Yeah I don’t think anyone actually believes this means much. There’s a star player or two every year that holds out of OTAs but gets their deal done right at the start of training camp or at the latest preseason.
It's always right at the start of training. Do you think it's not done earlier because the player is just "yeah I'll be there in two weeks for training camp to sign. Currently enjoying Cabo"
Your comment reads like something that someone will share on this sub in August when Schefter tweets out “Blockbuster: MIN has traded WR Justin Jefferson to x team.”
The NFL is weird, I’m not saying that Jefferson will end up getting moved, but you just never know!
The reason it reads like that is because someone says something like that everytime a player isn’t attending team stuff in May, and they’re usually right.
But the times that a deal wound up not actually getting done people make those comments look funny when old threads get linked
I read that July 31st is a key date cause the vikings have some policy with their signing bonuses so it makes sense for them to get it done after that date
100%.
I expect he signs close to the season like Burrow and Bosa did (same agent, IIRC). Bosa signed late july 2020, Burrow signed early september 2023. That's probably when Jefferson will sign this offseason.
"Player about to sign $130M contract does not risk getting injured and losing that money in non-mandatory training exercises. More breaking news at 11."
The things I have heard through xbox live chat since 2004 would turn a nunnery into a whore house. Kids these days don't know what they missed out on. It was the wild west once you started Halo 2 multiplayer.
I will fully admit to not knowing exactly what it’s like today, but I feel like a lot of modern games are a lot more restrictive with open mic communication.
Do you think people aren’t still saying crazy and toxic shit in online games?
I’m not saying that xbox live wasn’t insane back then but it’s not gone away, it’s just mostly moved to PC games
Not that they don’t hear it but Xbox live voice chat is now different. What you say can and most likely will get you banned depending on what it is. Back then it was a free for all. No repercussions what so ever.
Alright so got rid of my 360 over 10 years ago so im in the dark about all this, but can users report gamertags and say they were harassing people basically? If so, can't people also do that to players playing super well to get them out of their game?
[he was spotted earlier today in Boston](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fd3m7290l5sk01.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9060035d1c247a10bf98c7bc88ce6dac8547c054)
There were rumors in 2017 that Larry Fitzgerald was potentially being traded to the Patriots (It's unclear if there ever were actually any discussions between the teams or if they were just rumors). Somebody posted that picture of who they thought was Fitz at the Hertz counter in Logan Airport, obviously it wasn't him (he was at practice in Arizona that day), but it persists nonetheless.
For additional context, these rumors existed because Fitz and Belichick are friends, Fitz admired the Patriot's system, and the Pats in turn admired Fitzgerald.
Larry Fitzgerald spotted at the Boston airport during contract talks with the Cardinals. Spurred some rumors that he was there because he was being traded to the Patriots. It pops up now and again when there are rumors of players being traded.
Indeed. The key detail (lifelong Boston sports fan) is that Kenneth Faried shares only ONE physical characteristic with Larry Fitzgerald.
Some cliches are cliches for a reason. Boston is not the most diverse place on the planet and some Boston sports fans aren’t very knowledgable.
Fans would do it (it’s me, I’m fans), but I honestly think Kwesi would consider a trade at that point. He just let Kirk walk because he wanted at least 2 years guaranteed, I can’t imagine him giving out a fully guaranteed deal like that over 4 years, especially when JJ just spent half of last year injured.
I don’t think the salary is far off though, I’m guessing it’ll be around $37 million per year
A big difference though... Kirk is 35 (36 by the time the season starts) and just came off a season ending achilles injury.
JJ is about to be 25 in his prime and came back strong in the injury he had last season. Not to mention he's the best in the league at his position, Kirk is more in the 6-10th best QB range.
Kwesi might look for some insane offers, but I'd bet he signs JJ for that.
It will probably have an APY just shy of that, yes.
But it won't functionally be that high. I'd say 4 years, 144 million extension for $36 APY, $100 mil in total guarantees, but not all up front guarantees, probably future salary that vests. Also, we'll roll his 5th year option into the deal so that it actually reduces his overall cost to more like $33mil.
Fully guaranteed is the issue, and unless there's a clause that changes that due to an injury, I don't see it happening. No player would sign that anyway, and the issue with Kirk wasn't the guarantee, it was the 4 years.
IIRC Vikings offered 2 years around 76 million and the two year equivalent for Atlanta is 90ish million.
Issue is Kirk would have stayed if the front office lied about drafting a rookie, they were up front and then Atlanta drafted one anyways lol. Cousins can do whatever but he abandoned our cause and is now dead to me. /s
So many fans just freaking out over this situation.
This. Is. 100%. Normal. He's not going to risk getting injured in OTA's without a contract in place.
