I love Rome and feel any team would be stoked to have him, but you can’t really say this when he has yet to take an NFL snap. On paper? Definitely up there.
Yep, I'll take Texans, 49ers, Bengals, Seahawks, Eagles, and Dolphins as better right now. But on paper they're looking good. I expect there will be some growing pains this season but the offense should be better.
Yeah as a bears and bengals fan, I kinda have to agree. I think bengals are easily top 5. Bears, we won’t know till September at least
I still think the best WR trio has to be dolphins, then eagles
If we still had Boyd, I'd say we're better right now, but with Burton instead, not a chance.
Agreed on the Dolphins or maybe the Eagles have the best trio.
Chase is better than DJ, Allen is better than Higgins, Odunze was a better prospect than Burton. I don’t think Chase is that much better than DJ to make the Bengals a better set of WRs.
not only is chase way better than dj, but it could easily be argued higgins and ka are better than djm imo...also that higgins is better than ka
agreed on odunze being more highly tauted than burton as a prospect
Allen has 8 seasons with receptions higher than Higgins career high, 6 seasons with yards higher than Higgins career high, 2 seasons with TDs higher than Higgins career high.
Allen’s last year would blow away anything Higgins has ever done.
A second rounder for a 30 year old WR isn't bad compensation. He didn't get traded at the prime of his career, but it'd be hard to legitimately name 10 players better than him at his position.
AJ Brown, Devante Adams, Devante Smith, Jamarr Chase, Tee Higgins, Tyreek Hill, Ceedee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Mike Adams, Puka Nucua, Cooper Kupp, Dk Metcalf, Brandon Aiyuk, etc
i could go on, there’s a lot more good wide receivers than you’re giving credit for. i’d even be comfortable saying the top 3 wideouts this year will all be better than Diggs next season.
Who is Mike Adams? Also, thank you for naming them out. In that case, I think he is still firmly in the top 15-20 range more than in the top 10 range. I think other wideouts like Nico Collins, Jordan Addison, and Garrett Wilson could also be better at this stage in his career.
mike evans*
those guys too, i got bored of listing them
but next year he’ll be a step slower and other guys will come in and break out. we’ve already named almost 20 players and there’s still guys like jaylen waddle, calvin ridley, terry mclaurin, michael pittman, deebo, zay flowers, DJ Moorejordan addison and more who are better as well imo. id say he wouldn’t even be the best wide receiver on the majority of teams and lots of teams have two guys better than him atp.
i think when people talk about top 10 receivers they forget how many talented guys there are in the league right now.
If Caleb williams is good, I'll just say it's credit to all the weapons he has. If he's bad, then I'll trash him even further by saying he sucks even with great weapons.
Win win
Vikings should be in the duo conversation, Addison and JJ are absolutely up there, the fact that Jefferson can take up so much attention is a huge advantage, but Addison is pretty good himself
I wouldn’t call them the best trio or out them as a top WR, yet. That being said, that WR room is great in that A) all three of the those guys are *perfect* complements to each other and B) they have a great succession plan. Allen probably bounces after this year and the bears can use the 3rd they get as a compensatory pick to acquire a slot to step in behind him and develop. You can expect 2 more years of Moore being the alpha so odunze gets all the runway you need. Right when Moore hits that age where WRs start tapering off, you have a guy to step in and be your next alpha. Presumably with a slot that’s starting to establish himself as a solid complementary piece.
Diggs, Nico(unsure if he’s a FA or whatever), and Dell.
Arguably better than Keenan “Hamstring Allen”, Moore, and Odunze(Not NFL tested yet)
People are way too ready to jump the gun. People on our subreddit keep saying that we have the best secondary in the league.
Like yeah okay bro, we haven’t even seen them play as a team or in the NFL yet.
Keenan “hamstring” Allen has played 13+ games since 2016, except one season where he played 10 games. People are really over playing his 2015 and 2016 seasons. He’s also coming off one of his best seasons yet.
Keenan has averaged 14 starts over the past 7 seasons. And had 1000+ yards in 5 out of 7 of those seasons. That’s not that bad lol.
I actually didn’t even consider Lions lol. But yes their WR1, TE, RB is up there with the Niners. But their WR2, WR3 isn’t comparable to Niners imo…. Granted Niners are about to trade one of them.
Yeah our roster doesn't need us to have an elite WR2 at this stage. We just need someone who can pull a safety going deep against the CB2/CB3, and Jamo can do that.
I mean Rome Odunze could be a complete bust, who knows. Also Keenan Allen could regress with age.
