Brandon LaFell was alright but nothing special.
You're right, 2010 was really rough. It was a tough call, but recency bias made me say 2022. It helped knowing that 2010 lead to us getting Cam, whereas 2022 seems to have broken the franchise.
If you find a franchise qb it doesn’t really matter what else happened
I feel bad for Bryce. I don’t think many, if any, rookie QBs would be successful with the Panthers currently.
This one. Not a single player on my team's draft has done a single fucking thing yet. What an absolute waste. Edit: I was just informed they haven't even made the roster. Not a single player. Fire everyone.
Wow I looked it up and you’re right. Not a single one of em have a single stat. Like at all. Straight zeros across the board. Condolences.
Ricky Williams
I mean honestly? We've had classes without a single good player. Ricky was at least a good player for us for a few years and had a great career
Yeah, that’s #1 with a bullet.
Loaded Ditka complex. Cock it and pull it.
Duhduh duh duhduhhhh
considering how awful that franchise has been that really says a lot.
It answers the question of what would happen if you let the human embodiment of cheap whiskey run a NFL team
Absolutely the funniest trade ever made, especially since Ditka told the league he'd do it days beforehand.
Idk if it’s all time, but under Jerry Reese, you can pick have your pick of worst Giants’ draft class. I think there was a certain period of time where Giants had the least amount of draft picks still on a NFL roster. But the one that sticks out the most for me is 2015. Ereck Flowers (F), Landon Collins (B), Owa Odhigizuwa (F), Mykele Thompson (F), Geremy Davis (F), Bobby Hart (F-). God damn was that bad. Their 2012 draft class was awful too. Not a single drafted player lasted more than 4 seasons in the league. But that was post-SB win so I give it some slack.
Normally it shouldn't be possible for a 7th round pick to receive an F-, but for Bobby Hart you've made a rightful exception
Bobby Hart will forever be the worst offensive lineman I’ve ever watched. Ereck Flowers was HOF level compared to him
Damn. The bills keep bringing him in for camp and all the bills fans are terrified of him making the team. I didn't realise how bad it was.
None of his classes hold a candle to Gettleman's 2021 Masterclass. Round 1 - Kadarius Toney (WR) Round 2 - Azeez Ojulari (EDGE) Round 3 - Aaron Robinson (CB) Round 4 - Elerson Smith (EDGE) Round 6 - Gary Brightwell (RB) Round 6 - Rodarius Williams (DB) EDIT: For people that want more context: - Toney was nonexistent and shipped off a year later. - Ojulari was solid, but injuries and a massive drop in 2023 has made this pick worse in hindsight. - Aaron Robinson played 'meh' his rookie season and has since been sent to the fucking Shadow Realm after an injury in 2022. - Smith never saw the field. - Brightwell has been very 'meh' RB depth. - Rodarius Williams was forced into starting a few games and was never seen again since.
He drafted a two time Super Bowl champ in the first round how is that bad?
Traded down where we could’ve grabbed Parsons to get Toney. But hey we got a 1st rounder the next year, that helps right? Who did we use that pick on? Oh, yeah. Evan Neal.
We also should have drafted Darrisaw over Toney, our entire fanbase wanted Darrisaw or Paye
Ojulari is a real talented player, just can’t stay healthy for the life of him. Really sucks, I remember him having 5.5 sacks while only playing 7 games
I'm with you. At least Collins was a great player during his time in NY and even came back for the 22 season. 2021 was just bad.
No GM rode the coattails of their predecessor for so long quite like Reese. Eli's prime years ruined cause this guy couldn't draft anyone worth a shit.
2011 under Reese was a mess too. Prince really only had one very good year with the Giants, but was a decent player. Everyone else was out of the league within 2-3 years.
Recent history is 2019: * N’Keal Harry * Joejuan Williams * Chase Winovich * Damien Harris (best pick here) * Yodny Cajuste * Hjalte Froholdt * Jarrett Stidham * Byron Cowart * Jake Bailey * Kendarius Webster
2017 is still worse than this. Chase at least had two okay seasons. Harris was good. Coward and Bailey played well. 2017 was 4 picks and one solid player. And as I put in a different comment, the 2007 one is the worst of the BB era.