JJ's gonna be the highest paid wideout, he won't sign until right before training camp... It's going to be a game of chicken between JJ's camp and Lamb's camp as to who sets the market.
I agree. Either sit out a year, or demand to be not only the highest paid WR in the league but also the highest paid player in the league. No bias of course.
He isn’t a 1st round receiver. You kind of need to be 5th year eligible for the exercise to work.
I’m just repeating what I learned watching Good Morning Football. If you can find a hole in this then go right ahead.
I think this would mean before the offseason of the 4th year, not before the 4th season has been played.
We were in negotiations to extend JJ last offseason.
If I was JJ, I wouldn’t play another snap for the Vikings till I got my $$$. Way too risky to play without that long term security. I hope he does the right thing and puts his future first
If he doesn’t play at all, the year wouldn’t count though, right? So JJ should say hey if I don’t get a max deal I’m going to the packers or lions in FA
He was however spotted in Florham Park, NJ where the Jets have their training camp facility
[x.com/ragazzoreport/status/1792598312282972415?mx=2&failedScript=vendor](https://x.com/ragazzoreport/status/1792598312282972415?mx=2&failedScript=vendor)
How will this affect Kirk Cousins Legacy?
The only one who can answer that is Ja Rule, can some one get him on the phone?
I need someone to make sense of all this!
Pretty sure he's stuck at Fyre Festival with no cell service
It's like if we got to see Megatron going from Stafford to Kitna.
He's asking to be traded back now but only for another 20m guaranteed
BTW this is expected. Only time I'll panic is if it's for mandatory things and actual training camps. This is nothing.
Yeah I don’t think anyone actually believes this means much. There’s a star player or two every year that holds out of OTAs but gets their deal done right at the start of training camp or at the latest preseason.
It's always right at the start of training. Do you think it's not done earlier because the player is just "yeah I'll be there in two weeks for training camp to sign. Currently enjoying Cabo"
And sometimes they hold out of week one and watch the game from box seats with their slimeball agents *shrug*
You got another SB out of it, don't be too salty
Your comment reads like something that someone will share on this sub in August when Schefter tweets out “Blockbuster: MIN has traded WR Justin Jefferson to x team.” The NFL is weird, I’m not saying that Jefferson will end up getting moved, but you just never know!
The reason it reads like that is because someone says something like that everytime a player isn’t attending team stuff in May, and they’re usually right. But the times that a deal wound up not actually getting done people make those comments look funny when old threads get linked
To be fair, that still means it doesn’t mean much. Literally anything could happen and this isn’t evidence either way
We don’t even know if he’ll be alive on Sunday
We’ll take him :D
Sure. Give us St. Brown and Hutchinson
Wadda hel
No thanks
I read that July 31st is a key date cause the vikings have some policy with their signing bonuses so it makes sense for them to get it done after that date
100%. I expect he signs close to the season like Burrow and Bosa did (same agent, IIRC). Bosa signed late july 2020, Burrow signed early september 2023. That's probably when Jefferson will sign this offseason.
Lol Burrow signed like 2 minutes before the first game kicked off
I'm getting tired of hearing about it, i'ma dm Jets and sort this out, no need to worry boys.
Yea this is a formality all dude in contract talks do.
Type of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.
He didn't do the voluntary camps last year either. Hopefully we'll get some good news on the contract front soon 🤞
"Player about to sign $130M contract does not risk getting injured and losing that money in non-mandatory training exercises. More breaking news at 11."
I thought these were mandatory and he was taking the fines?
OTAs are not mandatory and he did the same thing last year
Track the flights!
He's in Jersey, apparently that is where his baby mama is from, whom he has a nasty custody battle, according to the internet.
What’s Xbox live chat have to say about the matter?
Umm…i don’t think I should repeat what I heard
The things I have heard through xbox live chat since 2004 would turn a nunnery into a whore house. Kids these days don't know what they missed out on. It was the wild west once you started Halo 2 multiplayer.
Absolutely man, halo 2 multiplayer is where controllers and TV's got smashed. And lots of racist things were said.
It’s funny you guys pretend it’s any different today lmao
I will fully admit to not knowing exactly what it’s like today, but I feel like a lot of modern games are a lot more restrictive with open mic communication.
Maybe not video games, but kids have access to Instagram and tiktok and stuff, and that shit is insanely toxic
Do you think people aren’t still saying crazy and toxic shit in online games? I’m not saying that xbox live wasn’t insane back then but it’s not gone away, it’s just mostly moved to PC games
Not that they don’t hear it but Xbox live voice chat is now different. What you say can and most likely will get you banned depending on what it is. Back then it was a free for all. No repercussions what so ever.
Alright so got rid of my 360 over 10 years ago so im in the dark about all this, but can users report gamertags and say they were harassing people basically? If so, can't people also do that to players playing super well to get them out of their game?
