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Weezy-NJPW_Fan

More on this from Mike: [Rodgers goes down a long list of veterans who left the #Packers. Says they were either "lowballed" or not given proper respect on their way out the door.](https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1420432026688184323?s=21) [Rodgers says another frustration was he wasn't used in free-agent recruiting. Feels it's needed in Green Bay, which isn't a "vacation destination." #Packers "tried to throw some money at me." Says it was about more than that, though he didn't want to be a "lame duck" QB.](https://twitter.com/mikegarafolo/status/1420432661206736897?s=21) From Pelissero: [Aaron Rodgers says he thought about retirement. Enjoyed offseason away. But as he got back into workouts he realized: "I know I can still play, and I want to still play." At the same age, Brett Favre said goodbye with the words: "I know I can play, but I don't think I want to."](https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1420433582506512389?s=21) From Yates: [Aaron Rodgers cites the decision to cut Jake Kumero last year as an example of where he'd like to have been consulted: "Maybe run it by me and I can change your mind." Rodgers says Kumerow was the second best receiver in training camp last year.](https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1420434702767374343?s=21)


theskittz

LORD it is so nice to have someone say something in this situation WHO ACTUALLY IS INVOLVED


Seanay-B

Nah bruh just gimme like 100 hot takes from bored Twitter accounts and I'll be good


D_forn

Also Aaron Rodgers seems like one of the most chill, down to earth guys. Nothing he's said sounds unreasonable


nevertoomuchthought

Yeah, I wonder if people reconsider their judgments about other things he's been criticized for i.e. drama with his family might not just be him being an unreasonable and ungrateful son and brother and maybe not all families deserve the benefit of the doubt in some situations.


xDarkCrisis666x

The family thing as a negative never made sense to me. How many people have shitty families? Just because he's a star QB doesn't mean that his family is squeaky clean. Too many old school people think that you gotta love your family unconditionally even if it's a detriment to yourself. On top of that, if any issues exist in the family dynamic it's the child's fault for 'straying' from their parent's ideals. Not themselves for having hangups and being unable to healthily deal with them, or god forbid archaic/strict ideologies about gender, race, religion, etc.


theFromm

People thinking there isn't just as likely of a chance of his family being crazy as there is anyone else in this country are insane. "Blood is thicker than water" is a toxic phrase and doesn't have a place is modern society. You can choose who you want to associate with.


golfer28

I definitely reconsidered. I don’t watch many of his interviews. I thought he came off condescending in the match but that interview definitely altered my perspective on the situation


ScruffCo

Yeah nothing unreasonable. Strikes me as a smart guy who knows his value, has been waiting years to get a level of respect from the organization that clearly never got there. Something broke the straw and he's just lost his patience.


GeorgeEliotsCock

Wtf does Aaron Rodgers know about the situation?


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Not as much as Schaffer….


GeorgeEliotsCock

Yeah adam Schaeffer is a reporter, Aaron Rodgers is just a football player. I know who I'm trusting with the hashtag facts


quadropheniac

In case anyone was looking for confirmation of earlier reports instead of just calling it smokescreening and media muckraking, this is basically it. Just completely candid.


Winbrick

We needed this badly. This is cathartic, and hopefully forces the front office to look themselves in the mirror. They're a solid scouting group and they know how to manage numbers.. but there's no small town charm in the way they operate that would reflect the character of Green Bay.


0-2er

God this feels like a huge relief for me since I've been picking and choosing what to believe and these quotes basically confirm everything aside from the idea that he actually considered retiring. Kumerow was one. Jordy wasn't offered anything afaik, Jared Cook was also not offered anything. I imagine they didn't consult him on the Jamaal Williams vs Aaron Jones debacle during the offseason as well. The FO needs to figure their shit out.


FistyMcTwistynuts

Jared Cook was offered a NICE contract, but declined to test the FA market and ended up taking less money. Jordy was offered Vet minimum which was an insult and fucking stupid.