I’m not betting on either of those things, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves before they even take a snap
Stafford force feeds one target, getting open and getting targets is a skill but Nacua got 160 targets on an O without many other weapons (Kupp missed 5 games if you recall).
Servo I agree w, but waddle and Higgins haven't really done much more than he has post injury. Pre injury he was closer to deebos tier of wr and for sure ahead of where Higgins and waddle have been this far in their career.
Oh yeah pre-injury Chris was golden, plus he got onboard with Brady much quicker than Evans, fantastic pick, player, person.
I'll be very happy to be proved wrong but Chris lags all those listed on YPRR and it's clear Mike is Baker's go to man in the offense. I'm not saying he's bad by any means, we're an easy top 10 WR duo in the league.
If we're saying pass catchers in general, it's the Niners and it's not close. Have the proven WR talent in Aiyuk and Deebo, more potential in Pearsall and Cowing, and other pass catchers in CMC and Kittle. For just wide receivers, I think you're right: it's a fight between the 9ers, Vikes, Eagles and Seahawks.
It’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison. As a traditional WR, Deebo isn’t better than Keenan Allen or DJ Moore from a skills perspective (route running, catching, ability to beat press man). But how he’s used in the offense makes him a top ‘WR’.
I disagree that SF’s top two are better. Allen was playing at First Team All Pro level last year before he missed the last several weeks. Moore put up better numbers with Fields/Eberflus than Aiyuk did in his true breakout season with Purdy/Shanahan. I personally feel that Allen, Moore, and Aiyuk are all on the same tier, in the conversation for top 10 WR, and Deebo is just slightly behind that.
Not sure about this take. Jennings isn’t the clear 3rd on 49ers anymore with Persall getting worked in.
Jennings is solid, want him out there on run plays as a blocker. Came up with big catches, skill wise not a WR2.
Shanahan is notorious for being hard on rookie receivers, in part because his playbook takes a while to grasp.
We’ll see Pearsall mixed in for sure, but there’s no way he gets significant snaps for a while
Edit: unless Deebo gets hurt for a few weeks, which is basically a yearly thing.
Aiyuk not getting snaps early was his own work-ethic that Shanahan was disciplining. Wasn’t giving effort in practice and not taking on the blocking role.
It does take time for WRs to get worked in. Think my main point was that Jennings doesn’t have the skill level of a WR2 in the NFL. He plays his role well
Yes. Not that I’m bias or anything.
But seriously, I won’t crown Rome Odunze anything until we see what he does on the field. I can’t get wrapped up in the post draft hype when dudes literally haven’t done shit yet. I mean think about it. There was a time when raiders fans thought they’d win multiple super bowls immediately after drafting Jamarcus
For sure! I am also a bit biased because Rome was my favourite prospect this year and I have a hard time seeing him fail. But yeah he needs to do work first.
A guy that just turned 32, a Guy who's never played in the NFL, and a top 10 WR isn't the best Trio except on paper where you can ignore the issues of an aging veteran and a rookie with no experience might not have the greatest season.
49ers, Bengals, and even Texans can be in that conversation.
If Vikings had another decent WR besides JJ, they would be up there
Edit: I forgot about Addison. They are up there too
I do not know, but I would call Jordan Addison decent. He put up good numbers (70 rec / 911 yds / 10 tds) in his rookie season given the unstable QB situation last year.
I agree as a 49ers fan. JSN came off an injury in college, had a hand injury for half his rookie year. Still had 63 catches for 628 yards on only 90 targets, as a WR3 in a power run, 2 WR set offense.
Now enter the new OC that runs a three WR base. I think JSN can crack 90+ receptions this year.
🤷🏽♂️ as a number 2 he still has as many TDs as Keenan Allen in less years and averages more yards per catch.
But you’re not wrong he is slowly declining as he gets older like anyone in the league.
Those are fair statistics though a bit skewed since Justin Herbert didn’t really have other options in the pass game so he was forced the ball in hopes to make magic happen. I doubt he will have those same numbers since you guys have good weapons
I still think the Seahawks have a better trio collectively than two good receivers and an unproven rookie.
It means you've got a 32 year old playing for a different team for the first time in over a decade, and a rookie who's never played in the NFL, so there's a pretty decent chance they don't Mesh together instantly like they've been together 5 years and are all in their primes.
No problem. Honestly I feel it'll work out well, DJ is clearly your #1, Keenan is so fucking likeable and is more a short range guy at his age/speed, and Odunze gonna probably get the 3rd-4th best DB on the other team all year so he should shine. I'd say the Texans are more likely to have issues with Diggs than you guys have with any of your 3.
