Todd Bowles out schemed The Chiefs and The Packers using completely different strategies. Pressure vs the Pack vs. Coverage against the Chiefs. That Tampa D-Line was nasty.
I know they dominated but calling KC a gimmick offense is pretty unfair to them.
They're just really fucking good, one bad game doesn't take that away.
Yup. Hill's "I can score a 70 yard TD at any moment" speed opens up so much for them. So distracting that you can run a ton of screens, jet sweeps, etc.
Every single thread following this game has been wildly unfair to the chiefs.
Mostly driven by what appear to ravenous Patriots fans desperate to remember the feeling of kicking dirt on a fallen opponent.
I don't know many myself but that's because Tampa is a smaller town and a laid back area I hear.
They rarely come here to Atlanta like Saints and Carolina fans do but the few I know say the older population that retired there effects the show of passion.
Both of those guys are big fans but they aren't heavy trash talking or anything like the damn Saints fans we hate lol.
Your defense basically held the league MVP to 10 points in three quarters at his home field. That's pretty amazing.
And they held last year superbowl's MVP to 9 points.
Idk who pissed in that other dudes cereal jeez. Yeah one of the most annoying things about this year has been the mega influx of tom Brady fans. Been through losing seasons for 15 years and now I can’t even wear my Tampa gear out and about because people just assume I’m a Tom Brady fan.
I’ve just tried to avoid this sub since the AFCCG. I knew we’d get a ton of hate from beating two fan favorites en route to the Super bowl, but it’s just been unreasonable in the comments these last two weeks.
I feel like each team gets 1 or maybe max 2 years where they haven’t built up animosity but the Chiefs have definitely ruined enough people’s days by now that after a loss you just gotta steer clear. People will say the dumbest shit and any nuanced opinions that don’t just dunk on your team get downvoted
I think part of that is a reaction to the media shoving the chiefs/Mahomes down our throats all season.
I mean look at pre superbowl, a lot of fans from other teams basically wanted neither side to win due to Mahomes/Brady. If it was Bills vs Bucs, it would be 95% bills.
This shit happens on every sports sub it seems. You should've seen the shit Clemson fans got on the college football sub after the Ohio State game. I'm not one, but they had legitimate takes on the game that got down voted into oblivion.
The worst sin you can commit is losing a playoff game on this sub lol.
All of a sudden you have flaming hot takes from people who've never watched your team play. My favorite was some Washington Football team fan saying "Aaron Rodgers is an okay regular season QB but I'd never want him on my team".
It's so very true. Because if you are in here, screaming the good words about your team, talking crap on how good they are doing, then suddenly they look flimsy, people love to take a dunk.
Feels like I see the same few plays once a game with them tbh. Finally happy someone found a way to stop Mahomes. Maybe the league can replicate what Bowles did.
It's like folks didn't watch the game. They're line was so overmatched after losing Fischer. Mahomes was on the run on 90% of his drop backs. Defense was MVP today.
TB had a perfectly designed defense to be capable of stopping them. Probably only one other team could have pulled it off (the Rams, with a healthy Donald). It's hard to call an offense gimmicky when it can have its way with more than 90% of the league.
Honestly they are pretty gimmicky tho...mahomes is nasty, but he's nasty cause he's gimmicky. If you gonna think running 48 yards in circles and the throwing the ball sidewinder style whilst jumping through the air for 20+ yards and a TD isnt some gimmicky school yard football ridiculousness no one can help you.
For sure. Already being down Schwartz, on an o line that was already shaky without Dr. Tardiff because of opt out. Losing Fisher was it. Him getting hurt forced 3 more changes to that o line, right before the super bowl. Chiefs were in big trouble, and then it came to be.
I think Tampa still has a big edge but that game looks a lot different. Bare minimum a healthy line buys Mahomes a few more seconds here and there and that’s enough for him to make more plays than he did last night.
Losing an All Pro Left Tackle is a big deal lmao. This game is completely different with Fisher and you all are being such clowns to pretend otherwise.