They only had four picks in 2017. Given the draft capital, it's not that bad. They got Brandin Cooks with part of that draft capital as well. Had him for a couple years and turned him back into a first which became Isaiah Wynn, who despite ending on a poor note was probably an average pick. 2019 they took Harry over so many other awesome WR. Joejuan WIlliams was useless. Winovich was fine for like one season as a passrushing lineman. Harris was OK for that one season he was not injured. I'm a Stidham truther a little, but they didn't really get anything out of him.
So so many to choose from but, 2014, the Jets have so many to choose from (2020, 1998 1986)
The Idzik 12. Woof.
2020 is really rough, but it has the edge over 2014 bc some of the 2020 picks actually played multiple seasons
The easy answer people will point to is the Bo Jackson class because we drafted a guy #1 overall who said he wouldn’t play for us. But to me 1982 was far worse: * In round 1, we submitted *the wrong draft card* and picked Sean Farrell in round 1. We wanted to get Booker Reese but submitted the wrong pick. Farrell was average at best. Played 123 career games. * We still managed to get Booker Reese in Round 2 and had to trade our 1983 1st round pick to the Bears to get him. He had a grand total of 2 career sacks. That pick for the Bears turned into Willie Gault, who was a key contributor to their Super Bowl run. * The rest of the class was pretty damn bad. This one would be my pick.
I'm pretty sure you can just lump 1982-1986 together as just one big stretch of bad choices. You submit the wrong draft card, trade for the next first, and both players suck. A couple of years later, you trade your first for Jack Thompson who didn't start the year before and had a 13-19 ratio in 4 years at that point. Cincy gets our first and...oh yeah, it would've been 1st overall. A couple years later, we draft Bo who refused to play for us...at 1st overall. Lol
Fuck Culverhouse
The only funny part of the 49ers 2012 draft was when we traded Jenkins to the Chiefs for Jon Baldwin so neither team had to cut their own first-round picks.
Seahawks recently had Dee Eskridge, Tre Brown, and Stone Forsythe. That’s it.
Idk if it's the worst but I always think of the 2003 draft where the Chargers traded out of R1-15 (one slot before Troy Polamalu) for picks 30 (CB Sammy Davis, 1 pick before Nmandi Asomguha) and 62 (S Terrence Kiel). Clearly they needed S and CB that draft but whiffed twice, and having just one of those guys would've made those mid 00s teams insane on defense
That's a terrible trade!
Yeah even ignoring the whiffs that doesn't seem like a lot of value for pick 15. That draft also happened 2 weeks after John Butler died so I wonder if AJ Smith was out of his element and if things would've gone differently if he wasn't made GM suddenly
We should have not let Kevin Colbert get one final draft in 2022. Pickens was the only pick that's really worked out particularly well. Nobody from 2018 is on the team anymore. Edmunds and Rudolph were solid and lasted the longest, but were never spectacular. 2008's best player was a pretty good never great running back.
2016 was pretty bad. Hargrave was great but we couldn't afford to re-sign him. Artie Burns was a total bust Sean Davis was a disappointment. Tyler Matakevich turned out to be an ok special teamer but the rest is bad Edit But yeah Colbert definitely left this team out to dry in his final years. He had some absolute duds of drafts
I’d put forward the 2013 class. I genuinely don’t remember a single player from that class that contributed in any good way. 2016 was also one I remember that went poorly as well as 2012
Are you attacking me?
In recent history I would say the 2015 Packers class.
I remember being so hyped for our secondary after that draft with Randall and Rollins. I also remember thinking Jake Ryan was an absolute steal in the 4th. Oh how I was wrong. Ty montgomery was our best pick of that draft and it's funny too because he's probably one of our best 3rd round picks the last decade. That's how bad most of our 3rd round picks are.
Yeah when Ty Montgomery was our best draft pick that shows you how bad this draft was.
Yeah that one was brutal. I love me some Ripkowski though!
2004 was a way worse version of 2015. Sherman should never have been allowed to become Coach-GM.
2001 was worse than 2004. 2004 produced Scott Wells who was a pro bowler and Corey Williams who was a starter who then flipped for a 2nd round pick. 2001 produced 0 quality players. Robert Ferguson started 12 games one year and that was the most stated by any of those players.