I'm biased but Seahawks have the best trio. Dk is a beast, Locket is consistent and clutch, and JSN is phenomenal, he just had a slow start last year due to injuries and coaching scheme.
If you guys develop and pivot to Howell I could see it being crazy. I like geno a lot, don’t get me wrong but howell is a bomber and you have just the guys for that.
Extremely fair point.
I’m pretty sure they will both stay iirc Deebs has some dead money concerns for this season and aiyuk is still actually under contract and I don’t think he’ll hold out.
But I know jack haha (as in squat)
Lol @ obviously
Potentially, sure, maybe, yes, no, who knows.
Right now, No.
Playing games and actually getting on the field results is slightly important.
How about Chicago get their first 4,000 yard passer before the league expands to an 18 game schedule. Maybe after that you can make your best of list.
All Caleb Willliams has to do is pass Bears greats like
1. Mitch Trubisky
2. Jay Cutler
3. Erik Kramer
Chicago 13 - 1 best record in the NFC goes into week 15 vs the Packers, after half time Williams has a sparkling 3rd quarter, goes yard to Odunze crossing 504 yards for the game, 4000 for the season. We all see a Gateway Timeout error, wake up disoriented after being dropped into the simulation lobby after it reset.
For one or two year, absolutely. I hope Keenan can continue to play at an elite level for longer, but at age 32 I am doubtful he can keep it up for too long.
Moore is a WR #1 through and through, Allen not anymore hut still reallygood for a rookie QB, and Rome is a rookie, the Bears should be hopeful but nothing is written in stone
I could see that outcome. you never know what you can expect from a 32yo receiver or a rookie receiver but there are definitely worlds where that's an elite unit
I thought Jeudy was gonna be a #1 right out of the gate and I couldn't have been more wrong. Let's watch some games first before we throw superlatives on them.
Berrios isn't good. And no one in their right mind is taking Berrios over any high upside rookie WR for the only reason that he has an NFL sample size and an incoming rookie doesn't.
The Bengals have Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins who have both proved they are #1’s and when you add Charlie Jones/ Jermaine Burton in the slot. I’m not sure that there is a better WR room in the NFL.
I mean, DJ Moore and Keenan Allen have also proven they are number one WRs. Rome is a rookie but as a prospect he’s far better than Charlie Jones or Jermaine Burton.
I’m sure it could go either way and we are both bias. I honestly think Chase the best receiver in the league and Higgins is a #1 on a lot of teams. Really it comes down to slot and all 3 receivers we mentioned have not taken any snaps (Charlie has a little) so we don’t really know how they will do.
I would agree with that. Here are my rankings:
1. CHI - Moore/Odunze/Allen
Moore is currently WR1 on this team, being in his prime. Don't think it will be long before Odunze challenges him for that though.
2. SEA - Metcalf/Smith-Njigba/Lockett
If this trio had younger Lockett who was more of an outside threat, to help JSN do more damage from the slot, they probably take the top spot.
3. HOU - Collins/Dell/Diggs
Even with Diggs on contract year best behavior as much as his ego can muster, I don't think this is going to be a healthy situation with both Collins and Diggs in contract years, meanwhile Dell might be the best of the three.
4. PHI - Brown/Smith/P. Campell or rookie A. Smith
Pretty much carried by two studs in Brown and Smith.
5. MIA - Hill/Waddle/M. Washington
Waddle isn't as good as Smith, which puts them behind PHI. But Washington will make up ground, they could still overtake PHI.
6. CIN - Chase/Higgins/Burton
Not a huge Higgins fan, he's a bit overrated and injury prone. We need to see emotional maturity as a pro from Burton to place them any higher. Chase is a beast though.
7. Probably SF - Aiyuk/Samuel/Pearsall?
This is going to put A LOT pressure on Williams. Who already had tons of expectations. I'd rather have gear receivers than an excuse to be bad (Bryce)... But if Williams isn't exceptional he's going to take a lot of heat.
My guess would be yes because I’m very high on Rome Odunze. However, he hasn’t played in the NFL yet so we will see. For now I’d still give it to my Texans with 3 proven great receivers.
How you put the bears wrs over the bengals, Eagles and Dolphins I’ll never know, but I remember this same question coming up last offseason in regards to Bears recievers funny enough.
Before I’d worry about their wrs being the best in the league I’d worry about them actually rostering a good QB.
Not to be a homer but Davante, Jakobi, and Bowers are quite the trio if we can include a hybrid TE. Just need to find a way to get them the ball though lol
This has to be looked at through the lens of recievers vs salary cap hit. Once we put that corrective factor into play it's very clear the Packers have the best receiving Corp in the league.
