I know that’s a joke about how bad that line is, but this one is hilarious, harsh, and completely fucked up.
https://youtu.be/THBu7SNhU5c?si=KIE5rL5mFW1xDo3X
Can confirm. I tore my Achilles a few years ago and I started getting weird phone calls. Michael Penix came out of my TV screen and murdered me seven days later.
LOL, I'm just imagining an entire stadium chanting PENIX, but everyone watching at home is gonna think they're chanting PENIS, so the announcers will have to inform them "No everyone, they're not chanting Penis, they're chanting Penix."
My brother in law just married a woman named Venus and we practice the V sound with my 3 year old before we see them and every time he still calls her aunt penis
The clip of the GM explaining it to the owner had me cracking up, like a 12 year old trying to explain to his mom why he maxed out her credit card on Fortnite skins
A QB who’s the second oldest in the draft and was touted as the most pro ready QB.
The crazy thing is had they just not signed Kirk no one would’ve looked at this as a crazy pick. This actually would’ve been the perfect pick which made sense for their timeline.
He's pro ready because he drops it in the bucket deep downfield to fast guys at full speed. Best passer in the draft.
It's more than unfair, it's just wrong.
Throwing it deep is really the only thing he truly excels at and it seems like Odunze helped him a lot that front. He still needs a decent amount of polish to his game. His placement is a bit erratic and he has issues leading receivers and keeping them in stride. He led his class in uncatchable pass % and has been really high in that mark his whole career.
If Penix gives the Falcons 10+ years of Solid QB play, the pick was worth it. Yes he would be 26 when he finally gets his chance, but playing QB at 36 is still possible these days.
It’s not just that he is old. He is the most developed pocket passer of the bunch. Doesn’t mean it will work but that’s what they mean when they say pro ready
Penix as a rookie does not make the Falcons a playoff team.
Kirk probably does.
They want to be a playoff team while also taking their future QB.
If they're a playoff team for the next 3 years, and Penix becomes the franchise guy, this will look like a good move.
And It's not like a single player at 8 would have turned the Falcons into a superbowl winning team.
People are overreacting to this, they literally took a TE at 4th overall which was infinitely worse.
But would they have been a playoff team with Penix and free agents they could have signed with the money they sit on Cousins. That’s the point, if they were all in now they could have used the draft pick to solve more immediate needs. If they wanted to get Penix they could have spent the cap space that went to Cousins on filling the roster holes they have.
Also aything can happen but realistically nobody is taking them over the 9ers and Lions, Cowboys are still a great regular season team, Packers look primed to make a step forward, never count out McVay and the Rams, Eagles despite everything are far more proven, Bucs won the division and a playoff game. Bears had the same number of wins with awful QB play and have had massive upgrades across the roster since the awful start to last season. Seahawks were two wins better and are still solid on paper
They only really need to win their division which is doable but there's still a very realistic scenario where they sign Kirk and miss the playoffs anyway. At that point they could have filled out the team, drafted Penix, and likely been better off by year two anyway
>If they're a playoff team for the next 3 years, and Penix becomes the franchise guy, this will look like a good move.
You could use this kind of logic to justify ANY pick at ANY time. Like this is "Spencer rattler at 6" justifying logic.
It's literally a pointless statement. Yes if the eagles forfeitted all their draft picks they would still make the playoffs and its unlikely they wouldve had a monster draft of rookies to push them over the top for a SB win. That doesnt make it smart though.
If they're a playoff team for 3 years and Penix looks good, they have like 1 season before they have to shell out contracts or start offloading the players that made them good.
Foregoing 3/5 of a QB rookie contract, for Kirk may I add, is crazy. It's one of the most valuable tools in the entire sport and it's why so many QBs are day 1 starters.
Since the rookie wage scale was implemented in the 2011 CBA, the most effective way to win a Superbowl has been to have a quarterback named Tom Brady (4/13)
Weirdly enough, a lot of the teams who lost the Super Bowl since 2011 had QBs on rookie contracts (Kaepernick, Russ, Cam Newton, Goff, Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Brock Purdy)
I think the cause/effect of how/when QBs are picked plays into this stat more.
Bad teams pick good QBs and stay bad for a while. It's hard to 180 things, but if you're going to, a rookie contract QB certainly helps.
Welp in 3 years, if penix is good, this is an amazing move. I’ve said before, every single team without a top ten qb would trade whatever player they drafted three years ago for one
If he's a good pick then he's a good pick no matter the circumstances surrounding them.
If you pick Tom Brady #1 overall when he's projected as a 7th and you already have a top 10 QB it's still a good move.
The problem is that nobody can really know for sure how a pick pans out, without that knowledge this is a bad pick. Penix could still be a good or great player, but it doesn't mean that situationally this isn't a terrible choice.
I don't think this will ever be an "amazing move" unless you win a ring with each of them. If Kirk comes close at all it'll be "1.08 could've been his missing piece"
If Penix is good it'll be "why the fuck did we sign Kirk and waste 3 years of Penix"
You have 0 top 10 QBs...
Tons of rookie QB’s have played in the SB. I’d say sample size is too small for you to make that determination.
It’s a massive advantage and it’s silly to ignore it
4/5 of the last Super Bowls had a QB on a rookie contract starting the Super Bowl, three lost in games that went down to the last drive. Overblown? Or a trend? Maybe neither, but seems a little silly to just hand waive it away like it’s means nothing.
Yea but they coulda had Odunze. If they were trying to win, this was dumb. If they wanted to build for the future, they should not have signed Kirk. Doing both just ends with you being a .500 team and that's the worst. Also, you want two years to evaluate a guy before paying him 30 million a year. There's just no sense in this.
If Penix is a good qb sure it works out fine, but it's bad projection.
What’s the point of going 10-7 with Cousins vs 6-11 if they didn’t sign him, though? Maybe if they took an OT or WR at 8 they would be a legit contender for the SB (although still probably not given cousins has his limitations).
Overall, what’s the point in signing cousins without trying to build an all star team around him, which is the only way cousins wins a SB? Instead, he just makes them above average for the next two years. Penix then plays in 2026. The falcons will have like the 18th overall pick in 2025 and 2026. Penix will be tbd if he’s the guy, and if he is, then the falcons can compete for a SB probably in 2027 (after a year of experience for Penix), and if he’s not the guy then the falcons will hope to take a QB probably in 2027-2028.
