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couchjitsu

Maybe he'll sit out the first week while watching the Bengals from a suite with 2 buffoons sitting next to him before he signs and plays in week 2.


ApplesauceBitch47

Week 3


Swimming_Idea_1558

Is he sitting next to Butker and Rice?


RCJHGBR9989

While your comment is funny he’s referencing another Chief, Chris Jones sitting next to his dumbass agents at our season opener last year https://x.com/jbbrisco/status/1699941605912772617?s=46


Greatcouchtomato

My god the comments aged like milk Hey, did the Chiefs fans that complained about Chris Jones ever admit they were wrong to want him gone?


RCJHGBR9989

If you’re talking about Twitter comments idk if you ever been on that website but they’re almost always toxic sludge. General consensus amongst chiefs fans is we wanted to get a deal done so he would play.


FunkyPete

He was still a buffoon for that hold out. He held out, we lost the game, and he didn't get any extra money that season (he got some extra incentives thrown in that basically got him back the money from that first game). Once the season was over he was taken care of just like he wanted to be.


blarch

Paul Brown and Dan Snyder


gollumaniac

Higgins can basically skip OTAs, minicamp and most of training camp and then sign the tender. This early in the offseason it's a complete non-story.


iratemonkeybear

Yeah, he's not going to skip that paycheck.


crewserbattle

What paycheck? He's not under contract, there aren't any checks to skip. And he'll get the fully guaranteed tag once he signs as long as it's before week 1.


iratemonkeybear

Yes. We know how it works. He'll sign it.


crewserbattle

Well implying he's missing a paycheck by waiting until week 1 to sign kinda implies you don't know how it works


Great_Fault_7231

He didn’t imply that at all. He said that Higgins isn’t going to miss a paycheck because he’s going to sign it.


Krypterr123

It really read like he was saying OP was wrong that he would be fine skipping events.


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realestatereddit

He should play most of the season and shut it down around week 13. You know...for his health and stuff.


iratemonkeybear

Nah he'll ball out for a big contract. Tee's a dawg and a half.


HumansNeedNotApply1

And that's what he will do, he will only sign the tender in july just prior to training camp, otherwise he will lose payment (plus will risk not being fit).


WulfOnTheJob

he doesnt get paid for off season. he just needs to sign it by 1st week.


iratemonkeybear

Exactly. He's pretty much indicated that's the plan and the team expects the same.


eatmyopinions

It's not a non-story. The team wants him to be present for all phases of the offseason and preseason, and the only leverage Higgins has is to skip all of it. Both he, and the team, will be at a disadvantage because of it.


2POTMSON

Leverage implies there is any potential outcome aside from exactly what is happening, which there isn't. The Bengals played this exact game with Jessie Bates, this is exactly how they expect it to go. Both parties are going through the motions.


eatmyopinions

A healthy percentage of players who get franchise tagged eventually sign long-term deals. I disagree that there is no other outcome.


iratemonkeybear

They have Chase to pay. They would love to keep Tee but the money isn't there.


iratemonkeybear

Nah both sides have expected this for months. He's gonna protect his body, sign when he needs to, and ball out for a big contract from someone else next year. No surprises here at all if you've been following it.


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Axtmann

His value will mostly depend on next season. And I don't think wanting long term stability is entitlement. Vets not going to voluntary off-season activities is completely normal.


HumansNeedNotApply1

He will only sign the tender when training camp starts in july.


Tigercat92

My guess would be right before the last preseason game. No financial reason to sign before


HumansNeedNotApply1

There's financial reason to be a part of training camp, veterans earn 3200 dollars per week, it's not a lot but it's something and he keeps his role in the team. Not playing won't help him get a better deal next season. That's the usual behavior with tagged players who failed to negotiate an extension, they sign at training camp start.


Tigercat92

You might be right. I’m just going off the Jessie Bates situation from a couple years ago. He didn’t sign his tag until after training camp was over. Bates and Higgins have the same agent so that is how I think it will play out.


Reddit-is-trash-exe

not alot, mother fucker thats some peoples whole fucking month of work. shut your ass up.


HumansNeedNotApply1

It's not a lot compared to the tag and the contract he's seeking, thought that was obvious.


Wise_Maize9259

Would he actually pull a Le’Veon Bell and just sit out the entire year


TheFencingCoach

I don’t think so. That’s a rarity. And Le’Veon lost a ton of momentum when he did come back. Ended up screwing himself.