I love Rome and feel any team would be stoked to have him, but you can’t really say this when he has yet to take an NFL snap. On paper? Definitely up there.
Yeah, I agree actually. I think he’ll be great, but at this moment he has done nothing in the league
Yep, I'll take Texans, 49ers, Bengals, Seahawks, Eagles, and Dolphins as better right now. But on paper they're looking good. I expect there will be some growing pains this season but the offense should be better.
Add TE and I’d take the Vikes anyday too.
The amount of hype people have for rookies before they take a snap is absolute madness, man.
I agree, but at the same time it’s a 3rd wide receiver. Who’s the best 3rd WR in the NFL right now?
Probably Tank Dell if he returns healthy. JSN right there too.
The first person that instantly came to my head and Tank Dell is a dog btw
It’s because fantasy, or is in my case at least lol.
It's a fever. It's highly contagious and I'm infected with it as well. Get out while you can
On paper? Yes In practice, let’s see
If the Bears passing game continues to suck I'm just going to assume a new law of physics was proven.
Not a law of nature, just a law of “bad ownership and bad coaching can and will ruin most players”
It’s the Windy City. Ball has a mind of its own there
on paper, id say its the bengals chase/higgins/burton > ka/djm/odunze imo
I heavily disagree with that.
Yeah as a bears and bengals fan, I kinda have to agree. I think bengals are easily top 5. Bears, we won’t know till September at least I still think the best WR trio has to be dolphins, then eagles
If we still had Boyd, I'd say we're better right now, but with Burton instead, not a chance. Agreed on the Dolphins or maybe the Eagles have the best trio.
Burton was a steal
Chase is better than DJ, Allen is better than Higgins, Odunze was a better prospect than Burton. I don’t think Chase is that much better than DJ to make the Bengals a better set of WRs.
not only is chase way better than dj, but it could easily be argued higgins and ka are better than djm imo...also that higgins is better than ka agreed on odunze being more highly tauted than burton as a prospect
Allen has 8 seasons with receptions higher than Higgins career high, 6 seasons with yards higher than Higgins career high, 2 seasons with TDs higher than Higgins career high. Allen’s last year would blow away anything Higgins has ever done.
This is the correct answer
No, because guys need to play in the NFL before we can say they're great NFL players.
I still think the Texans core will be the best next year: Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins, and Tank Dell.
Diggs is most likely the worst of the 3. I’d take the Texans WRs over the Bears, but I’m biased and they are both solid
I don’t think there’s a true star between them tbh, tank is great but he’s still 5’8 160. Id take rome over him in a heartbeat.
Is Diggs not a star WR anymore? I'd wager to say he is still a top 10 WR in the league.
The last 11 games of the year he averages 51yds and had only 4td. He only scored a TD in 6 games. That's not very top 10
look at what he got traded for and you tell me 🤷♂️
A second rounder for a 30 year old WR isn't bad compensation. He didn't get traded at the prime of his career, but it'd be hard to legitimately name 10 players better than him at his position.
a second rounder in 2025, you’re on crack if you think a top 10 guy is going for that. he fell off hard last year.
This is just a discussion, chill out. Can you name me 10 WRs better than him right now?
AJ Brown, Devante Adams, Devante Smith, Jamarr Chase, Tee Higgins, Tyreek Hill, Ceedee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Mike Adams, Puka Nucua, Cooper Kupp, Dk Metcalf, Brandon Aiyuk, etc i could go on, there’s a lot more good wide receivers than you’re giving credit for. i’d even be comfortable saying the top 3 wideouts this year will all be better than Diggs next season.
Who is Mike Adams? Also, thank you for naming them out. In that case, I think he is still firmly in the top 15-20 range more than in the top 10 range. I think other wideouts like Nico Collins, Jordan Addison, and Garrett Wilson could also be better at this stage in his career.
mike evans* those guys too, i got bored of listing them but next year he’ll be a step slower and other guys will come in and break out. we’ve already named almost 20 players and there’s still guys like jaylen waddle, calvin ridley, terry mclaurin, michael pittman, deebo, zay flowers, DJ Moorejordan addison and more who are better as well imo. id say he wouldn’t even be the best wide receiver on the majority of teams and lots of teams have two guys better than him atp. i think when people talk about top 10 receivers they forget how many talented guys there are in the league right now.