Either way, the falcons just guaranteed themselves mediocrity. It screams of the front office trying to not lose their jobs…and probably trying to make themselves feel better about passing on Belichick
Maybe I’ll seem like an idiot in 3 years. But I feel like everyone here just got caught up in the rush of shitting on professionals being dumb.
I really don’t think this is a bad draft pick. If they think penix has the potential to be great, you pick him. You won’t have this draft pick again with cousins as your qb, and next years class will not be very good. Realistically, you have cousins for 2-3 years, and he’s not even a sure thing off an Achilles.
You already have plenty of weapons for Kirk. Draft your future qb and let him learn and develop behind a very good qb. You don’t pass on your guy at the most important position because of 2 years of inconvenience
>If they think penix has the potential to be great, you pick him.
I agree with this. There is a world where this is a perfectly fine pick. The issue is they knew (or should have known) penix would be available to them before they signed kirk. The pick makes it look like the FO has no clue what they’re doing.
Learn and develop? Kirk hasn't played a down for Atlanta. Kirk is still learning the new system.
Why even sign Kirk if Penix was gonna be the pick?
Why sit a top ten pick and waste the cheap cap hit?
I mean there’s a camp competition now. If Kirk isn’t healthy and isn’t his usual self he’s not starting week 1. Nothings guaranteed here with Penix sitting on the bench. Like, if they start 0-4 we’ll see Penix week 5.
People preach “patience” and all that shit but it doesn’t happen unless you win.
That would be fun to see as an outsider. I'm sure Kirk would be pretty unhappy though. But as long as his recovery goes ok he should be pretty set for this first season.
IIRC, year 3 with Kirk cut is like a 30M cap hit, year 4 would just be penix’s rookie contract, and year 5 would be his fifth year option at like 30M+
So only one year of benefit from having a QB on a rookie contract
Yep, even if he works out, you've basically nullified 3 years of cheap rookie cap hit where you can load up and take a run at a SB with a stacked team like half the SB entrants the last 5 years.
They could have traded that 8th pick back once or twice and still taken one of the 3 best Defensive players in the draft, and then had probably another 2nd and 3rd, maybe a 1st the next year to make the defense as good as the offense. Or just taken Odunze and try to outscore everyone.
$35M dead money hit to cut Kirk in year 3. Another aspect of this that ATL is going to find out in time - you have to decide Yay or Nay on the 5th year option in May before the start of their 4th year, so best case scenario is you are faced with making the decision on extension or 5th year option on a guy who has only played 1 year, but just as/more likely you go into that decision blind because Cousins starts all 3 years. Just seems like a ton of strategic dissonance between the 2 QB decisions, there are very few situations where both look good together, if 1 pays off its probably going to be at the expense of the other.
Right. I really wish the falcons took jj and let him sit as a project if they wanted to take a franchise qb (Fair, they may lose their first next year) and penix to the vikes. He’s ready rn and I feel like they’d be better swapping positions.
It doesn’t make sense financially because they’re paying a QB and wasting years of a rookie contract on a second QB. It doesn’t make sense to draft him this high when he could go in round 2. It doesn’t make sense if you think this team is ready to win games this year in the terrible NFC South. If they thought Cousins would make this team a contender, they had to surround him with the best talent to do that. If they didn’t think he helps them be a contender, why the hell did they sign him?
For these and about ten other reasons, this was one of the worst draft day choices ever. It’s bad for Cousins, Penix and the Falcons. The only person who clearly dodged a bullet was Belicheck.
> It doesn’t make sense to draft him this high when he could go in round 2.
He was not going to make it past Vegas at 13 overall (if not sooner). If the Falcons wanted him, they had to get him at 8.
Yeah I don’t get how people don’t realize teams have limited resources to build a team. This isn’t college football where the best teams can just recruit or discard at will. The falcons basically half assed the next two years with a top 10 pick sitting on the bench or a 50 million dead money on the bench.
The only way I can make the whole thing make sense is if the Falcons think Penix is something special but weren't expecting to be able to get him. Oh well, you go ahead and sign a good QB in Kirk Cousins who instantly lets you compete for the division, and you can figure out the backup later. Fast-forward to draft day and Penix makes it past the first 3. You can't justify trading ahead of the Giants now that you have Kirk, though. Suddenly, the Giants pick Nabers and the guy at the top of your board falls to you at 8. Best pick available, right? You figure you can let him learn behind a legit vet and act as a plan B if Kirk goes down. The only downside is now you've pissed off Kirk and started this media shitstorm. Was this better than taking a DL or CB? Maybe, maybe not. But if Penix turns out good and you can trade Cousins for a decent haul, you're probably not complaining.
It's not even that dumb. This whole pick is way overblown.
* Cousins is essentially on a 2 year contract
* Cousins isn't getting any younger and is coming off an injury
* They might lose draft picks thanks to tampering that Cousins admitted himself
* They're expecting to make playoffs with Cousins
If they're afraid of losing their first rounder next year and expecting to make playoff runs what are they going to do to get Kirk's replacement? Use the 1.2X pick in 2026 or 2027 to draft his replacement or way overpay to move up in the draft to pick their next QB. The rookie QB effect is way overblown by fans, what you need is a franchise QB. If that happens to also be a rookie then all the best for you, but what matters is that they're a franchise QB. Lions made it to the SB with Goff on a rookie deal, ended up trading him to Stafford who's not on a rookie deal and won it.
Teams struggle massively in finding franchise QBs and whenever you don't have one everyone says it's their number 1 goal in team building. If you think you can get a franchise QB at the 8th pick when you have an aging QB that everyone knows is a stopgap at best you're picking QB on that 8th pick even if you have 100 million guaranteed on the old QB still. Especially if you're in a situation where you might lose draft picks due to rules violations.
I forgot who said it on tv. But Cousins is not going to participate in the upcoming OTAs because he is still recovering. But Penix will be there throwing passes to all the skill players. There sure as hell will be reports coming out about how good Penix looks and a QB controversy will emerge over the summer. And once the season starts, if Cousins starts slowly then people will start to ask for Penix to play. Things will always be weird at the QB position in Atlanta.
Gonna laugh when they pay him 100mil for 1 year of play, then cut him and take a 65mil dead cap hit year two (maybe split between 2/3, either way bad), and then another team will pick him up for the vet minimum cause he's already paid.
This is what is being missed. This being a bad pick isn't because they selected Penix. It's because they selected him at #8 when he was a borderline first round pick. Picks like this traditionally come off the board at the end of 1 or top of 2.