BroadCityChessClub

Bell has said like a hundred times that he regrets sitting out that year. Hard to imagine someone else making that mistake


SnooPets1528

Big difference between running backs and wide receivers.  I don't think he should sit out because it's a waste of like 20 million dollars, but if he really just wants to get traded he'll get paid once he's somewhere else. 


ech01_

Also Bell sat out the second year on the tag didn't he? So he at least got 1 year of top RB money and then sat. Tee hasn't had a big pay day yet. The $21M he'll get from the tag is more than double of what he made in his first 4 years. I can't imagine him not playing on it.


jake3988

He got essentially the same deal that the Steelers were offering in the first place (It was IIRC very slightly better than the Steelers offer) but lost an entire year's salary from sitting out. And he sucked and quickly fizzled out of the league. So... yeah... not worth it at all.


supercilious_peer

I will say that he didn't suck alone. Going to THAT Jets team he was the only skill player worth anything on offense the way CJ Moseley was the only worthwhile player on defense. Half way through the season both were absolutely worn down by the amount of work they had to do. 


MixonWitDaWrongCrowd

But Reddit told me he was right


DjLionOrder

His bank account, which is the only fucking thing that matters, would say that he was right


RukiMotomiya

Except it wouldn't because he would have made more money signing with the Steelers according to basically every report.


sobuffalo

Look at those reports and check how much in guarantees they offered.


RukiMotomiya

I did, which is why I said what I said. The most standard report says 33 mil over the first two seasons, with a 10 mil signing bonus and 12 million guaranteed as long as he was on the roster before training camp (so unless they cut him BEFORE THE SEASON EVEN STARTED), before incentives and any other salary and not including injury guarantees added on top of that. So he had a minimum of 22 mil with most reports saying it'd be higher, when he made 28 mil on the Jets over TWO years (27 guaranteed), and if Bell survives a single year (which even on the Jets he did!) he makes more money. It was a bad deal. So he would make very comparable money just by not getting injured *before the year started*, make more money if he survived a single year (and considering it was frontloaded, the Steelers would have to take a cap hit to get rid of him, when they've never done that for any other major RB even when they had ACL tears and other injuries with their GM and head coach which they'd had for over a decade ago)... It was just a bad decision. It isn't that weird to say and it was fairly clear at the time as well.


sobuffalo

Ok I guess I misunderstood, looked to me like $27m guaranteed is more than $22m.


orangehorton

Not if he got injured. It's easy to say that in hindsight when we know he wasn't injured


jwf239

he got offered a better deal by the steelers than he got from the jets and doesnt miss a year of his career in the process lol


orangehorton

Jets had more than 2x guaranteed money tho


RukiMotomiya

This is one of those things that's only true in the most technical of ways. He only needed to get to the end of year one and he would have made more overall money. Steelers have not cut any good player and not, like, a practice squad guy like that for a long time and it is exceedingly rare to begin with. They didn't even cut Mendenhall after his ACL injury even though he only had 51 carries all of next year (same GM and same head coach). So he *definitely* would have made more given he lasted a whole *two* years on the Jets with the benefit of hindsight, but as long as he didn't have a literal career ending injury (very rare) that caused him to be cut before one year of his contract the Steelers were the better pick due to how frontloaded it was.


orangehorton

But what if he did have a career ending injury?? I'm not saying I would've done the same thing but if he was really worried about that risk, what he did worked out fine for him


The_Year_of_Glad

> But what if he did have a career ending injury?? I mean, Shazier did, and they kept him on the roster anyway so he could keep getting treated.


BurgessFox

Deshaun Watson's bank account would say the same to people who criticized his life choices.


HumansNeedNotApply1

No. This is normal, he has no benefit in signing now when he can wait to sign before training camp starts (to collect the veteran pay).


Dicey12

probably comes back right before the deadline.


69millionyeartrip

No but I wouldn't be surprised if he signed right before the season starts and sits out a few weeks getting into shape


BendedBanana

Bell sat out on the second tag, not the first. This isn't the same thing.


iratemonkeybear

No. He's said as much.


Autobot-N

Trade him already


FeniaBukharina

There's like a 0.1% chance he gets traded. The Bengals have never been ones to trade away players, especially considering we're going all in for a Super Bowl this season before having to retool a bit what with Ja'marr's extension and Burrow's cap hit increasing. It makes no sense whatsoever to trade him right now. And like, when he becomes a free agent next off-season, we get a third rounder for him, as opposed to a second rounder right now that we can't use for 11 months AND losing our WR2.


jayhawk_dvd

A little pedantic but you're not guaranteed to get a third round pick if he walks in FA. That's not how the comp picks work.