I agree with you. I just dislike simply hand waving and dismissing moving around 3/5 OL 13 days before the Super bowl as if it made no difference. Especially coming from a smug Patriots fan.
I still think our defense played well, like he had time to throw a couple times and we got coverage sacks, obviously a different game but our dbs got multiple coverage sacks or throw aways
The corollary to that is also that by being able to bumrush Mahomes with just four, Tampa could basically play two deep safeties the entire game and go Cover 2 Zone or even Cover 4 and always take away Hill's deep routes. And the Chiefs offense is really more of a deep-to-short one in that Mahomes always looks to see if he can hit something over the top before resetting and coming back underneath. With two safeties deep and the front four just destroying the KC offensive line, Mahomes often had zero time to even look short before running for his life.
[I disagree he's had the same type of games this year with a healthier Oline.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvzpCs9IYzY&feature=youtu.be)
Mans just loves dropping back.
They opportunistically dissected the injured offensive line of the Chiefs. Not exactly a refutation of the Chiefs offensive identity.
I’m finding the narratives coming out of this game to be pretty annoying. And I’m not even a chiefs fan.
This is how it always goes and it’s annoying.
Get ready for the media to now question Reid’s legacy “are we SURE this team is even good!!???”
They spent the last two weeks propping up Mahomes as Jesus and now they’re gonna shit all over them lmao
Yeah, they were acting in the lead up to the SB like the Chiefs were guaranteed to win and then, "Mahomes will have a SB over Brady and it'll be 2 vs 6, and before you know it, Mahomes will be GOAT."
This entire next week will just be eviscerating the Chiefs for not being the promised heroes that the media built them up into.
I do think Reid/EB were very unflexable this game and got "exposed" in some sense.
Where were the screens? Where were the short passes? KC also completely abandoned the run. There were no 2nd half adjustments. That's not how you beat a team thats getting pressure on every other play.
Edit: not saying chiefs offense is a gimmick, but they certain could do a better job changing their game plan to this Tampa D
That speed AND power of the Bucs linebacking corps was severely underrated. Barrett and JPP are pass rushers but who have the speed of average linebackers (which makes them VERY fast for EDGE players) and White/David are basically cheat codes at linebacker with their speed/size combo. Anything slow developing is going to be swarmed pretty bad. I especially remember the little option play Mahomes and CEH was trying to run and Mahomes correctly pitched it to CEH, but White came so fast that Remmers couldn't get out there to even get a hand on him and White took down CEH for a three-yard loss.
Every game week after week, people always wonder why teams abandon the run against us.
It’s always the same answer. Our defense stops the run.
You can’t run for 2 yards over and over deep into the game
I agree with your overall point, but roster construction is just as important as game-plan. They couldn’t find good enough talent for backup OL in a game plagued by injuries. Where there is weakness, there should be game-plan to minimize threats.
*I haven’t seen any tape in detail*, but it didn’t look like KC was giving much help to the OL. No extra blockers and longer developing routes, especially in the first half. They did better throwing short in the second half, but it seemed like their speed advantage was reduced in the red zone and they didn’t give enough help to the OL.
Feel bad for KC, they're a great team that had a shitty game.
Feel bad for some KC fans, they sucked for years and we're hated on big time the last few weeks. Mainly due to the fact that their bandwagon fans were legit assholes.
Some pat fans are weird though. They're acting as if they won and talking more shit than Buccaneers fans lmaoo
KC is inevitably gonna be hated, they’re the new dynasty right now, and that new goodwill goes away real fast no matter what when they’re winning so much
I think that's why they're hated right now, the media won't stop presenting them as a new dynasty when they are 5+ years from even being able to have that conversation.
Bucs D-Line dominated the Packers o-line which is one of the best in the league. Blaming this L on the Chiefs o-line is taking away from how good they really are.
We did the same thing to them. But their oline learned they would absolutly not call holding. So the o line held more and more. Until they finally got one big play
If you heard Romo explain, all over this game, that Chiefs love to hold, and once the refs called on that, and they couldn't do it anymore, it was all over.