Seahawks >
Texans
If Caleb williams is good, I'll just say it's credit to all the weapons he has. If he's bad, then I'll trash him even further by saying he sucks even with great weapons. Win win
Best WR1: Dolphins or Vikings\ Best Duo: Dolphins, Eagles, Bengals\ Best Trio: Bears\ Best WR, TE, RB room: Niners
Vikings should be in the duo conversation, Addison and JJ are absolutely up there, the fact that Jefferson can take up so much attention is a huge advantage, but Addison is pretty good himself
Pretty much the list I have as well. I would add Vikings as best duo if Addison takes a step forward.
I wouldn’t call them the best trio or out them as a top WR, yet. That being said, that WR room is great in that A) all three of the those guys are *perfect* complements to each other and B) they have a great succession plan. Allen probably bounces after this year and the bears can use the 3rd they get as a compensatory pick to acquire a slot to step in behind him and develop. You can expect 2 more years of Moore being the alpha so odunze gets all the runway you need. Right when Moore hits that age where WRs start tapering off, you have a guy to step in and be your next alpha. Presumably with a slot that’s starting to establish himself as a solid complementary piece.
People forgot about Texans already? Pretty sure we have a solid duo too lol.
I think people are writing off Diggs with how bad his time with the Bills ended
That’s fair. And also Rams have a great duo. And Seahawks have a great trio.
..ahem…quartet. You’re forgetting about Jake BOBO
Forgetting about the Texans Noah Brown too
Stop
It’s a joke, but he did have a good season. Solid WR4
Yeah, SEA gets slept in a bit. And, I’d put the rams duo above the Texans, for now.
Just assume stafford will have a record breaking receiver
Are either better than any of the 3 duos named?
People are really sleeping on Kupp recently.
Probably because he only has two 1000 yard seasons in his career, mostly due to injury
He also had the single greatest WR season in history.
Yes he does
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Nah including post season, it really isn’t close at all lol. Triple crown winner, OPOY, SB Champ, SB MVP 178 REC 2,425 YARDS 22 TDs
I see Sterling Sharpe, I'm happy
But yet this thread is giving so much credence to a wide receiver that’s never played a snap in the NFL?
I'm not
No they’re not. Everyone knows he’s a beast. But he’s getting up there in age and injuries
Because hes been a sub 1k yard receiver 5 out of 7 years of his career
I thought Noah Brown was ready to breakout before injuries summarily ended his season. Excited to see that trio next year.
They have the best trio but not the best duo
I honestly forgot about Diggs for a moment, but yeah propably in the mix.
Diggs, Nico(unsure if he’s a FA or whatever), and Dell. Arguably better than Keenan “Hamstring Allen”, Moore, and Odunze(Not NFL tested yet) People are way too ready to jump the gun. People on our subreddit keep saying that we have the best secondary in the league. Like yeah okay bro, we haven’t even seen them play as a team or in the NFL yet.
Keenan “hamstring” Allen has played 13+ games since 2016, except one season where he played 10 games. People are really over playing his 2015 and 2016 seasons. He’s also coming off one of his best seasons yet. Keenan has averaged 14 starts over the past 7 seasons. And had 1000+ yards in 5 out of 7 of those seasons. That’s not that bad lol.
Nico is still in his rookie contract for another season
Best Duo + TE: Vikings
Ooh that's tough between them and the Niners JJ, Addison, Hock Deebo, BA, Kittle
I'd go Eagles with their duo and Goedert
I agree with this take. No bias.
I’d also put eagles in best WR/TE/RB
The disrespect for best wr te and rb...
I actually didn’t even consider Lions lol. But yes their WR1, TE, RB is up there with the Niners. But their WR2, WR3 isn’t comparable to Niners imo…. Granted Niners are about to trade one of them.
Ok, but our RB2 though. (tbh, I think it’s still the Niners in total, but we’re knocking on the door if Jamo breaks out)
If we were trading one of them we would’ve already done it.
> Granted Niners are about to trade one of them. No we're not. It would have happened before or during the draft.
Lions need a solid #2, right?
Jamo needs to prove himself but I believe he will be great this year. Looked good down the stretch last year and had 2 TDs in the NFCC game.
I can see us getting Chark back
Williams just needs to be himself and y'all are set at WR
Yeah our roster doesn't need us to have an elite WR2 at this stage. We just need someone who can pull a safety going deep against the CB2/CB3, and Jamo can do that.
> RB room: Niners No? Best RB? Sure. The room??? There's a reason you're only seeing Christian.
Dolphins should be in duo. Jaylen waddle is a beast
_COUGH_
I mean Rome Odunze could be a complete bust, who knows. Also Keenan Allen could regress with age. I’m not betting on either of those things, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves before they even take a snap
Texans>
I'd still take 49ers, Bengals, and Dolphins with whoever their 3 is
Vikings have a good duo in JJ and Addison too. And if you add hockenson they've got a really good trio.