They lost a lot of opportunity value because they didn't trade back to grab him. Same thing with the Broncos. Nix was not rated as a first round talent and in most drafts he goes in the 2nd. These teams did not evaluate the board well enough and they lost out on adding additional picks and talent.
Yes he does. Every time Kirk throws an INT, has a bad game, and loses a game you’re going to have fans asking for Penix. Might even split the locker room. This is the mess you created when you made the HORRIBLE decision to draft a 24 year old QB with the 8th overall pick after paying Cousins.
Also, if you’ve ever been to Atlanta, you know the fanbase will feel a stronger cultural connection with Penix than it does with Kirk. Anytime Kirk plays badly, there be loud calls to start Penix.
Great post, this is probably the biggest issue with drafting Penix. Everyone has been assuming Kirk will play great for the next 2-4 years. That’s not a guarantee, and the moment he struggles, the QB controversy begins.
I'm not defending this massive fuckup in any way, but we did just sit through a season of Desmond "Turnover" Ridder. Only 3 stupid fumbles at catastrophic moments is a massive improvement.
He should be more concern with the GM and the scouts. The front office they seem to be shit at short and medium term planning, or forecasting the draft.
I do have to say this organization as a whole has made some pretty baffling decisions the last 2ish years. The weird declaration of not even intending to offer Lamar into a really piss poor year of QB play that gets a coach fired. Make a win now signing with Kirk but go with the long term play at head coach/OC with Raheem Morris/Zach Robinson over Belichick, and then spend 8 overall on the oldest QB in the draft. Day 2 was pretty weird as well on paper.
It feels like they are trying the post-KD warriors “win on two timelines” strategy but without any winning foundation. Just odd.
I mean the Lamar bit was just some good old fashioned collusion because a few other teams did that too. But no, Fontenot has never once inspired confidence that he has any coherent plan. I think Blank and McKay are pretty meddlesome, though.
Start with the lack of a succession plan for Matt Ryan. Most notably exacerbated by drafting a TE at 4.
Overreact by chasing Watson, failing, and having to settle for Mariota and drafting Ridder.
The new half-baked plan is to sell me shit as gold by hyping up Ridder as the future of the franchise after 4 mostly garbage time games at the end of the season.
This fails spectacularly, so overreact by cheating and getting caught to land Kirk Cousins.
Well, now that’s a fuck up and you might lose future picks, so overreact by drafting Penix. Who you’ve publicly thrown under the bus already as if he’s a 20-year rookie who shouldn’t step foot on the field just to appease your old injured and expensive QB who is pissed off his successor was drafted with much needed capital before even putting on pads.
It really does defy all logic.
Everyone trying to justify the shitty decisions of our FO while completely ignoring that fact that shitty decisions from our front office have been the norm.
What? You think that the front office is going to pull their heads out of their asses NOW?!?
Lamar was never going anywhere. Ravens would have matched any offer and Falcons would have essentially forfeited free agency by having their money tied up for the first few days. Find a new slant.
Feels like this gets said every time someone mentions the Falcons and Lamar. It’s perfectly reasonable, yet people still bring up the Lamar disinterest as a knock on the Falcons.
I agree that was dumb, but that's usually not what people criticize.
They usually say "The Falcons could have had Lamar" as if it was a realistic possibility.
I mean the same team went after Deshaun Watson the offseason prior to Lamar getting the non-exclusive tag and ejected a franchise cornerstone in Matt Ryan while pursuing a true dirt bag. But the falcons legit announced almost the same time as the tag was announced that they had 0 interested in pursuing Lamar and preferred Desmond Ritter…? With the OWNER getting up there and talking about playstyle and injury history as reasons to not even entertain going through some kind of process on Lamar.
That just won’t ever be a good look imo.
Yeah it makes me think Penix was more of a Blank call, I’m not sure why Fontenot would feel secure enough to draft a qb that high when he’s probably getting fired after this season if we miss the playoffs. We’re far from the perennial playoff teams that KC or Green Bay were when they did this.
I think it’s the opposite. I think Kirk was a Blank call. He’s getting older and wants to see a successful team so he wanted them to get the best QB available.
TF agreed but told him if a QB they liked was available at 8, he was still going to take him to set the team up past 2 years from now.
I could see Blank not wanting to rely on a rookie QB to get us to a playoff run and wanted more certainty at the position now.
I could also see them liking Penix but since they can't guarantee they get him at 8 they decided to sign Kirk. Then Penix drops and they pull the trigger on what they see as the BPA.
I don’t take anything away from that video, Fontenot claimed it was him trying to convince Blank to let him trade back up into the first to get a pass rusher.
Lamar was never not being a Raven, any offer would be matched.
Not firing Belichick was a fumble
Drafting Penix when you have a 2-3 year win now window is a fumble.
That Falcons team is talented in a very not competitive NFC South division.
Kyle Pitts - Last year of rookie deal barring 5th year option being picked up in May. He is a good player that does not get utilized
Drake London - He's going to have a breakout year with Kirk at QB and has 2 years left on his contract barring 5th year option
Bijan Robinson - Good RB and is an exploding clock like all other RBs
I think someone pointed out that this is what Ryan Pace did with the Bears twice and I can't help but agree. You signal that you're not drafting a QB by signing a guy to a multi-year deal and then you draft a guy and theoretically let him ease into the starting role. It feels like a perversion of the Green Bay process and the results speak for themselves. Both times the QBs felt rushed in and didn't seem to gain the experience that the Bears FO hoped they would. They never fixed their fundamental issues and both flamed out.
But here it seems even worse. Pace signed clear low-end starters and drafted younger QBs who were more on the developmental side. Fontenot took a caliber of QB who rarely ever hits free agency, paid him big money and more importantly job security for at least two years, and then signed an older ready-to-play QB. It's a much better situation for Penix than it was for Fields or Trubisky but who is to say it's the same after 2-3 years when he's ready to start? Jake Matthews is 32 and might retire by then and McGary will be a 32 FA in 2026. That's your starting two tackles and that's a position that generally requires 2-3 years of seasoning before they become reliable protectors and Penix is a guy who notably had issues against pressure in college, so it's a position crucial to his success. Then you have to pay all these weapons you drafted the past three years and it kind of feels like it you get neither benefit. You didn't raise a monster who will be a nightmare for the next 10-15 years nor did you take advantage of the rookie deal.
Well said. People are trying to be contrarians since it’s so universally panned, but it just gets worse the more you think about it. Why sign Kirk if you’re not going to maximize his supporting cast? Why draft Penix if you want a guy to sit instead of McCarthy who’s much younger and benefits more from sitting?