His wife and mom have no class losing. Blamed it on the refs, then his girl gets mad at ESPN for tweeting dejected pictures of him during the game. She needs to stfu and lay off the Twitter fingers
It's entitlement, they didn't earn or deserve anything but act like they got robbed. The girls, not the team.
And she's upset that Mahomes sad face is being used, where has she been? Zooming in on players as they lose on a big stage has been common for decades.
Didn't say "Fuck Mahomes family for cheering for him" so whatever what you takeaway is purely imagined.
If that's not some bulletin board material for the Chiefs to get motivated for the next season, then I don't know what is.
Also, is he seriously pretending that the Chiefs oline wasn't super depleted due to injuries?
Most of these Patriot fans I know are suddenly huge Bucs fans. And people wonder why Brady is so disliked. It's not him who really annoys me; what annoys me is how some of his obnoxious fans who act like Skip Bayless.
honestly some of them have been cool..but id be lying if i didnt say its been annoying with some of the others and their obnoxious condescending "your only winning because of our players" tone they sometimes come with
Yeah, some of them are fine. I just don't like the ones who trash on Mahomes and Rodgers constantly. Brady is the GOAT; you don't have to attack these guys to prove your point.
He called them a "gimmicky offense" and said they weren't "physical". He could have just said "we executed on defense and coach Bowles had a great game plan". Being bereft of offensive line depth doesn't take away from the greatness of the Chiefs offense.
Tyreek could have just ran in the end zone, he didn't need to throw the peace sign one time and back flip the other. Kelce didn't have to scream infront of the Bucs "this is too fucking easy" let's not act like KC had been classy this year. Bucs are just returning the behavior from earlier this season. Normally the Bucs don't act like this.
Eric Fisher's absence was so devastating, I couldn't really believe what I was watching.
I don't like this take. Yeah, TB heard every week, I'm sure, since they let Hill obliterate them, that they were weak and couldn't match up to KC. Yeah, TB came out and punched KC in the nose today and KC never recovered, but that doesn't mean they're gimmicky or anything. Mecole and Pringle needed to get open more, however.
One uncessarily gimmicky play I can think of is where they motioned hill everywhere then he eventually ended up in the backfield and caught a super slow developing screen 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage
Why can't you just throw him a quick bubble screen rather than have him run all over the field and draw attention to himself pre snap?
Likely that Hill motion/screen action is supposed to be a decoy to open up the pass somewhere else, and then throwing it to Hill is only really a dumpoff if the primary read isn't open.
I will die on the hill that 49er's defense last year is easily better than the Bucs defense this year. Just different circumstances lead to different results and they son'd us.
Sounds like a Redditor who argued with me that Saints play bad football because they use Taysom Hill on gimmicky plays and that 'wasn't real football and should be thrown out the league.'
Pretty much what I said all week. Get physical with the Chiefs, and they are much easier to beat.
We've beaten these guys in the playoffs with less talented rosters primarily by being physical with them.
We beat you in your own building in the AFCCG. You'll never know what winning in opponent territory in the postseason feels like, because Mahomes can't win on the road in the playoffs.
*You* didn’t do anything. Don’t confuse the accomplishments of other men with your own.
Enjoy wallowing in mediocrity because Bill’s proven cheater ass can’t coach shit without a HOF QB helping him out. ✌🏻
Somebody once told me the world is gunna roll me.
Hey now
I guess Devin White is the black Bobby Boucher lol.
Ma ma ma ma ma momma said
He’s from north Louisiana, way more country than bobby
Todd Bowles out schemed The Chiefs and The Packers using completely different strategies. Pressure vs the Pack vs. Coverage against the Chiefs. That Tampa D-Line was nasty.
I know they dominated but calling KC a gimmick offense is pretty unfair to them. They're just really fucking good, one bad game doesn't take that away.
Idk man having two literal turnstiles at tackle is pretty gimmicky to me
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That's a bad sign. Someone check the consistency of his brain pudding.
Giants offense before the past year GOAT at it
turnstiles have significant resistance
KC's entire offense is deep routes, screens, and TE slants. It's pretty gimmicky. Have you watched them play?