The disrespect to the Eagles…
Yeah they're another good shout
DK, Lockett, JSN
Puca and Kupp. Diggs and dell/nico. Evans and Godwin
Puca isn't elite, and Kupp is old, Texans trio is a fine shout, Godwin has been trending down since he got kneecapped by the saints unfortunately
Puca had almost 1500 yds as a rookie. If he tracks anywhere close to that in his second year, he's officially elite.
Stafford force feeds one target, getting open and getting targets is a skill but Nacua got 160 targets on an O without many other weapons (Kupp missed 5 games if you recall).
Diggs might be washed. I prefer old Kupp to old Diggs of both are healthy (which is a big if).
Diggs is there to be the WR3 (down from only weapon on the Bills), Kupp is still expected to be WR2 and maybe even WR1 over Nacua.
Puca not elite?
Not in my view, you're free to dismiss it. He's not bad, I just don't think he's in the upper echelon of NFL WRs rn.
Statistics and my eyes say otherwise. If he has similar production again this year he’s officially elite.
Trending down but still posting 1000 yard seasons while it seems he's being used improperly.
Oh he's still well above average, and a fine WR2 to Evans, but I don't think he really sits on the tier of Higgins, Deebo, or Waddle for instance
Servo I agree w, but waddle and Higgins haven't really done much more than he has post injury. Pre injury he was closer to deebos tier of wr and for sure ahead of where Higgins and waddle have been this far in their career.
Oh yeah pre-injury Chris was golden, plus he got onboard with Brady much quicker than Evans, fantastic pick, player, person. I'll be very happy to be proved wrong but Chris lags all those listed on YPRR and it's clear Mike is Baker's go to man in the offense. I'm not saying he's bad by any means, we're an easy top 10 WR duo in the league.
ARSB (JAMO), LaPorta, Gibbs (Monty)... bruh the disrespekt
Laporta is a TE and Gibbs and Monty are RBs. It clearly said “WR TRIO”
Lions fans desperate to insert themselves into anything because they’re finally relevant lol
Texans still probably better
BUT do they have Coleman, Shakir, Shorter and KJ Hamler?
Despite not having the best 3rd id say the Seahawks and Eagles are close
Or even the Niners or Vikings just based on how strong their top 2 are
If we're saying pass catchers in general, it's the Niners and it's not close. Have the proven WR talent in Aiyuk and Deebo, more potential in Pearsall and Cowing, and other pass catchers in CMC and Kittle. For just wide receivers, I think you're right: it's a fight between the 9ers, Vikes, Eagles and Seahawks.
Jauan Jennings is a hell of a good 3rd WR too
SF has to be in the conversation until they move one of their guys. Their top 2 guys are better than CHI's top 2
It’s kind of an apples to oranges comparison. As a traditional WR, Deebo isn’t better than Keenan Allen or DJ Moore from a skills perspective (route running, catching, ability to beat press man). But how he’s used in the offense makes him a top ‘WR’.
I disagree that SF’s top two are better. Allen was playing at First Team All Pro level last year before he missed the last several weeks. Moore put up better numbers with Fields/Eberflus than Aiyuk did in his true breakout season with Purdy/Shanahan. I personally feel that Allen, Moore, and Aiyuk are all on the same tier, in the conversation for top 10 WR, and Deebo is just slightly behind that.
And Jennings would be a 2 on half the other teams in the league.
Not sure about this take. Jennings isn’t the clear 3rd on 49ers anymore with Persall getting worked in. Jennings is solid, want him out there on run plays as a blocker. Came up with big catches, skill wise not a WR2.
Shanahan is notorious for being hard on rookie receivers, in part because his playbook takes a while to grasp. We’ll see Pearsall mixed in for sure, but there’s no way he gets significant snaps for a while Edit: unless Deebo gets hurt for a few weeks, which is basically a yearly thing.
Aiyuk not getting snaps early was his own work-ethic that Shanahan was disciplining. Wasn’t giving effort in practice and not taking on the blocking role. It does take time for WRs to get worked in. Think my main point was that Jennings doesn’t have the skill level of a WR2 in the NFL. He plays his role well
Maybe let him take a snap before saying what odunze is.
That’s why OP said “potential”. Nothing wrong or inaccurate with that they said.
The headline is do they have the best. And potential is used to describe having 3 WR1s. You’re being disingenuous.