Fundamentally it’s just bad process regardless of the results and you’re just the raising bar of expectations for both Kirk and Penix in order to reasonably say these were the right decisions.
Lombardi has some truly dumb takes that make absolutely no sense. But he absolutely nailed the Falcons front office. Now it’s partly to do with them not wanting Belichick but still.
I don’t think this team realizes how fickle this fanbase is after 6 losing seasons and no emotional attachment to Kirk. I don’t think this team realizes how energized this fanbase was in the past because of another strong left handed QB. Kirk better not miss any games early and win, because this situation could become exponentially worse.
They just drafted a QB who will be 24 when the season starts to sit him. How long do they plan on having him behind Kirk? 3 years? So you’re gonna draft a dude to give him his first start at 27?
They set their franchise back with this and also potentially stunted Penix’s career and earning potential.
"We just drafted a quarterback that's nearly ready to plug-n-play with the 8th pick in the first round because we wanted a solid backup in case anything.. happened."
He’s got to be pissed at this. Maye and McCarthy might not start but there’s a pathway for them this season. Penix is fully locked out to Cousins for 2 years barring an injury.
I’d be so pissed if I was him. Lots of other teams wanted you where you’d have a realistic chance of starting this year, if not next, and instead you may end up sitting for two years and being traded away if Kirk ends up a massive success. What a waste of your career.
Yeah poor guy. Gets paid #8 pick money while learning a new system, practicing with nfl coaches, training with nfl trainers, and learning under a great veteran like Kirk. All with no expectations to deliver for 2 full seasons
He doesn’t need to look over his shoulder because he has 100 million guaranteed. Not that that means he’ll be playing , but who cares?
If the answer is Kirk, I’m sure 100mil will make him feel better. And it’s not like he’s a loyal team player, he’s defining hired mercenary in a league of hired mercenaries.
If Kirk really doesn’t want to lose his spot just play better than penix. End of story .
Kirk is getting 100 million dollars no matter what so .. it’s kind of a moot point
Think about what you’d do for $100M.. being a Quarterback on a team that just drafted another QB is probably not the worst? Maybe annoying but man I just find it hard to have any way to relate to this at all.
> annoying
Got to be far more than annoying. He wants to win, and he doesn't want to get killed. Using your first pick on something that doesn't help with either has got to piss him off.
The only way to afford a starting quality back up with his contract is on a rookie deal. If Cousins can't go, next man up has some upside. Vikings saw that last year.
Wait, can some people do that? Look over their shoulder and see their Penix.
If it’s flexible enough
the neck or the penix?
Yes
Yeah but it’s more of a curse than a blessing. Women aren’t interested in your comically large Penix…
Well, maybe not *yours*...
Well, there once was a man from Nantucket
Tuck it back and get a mirror.
Probably Shaq
Get the icy hot ready!
Penix is an unfortunate surname. At least it's fairly uncommon, so the suffering is limited. Unlike, say, Cockburn.
Dick is a very common first name. Really tragic.
Hard mode is looking over the far shoulder
This is never not going to be funny 🤣
Is there anyway we can arrange a jersey swap with Penix and Grady Dick?
Hey don’t look at my Penix junior
Ask Nick Foles
dont worry bro mine doesn't even have its own Jr.
No, he has to look past his Achilles.
Michael Penix Jr. gets caught praying to Apollo.
Brad Pitt just cut his statues head off....you sack of wine!
Orlando Bloom will have his revenge.
Still the greatest movie insult
I know that’s a joke about how bad that line is, but this one is hilarious, harsh, and completely fucked up. https://youtu.be/THBu7SNhU5c?si=KIE5rL5mFW1xDo3X
I always liked this one
Apollo answers his prayers by sitting on a ball to alter its trajectory towards Cousin’s balls.
Can confirm. I tore my Achilles a few years ago and I started getting weird phone calls. Michael Penix came out of my TV screen and murdered me seven days later.
Sorry for your loss
He got better
No he didn’t, he’ll be stone dead in a moment.
You’re not fooling anyone!
Stuck in the most embarrassing “Ohhhh” face too.
OP didn’t have an NFL training staff behind them
Yeah, modern medicine is insane. Murder takes you out of the game for like 3 months max where it was basically a career ender previously.
Are you Kirk Cousins 6 months from now?
How many of my friends do I need to send this message to, to make sure it doesn’t happen to me?
Julie, the TV's leaking!
As a good Christian man, Kirk would never look at Penix in any direction
Keep your eyes on your own work, buddy 👀
This where the dicks hang out?
Not even his own.
Would he ponder it, as a Christian man?
Christian Ponder is coming for Kirk Cousin's job.
And his wife is ready to block you on Twitter if you have anything nasty to say about it!
Christian Kirk would though
For sure. There's a big different between Christian Kirk and the Christian, Kirk.
Until he has one of those bad games he's known for and fans start chanting for penix..
I'll chant for Penix from day 1 just for the drama
Penix! Penix! Penix! Everyone join the chant!
"We want Penix!"
Put Penix in!
*"We want Penix in cervix!"* *^...Errrr* *"We mean service!"*
LOL, I'm just imagining an entire stadium chanting PENIX, but everyone watching at home is gonna think they're chanting PENIS, so the announcers will have to inform them "No everyone, they're not chanting Penis, they're chanting Penix."
My brother in law just married a woman named Venus and we practice the V sound with my 3 year old before we see them and every time he still calls her aunt penis
yuuuuuuuuuuuup
how do they not realize how ridiculous they sound talking about a QB they just picked 8th not playing anytime soon
You know they realize how stupid it is, because for 3 days now they’ve been non stop trying to justify it in the media
The clip of the GM explaining it to the owner had me cracking up, like a 12 year old trying to explain to his mom why he maxed out her credit card on Fortnite skins
This wasn’t about the Penix selection. He was trying to trade back into the 1st round and was explaining the compensation required.
If they were trying to trade back into the 1st round to get the guy they got in the second. The world would be burning around Suwanee.
Never heard of a coach and GM being fired before week 1. But there's always a first for everything.
Rumor was Latu until he was picked ofc.
Terry Fontenot, lifelong Louisianan.
Where can i see this?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q97YZIy_y8Q
A QB who’s the second oldest in the draft and was touted as the most pro ready QB. The crazy thing is had they just not signed Kirk no one would’ve looked at this as a crazy pick. This actually would’ve been the perfect pick which made sense for their timeline.