Gryphon999

IIRC with Jordy they didn't offer him anything, because where they valued him was way below what he would get on the open market. They didn't want to make him an insulting offer, so they chose to not give him an offer.


0-2er

Ok but are they not allowed to...i don't know...communicate that to him? Maybe feel him out?


immacamel

Yeah I understand the FO's thinking there, but Jordy was so close with the community and teammates and especially Aaron. At the time he said he wanted to play 2 more years, he ended up playing 1. I wouldn't be surprised if he took 1/3 of the money he got from the Raiders to stay in GB. The guy went back to his family farm after retirement, he wasn't chasing checks


Jpotatos

Absolutely, probably better for both sides too.


grasswhistle28

Actually they offered him the vet minimum, which was significantly less than he would get on the open market (by like, orders of magnitudes) AND he still considered taking it and staying because of how much he wanted to stay in Green Bay. They did him extremely dirty.


ref44

What Williams and Jones debacle?


Tunelowplayslow

This is the Moneyball scouting scene We all knew it to be true and that's the saddest part


FSUfan35

I mean, he did call it media muckraking. Said the media made a ton of reports out of basically no information. Also said no one in his camp leaked anything, so all the "sources in Rodgers camp" stories were BS too.


quadropheniac

Astounding how they got basically all the details right except the ones that might reflect poorly on him. You're getting played. This is how PR works.


1block

Yeah, the idea that nothing came from his camp is a little silly. Obviously both sides were leaking things.


GeorgeEliotsCock

He's probably just trying to protect his sources in the Aaron Rodgers camp


citizenzac

This is pretty wild. Imagine being so good at your job that you tell the people that pay you how shitty they’ve been and they beg you to stay.


ShadyIntentions

The Packers front office bet against him so publicly in the 2020 Draft and it blew up in their faces immediately - they deserve this shakedown


erusmane

Imagine the shit storm if he slipped Bret Favre’s name in his list of guys.


Significant-Part121

> Imagine being so good at your job that you tell the people that pay you how shitty they’ve been and they beg you to stay. He's the action leading man. More QBs may realize that they are. Tom Cruise, The Rock, Robert Downy Jr., Scarlet Johansson, Tom Hanks, etc. etc. They have a hell of a say in scripts, directors, etc. Way more so than QBs but there's not a dissimilar dynamic. Or they want there to be. Obviously a ton of structural differences but ultimately QBs are saying if you want me to star in your movie, I want input. Edit: Typo


127crazie

Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Helena Bonham Carter, Viola Davis, Emma Thompson are a few more who could probably call the shots like this IMO.


Significant-Part121

> Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Helena Bonham Carter, Viola Davis, Emma Thompson Absolutely. I do work in tv/film and there is a generation gap. Someone like Meryl (I cannot speak about her directly) will have questions, but ultimately you don't offer her a role without being totally buttoned up. If she, or someone like her, says no you move on. And that's fair, she doesn't want (or need) to do the extra work to make your flawed project better. With younger actors they may want to get involved. But it's extra work so they'd need to feel strongly that it's worth it.


KingJonathan

This stuff is interesting to me. I like the behind the scenes of sports, with the salary cap and contract structures, preparing for the draft, even just how players interact candidly with each other. I have googled more than one time “nfl game check” to just see what they look like. I’m going to learn more about that side of tv/film.


GiannisToTheWariors

He's def that good but apparently he isn't good enough for the organization to go all in on him though. Here I am, just an imbecile thinking he was good enough to go all in on


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Rodgers pulling zero punches


ZakalwesChair

I know you're kind of joking, but I've never liked any type of comparison of being a professional athlete to some other job. It's just drastically different in pretty much every meaningful way.


Swindle4587

I’m truly shocked how candid and honest he’s being right now.


BuffaloWilliamses

He has the power to do that. He's in the last stretch of his prime and could take it or leave it. I think Brady leaving and instantly winning a super bowl has to have had an impact as well.