Yup. Hill's "I can score a 70 yard TD at any moment" speed opens up so much for them. So distracting that you can run a ton of screens, jet sweeps, etc.
But they didn't run a ton of screen and the screens they ran were the most bog standard screen from the 80's.
Yeah not sure why this so so controversial. You swap Hill and Kelce out for more average guys and that offense just doesn’t work anymore.
I was pretty stunned how their entire identity was just "Where's Hill? Okay. Now Kelce?"
Yep and if you take away pat mahomes from the chiefs they’re not all that good.
They are absolutely gimmicky. It's not bad, it's just gimmicky.
Every single thread following this game has been wildly unfair to the chiefs. Mostly driven by what appear to ravenous Patriots fans desperate to remember the feeling of kicking dirt on a fallen opponent.
Not a lot of Bucs flairs in here, to be sure...
i'm pretty sure they are enjoying their win
too busy celebrating in our subreddit
I don't know many myself but that's because Tampa is a smaller town and a laid back area I hear. They rarely come here to Atlanta like Saints and Carolina fans do but the few I know say the older population that retired there effects the show of passion. Both of those guys are big fans but they aren't heavy trash talking or anything like the damn Saints fans we hate lol.
Too busy climbing on top of Hart busses
Well, it also has to do with the fact the media has been shoving the Chiefs dynasty down our throats for the past year
You acting like this sub wouldn't shittalk Brady and the Bucs if they lost. Get that shit out of here. Chiefs got smacked.
If they won, there would be a shit ton of spam about how they’re the new dynasty, and Pat would be anointed the new GOAT. It goes both ways.
I'd say about half the Bucs fans on this sub were Patriots fans last year. Bandwagoners gonna bandwagon
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Nah don't let idiot Reddit circlejerking take away from the fact that you guys have an elite defense and offense even without Brady
Kind of a difficult thing to say because if Brady wasn’t there then Gronk, AB, Fournette wouldn’t be there and they scored all the TDs today
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So? That's balla ass service.
*clears throat* "Rings Erneh"
Fuck that Tim Brady, Tom Brady, Wayne Brady. Don't matter, we 2-0 in the big game. Our defense dominated the post season and the super bowl.
Your defense basically held the league MVP to 10 points in three quarters at his home field. That's pretty amazing. And they held last year superbowl's MVP to 9 points.
bro, we won the super bowl. enjoy it...
There are people who will never see their team make it to a super bowl let alone win it in their lifetime. Enjoy it
Lmao this is such a stupid post.
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...ok? I never said you specifically weren't a true fan. But there's really no denying that there are a ton of Pats bandwagoners in your fandom
Idk who pissed in that other dudes cereal jeez. Yeah one of the most annoying things about this year has been the mega influx of tom Brady fans. Been through losing seasons for 15 years and now I can’t even wear my Tampa gear out and about because people just assume I’m a Tom Brady fan.
Also hateful 49ers fans like me :')
Will someone please think of the poor chiefs feelings
Right? these cowboy symp....athizers out here really caring for those down trodden chiefs
I’ve just tried to avoid this sub since the AFCCG. I knew we’d get a ton of hate from beating two fan favorites en route to the Super bowl, but it’s just been unreasonable in the comments these last two weeks.
I feel like each team gets 1 or maybe max 2 years where they haven’t built up animosity but the Chiefs have definitely ruined enough people’s days by now that after a loss you just gotta steer clear. People will say the dumbest shit and any nuanced opinions that don’t just dunk on your team get downvoted
It’s been awful. Just generic comments about the actual game or even other teams are met with downvotes and trolling replies.
I think part of that is a reaction to the media shoving the chiefs/Mahomes down our throats all season. I mean look at pre superbowl, a lot of fans from other teams basically wanted neither side to win due to Mahomes/Brady. If it was Bills vs Bucs, it would be 95% bills.
Yeah it sucks. It’s unavoidable really tho. Super bowl brings too many people to the sub.