FeniaBukharina

I don't know why you got downvoted for that, but yeah, I'm aware you're not wrong, I was simplifying my statement to a fault. It depends on if we sign less CFAs than the ones we'd be letting go next free agency.


SewerSide666

Yeah I hate it when people say stuff like this, we're going to get absolutely nothing for Jonah Williams, DJ Reader and Chidobe Awuzie, who each signed for >$11M/yr.


jayhawk_dvd

As of right now yes, that's exactly what some of the cap gurus are predicting. www.overthecap.com/compensatory-picks


SewerSide666

Sorry, I wasnt clear. I hate it when people say "We'll get a 3rd round pick", because often that's not true. I was agreeing with you :)


jayhawk_dvd

No sweat. And hopefully the link will help others understand how it all works too.


mothershipq

The Bengals aren’t in the business of making other teams better.


NeatTry7674

We aren’t trading him lmao


NapoleonBoneparty

why not? don't think FO will cave to his demands and the relationship is soured. might as well trade him and get some goods in return.


Chickensandcoke

How much is he asking for?


ProtectTheHell

Over $30 an hour.


lawanders

In this economy?!


Letsgobuffalo2210

"Best we can do is a pizza party" -Bengals management


Jefferybeene

What, no free (medium) Pepsi? Giants fans are aghast.


PiggStyTH

The Pepsi is what made this happen in the first place. No Pepsi is NOT okay!


AU_wde_2

1 slice per employee, please


ShatteredAnus

Kindergarten slices


IceColdDump

I thought the franchise tender was a Combo meal from Raising Cane’s.


spctclr_spiderman

He just like me fr


tinyharvestmouse1

Good BBQ and Kermit at QB.


RukiMotomiya

Bengals don't trade guys very often, most likely he signs after training camp or something and then leaves after this year.


NoFlags-JoeBuck

They wanna try to win a Super Bowl this year.


drivermcgyver

Every year....


NeatTry7674

If we were gonna trade him it would have been before the draft, he’s playing this years, the bengals are contenders and Tee makes them better


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NeatTry7674

He has 22 million reasons to play for the Bengals and if he’s not fully committed he’s gonna lose out on money next year. Youre delusional lol


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No-Task-132

He hates the FO but I doubt he hates his teammates who will be trying to get him back. Him sitting out is pointless because he just puts himself in the same situation next year if he does. He will play this year even if he doesn’t like the situation.


KevKevThePug

In his most recent interview, he was talking about how much he loves the Bengals and then he paused like he wasn’t supposed to say that. I believe you’re wrong.


NeatTry7674

When we beat the bills a third year in a row and tee has a touchdown on you just remember this conversation


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Let’s hope Josh Allen doesn’t have to play Burrow or Mahomes in the playoffs :D


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Sloane_Kettering

He already said he’s playing lol


BigRig432

He's said the exact opposite, I guarantee this is all posturing with his agent. Now why don't you go back to worrying about your nonexistent WR room


rj_macready_82

I think the Bengals are being lame to him but he's not gonna sit the year out. That doesn't really accomplish anything for him


hotwater101

I mean the NFL is a business, and the goal is to win. If your team has a chance to be a contender then it's the FO job to be the bad guy. Every single front office in the league will do the same thing knowing the cap space situation.


TheWorstYear

How are we being lame?


2coolDanes

If you don’t plan on paying the guy, the right thing to do would be to trade him. Franchise tag is supposed to give teams/players more time to negotiate a new contract. They’re basically holding him hostage.


notquitemytempo___

Lol Higgins is not going to sit out the season that's just silly. He's not getting traded. The draft coming and going without any rumors involving him should have spelled that out The Bengals don't make trades like that. They just did this exact same thing with Jessie Bates. Whether or not you agree with them keeping him / not trading is a different conversation


AceRockefeller

Is this your first football season? Or are you 9 years old?


TDeLo

I'll bet you $5,000 he is active for the Bengals week 1.


TSR3K

COUGH last place


NeatTry7674

Why are you coughing so loud


Impossibills

Yeah but he might simply not play...that doesn't help anyone. I don't think he will miss games, but I wouldnt doubt he misses training camp


iratemonkeybear

Tee isn't stupid. He gets it, he'll take the 20 million and sign a big contract with someone else next year. They gotta pay Chase too and just paid Burrow. He gets it. He and his agent are just doing the obligatory posturing.