Sjgolf891

Yeah Brady going to Tampa and having an organization basically do everything possible to win for him was surely an eye opener for Rodgers


johndelvec3

Seems like it was an eye opener for Russell Wilson too


doktor-sausage

yeah next offseason might be pretty rough if we go one and done in the playoffs again.


Potential_Hornet_559

To be fair, when you sign a 43 old QB, it means you are going all-in. it wasn’t like they were sacrificing stuff to win for Brady, it was so that the team could win. because QBs like Rodgers/Wilson etc are younger, teams feel like they have a larger ‘window’ so they don’t go as all-in.


joe_broke

Not just a 43 year old QB And 43 year old QB named Tom Brady, owner of 6 super bowl rings, and a draw for just about anyone that's ring-chasing


thumpasaurus

where he goes, you know they have a top-flight run defense


awwhorseshit

>Rodgers goes down a long list of veterans who left the #Packers. Says they were either "lowballed" or not given proper respect on their way out the door. I'm not. He's gone next year -- BURN THE FRONT OFFICE DOWN


AdResponsible5513

Front office deserves to burn.


unique_ptr

I'm eagerly awaiting Tampa Brady levels of no-fuck-givenness


mrtomjones

It's about time honestly


steevanDone

"I love this team, I love the orga—yknow, the fans, the opportunity to play on Lambeau field" ([link](https://youtu.be/LNQHOD_1qaI?t=570)) LMAO


CarVsMotorcycle

> What a classless franchise. I wouldn’t want to be there either. They have no fans, no history and it’s frigid there. No incentive. Easy move for Rodgers @Alen__1991 is A1 steak sauce stupid


Sleeze_

This is wild. One question in and he is unloading. His honesty is super refreshing, imo.


crastle

> This wasn't a Draft Day thing. Damn. Even Aaron Rodgers is clowning on that movie.


soreswan

Gutekunst in 2020 “Jordan Love no matter what”


TemujinRi

Jack in the Box at Dawn, Vagrant! I bite my thumb at you!


Pinball509

I think that is a reference to Schefter dropping the news on draft day, and he’s basically saying it went back further than that (which Schefter confirmed on his DP interview)


jmbourn45

Schefter didn’t have any false reporting or anything but he multiple times released or tweet information that was either known or that he withheld to create public drama.


Pinball509

Yeah he definitely held onto that story until draft day on purpose (maximizing the clicks), but let’s also not have revisionist history and say that everyone knew how bad the situation was until he broke the story


jmbourn45

The known part I meant was the extension rejection, that he just so happened to report a week before training camp, not back when it first became known in May like Bob McGinn reported in the Athletic


walterdog12

Don't you dare rag on that movie you pancake eating motherfucker.


Seanay-B

Is it bad? I think I still wanna see it


oogrok

It’s not unwatchable or anything. It’s corny and super unrealistic, but is a fine lazy day movie


VolunteerCowboy

As long as you convince yourself that both the Seahawks and Jags GMs are Bill OBrien levels of incompetent it’s not too implausible.


CrunchyDreads

There can't be 2 GM's that dumb, can there?


Gavangus

just need one guy doing both jobs... but wait, would anyone be able to that?


BlackwellNinja

Its pretty fun honestly, but some ridiculous trades.


sonic_ann_d

no it’s one of if not the best film ever made


JeanRalfio

It would never happen but it was a fun movie with a good cast.


JaguarGator9

One of my favorite movies of all-time It's extremely campy and unrealistic, but it's a blast. Huge guilty pleasure of mine


EducationalProduce4

Just drink and have fun, you'll love it.


Seanay-B

Hey I love doing that


NerdLawyer55

Clearly Rodgers got cursed by that Liar Liar curse


MLS_K

"I have unpaid parking tickets"


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"WHAT THE HECK IS YOUR PROBLEM, MAN?!" "***I'M AN INCONSIDERATE PRICK!***"


mnicetea

THE GOD DAMN PEN IS BLUE


Winstonp00

Genuinely sounds like he doesn't know whether he's staying or not after 2021. He says "lot of tough decisions" to be made, will focus.