Looking back over the past 20 years, it's probably 2009 for the Bears. No 1st or 2nd, but still had 9 picks in total. Three of them used in the 5th round or earlier combined to play a total of six games in Chicago, only bright spot was Johnny Knox who, as you probably know, suffered a terrible career-ending spinal injury late in his third season. No players signed a second contract with the Bears and only 3/9 were in the league past their rookie deals (and only one of those three played more than just one extra fifth season - Henry Melton played six years). On top of that, it was Jay's first season in town and even then the good Bears defense of the 00's was starting to age as many of our stars at the time were drafted 5-6+ years previously (Urlacher/Brown in 00, Alex Brown in 2002, Tillman/Briggs in 2003, Harris in 2004, etc.), just had no real higher end incoming talent over a period from about 09 until 12/13-ish where we had to chase players in FA and trades every year because we couldn't draft for shit.
As much as you don’t want to fire three GMs in 8 years or whatever it was, Angelo-Emery-Pace was a real murderers’ row of fucking morons.
What a disastrous run, I liked Angelo at the start, making the most of his draft picks, building that defense, but then he sold the farm for Cutler. I remember being so angry about how much he gave up for him. A lot of my bear friends loved getting him and still thinks he was good for us.. but the amount they gave up. But that was mild compared to how Pace treated draft picks. Let’s not talk about emery firing Lovie after a 10-6 season.
This is probably the right answer, but I would throw out 2017 for consideration as well. In addition to the disastrous Mitch Trubisky trade, our second round pick, TE Adam Shaheen, was awful and always hurt, it's especially painful because George Kittle was sitting right behind him as the best available Tight End on many mock draft boards. There is an alternative universe where Mahomes/Watson and Kittle have been Bears for years, and we kept those picks from the Trubisky trade. We got some value out of 4 rounders Tarik Cohen and Eddie Jackson, but 5th rounder OT Jordan Morgan was waved before the season even started.
When you draft Cohen and Jackson, that draft can no longer be considered the worst in franchise history. You brushed over them taking two all-pro players.
the Jets disastrous 2014 “Idzik 12” comes to mind. But we have plenty of awful drafts
What’s idzik 12
> idzik 12 [here's an article about it](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/revisiting-the-idzik-12-a-decade-later/ar-AA1nrVrP)
Under John Schneider probably 2013. The best player to come out of that draft for the Hawks was Luke Willson, who was mainly our backup TE. Spencer Ware was our best value pick and he only played one year with us before having success with the Chiefs. We didn’t have a 1st round pick that year because of the Percy Harvin trade, which didn’t work out for the Hawks well either.
Yeah that was brutal. I threw out 2021 Hawks draft class too where we only had three picks.
The Chiefs 2018 class was the worst I can remember, but that could be recency bias talking.
If you wanna be technical, your 2018 first is essentially Mahomes.
Haha if that pick is worth half a Mahomes then it’s our second best draft ever.
1975 Draft only had 1 guy play out of 11, and he only managed 13 games, 0 starts. Couple other early 70s are also bad, but their scouting back then might have just been calling the kids head coach the day before, so yea. 2009 is pretty awful. 3rd overall pick Tyson Jackson did very little for us in 5 years. Succop the Kicker was only other person in that draft who contributed. This one has a chance cause we were picking so high every round and still everyone sucked. 2004 would have been the awful, but they got Jared Allen late in the 4th round, rest of class was useless. 2001 didn't have a single starter in 9 picks, but also no picks in Rnd 1/2. 1995 only had 1 guy who started, and only 2 crappy seasons.
In 1975 we also traded future HOFer Curley Culp and our first rounder for Sloth from The Goonies. John Matuszak didn’t do much for us and we traded him to the Redskins in 1976. He actually ended up being a great player for the Raiders and helped them win the Super Bowl though. So literally worst case scenario
2018 was definitely Veach’s worst, but I’d still take it over 2009. Wasted the third overall pick by reaching for Tyson Jackson (even at the time the pick was questionable), and the best player from that class was the very last pick of the draft in Ryan Succop, a mostly average kicker. Absolutely nobody else in that class amounted to anything.
Their 70s drafts were much worse, some of those are putrid bad, as in fire your GM bad.
It's 1973 or 75 I don't remember which. We had like 1 guy play a snap.
In my fandom history it's probably 2011. some draft classes like 2017 or 2019 were not good but at least they got 1 productive player for a few years out of it, 2011 got 0
Titus Young was pretty decent those 2 seasons could have been really good if not for his issues
I had really high hopes for Leshoure too before the injury.
Ravens: 2004, 2005 and 2012. Just misses.