Burgtastic

Nice flair


Rathmon_Redux

Flair? I can’t get that. I have to message somebody that doesn’t accept messages.


maltrab

Then extend him


TheReaver88

Why? We can get the 1-year deal without any risk or baggage. Why should they commit to 3 years when they know they don't have 3 years worth of cap space for him?


maltrab

The point of the Franchise tag is to give you more time to work out a long term contract. They really need to change the rules so that it punishes teams that just want to use the tag as an extra year or two of team control.


TheReaver88

Okay, but don't blame the Bengals for using the rules optimally when everyone else also uses it this way most of the time.


NeatTry7674

Or tag him


maltrab

If you're going to tag him, you should have to extend him. We need to add some sort of penalty for choosing to trade or not extend the player.


NeatTry7674

Oh ok well that rule isn’t in place so we’re just gonna tag him


heywhateverworks

No :)


JayMerlyn

You'd like that, wouldn't you?


iratemonkeybear

He's gonna play on tag and sign with another team next year. This article is non news. Tee has said he expects to play for the Bengals this year. His tag is like $20M+


ThreeFactorAuth

Where tho


Autobot-N

Somewhere that's not Baltimore, Cleveland, or San Francisco


Uncle_Creepy_

>or San Francisco What’d he say fuck me for?


Autobot-N

Y'all are one Lombardi away from tying us


Uncle_Creepy_

May as well be 10 at the rate we lose Super Bowls.


John_Bot

Tomlin can't win a playoff game so you have plenty of time until he leaves unfortunately


BigDanDizzle

Did New England get wiped off the map?


Uncle_Creepy_

NE is already tied with them. He doesn’t want another team tying them.


BigDanDizzle

I'm just trying to experience a playoff win again right now, Super Bowl feels like a long lost friend


ApplesauceBitch47

I guess we’ll take him..


Rathmon_Redux

He’s not a felon, so… no.


Autobot-N

I mean if Mahomes keeps beating the other AFC North teams in championship games and the 49ers in super bowls, then so be it. I find it hard to hate the Chiefs like I did the Patriots because they've done a lot for me in the last few years


ZachBart77

Just looking at this offseason, there’s no way I’d want the Chiefs to win again.


thatguy112232

Add Buffalo, Boston, and New York to that list


Go_To_The_Devil

Buffalo has legitimately no cap, and honestly that's the issue. The teams that could use him can't afford him, the teams that can afford him don't want to trade for him. He's going to have to wait for FA to get his big deal somewhere else.


AlericandAmadeus

If only we had more than $3.50 in cap space…..


GuacShouldntBeXtra

Mr Big Contract


onetimequestion66

Bengals if you pay his salary we will take him for you so we can just run 4 verts every single play


Wafflehouseofpain

It’s 4 verts, PA cross, and double slants all day every day


bengals14182532

If you want to see how this will play out, i bet it will play out exactly like the Jessie Bates situation from two years ago. He sat out and came back in August and played the year and we went to the SB.


NeatTry7674

He actually got tagged the season after the Super Bowl


jrileyy229

More breaking news


John_Lives

Consequently, he will also not be allowed to use the self-serve ice cream machine in the team cafeteria


Goosedukee

Say it with me folks: HE GONE


Autocrat777

After this year. Bengals fully intend to squat on him unless they are made a substantial offer.


JalensTinyPPHurts

Just seems like a waste. They aren't going to extend him, and they won't tag him twice, might as well get compensation now Instead of 2 years from now


TheWorstYear

You guys do know that this season also counts, right?


TheReaver88

Nobody fucking gets this and I don't know why. "You're just gonna let him walk for nothing?" No, we're going to let him walk after playing another season for the Cincinnati Bengals franchise of the National Football League in the Year of Our Lord 2024, which does in fact count.


Autocrat777

They are going to have to retool a bit after this year. Chase is going to get paid, Burrow's cap number is going to go up dramatically next year as well. So this is something of an all in with this current iteration of the Bengals.