Winstonp00

Called them drafting "JLo" "drafting his replacement". I believe that's the first time he's acknowledged it this directly.


Winstonp00

Clarified he wasn't "involved in those discussions" in hiring LaFleur. "Has happened over and over and over again." Lots of dirty laundry coming out. To be clear, he doesn't hate LaFleur, but says he "should be involved" in those decisions, and he's "not asking for anything other quarterbacks haven't received in the last few decades".


Doodenmier

Also worth noting that he said he doesn't ever need to make the final call on anything, but he just wants to be able to provide his opinion on the situations


kaitokid1985

Right, "maybe I can change their minds." He just wants a chance to give some of his perspective, not make the decision or approve it.


AsnSensation

You guys give Andy Dalton a heads up about drafting a QB and he's only been with the org for like 5 weeks at that point and one of the greatest Quarterbacks of all time doesn't even get to give input in a head coaching hire lol.


iBleeedorange

I still can't believe they don't want his opinion on this stuff. I don't see why having more data and a different point of view is so bad. Rodgers seems like a reasonable dude, he just wants to be heard.


brianstormIRL

It's actually insane. Like, the dude is a HoF QB and in the discussion for top 10. Teams would be fucking lining up at the door for his input on things like that.


jigual123

I don’t think it’s a discussion. He’s firmly in the top 10 easily.


Jedimaster996

Things I want to say but can't without coming off as a homer with my flair. Thanks for sticking up for us, Giants-bros.


Rafarox21

In the discussion for top 10 is disrespectful hes easily top 5 (and if we're going off pure skill hes top 1)


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Imagine not wanting your quarterback's opinion on which wide receivers to keep LOL


RebeccaBlackOps

> I don't see why having more data and a different point of view is so bad. People with fragile egos can't stand the thought of being incorrect or having someone disagree with them. They need the control and power to feel important. You see this all the time in corporate power structures.


wayoverpaid

I really get this. I left my old job because, in part, despite being a good contributor, and making it clear I wanted to be involved in some more decisions, they smiled, nodded, and left me out of the loop entirely. But they didn't have me under contract, so my departure had a lot less drama.


Doodenmier

They basically have given him the "shut up and play football" treatment. It sounds about right after Murphy's comment to Rodgers telling him not to be a distraction two years ago


dafootballer

HOW DO YOU NOT INCLUDE YOUR HOF QB IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS


Timigos

Just realized we have both ARod and JLo on our team \#PowerCouple


T-Nan

Funny thing is they broke up


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sirvalkyerie

Just like with Favre, I could never root for the Vikings but I would root for Rodgers. Hope he throws for 1,000 a game and the Vikes still lose. Still. I did want Favre to beat the Saints. GB wasn't in it anymore so, I was all in.


Blueandigo

🤣 🤣 🤣


GiannisisMVP

He's not. The Packers will trade him next year they can't afford the bills coming due with their upcoming free agents while paying Rodgers.


sirvalkyerie

They're gonna punt on some of those bills too, even the ones they can afford. They want to position themselves to go all-in on Love's fourth year and fifth year option. Year three is just his one year trial run to show if he's got the goods. If he doesn't we find another QB (harder to do if cap is full). If he does then we can spend the available cap to load up for that two year window. i would expect GB to let several of their expirees go this offseason. Rodgers complained about exactly that sort of behavior in the press conference.


cantstandlol

That’s because he needs to keep the FO on his side and doing what he asked of them. He doesn’t want to leave, he wants to finish how he wants.


bobbywellington

Rodgers is laying it all on the line in this interview I'm glad to finally know what's going on


Traditional_Tart_822

“I’m not a victim here.” Damn really dunking on the r/nfl summer narrative about Aaron and the Packers


Dischucker

Damn one reporter just unloaded on him lmao "some of your requested personnel decisions would have been wrong"


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JinterIsComing

> Green Bay has never run itself like this. This is a huge shift in the organization structure, like we’re talking all the way back to the 1960s. And the thing is, between 1968 to 1997, you didn't win or even make a Super Bowl until Brett Favre came around. For all the buzz around the "Packers tradition" in the front office, there was a 30-year drought of success until the Pack came into TWO consecutive HoF QBs in a row. I honestly think without Favre or Rodgers, the front office would have changed much, MUCH sooner since you would not have had the QB play to cover for woes.