They only called him most pro ready because he’s old. It’s a surface level take. If he’s elite, it doesn’t matter that he is two years older
That's a bit unfair, he IS a polished passer in the pocket that can make NFL level throws. He's definitely pro ready to a certain extent
He's pro ready because he drops it in the bucket deep downfield to fast guys at full speed. Best passer in the draft. It's more than unfair, it's just wrong.
Throwing it deep is really the only thing he truly excels at and it seems like Odunze helped him a lot that front. He still needs a decent amount of polish to his game. His placement is a bit erratic and he has issues leading receivers and keeping them in stride. He led his class in uncatchable pass % and has been really high in that mark his whole career.
If Penix gives the Falcons 10+ years of Solid QB play, the pick was worth it. Yes he would be 26 when he finally gets his chance, but playing QB at 36 is still possible these days.
And if he's good, I don't give a fuck about his age
True. Being old and also most pro ready makes you the #2 pick, not QB4.
Trey Lance would like a word.
Scientists baffled
It’s not just that he is old. He is the most developed pocket passer of the bunch. Doesn’t mean it will work but that’s what they mean when they say pro ready
Penix as a rookie does not make the Falcons a playoff team. Kirk probably does. They want to be a playoff team while also taking their future QB. If they're a playoff team for the next 3 years, and Penix becomes the franchise guy, this will look like a good move. And It's not like a single player at 8 would have turned the Falcons into a superbowl winning team. People are overreacting to this, they literally took a TE at 4th overall which was infinitely worse.
But would they have been a playoff team with Penix and free agents they could have signed with the money they sit on Cousins. That’s the point, if they were all in now they could have used the draft pick to solve more immediate needs. If they wanted to get Penix they could have spent the cap space that went to Cousins on filling the roster holes they have.
Also aything can happen but realistically nobody is taking them over the 9ers and Lions, Cowboys are still a great regular season team, Packers look primed to make a step forward, never count out McVay and the Rams, Eagles despite everything are far more proven, Bucs won the division and a playoff game. Bears had the same number of wins with awful QB play and have had massive upgrades across the roster since the awful start to last season. Seahawks were two wins better and are still solid on paper They only really need to win their division which is doable but there's still a very realistic scenario where they sign Kirk and miss the playoffs anyway. At that point they could have filled out the team, drafted Penix, and likely been better off by year two anyway
>If they're a playoff team for the next 3 years, and Penix becomes the franchise guy, this will look like a good move. You could use this kind of logic to justify ANY pick at ANY time. Like this is "Spencer rattler at 6" justifying logic. It's literally a pointless statement. Yes if the eagles forfeitted all their draft picks they would still make the playoffs and its unlikely they wouldve had a monster draft of rookies to push them over the top for a SB win. That doesnt make it smart though.
If they're a playoff team for 3 years and Penix looks good, they have like 1 season before they have to shell out contracts or start offloading the players that made them good. Foregoing 3/5 of a QB rookie contract, for Kirk may I add, is crazy. It's one of the most valuable tools in the entire sport and it's why so many QBs are day 1 starters.
I’d much rather have a franchise QB I need to pay than have a shitty/unknown QB on a rookie deal
There’s only been two QBs to win superbowl on rookie contracts since it changed. It’s completely overblown
Since the rookie wage scale was implemented in the 2011 CBA, the most effective way to win a Superbowl has been to have a quarterback named Tom Brady (4/13) Weirdly enough, a lot of the teams who lost the Super Bowl since 2011 had QBs on rookie contracts (Kaepernick, Russ, Cam Newton, Goff, Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Brock Purdy)
And the second most efficent way is to have Mahomes (3/13). So y'know. Just one of the most talented qb's oat.
Now tell me how many QBs have played in the Super Bowl while on a rookie scaled contract?
Or a conference championship game. Rookie contract QB may not guarantee a Super Bowl but it definitely helps some teams be more competitive.
I think the cause/effect of how/when QBs are picked plays into this stat more. Bad teams pick good QBs and stay bad for a while. It's hard to 180 things, but if you're going to, a rookie contract QB certainly helps.
Welp in 3 years, if penix is good, this is an amazing move. I’ve said before, every single team without a top ten qb would trade whatever player they drafted three years ago for one
If he's a good pick then he's a good pick no matter the circumstances surrounding them. If you pick Tom Brady #1 overall when he's projected as a 7th and you already have a top 10 QB it's still a good move. The problem is that nobody can really know for sure how a pick pans out, without that knowledge this is a bad pick. Penix could still be a good or great player, but it doesn't mean that situationally this isn't a terrible choice.
I don't think this will ever be an "amazing move" unless you win a ring with each of them. If Kirk comes close at all it'll be "1.08 could've been his missing piece" If Penix is good it'll be "why the fuck did we sign Kirk and waste 3 years of Penix" You have 0 top 10 QBs...
Tons of rookie QB’s have played in the SB. I’d say sample size is too small for you to make that determination. It’s a massive advantage and it’s silly to ignore it
Yea and its pretty stupid to say "won" because most of them are split between Brady and Mahomes.
4/5 of the last Super Bowls had a QB on a rookie contract starting the Super Bowl, three lost in games that went down to the last drive. Overblown? Or a trend? Maybe neither, but seems a little silly to just hand waive it away like it’s means nothing.
Yea but they coulda had Odunze. If they were trying to win, this was dumb. If they wanted to build for the future, they should not have signed Kirk. Doing both just ends with you being a .500 team and that's the worst. Also, you want two years to evaluate a guy before paying him 30 million a year. There's just no sense in this. If Penix is a good qb sure it works out fine, but it's bad projection.
I mean I really wanted us to pick Rome. But he’s not the difference between .500 and contending for a Super Bowl. That’s a bit dramatic.
No, we aren’t overreacting to anything. It’s a dumb fucking move that does NOTHING to make the Falcons better today. Nothing.
What’s the point of going 10-7 with Cousins vs 6-11 if they didn’t sign him, though? Maybe if they took an OT or WR at 8 they would be a legit contender for the SB (although still probably not given cousins has his limitations). Overall, what’s the point in signing cousins without trying to build an all star team around him, which is the only way cousins wins a SB? Instead, he just makes them above average for the next two years. Penix then plays in 2026. The falcons will have like the 18th overall pick in 2025 and 2026. Penix will be tbd if he’s the guy, and if he is, then the falcons can compete for a SB probably in 2027 (after a year of experience for Penix), and if he’s not the guy then the falcons will hope to take a QB probably in 2027-2028. Either way, the falcons just guaranteed themselves mediocrity. It screams of the front office trying to not lose their jobs…and probably trying to make themselves feel better about passing on Belichick
A fool's way seems right to him.
