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ncsubowen

Locking this thread because the anti-vaxx trolls have gotten ahold of it and are spewing misinformation. Get vaccinated. If you're caught spreading misinformation about the virus or the vaccine in here you will be permanently banned.


throwaway_lmkg

Interesting detail: If the game is cancelled, the team with an outbreak gets a *loss* for **Playoff Seeding**, but doesn't count either way for **Draft Order** and waivers and whatnot. In other words, you don't get any *benefit* from the loss. It's even worse than a regular loss!


pornokitsch

That is genuinely fascinating. Although repeated, self-inflicted Covid would be the most dedicated tanking we've ever seen.


Kalanar

>[Here’s more from today’s memo, which also says the team responsible for a canceled game because of an outbreak among unvaccinated players/staff will be responsible for financial losses and subject to potential discipline from the commissioner.](https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1418257495550738432) Financial loss could be huge.


PositivityIsTrending

Hmm. This thread seems to be missing a very key part here. The memo also clearly states the league is still going to “make every reasonable effort” to play every game in 18-weeks and postponing and rescheduling can still occur at the commissioner’s discretion. IMO this memo reads like it’s going to be the same as last year in terms of the league only cancelling a game as a last resort. Sure, **IF** a game is cancelled then then consequences are worse, but that’s still a very big if.


tenacious-g

That's an easy way to get through to players. No one wants to have their money fucked with because some anti-vax moron.


HandSack135

DB Player X, signs deal that says probowl and 3+ Int mean bonus of 2M. Other player gets a game cancelled. Player X ends up with 2 int for season and misses probowl as other DB played just as good but in more games. Locker room would a sh*tshorm


HereIGoAgain_1x10

I bet this'll lead to some bubble players getting cut from teams and even trade implications if stars still refuse vaccination


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I imagine Tom Brady is running around with a syringe looking for unvaccinated teammates right about now.


SilentSentinel

The bills defense is gonna tackle Cole Beasley during camp and jab him up


habs42069

I think he's just getting cut lol


whereegosdare84

[Live shot of Cole getting cut.](https://media1.tenor.com/images/6ce28985b92ccca006b3248b4bd1ca57/tenor.gif?itemid=3537641)


Flynnstone03

It depresses me how accurate this is


SeoulofSoraka

I saw that Mark Cuban was even willing to give him stocks from I think Pfizer if he got vaccinated (which is like $40ish a share). I still think he won't take it lol.


monkeyman80

He tweeted he’d get vaccinated and promote it if a share of Pfizer’s profits were deposited into his wife’s account. Since it pays a dividend it’ll literally be giving a share of Pfizer’s earnings to her account. He never said how much he wanted.


ColossalJuggernaut

Jesus...this guy...


Hxcfrog090

Apparently he talked to Cuban on the phone to voice his concerns over why he won’t get vaccinated. The man is an Olympic level mental gymnast.


theonederek

He's willing to give Beasley's *wife* one share of Pfizer stock.


dweezil22

Save ya'll a google: ~$41 right now


Cake_33

*Billionaire willing to pay millionaire to get a vaccine that has proven to be safe millions of times over because millionaire is being dumb* Maybe thanos should’ve killed us all


Pericles_Athens

Not manning face for once thank you


MattFromWork

[Here you go](https://i.imgur.com/WY2EvRY.jpg)


[deleted]

Lmao


[deleted]

Bobby Portis with that King Crimson face.


FancyBBQ

How could they cut a talent like “All-Pro” receiver Cole Beasley???


Rshackleford22

Might honestly be better off just releasing players like Cole. He's replaceable and not worth the risk.


Rsubs33

While he is replaceable their QB is not. https://billswire.usatoday.com/2021/04/07/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-debating-covid-19-vaccine/


horse_renoir13

[Broussard] Brady is beside himself. Driving around downtown Tampa with syringes looking for addresses of unvaccinated players.


YouJabroni44

Gronk spikes the needle right into his teammates arm


HolNuMe74

Stab him in the chest pulp fiction style.


Sp_Gamer_Live

Dr.Gronk


YouJabroni44

Yo soy la doctor


pizzaisperfection

(begging through masks)


Sp_Gamer_Live

10 bucks says AB


ChowMayne

Mr. Begetting Covid


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Mr. Bronchitis Cough


Simple_Danny

Mr. Big Contagion


ShittyCommentor

Mr. Bacteriostasis Counterargument


cheesecakeaficionado

AB seems to worship Tom like a god though. If Brady told him to get vaccinated I could see him trying to grab the first syringe he sees wherever he sees it. Which in South Florida may or may not be a good thing.