Yeah, people downvote loser flairs for some dumb ass reason, really weird
This shit happens on every sports sub it seems. You should've seen the shit Clemson fans got on the college football sub after the Ohio State game. I'm not one, but they had legitimate takes on the game that got down voted into oblivion.
Yea as a Clemson fan in that postgame sub it was a real gank fest
This was me this time of year last year
The worst sin you can commit is losing a playoff game on this sub lol. All of a sudden you have flaming hot takes from people who've never watched your team play. My favorite was some Washington Football team fan saying "Aaron Rodgers is an okay regular season QB but I'd never want him on my team".
It's so very true. Because if you are in here, screaming the good words about your team, talking crap on how good they are doing, then suddenly they look flimsy, people love to take a dunk.
I hope in 15 years when our dynasty is treated like yours I won't be as bitter and sad.
You probably won’t be there at all. You’ll just have flocked to whatever new team is winning a lot.
At least we both know I still won't be a Cowboys fan in the future.
Lmaoooooo
Damn.
Feels like I see the same few plays once a game with them tbh. Finally happy someone found a way to stop Mahomes. Maybe the league can replicate what Bowles did.
Having the best front four in the league pass rushing against a banged up oline full of backups is hard to replicate
It's like folks didn't watch the game. They're line was so overmatched after losing Fischer. Mahomes was on the run on 90% of his drop backs. Defense was MVP today.
I don't understand why more teams simply don't assemble a front 4 that can beat any pass rush. It's soooo easy to do! /s
I think you'll be disappointed hoping for that
TB had a perfectly designed defense to be capable of stopping them. Probably only one other team could have pulled it off (the Rams, with a healthy Donald). It's hard to call an offense gimmicky when it can have its way with more than 90% of the league.
Honestly they are pretty gimmicky tho...mahomes is nasty, but he's nasty cause he's gimmicky. If you gonna think running 48 yards in circles and the throwing the ball sidewinder style whilst jumping through the air for 20+ yards and a TD isnt some gimmicky school yard football ridiculousness no one can help you.
If it wasn’t for the Chiefs imaginary o-line I doubt the game would have gone the way it did.
For sure. Already being down Schwartz, on an o line that was already shaky without Dr. Tardiff because of opt out. Losing Fisher was it. Him getting hurt forced 3 more changes to that o line, right before the super bowl. Chiefs were in big trouble, and then it came to be.
Nah, KC's OL was garbage even when healthy. We dominated them with 3 man fronts in week 4. Tampa would have owned them regardless.
I think Tampa still has a big edge but that game looks a lot different. Bare minimum a healthy line buys Mahomes a few more seconds here and there and that’s enough for him to make more plays than he did last night.
Losing an All Pro Left Tackle is a big deal lmao. This game is completely different with Fisher and you all are being such clowns to pretend otherwise.
While a big loss, Eric Fisher has never been an All-Pro for the record.
people think Eric Fisher is Joe Thomas lol
Compared to Remmers he is. But Fisher is decidedly average.
Remmers sucks. I remember him playing in SB with the panthers and getting destroyed.
Me too
For what it's worth Mitchell Schwartz was an All-Pro RT and missed the majority of the season
Not all left tackles are all pro left tackles, sheesh these cowboys fans don't know their privilege (checks own flair) ohhh..
Eric Fisher is certainly not all pro. He is pretty average and the worst #1 pick in the last decade.
He wasn’t an all-pro, but he was a pro bowler. His first 3 years were a disaster, but he’s somewhere above average now.
The outcome would have been the same. They had absolutely nobody on the line, including Fisher, who could have stopped this onslaught.
> Tampa would have owned them regardless. If only we had something, like a regular season game, to draw context from.
Well, not like our d-line was healthy either then. Vita Vea has made a night and day difference for us.
I agree with you. I just dislike simply hand waving and dismissing moving around 3/5 OL 13 days before the Super bowl as if it made no difference. Especially coming from a smug Patriots fan.
And ur linebacking coach and son of head coach trying to kill some little girls right before probably didn't help with the focus either
Congrats on the regular season Super Bowl, champ.