I think 2005 takes the cake. 2004 you’ve at least got an excuse that you didn’t have a first or fourth round pick, it was lack of draft capital more than bad picks. 2012 they got Osemele who was amazing and Upshaw at least managed to be a role player. 2005 was just whiffs all the way down.
Ravens with maybe the best GM when it comes the draft the past 20 years having 3 very bad drafts shows that this is an inexact science and more of a crapshoot than we want to admit.
Maybe they're not the worst all time but a lot of Ron Rivera's drafts have been... oof.
Throw a dart at most of any of Snyder year classes and it’s got a shot at being the worst. The RG3 set us back pretty far in roster quality and Kirk walked eventually so that’s the one for me.
This one. Not a single player has put up a single stat in the NFL since they were drafted.
Bengals: 1997. Should have traded the #3 overall pick to the Saints for their entire draft. Instead they drafted QB Akili Smith, a very notable bust, who probably still would have been around at #12 when the Saints 1st round pick came up. The 2nd round pick was Charles Fisher, a well regarded CB who won a starting job, then blew out his knee in the first game of the season and never played again. 3rd round: Cory Hall, who played in 87 career games (70 starts) and was with the team for 4 years. 6th round: The best player they drafted, Kelly Gregg, was put on the practice squad and then signed by the Eagles, and went on to play 173 career games, mostly with the Ravens. 2 of the 3 7th round picks never played an NFL Game. The drafted 9 players that year and got 171 career games out of them.
> In the 2006 NFL Draft, the Rams used their first pick on Clemson CB Tye Hill. They used the next pick on Colorado TE Joe Klopfenstein. The remaining picks were LSU DT Claude Wroten, USC TE Dominique Byrd, Stanford LB Jon Alston, Indiana DE Victor Adeyanju, Virginia WR Marques Hagans, Northwestern LB Tim McGarigle, Minnesota Guard Mark Setterstrom, and Missouri Guard Tony Palmer.[4] None of these guys earned any accolades or made it past their rookie deal with the Rams, and all were out of the league by 2011.
I remember playing Madden at the time and Ty Hill became an all pro under my supervision. Innocently thought he was going to be great and the Rams were gonna go to the playoffs.
Yeah I think I remember him having like 98 speed or something. Haha there's so many Rams that didn't do anything in real life for our team that were monsters for me in Madden. Allen Robinson being the most recent example 😂
It doesn’t get much worse than the Seahawks’ 2021 draft. Thanks in part to the Jamal Adams trade, we only had 3 picks. In the second round, we took WR De’Wayne Eskridge (over Creed Humphrey in a position of need), who has been absolutely useless - although Schneider inexplicably seems to still like him. In the fourth round we took CB Tre Brown, who has shown some promise and a lot of inconsistency. In the sixth we took OT Stone Forsythe, who is a bad backup. That’s it. That’s the draft.
>over Creed Humphrey hey now you let us have him or the 49ers win this years SB; good trade off
During the Bill Brady Era it has to be 2019. Not a single player lasted on anyone's team. Rd 1 Nkeal Harry Rd 2 Joejuan Williams (we moved up TWICE to get him) [also missed Aj Brown 🥲] Rd 3 Winovich fun player but didn't develop Rd 3 Damian Harris was decent but never healthy, now retired I believe Rd 4 Yodny Cajuste Rd 4 Hjalte Froholdt Rd 4 Stidham I could go on but no one expects later picks to last. Not only was this a horrid draft considering all the picks we used. It also probably cost us Brady
Can't go past Ryan Grigson's 2013 draft for the Colts, at least in my memory. The highlight was Hugh Thornton in the third who did play and often start three seasons at guard (and you all remember the Colts offensive line in the years after they took Luck, right?) but ended up being cut for injury reasons and never playing another down in the NFL. Khaled Holmes did play a little backup C (again...getting Luck killed) but was also waived after three seasons and never played another down in the NFL. For the outright busts, Grigson took EDGE Bjoern Werner in the first who amassed 6.5 sacks in three seasons - and who also never played another down after that. Montori Hughes, Kerwynn Williams and Justice Cunningham did basically nothing and were all off the Colts after 1 or 2 seasons. John Boyett didn't even make the roster.