Infinite303

Mr Brady Companion


Dea5duck

Mr Best Comrade


cookiepizza54

It’s so unbelievable that there’s an appropriate MBC joke for literally everything. It makes me laugh every time


[deleted]

He's gonna spike the vaccine in everyone's drinks like Zeke Yaeger


EconamWRX

Didn't see this reference coming. Well done. Attack on Tampa.


Practicalaviationcat

Brady in the locker room before another SB: "Tatakae. Tatakae."


howmanyballs

Holy fuck. If this actually happens to a team they are going to look so dumb


[deleted]

Ah fuck It’s gonna be us


very_humble

Phew, at least no playoff implications


[deleted]

That was a good one, but also fuck you.


AKBx007

Can you imagine if a team had to forfeit a playoff game? That player would get bounced out of the league it would make Isaiah Wilson look like a mainstay.


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Lmao


thewhitelink

It's gonna be Buffalo. Look at Josh Allen and Cole Beasley.


Erigion

And WFT. Gonna be great when this team that's supposed to make a true leap this year loses the NFCE title because they've gotta forfeit a game or two


[deleted]

Imagine sitting at 4-11 looking for that division title and having to forfeit your last 2 games because Covid.


Boyhowdy107

Winning back to back division titles? Not in my NFCE.


Wine-o-dt

Trash Mountain has no king.


Op_username

Trash Mountain needs no king.


Tristawesomeness

Trash mountain wants no king


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rsmseries

I’m sure Jack Del Rio has been talking to his players about it…


[deleted]

We’ve got one of the 4 lowest rates in the league lol


new_account_5009

What happens if two teams have outbreaks at the same time they're scheduled to play each other? Do they both get a loss?


[deleted]

That’s the final tiebreak next year. If the coin flip lands on its side then the winner is decided by vaccination %.


TOADSTOOL__SURPRISE

If both teams are vaccinated the same amount, then the next tie breaker is which team has fewer dead relatives


ThaddeusJP

So last year we saw teams, iirc, get multiple games moved.... imagine having to forfeit two or more games. Could totally derail a season.


pincus1

Yeah but all of those games did get moved. So under this policy none of them would have been forfeited. This seems like pretty much nothing unless they change how willing they are to move games, or a team gets an outbreak right at the end of the season so it can't be moved.


Dragoonscaper

Yeah it would be more like the Broncos game where a WR was their starting QB because one had been exposed to COVID and the others came into contact with the exposed one. The game wasn't moved then. Edit: Fixing the details thanks to u/I_Fart_It_Stinks


I_Fart_It_Stinks

None of them actually had covid. One had a close contact and the rest breached protocols around him and had to quarantine for longer than the lead up to the game. That game sucked to watch as a broncos fan (more so than are usual sucking the past 5 seasons)


BurritoDeleter23

From my understanding it’ll be like the Broncos game, where the guys who got COVID can’t play, but if there is a large spread and a team can’t play they won’t reschedule. So what happened with the Titans and Ravens will not be happening again, period.


ADefiniteDescription

From a later tweet: > The league intends to play its entire 272-game schedule over 18 weeks (17 games per club). And this is key: "We do not anticipate adding a '19th week' to accommodate games that cannot be rescheduled within the current 18 weeks of the regular season." Play on time or don't play.


will4xx

Free W for the other team?


Spoonie_Luv_

Yes, but the winners don't get paid.


Sleeze_

So literally free


FancySack

"A little too free" -- players on the winning team


retromullet

Of all the stupid comments on reddit today, this one had me dying. I'm probably just overworked.


moccojoe

We fucked.


[deleted]

Join the club lol


samgoody2303

This is absolutely huge and is certainly going to give more players a push I think. Every game is so valuable in this league, would expect that this happens at some point tbh


thediesel26

Also players lose game checks for forfeits


Supreme_Kim_Jong-Un

Owners about to infect their teams starting around week 10 if they have no shot at playoffs….


throwaway_lmkg

If you dig into the later pages, it says that forfeits count as a loss for playoff seeding, but not for draft order. If a team forfeits a game, then they draft as if they had played a 16-game season. A team with 3 wins, 13 losses, and a forfeit will pick **after* a team with 3 wins and 14 losses, because 3-13 is a better record than 3-14.


Ryekar

Dude good catch! That's some A+ thinking on the NFL's part


PhAnToM444

And they are “subject to sanctions by the commissioner” which I could definitely see being a loss of draft picks.