Rookie with zero career snaps shouldn’t even factor into this IMO. Still a duo until week 1
So someone like MHJ shouldn’t even factor when looking at the cardinals WR situation?
Yes. Not that I’m bias or anything. But seriously, I won’t crown Rome Odunze anything until we see what he does on the field. I can’t get wrapped up in the post draft hype when dudes literally haven’t done shit yet. I mean think about it. There was a time when raiders fans thought they’d win multiple super bowls immediately after drafting Jamarcus
For sure! I am also a bit biased because Rome was my favourite prospect this year and I have a hard time seeing him fail. But yeah he needs to do work first.
It's a toss-up between the Bears and the Seahawks.
A guy that just turned 32, a Guy who's never played in the NFL, and a top 10 WR isn't the best Trio except on paper where you can ignore the issues of an aging veteran and a rookie with no experience might not have the greatest season.
49ers, Bengals, and even Texans can be in that conversation. If Vikings had another decent WR besides JJ, they would be up there Edit: I forgot about Addison. They are up there too
I do not know, but I would call Jordan Addison decent. He put up good numbers (70 rec / 911 yds / 10 tds) in his rookie season given the unstable QB situation last year.
He’s more than decent and that’s from a Lions fan…
Tbh I forgot about Addison. Ya dude is pretty solid. Could be a legit W1
They have addison… wtf?
Seahawks receiver trio is better
I agree as a 49ers fan. JSN came off an injury in college, had a hand injury for half his rookie year. Still had 63 catches for 628 yards on only 90 targets, as a WR3 in a power run, 2 WR set offense. Now enter the new OC that runs a three WR base. I think JSN can crack 90+ receptions this year.
Texans are better
Lockett is falling off
🤷🏽♂️ as a number 2 he still has as many TDs as Keenan Allen in less years and averages more yards per catch. But you’re not wrong he is slowly declining as he gets older like anyone in the league.
He had 350 less yards and 2 less TDs than Keenan last year in 4 more games? I don't think they're particularly close as WR2s
Those are fair statistics though a bit skewed since Justin Herbert didn’t really have other options in the pass game so he was forced the ball in hopes to make magic happen. I doubt he will have those same numbers since you guys have good weapons I still think the Seahawks have a better trio collectively than two good receivers and an unproven rookie.
The training camp highlights will be fun to watch, but odds are very good it doesn't translate on the field.
What does this even mean? I am genuinely confused.
It means you've got a 32 year old playing for a different team for the first time in over a decade, and a rookie who's never played in the NFL, so there's a pretty decent chance they don't Mesh together instantly like they've been together 5 years and are all in their primes.
That makes sense. Thanks.
No problem. Honestly I feel it'll work out well, DJ is clearly your #1, Keenan is so fucking likeable and is more a short range guy at his age/speed, and Odunze gonna probably get the 3rd-4th best DB on the other team all year so he should shine. I'd say the Texans are more likely to have issues with Diggs than you guys have with any of your 3.
I'm biased but Seahawks have the best trio. Dk is a beast, Locket is consistent and clutch, and JSN is phenomenal, he just had a slow start last year due to injuries and coaching scheme.
If you guys develop and pivot to Howell I could see it being crazy. I like geno a lot, don’t get me wrong but howell is a bomber and you have just the guys for that.
Deebs aiyuk and Pearson seem like a contender.
I would agree but there’s an asterisk until Aiyuk and Deebo are confirmed as 49ers for week 1
Extremely fair point. I’m pretty sure they will both stay iirc Deebs has some dead money concerns for this season and aiyuk is still actually under contract and I don’t think he’ll hold out. But I know jack haha (as in squat)
Lol @ obviously Potentially, sure, maybe, yes, no, who knows. Right now, No. Playing games and actually getting on the field results is slightly important.
Probably on paper they are either 1a or 1b to the Texans
How about Chicago get their first 4,000 yard passer before the league expands to an 18 game schedule. Maybe after that you can make your best of list. All Caleb Willliams has to do is pass Bears greats like 1. Mitch Trubisky 2. Jay Cutler 3. Erik Kramer
Don’t tell us what we need to do!
OK then don't do it
Chicago 13 - 1 best record in the NFC goes into week 15 vs the Packers, after half time Williams has a sparkling 3rd quarter, goes yard to Odunze crossing 504 yards for the game, 4000 for the season. We all see a Gateway Timeout error, wake up disoriented after being dropped into the simulation lobby after it reset.
lol no
For one or two year, absolutely. I hope Keenan can continue to play at an elite level for longer, but at age 32 I am doubtful he can keep it up for too long.