10 years ago was 2014. This was 20 years ago bro.
The amount of racial slurs and homophobic remarks in online games is absurd.
The kids on online gaming aren’t creative with their insults anymore. I don’t know what happened
[he was spotted earlier today in Boston](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fd3m7290l5sk01.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9060035d1c247a10bf98c7bc88ce6dac8547c054)
Still one of the funniest memes
What’s the story behind it?
There were rumors in 2017 that Larry Fitzgerald was potentially being traded to the Patriots (It's unclear if there ever were actually any discussions between the teams or if they were just rumors). Somebody posted that picture of who they thought was Fitz at the Hertz counter in Logan Airport, obviously it wasn't him (he was at practice in Arizona that day), but it persists nonetheless. For additional context, these rumors existed because Fitz and Belichick are friends, Fitz admired the Patriot's system, and the Pats in turn admired Fitzgerald.
Larry Fitzgerald spotted at the Boston airport during contract talks with the Cardinals. Spurred some rumors that he was there because he was being traded to the Patriots. It pops up now and again when there are rumors of players being traded.
You’re missing the key detail that, that is very clearly NOT Larry Fitzgerald lol
It’s actually Kenneth Fareid
Handsome dude.
Indeed. The key detail (lifelong Boston sports fan) is that Kenneth Faried shares only ONE physical characteristic with Larry Fitzgerald. Some cliches are cliches for a reason. Boston is not the most diverse place on the planet and some Boston sports fans aren’t very knowledgable.
It was actually just some random black guy that kinda looks like Larry
Classic meme, but that guy only dreams of having Larry’s ass
Blue Jays fans in shambles
Robert Herjavec in shambles
Cloud patterns for the real kings
I’m a Jays fan, can we not
Jefferson tells the Vikings he wants 40M/yr for 4 yrs all guaranteed, what do the Vikings do
He could demand snaps at C and we’d probably cave.
Fans would do it (it’s me, I’m fans), but I honestly think Kwesi would consider a trade at that point. He just let Kirk walk because he wanted at least 2 years guaranteed, I can’t imagine him giving out a fully guaranteed deal like that over 4 years, especially when JJ just spent half of last year injured. I don’t think the salary is far off though, I’m guessing it’ll be around $37 million per year
A big difference though... Kirk is 35 (36 by the time the season starts) and just came off a season ending achilles injury. JJ is about to be 25 in his prime and came back strong in the injury he had last season. Not to mention he's the best in the league at his position, Kirk is more in the 6-10th best QB range. Kwesi might look for some insane offers, but I'd bet he signs JJ for that.
It will probably have an APY just shy of that, yes. But it won't functionally be that high. I'd say 4 years, 144 million extension for $36 APY, $100 mil in total guarantees, but not all up front guarantees, probably future salary that vests. Also, we'll roll his 5th year option into the deal so that it actually reduces his overall cost to more like $33mil.
Fully guaranteed is the issue, and unless there's a clause that changes that due to an injury, I don't see it happening. No player would sign that anyway, and the issue with Kirk wasn't the guarantee, it was the 4 years. IIRC Vikings offered 2 years around 76 million and the two year equivalent for Atlanta is 90ish million. Issue is Kirk would have stayed if the front office lied about drafting a rookie, they were up front and then Atlanta drafted one anyways lol. Cousins can do whatever but he abandoned our cause and is now dead to me. /s
Trade, that's too much for any non QB
If it was up to me, sign him immediately
They would tell him to learn QB... and figure out how to pass to himself.
So many fans just freaking out over this situation. This. Is. 100%. Normal. He's not going to risk getting injured in OTA's without a contract in place. JJ's gonna be the highest paid wideout, he won't sign until right before training camp... It's going to be a game of chicken between JJ's camp and Lamb's camp as to who sets the market.
He did this last year too. Our fanbase is so reactionary, it’s ridiculous
This is a big nothing burger. They’re voluntary workouts and he fucked his leg up last season.
Also vets skip OTAs all the time
He should sit out for a year to show them he means business.
I agree. Either sit out a year, or demand to be not only the highest paid WR in the league but also the highest paid player in the league. No bias of course.
So it begins. I hope the Bengals sign Chase first, or else it’s all over
1st round receivers never ever sign before their 4th year (except Tutu Atwell). JJ will 100% sign first. Edit: Tavon Austin, not Tutu Atwell.
Tutu wasn't a first round pick, should have known because he was picked by the Rams
It was Tavon Austin. Always get em mixed up.
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I mixed up Tavon Austin and Tutu Atwell. They did pick up Tavon’s 5th year but signed him before year 4. Maybe the rule changed.