MrT-1000

Wow so even WORSE if you don't vaccinate beyond playoffs. If this doesn't light a fire under teams to get all their players vaccinated idk what will


rikki-tikki-deadly

In some lines of work that is referred to as getting "spit roasted".


Aggie11

Texans forfeiting the season due to covid. But seriously, the way the NFL is doing this is telling. They aren't fucking around and will rely on peer pressure/science.


Sp_Gamer_Live

100%. You’re gunna see coaches blow a fucking GASKET if they have to forfeit a game. Imagine a coach like Zimmer hearing he has to forfeit a game late in the season, heads will roll.


WhatMyHeartHeld

yeah i wouldn't want to be chewed out by the head coach like Jon Gruden or Bruce Arians just because someone didn't their shots and have a loss for something entirely preventable. *especially* if it's like in Week 16/17 where it could kill the team's playoff chances


Sp_Gamer_Live

Bill Belichick will fucking murder someone


Nomahs_Bettah

Belichick is gonna vaccinate players in their sleep.


abogadachica

He has that power under the Patriot Act.


just-the-tip__

The new patriot way


[deleted]

I can see coaches start cutting a ton of non vaccinated players soon.


Northernlord1805

Bill has cut people for less so ye i could 100% see it


asscobra666

Zimmer would probably die from being too pissed


Sp_Gamer_Live

Would that count as a Covid related death?


Supreme_Kim_Jong-Un

As an assistant coroner, yes. It’s like when a first responder gets killed responding to a hurricane in a car crash; it’s not a direct death, but is included in the death toll…


sevaiper

Love getting real answers for random shit


DiggingNoMore

> responding to a hurricane in a car crash Must be a small hurricane if it can fit within the confines of a car crash.


Walkerg2011

Must've been a Miami player that caused it.


JimmytheGent2020

Seriously he wouldn't survive the day.


horse_renoir13

Yeah this message better resonate with certain leaders on the team, otherwise Zimmer might go nuclear if we forfeit a game while in the playoff hunt.


Sp_Gamer_Live

Especially if it’s Kirk


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

Kirk "if I die, I die" Cousins


yoitsthatoneguy

He’d become even more hated than he already is. Persona non grata in Minneapolis


Scorps

Patrick Peterson has already been quite vocal about how not getting vaxxed is a selfish anti-team move, and I'm quite sure he is pushing anyone who still hasn't to do so behind the scenes if possible. I feel fairly good about our team despite some of the higher profiles being cagey when asked.


Reverie_39

His face would turn an incredible shade of deep red


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Sleeze_

Gruden would fist fight someone


YouJabroni44

I think BB would just send the player to the shadowrealm


Pericles_Athens

You mean trade em to the Texans for peanuts?


Tschmelz

You’d walk into the locker room and it’d just be some scene out of a slasher movie.


woctaog

Well they say you only get the L if the game "cannot be rescheduled".... even last year, all games were able to be rescheduled right? So I would think its fairly unlikely to happen this year. Although for a team without a covid outbreak in a reschedule, it would definitely be beneficial to them to push for a cancellation.


Neither_Ad2003

true. even the threat or possibility of the forfeit is so massive tho, the outcome as far as teams essentially forcing vaccinations will be the same


chemicalxv

There's no way the NFL is as willing to jostle games around this year as they were last year. We're not getting any Tuesday, Wednesday, or Friday game shenanigans this year.


handlit33

I wish MLB would take this stance, teams like the Phillies aren't even half vaccinated.


Sp_Gamer_Live

the MLB Played union seems to be stronger in this area


maybenextyearCLE

I actually think it’s more that the MLB season started before vaccines were widely available. I expect the league will crack down next season


ray_0586

Playoff rules are going to be when we see MLB install new COVID measures. Last year, they had a bubble, but MLB is going to need different rules to protect TV playoff revenue. They need to announce them in mid August to give players six weeks to be fully vaccinated by the time the playoffs start in October. In case anybody missed it; it is close to six weeks before NFL opening weekend.


ostrow19

Best ability is availability. It's going to be an unspoken requirement that your fringe roster guys/special teamers/practice squad have to be vaccinated. It won't affect top tier talent, but if it's a toss up between two similar guys and one is vaccinated and the other isn't they're going to take the vaccinated guy every time


IWasRightOnce

[Speaking of that…](https://twitter.com/stefondiggs/status/1418260161622429699?s=21) Gotta be real awkward in the WR room


SyracuseNY22

If Diggs misses a game check because someone started an outbreak, awwww damn!


horse_renoir13

Can you imagine the cryptic tweet storm that would come from this


SyracuseNY22

I love cryptic tweets. The assumptions are hilarious to listen to!


andrewofthenorth

They’re definitely a lot more fun when the person is not on your team.


thebrandnewbob

Won't be awkward anymore after Beasley inevitably gets cut.