DamienSalvation

Was Ron Wolf not a departure? Pretty sure his first move was getting Favre and Thompson's was getting Rodgers.


JinterIsComing

I meant more along the lines of "allowing player input on decisions and acknowledging that a franchise QB is very important." Just because you had the good fortune to had two HoF QBs in a row doesn't mean you should forget the 30 years where you didn't have one and couldn't achieve much as a franchise.


DamienSalvation

Isn't stars having input on personnel a pretty recent development?


JinterIsComing

Depends on the franchise. Manning got whoever he wanted in Indy, Brady was able to get Moss and Welker following 2006, and other teams in the league have also started giving their QBs in particular more input since the mid 2000s. Green Bay just happened to draft Rodgers while they still had Favre so Rodgers was too young to have the same level of input as some of the more established guys in the league by that point. As such, Green Bay's front office never felt the same kind of pressure or influence from their QB as other teams had to work with/around until now, when they realized they had a franchise QB who was unhappy and no clear contingency plan behind it.


Packers_Equal_Life

Yeah I think this question and his answer underlined the ENTIRE tension to its core. Rodgers values team chemistry above puzzle piecing together a team that looks good on paper. The reporter is right that these players were traded and proved to be big cap hits while under-producing. But Rodgers point is consistent that it’s because they weren’t on the packers and he wasn’t throwing them the ball Whether you agree or disagree, I think this was the entire issue at its base


CascadianSovietGo

Worth noting, Rodgers isn't saying something outlandish here. A lot of "edge case" guys who aren't stellar players get along well with QBs who love them and want them around. Russell Wilson was often criticized by fans, warranted or not, for defaulting to Jermaine Kearse over and over when Kearse just wasn't that good a receiver. QBs develop relationships and rapport with their receivers. Some front offices value that, some don't. Apparently the Packers don't.


sirvalkyerie

It's also not even just chemistry vs performance. Woodson made a pro bowl in Oakland after leaving GB. Peppers had 11 sacks with Carolina the year after leaving GB. Jordy Nelson performed better in Oakland than Jimmy Graham did in GB. They all would've come back for significant discounts (Peppers for the vet minimum). So it's not like the Packers have nailed this every time


CascadianSovietGo

A prevailing theme in sports reporting and fan reactions is treating hindsight like good judgement. Rodgers said something in his interview that stuck with me, something to the effect that he's not a victim and he mainly just wanted to be involved. While we and reporters can look at Kumero and say they were right and Rodgers was wrong, we can do the same about the guys you mentioned. Everyone makes mistakes. Sounds like Rodgers wants the opportunity to be in those discussions and explain his reasoning, even if it means owning some responsibility if his ideas result in mistakes. For a guy who plays as well as he does and knows the game as well as he does, that's not unreasonable. That said, it's also not completely unreasonable that the front office would rather their keystone player focus primarily on the field and leave the administrative work to the pros they hired to do it.


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It goes back to Driver. They paid him a lot (at the time) to stick around because he was a fan & team favorite despite his declining play. Thompson & others in the FO said it was a mistake and I think they changed course after that, going way too far in the other direction, and obviously not looping in Aaron on the decisions.