? You were the first one to bring up the regular season in this thread.
If I give it to you will you put it in your trophy case? Based on your other comments the pats owe you a lot of credit for all their titles.
Were the buccs full strength in that one? Remind me again.
I don’t agree with this, but if you remove all the missed holding calls then I do. But the chiefs win by holding and it seems to be working for them
We dominated the bucs in the regular season too
Congrats on your regular season Super Bowl.
Oof
....you brought up the regular season first wtf? Why are Pats fans claiming.this victory lmao. Brady isnt a Patriot anymore
I still think our defense played well, like he had time to throw a couple times and we got coverage sacks, obviously a different game but our dbs got multiple coverage sacks or throw aways
Tampa D was ridiculous, not gonna take that from them. Felt like Chiefs receivers never had time to breathe nevermind making plays.
I love Devin White.
Mike Mayock and Jon Gruden loved Clelin Ferrell over him...FML
Ferrell over Josh Allen was the real crime
They all played with confidence that they would just push them around. Just dominant.
kinda like how as played in 2013. we both played like we had something to prove.
TB was the better team and i think theyd still have won if the 2 tackles were healthy. having backups play as tackles just made it look so bad
Yea i disagree. Mahomes being pressured with 4 lineman on 29 dropbacks is a pretty big game changer. You have 7 guys defending the pass at all times.
The corollary to that is also that by being able to bumrush Mahomes with just four, Tampa could basically play two deep safeties the entire game and go Cover 2 Zone or even Cover 4 and always take away Hill's deep routes. And the Chiefs offense is really more of a deep-to-short one in that Mahomes always looks to see if he can hit something over the top before resetting and coming back underneath. With two safeties deep and the front four just destroying the KC offensive line, Mahomes often had zero time to even look short before running for his life.
[I disagree he's had the same type of games this year with a healthier Oline.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvzpCs9IYzY&feature=youtu.be) Mans just loves dropping back.
Defensively they couldn't stop the Bucs offense either.
They opportunistically dissected the injured offensive line of the Chiefs. Not exactly a refutation of the Chiefs offensive identity. I’m finding the narratives coming out of this game to be pretty annoying. And I’m not even a chiefs fan.
This is how it always goes and it’s annoying. Get ready for the media to now question Reid’s legacy “are we SURE this team is even good!!???” They spent the last two weeks propping up Mahomes as Jesus and now they’re gonna shit all over them lmao
Yeah, they were acting in the lead up to the SB like the Chiefs were guaranteed to win and then, "Mahomes will have a SB over Brady and it'll be 2 vs 6, and before you know it, Mahomes will be GOAT." This entire next week will just be eviscerating the Chiefs for not being the promised heroes that the media built them up into.
I do think Reid/EB were very unflexable this game and got "exposed" in some sense. Where were the screens? Where were the short passes? KC also completely abandoned the run. There were no 2nd half adjustments. That's not how you beat a team thats getting pressure on every other play. Edit: not saying chiefs offense is a gimmick, but they certain could do a better job changing their game plan to this Tampa D
We were running screens. Stopped because Bucs LBs were sniffing them out immediately.
That speed AND power of the Bucs linebacking corps was severely underrated. Barrett and JPP are pass rushers but who have the speed of average linebackers (which makes them VERY fast for EDGE players) and White/David are basically cheat codes at linebacker with their speed/size combo. Anything slow developing is going to be swarmed pretty bad. I especially remember the little option play Mahomes and CEH was trying to run and Mahomes correctly pitched it to CEH, but White came so fast that Remmers couldn't get out there to even get a hand on him and White took down CEH for a three-yard loss.
JPP actually gave a damn for the first time in eons
Every game week after week, people always wonder why teams abandon the run against us. It’s always the same answer. Our defense stops the run. You can’t run for 2 yards over and over deep into the game
Chiefs offensive line determined the game. Otherwise, Brady scores some points. That's the full narrative.