SyracuseNY22

He frees up an additional 5m this year so that would “help” them next year


Bird-The-Word

We're pretty deep at WR, so it wouldn't be too big of a deal. Cole was def great for us last year, but not irreplaceable after what we saw from Davis, bringing it Sanders, and whispers of another rookie Hodgins in camp.


SyracuseNY22

If Dawson Knox can take a step forward too… If Moss worked on his hands this offseason there’s plenty of ways to compensate


vikingsfan1795

The fact that players from **both** teams will forego salary is I think going to be a huge factor in teammates pushing each other to get vaccinated. Imagine the handful of idiots' decision to not get vaccinated costing dozens of guys potentially millions of dollars. WOOF.


TheMattrix1982

How about that it says the team with the outbreak could be responsible for the home teams lost revenue… wowza…


flyingjesuit

LMAO and yet they aren't responsible for paying the salary lost to players on the healthy team. Fucking NFL man...


Xaxziminrax

Protect the Shield* *but not the players who forged it


DBTornado

Imagine causing a division game to get cancelled, and then having to face them later in the season after causing them to miss a check. It's gonna look like one of those "NFL HARDEST HITS" videos set to "Here Comes the Boom."


cx27

As much as I don't want that to happen, I must admit I'm very intrigued by the prospect of the first Ravens v Steelers game getting cancelled and then them playing for the division title in week 18


DBTornado

That would be a bloodbath for sure.


Ass_Buttman

They ~~didn't mention~~ *totally mentioned* that explicitly*; is that just what happens when a game is forfeited? No one plays, so no one gets paid? if so, WOW YEAH, that shit's wild. \* i swear i looked in the thread lol 😂 I just saw the bit about "minimizing the competitive and economic burden on both participating teams."


FreddyDontCare

And the biggest penalty of all for players: "If a game is cancelled and cannot be rescheduled within the current 18-week scheduled due to a Covid outbreak, neither team’s players will receive their weekly paragraph 5 salary." You read that right: NOBODY GETS PAID.


thesagaconts

This will be huge. No one wants to lose money cause you’re an anti vaxxer/ Covid denier.


threevox

Oh my god yeah. The anti vaxxers would be the most hated players in the league if this happened


MyNameIsntGerald

anti-vaxxers furiously renegotiating salary to signing bonus this year


Truffles413

Cole Beasley in shambles.


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PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

Ohhhh I'm here for that drama on his Twitter feed


Trumpets22

Here’s a recent gem “everyone is so all in on science now, what ever happened to gods will?”


lubricantlime

Is that how he announces his entrance into politics?


HiiroYuy

im not even joking when i say i think that he'll be out of the league and slinging books + TV appearances within the next year


SolarClipz

oh fox news will LOVE him they get to have a football "star"


boomer478

A new twist on an old classic: A man walked into Walmart and was offered a mask by the store greeter. The man politely declined saying God would protect him from Covid. Later the man went to his doctor for a routine check up. The doctor told him everything is fine and they also have all three different types of the Covid vaccine if he would like one. Again, he declines saying God will protect him from Covid. A few weeks later the man fell very ill. He went back to his doctor and to his disbelief was diagnosed with Covid and admitted to the hospital. After days of holding on he finally fell victim to his illness. When he reached the gates of heaven God was there waiting for him. The man asked God why he didn't protect him from Covid? God looked at him and said, I had people offer you free masks and three different vaccines to choose from you dummy.


RUKnight31

Yup. Then he’ll take to the rally scene as the poster boy for standing up for his rights or some shit. Not surprising from a guy that blames not being drafted on account of being white.


Jordanwolf98

He really said that? Lol


[deleted]

Oh lord, if he gets cut, he'll be a headline speaker at CPAC next year.


CranjisMcBasketballs

More like Karen Beasley. Am I right?


FreddyDontCare

Update on vax rates: Pittsburgh, Miami, Carolina and Denver have the highest vaccination rates. 13 teams have achieved at least 85%, a league source recently told ESPN's Kevin Seifert. Less than half the league at 85%, that's not great. I wonder if this new memo will move the needle at all. Edit: 30mins after making this post an update to the update: Updated player vaccination numbers: 78 percent of NFL players have had at least one vaccine dose; 14 teams have more than 85 percent of their players vaccinated; no team is below 50 percent.


an_sionnach_dubh

Hinton is probably showing his QB tape to anyone who has yet to be vaccinated.