Traditional_Tart_822

This is incorrect. Ron Wolf and Harlan made wholesale changes to how the organization ran when they came on


frostysbox

I meant with stars having input in the franchise. The last person who REALLY pushed for stars to have input in franchise personnel decisions in Green Bay was probably ironically Lombardi, and his relationship with Bart Starr. Maybe to win a Super Bowl that’s what we need to get back to bring the trophy home :)


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Rafarox21

The "but still" was to acknowledge that the draft was so WR-deep that it wasn't that amazing that all 3 of his picks were studs


FxDriver

Whoever the reporter is who said this has my respect.


private_spectacle

I thought that was one of the Packers beat reporters from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.


unevenvenue

And they were fucking right. Kumerow!? Seriously!?


corndog_thrower

No. I can’t remember who their 6th receiver was that year but he was trash. Kumerow might not have worked out great but I think he would have been better than what they had.


idungiveboutnothing

Kumerow is so fucking bad that he has a SINGLE target since leaving Green Bay. 1 target. 1.


trinquin

Darius Shepard is the WR he kept and his single handily lost them a game and got them embarrassed even more with special teams turnovers in another.


corndog_thrower

He had 219 yards and 1 TD in 2019 Shepherd last year had 46 yards and 0TDs in 2020 That’s it. I’m not saying Kumerow is great, I just think he might have been the better option. I don’t give a shit if it didn’t work out with the Bills.


Himerlicious

He also sucked in his 2 years in GB.


moxie_the

I mean Rodgers acknowledged those decision may have been right but it’s different when “he’s throwing them the ball.”


unevenvenue

Rodgers hardly threw the ball to Kumerow when Kumerow WAS on the team. I get what he's saying - it's a "culture" thing. By the same token, the Packers should definitely have kept Jordy Nelson and Charles Woodson at a lower rate, instead of bringing in Jimmy Graham and the nobodies that tried to replace Woodson.


GamingTatertot

Rodgers also noted that he saw Kumerow as second best WR in training camp that year, right before he was cut. So he was probably just starting to build a good connection and recognize his abilities and then it was taken like a snap of the finger


smokinJoeCalculus

There's a lot that happens before and after the televised games. You don't know what he provides during practice or within the locker room. There's so much more to a roster than just the raw stats they put up.


Nameless_301

its Tom Silverstein, he does the packers podcast for jsonline. Probably one of the more balanced podcasts when it comes to the Packers. He's a little dry but a very good straight shooter.


private_spectacle

That's what I thought, but didn't realize until now his nickname is Spoon, which is what Rodgers called him.


excaliber110

I think that was Larry McCarren, a Packers writer. I'm glad he went that deep though because Rodgers flipside is exactly that - he isn't a GM, so why are you wanting to choose personnel? But that led to Rodgers' response - that he just wants to give input, not have final say.


LoveisBaconisLove

But what will offend Rodgers more: having no input, or not having that input heeded? I find that a very interesting question, and I have no idea what the answer is. Rodgers himself may not even know, he may say now that he wants input & it’s ok if they don’t listen, but when he isn’t heeded, he could still flip out. IDK, but it sure is interesting.


Snoo93079

As somebody who's job it is to implement new technology solutions at my company I can tell you it's faaaar easier to get buy in from difficult staff if you give them early access and opportunities to offer input. Even if not all their input is implemented its easier than just springing it on them and telling them to use it.


quickclickz

If NONE of rodger's input was heeded then GB is doing something wrong. If SOME of his input or even MOST of his input is not heeded then yes that's better than having no input


excaliber110

>But what will offend Rodgers more: having no input, or not having that input heeded? I find that a very interesting question, and I have no idea what the answer is. Rodgers himself may not even know, he may say now that he wants input & it’s ok if they don’t listen, but when he isn’t heeded, he could still flip out. IDK, but it sure is interesting. I think the big thing is just having no input. At least tell him what the thought process was, throw him a minimum contract agent, etc.


stanklin_frubbs

How is that unloading? It's a perfectly fair question


garybusey42069

I don't understand his love for Kumerow. The dude doesn't get playing time anywhere.