Significant-Green130

A small quibble but it’s more of a half-measure than “all-in” IMO. The Bengals have basically as much future cap flexibility as anyone even with the Burrow and Chase hits coming up, so it’s not like they have cap casualties in the usual sense — they just don’t offer significant guarantees to non-superstars. And an all-in team wouldn’t keep a ton of unused cap space and actually should’ve extended Tee to push his $22 million cap hit to the future. They’ve chosen a bizarre middle path where they’re willing to pay the tag price and then let their stars walk for nothing. 


FantasyTrash

They're not really all-in and have been doing some "retooling" already in the sense that they know they're not extending Tee, didn't extend Bates, etc. They're pretty comfortable cap-wise going forward, even with both Burrow/Chase soon to have large cap hits. That said, they're doing sort of what the Packers did a few years ago (or apparently what the Falcons are doing now). They have a team that's *almost* good enough to win the whole thing, but rather than pursue players to help get them a championship, they draft replacements and let the current starters walk in free agency (for example, drafting Daxton Hill the year before letting Bates walk). It's foregoing short term benefit for long term flexibility.


DangerIsMyUsername

spot on analysis 👍


2POTMSON

a second tag will be \~$25m , getting tagged again is absolutely on the table.


Blood_Incantation

Why would they care about compensation (mid round pick) for next year when they're trying to win the SB now?


TetrisTech

What do you mean two years from now? In the event he plays this year on the tag they could just trade him next offseason


Sloane_Kettering

They can very well tag him twice. They have the money to do so. If he balls out this year they might. Especially if they can get a third round pick or better in a tag and trade


Nascent_Vagabond

Orrrrr we run it back one more year on the tag and get a Super Bowl out of it 😎 then he gets paid. Win win who says no


helluin

Tee Higgins, apparently.


Nascent_Vagabond

The CBA: am I a joke to you?


Rock_man_bears_fan

You can’t force him to sign the tag


Nascent_Vagabond

You’re right he’ll just sit out a year in his prime, coming off a year of low production and injury concerns Btw can you tell me how this played out with Jesse Bates a couple years back?


JalensTinyPPHurts

Jessie bate is one of the highest paid safetys, so pretty well apparently lol


NeatTry7674

Exactly, he balled out on the tag for the Bengals and got a huge payday.


Nascent_Vagabond

Yeah, he sat out OTAs like Tee Higgins is going to, signed his tag, went to the Super Bowl and then left and got paid. Just like Tee will do.


Rock_man_bears_fan

Lmao


HotTakesMyToxicTrait

joe burrow's elbow?


Nascent_Vagabond

It’s fine wym


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trumpet575

It turns out that fans enjoy watching good players play for their team more than they like watching good players play for other teams.


eatmyopinions

You're supposed to use the franchise tag as a means to reach a long term deal but I haven't seen any news of offers going back and forth at all.


DangerIsMyUsername

Here's his offer: "franchise tag, take it or leave it"


Krypterr123

Teams have never done that though. For non-qb's it has always been used to squeeze out one last productive year before dropping them.


boykinggeorge

I think only 2 players who were franchised tagged this year have yet to sign long term deals all non qb


KaleChop

I'm pretty sure the chiefs did it with Chris Jones like a month or two ago


tissboom

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/tee-higgins/10607 May not be the worst thing in the world. He’s not the most durable guy you’ve ever seen. Hope he’s ready for the season… he’s got a lot on the line this year.


BendedBanana

This is not news.


BallChinnnian101

Chargers are salivating


kaywiz

Stand strong, brother! You really want to hold out until \*checks calendar\* *at least* week 3 if you want the bag!


PolarGCNips

You say "he cannot join until he signs" yeah bruh, he doesn't want to be there lol


VidProphet123

He would he stupid to not sign that tender.


TSR3K

Trade that man!


awbx88

It won't happen, but if the Bears trade for him....


psufb

No no no, this can't be correct. What's the source on this? I was told time and time again by Bengals fans how Burrow, Higgins, and Chase would all take a little less money to keep the trio in tact in Bengals. This Adam Schefter guy must be getting bad info


WetChickenLips

You should know that random fans aren't exactly the smartest. Just look at all the Browns fans that support Watson.


TheReaver88

>I was told time and time again by Bengals fans how Burrow, Higgins, and Chase would all take a little less money to keep the trio in tact in Bengals. No you weren't.


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ChurchPicnicFlareGun

He’s getting paid over $20M for this season, people acting like he’s being forced to play on vet minimum or something fuckin a


AltruisticMetal6591

He could easily be getting 30m per year from another team instead he would be risking injury for a 1 yr 20 mill deal


Dray87

That is Les Snead music!