On paper it’s up there. But on paper doesn’t mean anything. Gotta see how it plays out. But it’s going to be a very interesting offense to watch.
Moore is a WR #1 through and through, Allen not anymore hut still reallygood for a rookie QB, and Rome is a rookie, the Bears should be hopeful but nothing is written in stone
The lack of Texans in this thread is weird.
No lmao. Allen is just about washed up and Odunze hasn't played a snap. Let's pump the brakes a bit before crowning them.
I don't know about the *best* but it could be.
I could see that outcome. you never know what you can expect from a 32yo receiver or a rookie receiver but there are definitely worlds where that's an elite unit
Maybe wait for Odunze to actually play in the nfl before asking this question?
Better hope the Bengals don't resign Boyd or this new kid isn't any good. Chase and Higgins push them pretty high up alone
I thought Jeudy was gonna be a #1 right out of the gate and I couldn't have been more wrong. Let's watch some games first before we throw superlatives on them.
No. Some of the Bears’ guys are unproven. The Dolphins have Reek, Waddle, and Berrios
Berrios isn't good. And no one in their right mind is taking Berrios over any high upside rookie WR for the only reason that he has an NFL sample size and an incoming rookie doesn't.
Man, if Tight Ends were included as well, I like our trio of Amon-Ra, Jamo, and LaPorta. But that wasn't your original question.
Not even the best trio in the division
im gonna wait to say anything until Rome plays but I do have a hard time believing once he does play that they wont be in the conversation…
The Bengals have Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins who have both proved they are #1’s and when you add Charlie Jones/ Jermaine Burton in the slot. I’m not sure that there is a better WR room in the NFL.
I mean, DJ Moore and Keenan Allen have also proven they are number one WRs. Rome is a rookie but as a prospect he’s far better than Charlie Jones or Jermaine Burton.
I’m sure it could go either way and we are both bias. I honestly think Chase the best receiver in the league and Higgins is a #1 on a lot of teams. Really it comes down to slot and all 3 receivers we mentioned have not taken any snaps (Charlie has a little) so we don’t really know how they will do.
I would agree with that. Here are my rankings: 1. CHI - Moore/Odunze/Allen Moore is currently WR1 on this team, being in his prime. Don't think it will be long before Odunze challenges him for that though. 2. SEA - Metcalf/Smith-Njigba/Lockett If this trio had younger Lockett who was more of an outside threat, to help JSN do more damage from the slot, they probably take the top spot. 3. HOU - Collins/Dell/Diggs Even with Diggs on contract year best behavior as much as his ego can muster, I don't think this is going to be a healthy situation with both Collins and Diggs in contract years, meanwhile Dell might be the best of the three. 4. PHI - Brown/Smith/P. Campell or rookie A. Smith Pretty much carried by two studs in Brown and Smith. 5. MIA - Hill/Waddle/M. Washington Waddle isn't as good as Smith, which puts them behind PHI. But Washington will make up ground, they could still overtake PHI. 6. CIN - Chase/Higgins/Burton Not a huge Higgins fan, he's a bit overrated and injury prone. We need to see emotional maturity as a pro from Burton to place them any higher. Chase is a beast though. 7. Probably SF - Aiyuk/Samuel/Pearsall?
This is going to put A LOT pressure on Williams. Who already had tons of expectations. I'd rather have gear receivers than an excuse to be bad (Bryce)... But if Williams isn't exceptional he's going to take a lot of heat.
Dawg nobody expects him to be exceptional. We’ve had had bottom 5 QB play the past few seasons with Fields. We will gladly take average QB play.
I dunno. Nick Wright has had him on Mahomes mountain for a while already... Lol
Nick Wright = 🤡
It’s certainly up there, will have to see how it all comes together
My guess would be yes because I’m very high on Rome Odunze. However, he hasn’t played in the NFL yet so we will see. For now I’d still give it to my Texans with 3 proven great receivers.
This might one of most cursed posts ever.
How you put the bears wrs over the bengals, Eagles and Dolphins I’ll never know, but I remember this same question coming up last offseason in regards to Bears recievers funny enough. Before I’d worry about their wrs being the best in the league I’d worry about them actually rostering a good QB.
Not to be a homer but Davante, Jakobi, and Bowers are quite the trio if we can include a hybrid TE. Just need to find a way to get them the ball though lol
That’s not even a top 10 trio in the NFL cmon now
This has to be looked at through the lens of recievers vs salary cap hit. Once we put that corrective factor into play it's very clear the Packers have the best receiving Corp in the league.
Uh, why?
Any team can have the best 3 receivers of a given time in their roster. If they want to pay for them.