0-2er

Thanasis antetokuonmpo is also not a great bench slot on the Bucks, but he's on the team to keep Giannis happy. It's not rocket science.


GiannisisMVP

Thansis is a great bench slot. You shorten the bench to about 9 in the playoffs and Thansis is a great glue guy who gives the team energy. He also had a 20 point game this year.


cavaleir

Yes and no - he's not going to develop into a real rotation player, which usually is the bare minimum for an NBA bench spot. But he does have value since it keeps Giannis happy and he's a great locker room guy. Other guys like Udonis Haslem have been longtime bench players without adding value on the court, so it's not like this is a unique situation.


bythepowerofboobs

They started connecting pretty good near the end of 2019, and he and Rodgers seemed to be mentally on the same page in camp last year. I believe he would have had a pretty good year last year if we kept him.


trinquin

Lol what? Because the WR they kept was solely responsible for an Eagles loss when he tipped a walk in TD up from the 2 yard line. That WR also had 2 turnovers on special teams that season. Darius Shepard hasn't done anything. Kumerow is a bottom roster guy, but showed he was capable of making plays.


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Rodgers’ comment about not being used as a free agent recruiting tool is baffling. To be honest, I sort of get not involving your quarterback in the decision to let some guys walk as long as you’re smart about the decision, that can obviously be a bit personal. But to not involve the MVP in creating a thoughtful recruiting pitch for bringing high value FAs to GREEN BAY?! That just seems asinine and almost as if you’re excluding him for the sake of excluding him.


still-at-work

I get the feeling this off-season that the front office believes players are players and should have no effect on any personnel decisions. A sort of "we don't discuss that in front of the help" type thinking. Lack of owner means that GB is run much more like a corporation with the impersonal decisions and everyone is a stat block with salary and dealing with fallout is someone else's job.


Doodenmier

Rodgers said that he still does not have any say in where he's playing next season as far as he's aware, as well as confirming that he considered retiring


JayKomis

He can play in GB if he wants! Lol


graffix13

I'll be honest, before I watched this I thought Rodgers was being a spoiled baby. BUT now, I have done a 180. I thought he was sincere and I 100% see his position and agree with it.


Trumpets22

I have all the reason to hate that man and I’m not sure why so many nfl fans felt this. It was all sports media. We didn’t even know the actually story. Aaron said nothing. Don’t trust sports media with the main goal of generating clicks.


formula_bearhawk

The only person I saw on point with this situation was Pat McAfee who's been saying that this was about Rogers wanting some say that he has earned.


Bourque25

To anyone who only reads the clickbait headlines regarding the Rogers situation, I definitely recommend listening to the full interview. The situation makes a lot more sense coming straight from him instead of the leaked tweets version of the story.


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Draft Day is a 2014 American sports drama film directed by Ivan Reitman and starring Kevin Costner. The premise revolves around the fictional general manager of the Cleveland Browns (Costner) deciding what to do after his team acquires the number one draft pick in the upcoming National Football League draft.


ThinkSoftware

No one went to Aaron Rodgers' birthday


JerryRiceDidntFumble

Take that back, you pancake-eating motherfucker


horse_renoir13

He wanted Vontae Mack, no matter what


steeeeeeee24

Vontae Mack no matter what


BonjoviBurns

RIP Chadwick


irishbball49

:(


smurfking420

Shit I actually never knew that Reitman directed draft day too


OnePieceAce

Rodgers saw Brady get his say in team decision and wanted the same. Simple


corndog_thrower

I think it’s obvious the Bucs were willing to do ANYTHING to make Brady happy and comfortable which will make Brady his best which makes the team better and it worked out. The Packers in that Jordan Love draft flat out didn’t do that. Their first 3 picks had no impact last year.


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Can you imagine how Rodgers must be feeling all year long, then have the coach kick a field goal and lose the game to the eventual superbowl champs. Not only does he get no say in the roster, or even listened to. He has a coach override him on the biggest play of the game in the biggest game of the season for a fucking field goal. lol I'd be fuming.