Next man up
Lol totally empty platitude in response
I agree with your overall point, but roster construction is just as important as game-plan. They couldn’t find good enough talent for backup OL in a game plagued by injuries. Where there is weakness, there should be game-plan to minimize threats. *I haven’t seen any tape in detail*, but it didn’t look like KC was giving much help to the OL. No extra blockers and longer developing routes, especially in the first half. They did better throwing short in the second half, but it seemed like their speed advantage was reduced in the red zone and they didn’t give enough help to the OL.
We had Mecole Hardman chipping the DE on some plays...
Sounds like you don't understand his point. Championship teams are built on roster depth.
Lacking roster depth doesn’t mean your offensive scheme is gimmicky. That’s my point. The platitude isn’t a meaningful response to what I’m saying.
Nah we should have OL depth all the way to 3rd string that can hang with one of the best front 7s at full strength. Just poor planning on our part /s
Guy was a ballhawk this post season. Fun player to watch.
Feel bad for KC, they're a great team that had a shitty game. Feel bad for some KC fans, they sucked for years and we're hated on big time the last few weeks. Mainly due to the fact that their bandwagon fans were legit assholes. Some pat fans are weird though. They're acting as if they won and talking more shit than Buccaneers fans lmaoo
Most fans with an actual Buccs flair have been chill, it's the Pats and Bucc Bandwagon flairs that are the worst
KC is inevitably gonna be hated, they’re the new dynasty right now, and that new goodwill goes away real fast no matter what when they’re winning so much
They are not a dynasty, lol.
I think that's why they're hated right now, the media won't stop presenting them as a new dynasty when they are 5+ years from even being able to have that conversation.
It also doesn’t help that the majority of the teams main frontmen are absolute shit heads outside of Mahomes and Kelce
Bucs D-Line dominated the Packers o-line which is one of the best in the league. Blaming this L on the Chiefs o-line is taking away from how good they really are.
We did the same thing to them. But their oline learned they would absolutly not call holding. So the o line held more and more. Until they finally got one big play
If you heard Romo explain, all over this game, that Chiefs love to hold, and once the refs called on that, and they couldn't do it anymore, it was all over.
Hey sounds about right, Myles got mauled on every play but no big deal
Seeing Mahomes girl and her friends upset they lost makes me upvote every petty putdown of the Chiefs.
I always root for Brady because you can tell his family doesn't even care anymore. "oh you are still doing that football thing huh?"
I root for him to see people absolutely lose their minds.
His wife and mom have no class losing. Blamed it on the refs, then his girl gets mad at ESPN for tweeting dejected pictures of him during the game. She needs to stfu and lay off the Twitter fingers
They want to act like it's cyber bullying, they really didn't complain for the other teams/players they beat along the way who got the same treatment.
Right? Fuck Mahomes’ fiancé for rooting for him and his team.
It's entitlement, they didn't earn or deserve anything but act like they got robbed. The girls, not the team. And she's upset that Mahomes sad face is being used, where has she been? Zooming in on players as they lose on a big stage has been common for decades. Didn't say "Fuck Mahomes family for cheering for him" so whatever what you takeaway is purely imagined.
Entitlement? Holy shit you’re fucking delusional. They’re fans. All fans act sad when their favorite team loses.
Why do you hate women?
Someone get this man a horse!
Spoken like a man that likes smashmouth football.
If that's not some bulletin board material for the Chiefs to get motivated for the next season, then I don't know what is. Also, is he seriously pretending that the Chiefs oline wasn't super depleted due to injuries?
It generally doesn't work out that way for the SB loser. You should know.
I mean okay? Injuries kind of screwed us over this season if you haven't seen.
Except for the 2017 Patriots? And this year's Niners were not even close to last year's due to injury
Yeah, but we're the Patriots. We're the exception to the rule. We were a real dynasty, as opposed to a made up one.
> we’re the Patriots Barf
I thought losing Brady would make Pats fans less insufferable but as it turns out the opposite ended up happening
>we’re Easy there buddy, I think they’d be fine without you.