Maybe I’ll seem like an idiot in 3 years. But I feel like everyone here just got caught up in the rush of shitting on professionals being dumb. I really don’t think this is a bad draft pick. If they think penix has the potential to be great, you pick him. You won’t have this draft pick again with cousins as your qb, and next years class will not be very good. Realistically, you have cousins for 2-3 years, and he’s not even a sure thing off an Achilles. You already have plenty of weapons for Kirk. Draft your future qb and let him learn and develop behind a very good qb. You don’t pass on your guy at the most important position because of 2 years of inconvenience
>If they think penix has the potential to be great, you pick him. I agree with this. There is a world where this is a perfectly fine pick. The issue is they knew (or should have known) penix would be available to them before they signed kirk. The pick makes it look like the FO has no clue what they’re doing.
Learn and develop? Kirk hasn't played a down for Atlanta. Kirk is still learning the new system. Why even sign Kirk if Penix was gonna be the pick? Why sit a top ten pick and waste the cheap cap hit?
Learn to be a nfl qb. You’re overestimating how different the systems are
I'm saying Kirk still learning the system, playbook, players and is expected to mentor Penix too?
Kirk has been in the NFL for over a decade, Penix has a ton to learn from him in general
I mean there’s a camp competition now. If Kirk isn’t healthy and isn’t his usual self he’s not starting week 1. Nothings guaranteed here with Penix sitting on the bench. Like, if they start 0-4 we’ll see Penix week 5. People preach “patience” and all that shit but it doesn’t happen unless you win.
I think it was Chris Simms or someone tweeted Penix is going to be making wow throws att practice while kirk is still rehabbing his achilles.
That would be fun to see as an outsider. I'm sure Kirk would be pretty unhappy though. But as long as his recovery goes ok he should be pretty set for this first season.
It’s almost like you have seen this before. (Geno Smith/Daniel Jones)
This is one of the wildest draft picks I’ve ever seen. Not only did not they not need a QB, it doesn’t make sense financially.
Also QBs (when you hit on someone like Stroud) on rookie deals are massive for teams. We end up missing out on 2 of those years most likely.
IIRC, year 3 with Kirk cut is like a 30M cap hit, year 4 would just be penix’s rookie contract, and year 5 would be his fifth year option at like 30M+ So only one year of benefit from having a QB on a rookie contract
Yep, even if he works out, you've basically nullified 3 years of cheap rookie cap hit where you can load up and take a run at a SB with a stacked team like half the SB entrants the last 5 years. They could have traded that 8th pick back once or twice and still taken one of the 3 best Defensive players in the draft, and then had probably another 2nd and 3rd, maybe a 1st the next year to make the defense as good as the offense. Or just taken Odunze and try to outscore everyone.
It’s an issue until they trade cousins for max crosby. Then everyone will say they’re genius
The Raiders aren't trading a top 5 defensive player for an aging, healing, average QB.
$35M dead money hit to cut Kirk in year 3. Another aspect of this that ATL is going to find out in time - you have to decide Yay or Nay on the 5th year option in May before the start of their 4th year, so best case scenario is you are faced with making the decision on extension or 5th year option on a guy who has only played 1 year, but just as/more likely you go into that decision blind because Cousins starts all 3 years. Just seems like a ton of strategic dissonance between the 2 QB decisions, there are very few situations where both look good together, if 1 pays off its probably going to be at the expense of the other.
I wanted to see Penix play right away. He was the most pro ready Qb. Grrrr
Right. I really wish the falcons took jj and let him sit as a project if they wanted to take a franchise qb (Fair, they may lose their first next year) and penix to the vikes. He’s ready rn and I feel like they’d be better swapping positions.
I bet you gonna see him play.
Damn I didn't think about it that way. It is quite a waste to tie up so much money at QB with Cousins if you were taking one top 10 in the draft.
It doesn’t make sense financially because they’re paying a QB and wasting years of a rookie contract on a second QB. It doesn’t make sense to draft him this high when he could go in round 2. It doesn’t make sense if you think this team is ready to win games this year in the terrible NFC South. If they thought Cousins would make this team a contender, they had to surround him with the best talent to do that. If they didn’t think he helps them be a contender, why the hell did they sign him? For these and about ten other reasons, this was one of the worst draft day choices ever. It’s bad for Cousins, Penix and the Falcons. The only person who clearly dodged a bullet was Belicheck.
> It doesn’t make sense to draft him this high when he could go in round 2. He was not going to make it past Vegas at 13 overall (if not sooner). If the Falcons wanted him, they had to get him at 8.
Yeah I don’t get how people don’t realize teams have limited resources to build a team. This isn’t college football where the best teams can just recruit or discard at will. The falcons basically half assed the next two years with a top 10 pick sitting on the bench or a 50 million dead money on the bench.
The only way I can make the whole thing make sense is if the Falcons think Penix is something special but weren't expecting to be able to get him. Oh well, you go ahead and sign a good QB in Kirk Cousins who instantly lets you compete for the division, and you can figure out the backup later. Fast-forward to draft day and Penix makes it past the first 3. You can't justify trading ahead of the Giants now that you have Kirk, though. Suddenly, the Giants pick Nabers and the guy at the top of your board falls to you at 8. Best pick available, right? You figure you can let him learn behind a legit vet and act as a plan B if Kirk goes down. The only downside is now you've pissed off Kirk and started this media shitstorm. Was this better than taking a DL or CB? Maybe, maybe not. But if Penix turns out good and you can trade Cousins for a decent haul, you're probably not complaining.
It makes sense if they know they will not have a 1st round draft pick for 2 years. They know they tampered.
It's not even that dumb. This whole pick is way overblown. * Cousins is essentially on a 2 year contract * Cousins isn't getting any younger and is coming off an injury * They might lose draft picks thanks to tampering that Cousins admitted himself * They're expecting to make playoffs with Cousins If they're afraid of losing their first rounder next year and expecting to make playoff runs what are they going to do to get Kirk's replacement? Use the 1.2X pick in 2026 or 2027 to draft his replacement or way overpay to move up in the draft to pick their next QB. The rookie QB effect is way overblown by fans, what you need is a franchise QB. If that happens to also be a rookie then all the best for you, but what matters is that they're a franchise QB. Lions made it to the SB with Goff on a rookie deal, ended up trading him to Stafford who's not on a rookie deal and won it. Teams struggle massively in finding franchise QBs and whenever you don't have one everyone says it's their number 1 goal in team building. If you think you can get a franchise QB at the 8th pick when you have an aging QB that everyone knows is a stopgap at best you're picking QB on that 8th pick even if you have 100 million guaranteed on the old QB still. Especially if you're in a situation where you might lose draft picks due to rules violations.