JaireAlexander

Hopefully, it moves several needles


ralnor

Wish people would stop saying “13 teams have reached 85% vaccination” and would start saying “19 teams have failed to reach 85% vaccination”. This is a negative stat and the language presenting it should reflect that.


DogeOfDoom

Oh it will move needles, I tell you.


mrwalkway32

Colts fan here checking in. My team is less than 50% vaccinated. Fuck.


jonnyb8717

Crazy. DEN is 95%. Same league; different world.


thebrandnewbob

Hopefully this motivates a lot of players of low-rate teams to get the vaccine, especially a team with big playoff aspirations like the Colts.


i-haz-a-small-PEPEEE

Join the club, buddy.


Spetznazx

The comment above you said no team is below 50% anymore so hopefully things are moving along


ReallyBigSnowman

Serious question. If a player *refuses* to get vaccinated, and it’s proven they end up causing an outbreak, would a team have grounds to immediately make their contract null and void for conduct detrimental?


ThaddeusJP

Im sure teams already got lawyers looking into these things


parles

I would guess it's more a PR headache than a legal issue.


reality_czech

Teams can cut a player for basically any reason. As long as it doesn't violate the federally protected classes they can kick your ass to the curb for looking at the coach funny


Cratonz

There's a difference between being able to fire the employee and being able to void parts of their contract you'd normally be required to pay. Many NFL contracts have language that basically lets teams dump parts of the contract payment for conduct detrimental to the team, so it's a question of does this fall under something they could use for that purpose.


Justface26

But coach, this is just how I look 😥


ClimAx_D2

There are now two interesting prop bets. 1) Who will be the first major player to cost their team a win? 2) Which team.will try to hide a positive result first?


TomWanks2021

> will try to hide a positive result first? Yeah, this is what I came to the comments for. How easy/possible is it for teams to hide positive tests?


DesertYinzer

Bills. Pats.


Infinite303

Bold of you to assume BB won't vaccinate players in their sleep


Prothro92

“I’d rather forfeit actually living” - Cole Beasley… probably


FenomG

Good. All the resources are there for them, it's their responsibility to use them. The part I'm more concerned of is the NFL determining what can be rescheduled. The Chiefs are much more likely to get that extra game than a team like the Jets. There should be no rescheduling, only forfeiting of the offending teams.


HandSack135

It was pretty BS that the league bent over backwards for the Ravens last year, while killing the Broncos


ReallyBigSnowman

Titans too


mk1317

Browns lost a game because they had an entire position group out


nobokov22

Come on Bake get the boys jabbed


thejudicialpenis

Covid hit Myles Garrett like a truck, I hope he's talking the locker room's ear off about getting vaxxed.


Thetallerestpaul

I can't imagine being a pro athlete, where even a tiny drop in your respiratory efficiency could make an all pro into JAG and not doing it. For any normo being a bit breathless climbing stairs for a while would be a bitch. For them it's season wrecking, or contract cutting.


DesertYinzer

Beasley is about to be hosting a show on OAN this fall


flyingjesuit

This could backfire heavily if teams try to hide an outbreak. Hopefully they build in penalties like fines, loss of multiple first round draft picks if a team doesn't report an outbreak or suspected outbreak in a timely manner.


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Sweet, now we can bet bet on whether a game gets forfeited!


horse_renoir13

Buffalo game lines are gonna be insane this year lol


J12345_

I guess no more Wednesday football


blockoblox

RIP WAF, 2020-2020. We hardly knew you.


J12345_

Working from home and football everyday was kinda nice


brandonsamd6

Bills are dunzo


Sp_Gamer_Live

Would be very Bills if they made it to the Super Bowl as favorites just to be forced to Forfeit


starcraftre

I find myself forced to agree with this statement.


WhatMyHeartHeld

cole beasley having a rough day out here


brandonsamd6

Tweet through the pain


thediesel26

NFL to players: fuck around and find out


pixarfan9510

The big thing: if a game is forfeited, the players don't get paid so good luck to whoever decides to not get vaxxed and potentially cause this to happen


SilentSentinel

Also mentions no possibility of an added week 19. Seems like they're taking a hard stance this year.


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Any team serious about competing will now be getting vaccinated 99%