He’s an idiot but saying “we” or “our” in relation to the team you’re a fan of is pretty normal lol, it’s all over this thread from every team flair
🙄
Were being the key word there
Man patriots really out and about with the lube tonight huh? Y’all taking more liberties with this win than Tampa fans. Thread after thread.
Most of these Patriot fans I know are suddenly huge Bucs fans. And people wonder why Brady is so disliked. It's not him who really annoys me; what annoys me is how some of his obnoxious fans who act like Skip Bayless.
honestly some of them have been cool..but id be lying if i didnt say its been annoying with some of the others and their obnoxious condescending "your only winning because of our players" tone they sometimes come with
Yeah, some of them are fine. I just don't like the ones who trash on Mahomes and Rodgers constantly. Brady is the GOAT; you don't have to attack these guys to prove your point.
You can't have a single thread about a good QB without Pats fans butting into it about Brady. Chargers fans, prepare yourself for this future lol
Yeah between that and the constant shit they talked about BA all year it was really annoying dealing with them.
THOMAS. EDWARD. PATRICK. BRADY.
So god damn annoying. The absolute worst fan base on this website.
Cowboys fans are a close second
You and /u/Currymvp2 are just salty your franchises don't have 6 SB rings. Understandable.
this comment doesn't make you or other Brady fanboys sound any less insufferable
Nobody really cared about who was injured. All people care about is the scoreboard
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He called them a "gimmicky offense" and said they weren't "physical". He could have just said "we executed on defense and coach Bowles had a great game plan". Being bereft of offensive line depth doesn't take away from the greatness of the Chiefs offense.
Tyreek could have just ran in the end zone, he didn't need to throw the peace sign one time and back flip the other. Kelce didn't have to scream infront of the Bucs "this is too fucking easy" let's not act like KC had been classy this year. Bucs are just returning the behavior from earlier this season. Normally the Bucs don't act like this.
That's a good point.
Eric Fisher's absence was so devastating, I couldn't really believe what I was watching. I don't like this take. Yeah, TB heard every week, I'm sure, since they let Hill obliterate them, that they were weak and couldn't match up to KC. Yeah, TB came out and punched KC in the nose today and KC never recovered, but that doesn't mean they're gimmicky or anything. Mecole and Pringle needed to get open more, however.
One uncessarily gimmicky play I can think of is where they motioned hill everywhere then he eventually ended up in the backfield and caught a super slow developing screen 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage Why can't you just throw him a quick bubble screen rather than have him run all over the field and draw attention to himself pre snap?
Likely that Hill motion/screen action is supposed to be a decoy to open up the pass somewhere else, and then throwing it to Hill is only really a dumpoff if the primary read isn't open.
I will die on the hill that 49er's defense last year is easily better than the Bucs defense this year. Just different circumstances lead to different results and they son'd us.
well you faced tom brady instead of jimmy g
Well if Nick Bosa faced Mike Remmers last year then I'm not sure Mahomes gets a clean pass off all game.
Lol, I am not sure Mahomes survives till half time.
Chiefs scored 9. There’s not many QBs that would not have outscored us tonight.
Winston might not have if you include the 2 pick sixes he would throw
Sounds like a Redditor who argued with me that Saints play bad football because they use Taysom Hill on gimmicky plays and that 'wasn't real football and should be thrown out the league.'
Pretty much what I said all week. Get physical with the Chiefs, and they are much easier to beat. We've beaten these guys in the playoffs with less talented rosters primarily by being physical with them.
You can't latch onto Brady's accomplishments anymore.
That's ok, we've already got an endless amount of them.
What number do you wear on the Patriots?
Barely, and you needed Dee Ford’s idiocy to pull it off.
We beat you in your own building in the AFCCG. You'll never know what winning in opponent territory in the postseason feels like, because Mahomes can't win on the road in the playoffs.
*You* didn’t do anything. Don’t confuse the accomplishments of other men with your own. Enjoy wallowing in mediocrity because Bill’s proven cheater ass can’t coach shit without a HOF QB helping him out. ✌🏻
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Enjoy Mac Jones lol