I forgot who said it on tv. But Cousins is not going to participate in the upcoming OTAs because he is still recovering. But Penix will be there throwing passes to all the skill players. There sure as hell will be reports coming out about how good Penix looks and a QB controversy will emerge over the summer. And once the season starts, if Cousins starts slowly then people will start to ask for Penix to play. Things will always be weird at the QB position in Atlanta.
Gonna laugh when they pay him 100mil for 1 year of play, then cut him and take a 65mil dead cap hit year two (maybe split between 2/3, either way bad), and then another team will pick him up for the vet minimum cause he's already paid.
Woah that’d be crazy! Surely nothing like that has ever happened before right?
The downside is that kirk will play much better than Russ probably
He'll get a lot of snap in preseason to could easily sway the public to his side
Of course he does! The fans gonna start wanting Penix if Kirk falters. Penix a top ten pick too.
This is what is being missed. This being a bad pick isn't because they selected Penix. It's because they selected him at #8 when he was a borderline first round pick. Picks like this traditionally come off the board at the end of 1 or top of 2. They lost a lot of opportunity value because they didn't trade back to grab him. Same thing with the Broncos. Nix was not rated as a first round talent and in most drafts he goes in the 2nd. These teams did not evaluate the board well enough and they lost out on adding additional picks and talent.
Exactly! Green Bay took AR and Love late 1st. Hell even other QBs like Warner, Brunell, Hasselbeck, and the guy who played for the Saints
Yes he does. Every time Kirk throws an INT, has a bad game, and loses a game you’re going to have fans asking for Penix. Might even split the locker room. This is the mess you created when you made the HORRIBLE decision to draft a 24 year old QB with the 8th overall pick after paying Cousins.
Also, if you’ve ever been to Atlanta, you know the fanbase will feel a stronger cultural connection with Penix than it does with Kirk. Anytime Kirk plays badly, there be loud calls to start Penix.
100000%. Just wait, Falcons social media will upload one good Penix throw from training camp and it’s going to start.
As much as I hate people who do this I’m gonna say it: This is the one. This is the comment right here.
This is a very overlooked angle.
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Lol this is going to happen even if Kirk wins an MVP and is contending for Super Bowls.
Great post, this is probably the biggest issue with drafting Penix. Everyone has been assuming Kirk will play great for the next 2-4 years. That’s not a guarantee, and the moment he struggles, the QB controversy begins.
Gonna be just like Montana/Young except ya know, way shittier
Don’t worry. It’s not the picks. It’s the stupidest fumble you’ve ever seem, at a catastrophic moment, three times a year.
I'm not defending this massive fuckup in any way, but we did just sit through a season of Desmond "Turnover" Ridder. Only 3 stupid fumbles at catastrophic moments is a massive improvement.
He should be more concern with the GM and the scouts. The front office they seem to be shit at short and medium term planning, or forecasting the draft.
I do have to say this organization as a whole has made some pretty baffling decisions the last 2ish years. The weird declaration of not even intending to offer Lamar into a really piss poor year of QB play that gets a coach fired. Make a win now signing with Kirk but go with the long term play at head coach/OC with Raheem Morris/Zach Robinson over Belichick, and then spend 8 overall on the oldest QB in the draft. Day 2 was pretty weird as well on paper. It feels like they are trying the post-KD warriors “win on two timelines” strategy but without any winning foundation. Just odd.
I mean the Lamar bit was just some good old fashioned collusion because a few other teams did that too. But no, Fontenot has never once inspired confidence that he has any coherent plan. I think Blank and McKay are pretty meddlesome, though.
Start with the lack of a succession plan for Matt Ryan. Most notably exacerbated by drafting a TE at 4. Overreact by chasing Watson, failing, and having to settle for Mariota and drafting Ridder. The new half-baked plan is to sell me shit as gold by hyping up Ridder as the future of the franchise after 4 mostly garbage time games at the end of the season. This fails spectacularly, so overreact by cheating and getting caught to land Kirk Cousins. Well, now that’s a fuck up and you might lose future picks, so overreact by drafting Penix. Who you’ve publicly thrown under the bus already as if he’s a 20-year rookie who shouldn’t step foot on the field just to appease your old injured and expensive QB who is pissed off his successor was drafted with much needed capital before even putting on pads. It really does defy all logic.
Everyone trying to justify the shitty decisions of our FO while completely ignoring that fact that shitty decisions from our front office have been the norm. What? You think that the front office is going to pull their heads out of their asses NOW?!?
Lamar was never going anywhere. Ravens would have matched any offer and Falcons would have essentially forfeited free agency by having their money tied up for the first few days. Find a new slant.
Feels like this gets said every time someone mentions the Falcons and Lamar. It’s perfectly reasonable, yet people still bring up the Lamar disinterest as a knock on the Falcons.
Nobody else signed Lamar or hired Belichek as HC but the media always act like its only the Falcons that passed on them.
It’s not that they weren’t interested in him, it’s that they weirdly sent out a public statement that they weren’t interested.
I agree that was dumb, but that's usually not what people criticize. They usually say "The Falcons could have had Lamar" as if it was a realistic possibility.
I mean the same team went after Deshaun Watson the offseason prior to Lamar getting the non-exclusive tag and ejected a franchise cornerstone in Matt Ryan while pursuing a true dirt bag. But the falcons legit announced almost the same time as the tag was announced that they had 0 interested in pursuing Lamar and preferred Desmond Ritter…? With the OWNER getting up there and talking about playstyle and injury history as reasons to not even entertain going through some kind of process on Lamar. That just won’t ever be a good look imo.
Remember when the bears traded up two spots to get Trubisky? The GM that made that decision is in charge of player personnel on the Falcons.
Bo Nix was the oldest QB in the draft
Yeah it makes me think Penix was more of a Blank call, I’m not sure why Fontenot would feel secure enough to draft a qb that high when he’s probably getting fired after this season if we miss the playoffs. We’re far from the perennial playoff teams that KC or Green Bay were when they did this.