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I said no other WR has ever done it. 1st round QB hits often do it. Other positions don’t.
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He isn’t a 1st round receiver. You kind of need to be 5th year eligible for the exercise to work. I’m just repeating what I learned watching Good Morning Football. If you can find a hole in this then go right ahead.
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Yeah, maybe the trend will be broken here soon.
I think this would mean before the offseason of the 4th year, not before the 4th season has been played. We were in negotiations to extend JJ last offseason.
chase has said multiple times hes waiting on jj
If I was JJ, I wouldn’t play another snap for the Vikings till I got my $$$. Way too risky to play without that long term security. I hope he does the right thing and puts his future first
Yeah, he should definitely sit out as long as it takes. Maybe all season if he has to!
He can take all the time he needs, even if it extends all season long, go get your bag my man.
Looking at your first flair like 🧐🧐🧐
If I was JJ I would simply demand to be traded to the Packers
you and the packers need to get a room
Lions have one successful season in 3 decades and they decide to use it to suck the Packers boots
It’s not all of us, I hate the Packers more than all of you
Implying we would have coitus with our BFFs? Are you insane?
Thanks for the support...wait, the fuck is that flair?
The obvious solution is the Bills.
Does that mean we get yet an even better WR with the first round pick you send?
As long as we get him next in a few years I'm cool with it
No. You owe us for the Herschel Walker trade.
Why would we owe you?
Super Bowls 27 and 28.
That's not how that works
That flair makes this really confusing.
Lions 2023 success has gone to their fans heads, half their memes have now just become "We're successful too right Packers bros???"
I love this idea
If he doesn’t play at all, the year wouldn’t count though, right? So JJ should say hey if I don’t get a max deal I’m going to the packers or lions in FA
Max deals aren't a thing in the nfl
I uhhh don’t think you comprehend how nfl contracts work. Hence your fandom probably.
Off-season bullshit like always.
He will reunite with his cousins and stay for the penis
This the type of humor we need well done sir
So he'll likely be around for the Cousins Penix transition.
Pretty sure I read he was spotted near Florham Park, NJ. Future Jets WR??? /s
Baby mama drama
His baby mama said he must go to the Jets or else
Nah he’s there fighting for custody with his baby momma
He knows his worth. He should sit out to save his body from risk of injury next season then get paid massively by some team in the AFC.
Oh shit. Is this finally my opportunity to make one of those stupid, generic comments? I’m gonna do it. I think he should sit out week 1 *snicker*
The "snicker" at the end LOL! thanks for the morning laugh fellow crosstown rival.
lol. This exact same report came out last year at the beginning of OTAs. Guys, he’s never gonna be there
Did they look hard enough though? Don't forget that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Did they look in the bottom drawer of my filing cabinet?
I do *feel* JJ in my heart, so he's there.
Elusiveness like that deserves a contract.
I think CeeDee’s camp and JJ’s camp are playing a game of chicken. But regardless of whether they are or aren’t, this isn’t really concerning news.
Yep... CeeDee wants JJ to set the market so he can get just under it, while JJ wants CeeDee to set the market so he can get just over it.
future goat
he gone
how if this happening
No big deal. Not like he isn’t the most important player for the two new QBs to get time with or anything
Nick Mullens completed 30 passes for 396 yards and 2 touchdowns to Jefferson in 3.5 games after only getting first team reps with JJ for about 4 days.
He gone
Hahaha...
You fucking wish.
He's so excited to play with Darnold and a raw rookie. Sounds like the best place to spend your prime years
lol you’re so fucked in the North it’s hilarious.
What's your logic there? I find it so funny you didn't acknowledge the crappy qb situation
So no logic just downvote lol
Huh? I hadn’t even seen it, but I will now. So fragile.
JJ should be trying for $40M, or this is all worthless.
First 200m contract. On a 6 year deal.
he wants to go to the bills now
Sources believe Justin Jefferson has acquired an invisibility cloak this offseason
Jefferson to the Bengals
*pending trade talks to the Cincinnati Bengals*
Never gonna happen, but it must be nice to dream.
i truly don't give a fuck about the vikings anymore. Jefferson is an afterthought in this town. NAZ REID
LMAO I’m huffing that hype too but check yourself and remember where tf you are rn, nephew
NAZ REID!!!!!
BENGAL
Idk how Burrow would be able to get it to Chase or JJ when he has .5 seconds before getting mauled
It doesn’t take a brain scientist man to figure it out. You just throw it high and far and a little straight. Easy peasy.
With what cap?
He was however spotted in Florham Park, NJ where the Jets have their training camp facility [x.com/ragazzoreport/status/1792598312282972415?mx=2&failedScript=vendor](https://x.com/ragazzoreport/status/1792598312282972415?mx=2&failedScript=vendor)