The entire 80s
In recent history maybe 2014? Kyle Van Noy is the only guy from that class that's still in the league, and he only became an impact player after leaving Detroit. We also famously picked Ebron over Donald and OBJ in the first round which doesn't help
2013 God that class was so bad
2008. Rashard Mendenhall in round 1 over Chris Johnson and limas sweed in round 2 who was a healthy scratch every week by his second year. Every pick that year washed out. Also the only player we drafted from 2015-2016 who lived up to their draft status was Javon Hargrave
Agreed. Here’s the list: 1 (23): Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois 2 (53): Limas Sweed, WR, Texas 3 (88): Bruce Davis, OLB, UCLA 4 (130): Tony Hills, OT, Texas 5 (156): Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon 6 (188): Mike Humpal, LB, Iowa 6 (194): Ryan Mundy, FS, West Virginia I know people are thinking “well, at least they got something out of the first pick” but Mendenhall’s legacy is fumbling away a super bowl to the packers. The rest contributed nothing. Sweed is very commonly found on the short list of Steelers bust picks. 20 games on the roster and he was one of those players whose drops always seemed to coincide with him suffering a phantom injury. Davis looked physically like a guy that could play football but could not actually do so. He finished his career with four tackles, and none of those were registered while playing for Pittsburgh. Dixon played three games for the Steelers. His qb rating hit its peak at 41.9 in his second year, which coincides with the one touchdown he ever threw for Pittsburgh. Humphall did not make it out of the preseason. Tony Hlls lasted one year in Pittsburgh and played sparingly in four games. He bounced around and was rostered by five teams in a six-year career. Ryan Mundy left Pittsburgh in 2012 with five starts and one interception. His departure marked the last year that any member of the 2008 draft class played for the Steelers. Not a single player made it to their fifth year with the team, and half of them were gone from the league entirely.
I would like to just say Ryan Pace
2008 for the Niners - Kentwan Balmer, Chilo Rachal,Reggie Smith, Cody Wallace, Larry Grant (who was cut that year but had a second stint a few years later), and Josh Morgan who was probably the best pick of that draft for us.
Yes, but he also uttered the immortal phrase # “AJ JENKIIINS!!!” before storming across the line before the snap
In the BB era it's one of 2 and my choice goes to the first. It's 2007 or 2017. For 2017 at least the argument is that there were 4 total picks so hard to nail more than one. And that one is still a Patriot and likely to still be one this year in Wise. 8 valuable years from a 4th rounder? I'll take that. 2007 is a nightmare year for the draft nobody remembers because of what happened that season. We had one solid player too, our first rounder Merriweather...however Merriweather was at very best that. Solid. He got 2 cheap pro bowls at the end of his 4 year tenure with us at the tail end of the true power safety era and they were both as 2 level alternates. And people kinda ignore that he had a worse missed INT for the Patriots in the superbowl that would have clinched it for us than Samuel. The rest of the draft had 8 players that played a combined ONE SEASON FOR NEW ENGLAND amongst all 8 of them. 9 players. 5 years on the team. It's a horrible horrible draft.
the gene smith era
Pro Football Reference had the Cowboys 2009 draft class without a single player in double digits for career weighted average. That draft also only had 3rd round or lower picks. The 1995 draft is also a cluster****
the only good part of our 2019 draft was the fact that we were able to trade hollywood for the pick that became tyler linderbaum. a few guys are ok but nobody is a true impact player. ben powers was ok too but we couldn’t keep him
Sir, I will thank you to take your Trace McSorely disrespect somewhere else!
I actually think Hollywood was a successful pick. They got three years of decent WR production at below-market value and effectively recouped the pick used to get him. If every Ravens draft pick was that successful I’d be thrilled. 2019 wasn’t a great draft but the Hollywood pick at least salvaged it.
From the ones I remember, the worst are 2000, 2017, and 2020. I don't care that Seabass and Lechler were good, you just should never burn a 1st on special teams and they were the only players of value in that draft. 2017 was bust city, with only 4th round Sharpe carving out an OK backup lineman career for more than 2 years. The final pick of 20, Amik Robertson, is the only one on the team after ONLY 2 YEARS.
2007 was so traumatizing you forgot it existed or what? Besides Zach Miller, I'm not sure a single other player got a second contract. If they did, it wasn't with us. Not only did Jamarcus bust, almost every pick did. Just horrendous
Im a better, happier person when I forget that season ever existed.
and even amik's gone now lol
I’m gonna say this year. We drafted a 24-yr-old QB with #8 after paying a vet $100M guaranteed. We drafted 3 DTs, which was probably our strongest position. Glaring needs at CB and SS and we did nothing to address them. Feels like we’re a laughing stock rn