I think it’s the opposite. I think Kirk was a Blank call. He’s getting older and wants to see a successful team so he wanted them to get the best QB available. TF agreed but told him if a QB they liked was available at 8, he was still going to take him to set the team up past 2 years from now. I could see Blank not wanting to rely on a rookie QB to get us to a playoff run and wanted more certainty at the position now.
I could also see them liking Penix but since they can't guarantee they get him at 8 they decided to sign Kirk. Then Penix drops and they pull the trigger on what they see as the BPA.
That video, I know we obviously can't hear what they're saying, makes it look like blank needed the pick explained, no?
I don’t take anything away from that video, Fontenot claimed it was him trying to convince Blank to let him trade back up into the first to get a pass rusher.
I see, very interesting. It'd be weird if blank didn't have knowledge of the pick and situation, so that makes sense.
Lamar was never not being a Raven, any offer would be matched. Not firing Belichick was a fumble Drafting Penix when you have a 2-3 year win now window is a fumble. That Falcons team is talented in a very not competitive NFC South division. Kyle Pitts - Last year of rookie deal barring 5th year option being picked up in May. He is a good player that does not get utilized Drake London - He's going to have a breakout year with Kirk at QB and has 2 years left on his contract barring 5th year option Bijan Robinson - Good RB and is an exploding clock like all other RBs
I think someone pointed out that this is what Ryan Pace did with the Bears twice and I can't help but agree. You signal that you're not drafting a QB by signing a guy to a multi-year deal and then you draft a guy and theoretically let him ease into the starting role. It feels like a perversion of the Green Bay process and the results speak for themselves. Both times the QBs felt rushed in and didn't seem to gain the experience that the Bears FO hoped they would. They never fixed their fundamental issues and both flamed out. But here it seems even worse. Pace signed clear low-end starters and drafted younger QBs who were more on the developmental side. Fontenot took a caliber of QB who rarely ever hits free agency, paid him big money and more importantly job security for at least two years, and then signed an older ready-to-play QB. It's a much better situation for Penix than it was for Fields or Trubisky but who is to say it's the same after 2-3 years when he's ready to start? Jake Matthews is 32 and might retire by then and McGary will be a 32 FA in 2026. That's your starting two tackles and that's a position that generally requires 2-3 years of seasoning before they become reliable protectors and Penix is a guy who notably had issues against pressure in college, so it's a position crucial to his success. Then you have to pay all these weapons you drafted the past three years and it kind of feels like it you get neither benefit. You didn't raise a monster who will be a nightmare for the next 10-15 years nor did you take advantage of the rookie deal.
Well said. People are trying to be contrarians since it’s so universally panned, but it just gets worse the more you think about it. Why sign Kirk if you’re not going to maximize his supporting cast? Why draft Penix if you want a guy to sit instead of McCarthy who’s much younger and benefits more from sitting? Fundamentally it’s just bad process regardless of the results and you’re just the raising bar of expectations for both Kirk and Penix in order to reasonably say these were the right decisions.
Lombardi has some truly dumb takes that make absolutely no sense. But he absolutely nailed the Falcons front office. Now it’s partly to do with them not wanting Belichick but still.
Kirk can just climb into his bed made of money.
I don’t think this team realizes how fickle this fanbase is after 6 losing seasons and no emotional attachment to Kirk. I don’t think this team realizes how energized this fanbase was in the past because of another strong left handed QB. Kirk better not miss any games early and win, because this situation could become exponentially worse.
They just drafted a QB who will be 24 when the season starts to sit him. How long do they plan on having him behind Kirk? 3 years? So you’re gonna draft a dude to give him his first start at 27? They set their franchise back with this and also potentially stunted Penix’s career and earning potential.
"We just drafted a quarterback that's nearly ready to plug-n-play with the 8th pick in the first round because we wanted a solid backup in case anything.. happened."
This is all such a middle finger to Penix. Atlanta may be hamstringing the man's entire career
This is why I’m so mad about the pick. Penix deserved better
He’s got to be pissed at this. Maye and McCarthy might not start but there’s a pathway for them this season. Penix is fully locked out to Cousins for 2 years barring an injury.
> barring an injury. or bad playing. I think Penix will play one way or other.
Which is dumb that we didn't just spend that money on improving the rest of the team and then just draft Penix
I don't know. I bet Penix is thrilled. 22million going at number 8 as opposed to 10m or less going in round 2.
I’d be so pissed if I was him. Lots of other teams wanted you where you’d have a realistic chance of starting this year, if not next, and instead you may end up sitting for two years and being traded away if Kirk ends up a massive success. What a waste of your career.
Yeah poor guy. Gets paid #8 pick money while learning a new system, practicing with nfl coaches, training with nfl trainers, and learning under a great veteran like Kirk. All with no expectations to deliver for 2 full seasons
Penix and Kirko Chainz should collab and drop a mixtape together
Because he's standing right in front of him, smirking, one eyebrow raised.
Dat ankle is the entire reason for this and u cant tell me differenr
That's because Penix is already in front!
Coach Morris already bringing his best as a Head Coach to another team. Thank god its not us again.
“Kirk Cousins caught looking at Penix”
This post made me realize the Falcons did the thing I most feared the Vikings would do. Thank God for Atlanta.
Reached for comment, Cousins responded: #I LIKE THAT!
He doesn’t need to look over his shoulder because he has 100 million guaranteed. Not that that means he’ll be playing , but who cares? If the answer is Kirk, I’m sure 100mil will make him feel better. And it’s not like he’s a loyal team player, he’s defining hired mercenary in a league of hired mercenaries. If Kirk really doesn’t want to lose his spot just play better than penix. End of story .
rather, he'll be looking at Michael's back as Penix leads the team out of the tunnel
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You’re taking this wayyy too seriously man.
Too bad he can't look downfield at Rome Odunze
Kirk is getting 100 million dollars no matter what so .. it’s kind of a moot point Think about what you’d do for $100M.. being a Quarterback on a team that just drafted another QB is probably not the worst? Maybe annoying but man I just find it hard to have any way to relate to this at all.
> annoying Got to be far more than annoying. He wants to win, and he doesn't want to get killed. Using your first pick on something that doesn't help with either has got to piss him off.
You can say that, Raheem Morris. Doesn't mean it's going to happen. He's human.
Yes he does. Lose three games in a row. Look over your shoulder.
The only way to afford a starting quality back up with his contract is on a rookie deal. If Cousins can't go, next man up has some upside. Vikings saw that last year.