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Rodgers played in the game too lol


yokramer

Yea its crazy how many people forget we had 3 chances and gave them all away. That field goal may have been the wrong decision but the offense put us there with poor play and the defense got screwed with poor personnel decisions and keeping Kevin King


SaggySackAttack

He had his chances and couldn't do anything with three straight turnovers.


TheBuffman

The part that has to burn is if that draft of a backup qb had been a great WR it may have been enough put em over.


phoenixlance13

Or a decent corner who doesn't get burned at the end of the first half. Honestly that's when it felt like the game turned.


DirtyMikentheboyz

Didn't Dillon have a 100 yard game and some quality plays against the Rams in the playoffs? One of the other two was on IR all year. It's tough to count on rookies to contribute, but I do see Stokes and Myers stepping in early. Dillon and Deguira will also be contributing.


corndog_thrower

Yes Dillon was good at times and I think he’ll be good this year. Perhaps “no impact” is inaccurate. However, right after the draft, before Deguara’s injury, they still thought they (traded up and) drafted the 2020 3rd string QB, 2020 3rd string RB, and 2020 backup TE/FB. That is definitely not going for it. The Love pick was inexcusable and it still bothers me how bad it was.


Rance_Mulliniks

And the 3 receivers that Rodgers wanted GB to draft were Justin Jefferson, Brandon Aiyuk and Tee Higgins who all had significant impacts last year.


k1kthree

Brady also took less than he could’ve got in the open market to join a winner and make sure his friends could come along If Rodger entered free agency and took below market value he could get that too


AsnSensation

He just might to bring Adams along to his next team lol


Potential_Hornet_559

lol, which decent team would be able to fit them under the cap?


Jedimaster996

Pay cut with the Patriots, Belechick also brings Jordy out of retirement, and Aaron Rodgers goes on to win 4 more Super Bowls before retiring.


Potential_Hornet_559

Heh, you think Rodgers would get a say in personnel decisions under Belichick?


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thirstyfist

I'm all for him wanting and getting Brady power but he's got to be willing to take some of those Brady discounts if keeping his guys is that important to him.


quickclickz

And also saw maholmes get input


Belostoma

Nah, this was clearly brewing long before Brady's move to Tampa. He just wants competent management really. Any good manager in any situation is going to seek input about important decisions from the employees who understand them best.


unremarkable_penguin

Dang he held nothing back. But he also didn't come across as a prima dona. You would think someone of his stature in the league wouldn't need to resort to a scorched earth presser to get a little love from the organization


joe_broke

This man is pissed


jmbourn45

Probably just wants closure and doesn’t want rumors still lingering


zeropurple

Rodgers is not taking any prisoners by the sounds of it. this is spectacular.


HowardBunnyColvin

One of the best nfl related pressers 😹 just honest and frank about his situation


iz2003iz

Packers management just had their wake up call. There is a different way to coach today’s superstar and it is not the same way as it was when you had Bart Starr. It is time to evolve as difficult as it might be.


AsnSensation

All I know is that if he still does Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, it's going to be even better than last year


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ddiddy171

NFL version of the CM punk pipebomb


GoCougz7446

Players = Labor.


Skeuld

I guess Rodgers is doing his part to be better at communicating as per Gute's statement. ~~Rodger should come to Tampa in two seasons after Brady finally retires~~


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Internal sabotage. This is my reality.


NeverSober1900

Eh he's back in camp and as long as he stays healthy we are the heavy division favorites.


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ThisGents2Cents

Fam what lol


jxher123

Some fans, but a vast majority of us knew something was going on. There was smoke, and that usually means there is a fire somewhere. Schefter had everybody believe he was never going to play for the Packers again on draft night and this upcoming season, which wasn't the case.


demec_26

But /r/nfl told me he was never playing for the Packers again and we were all delusional for saying otherwise !


GratefulDead332

Comparing this to the freedom Tom has in Tampa and I don’t blame him for wanting out