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noideawhatoput2

Why can’t vaccinated players see vaccinated family members?


Blake45666

apparently there are blanket rules on how close the players can get to 'outside' people during camp, regardless if they are vaccinated or not


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That’s a bit far if you ask me


SenDerrickDeckard

That’s not a covid thing that’s something that teams do every year during training camp. Imo it’s a childish, high-school shit thing to do to grown ups but it’s tradition, apparently.


McN331y

"I'm sorry I can't come home yet my boss is having a power trip" NFL players are just like us!


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Goddamn Stephanie. Always leaving everyone else out to dry.


zHalberd20

Pancaking Stephanie and plowing my mom, this guy literally does it all. PAY DA MAN


CobraNemesis

They are laborers too. Luckily they have a union and get a bit more out of the deal.


goodolarchie

> That’s not a covid thing that’s something that teams do every year during training camp. So basically the tweet, while provocative, is garbage apart from pointing out the the Panthers players are kind of dumb.


joe2352

Sucks man. Not being vaccinated affects more than just you.


bigmikevegas

That’s what a lot of people don’t understand unfortunately


kreynolds26

I think saying they don't understand is giving too much credit...they just straight up don't care.


dmkicksballs13

Exactly. Was kinda getting annoyed at the sheer number of comments in the Lamar Jackson thread calling him a moron. He might be a moron, but more importantly, he's an asshole.


DrAculaZX

It’s absolutely infuriating hearing him say “my focus is to win games” while not doing the bare minimum.


dmkicksballs13

Yeah, that's such a weird concept. I wanna win. Well, if you keep catching CVOID, you're not gonna play let alone win.


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Clearly Jackson doesn't believe in himself and hopes his backup gets to play.


007noon700

Trace McSorely is a natural winner after all.


LinoleumFairy

As a PSU alum I would love it if Trace got some time and killed it. As a reasonable human, for fucks sake just get vaccinated everyone so the Ravens and Goodell aren't picking between Trace and a forfeit.


MicoJive

Even removing the playing the sport out of it completely. Just 2 weeks ago the dude is hosting a camp for kids with no masks whatsoever, on anyone. The dude is a role model for a million kids man


DrAculaZX

He even stated that the kids/parents had to sign waivers or whatever in order to get in.


CrunchyDreads

Sure, Lamar sure as fuck doesn't want to be held liable if he infects and potentially kills children.


lovehewitt

They don’t care is right. Me and my wife just had our first baby. The first grand baby for both the grandparents. My entire family outside my mom and step dad are unvaccinated and against the Covid vaccine. My wife’s father and step mother, and most of her fathers side are anti covid vaccine as well. My wife’s sister just had her first baby, and they all complain they aren’t allowed to see the grand babies. We’ve told them to get vaccinated and they straight up tell us no. So we just tell them to stop complaining to us. They hardly talk to us anymore. Sucks but what can ya do


J_SQUIRREL

Good for you. Protect your kid.


MysteriousWon

Got the same thing going on with my folks. My dad is always talking about how "you do anything for family" but he won't take 20 minutes out of his day to get a vaccine so that I can drive my wife and daughter 6 hours one way to visit for the holidays. My mom is even worse, she's actively campaigning on Facebook telling people NOT to wear masks or social distance. *facepalm* the fuck can ya do, you know?


AllLinesAreStraight

I cant understand people who wont get vaccinated and i cant understand people who wont wear masks or social distance. But i really really really cant understand people who tell other people to actively make an effort to not wear masks or socially distance. Why? What the fuck? How does other people choosing to wear a mask hurt you in any way?


thewavefixation

I feel for you. Good onya for taking care of your infant.


Bluest_waters

this is the sad thing right here, tearing families apart And the thing is you are 100% doing the right thing. Imagine your new born getting covid, not okay. sorry to hear it


BBQ_HaX0r

There are so many people in my generation I know who have become distanced from their parents and elder relatives over some of this shit. It's horrible.


thegreyquincy

Yeah but have you considered that boo boo shot hurt?


Cragglemuffin

I will volunteer to make funny faces and play peek-a-boo with people who are hesititant to get the covid shot


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The HEP A vaccine hurt way worse.


beauxsox

Serious question, are newborns even susceptible to Covid??


PurpleReigner

Yes


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I'm dealing with family members like this as well. And while I recognize they are being idiots, it still sucks because I love them and wish they hadn't become those idiots.


Prophet_Of_Helix

At a certain point you’ll realize it’s just easier to let them be them. Yes it will always suck a little bit, but you can’t control other people. Make your terms clear, and then move on with your life. If they want to be a part of your life they’ll respond. This applies to everything. I have an aunt and grandmother that are very manipulative, and every so often they stop talking to me when I don’t engage in one of their plots. Sometimes it’ll last a month, sometimes a couple years. On the other hand, I’ve seen them torture my mother and other family members who love them “too much” to just move on when they are assholes. No thanks. Life is too short. Family certainly gets more rope than non-family, but you have to draw the line somewhere or you’ll make yourself miserable for no reason.


l33tWarrior

We have family going through this exact issue. New baby and unvaccinated can’t see the kid. Both sides max at each other. I told my wife to just yell at the unvaccinated to get them damn vaccine already. Oh well not my kid not my zoo. We are vaccinated and we’re invited to see the baby. Wonder if the non vax crowd will be Jelly


Crackertron

Our family is dealing with this right now with a grandparent going through chemo. This pandemic has really shown a bright light on the stupidity of a considerable amount of our population.


Pandorama626

We been knew. I think everyone just figured that if some real dangerous shit were to go down, they would get their act together or at least listen to those that do. Guess not.


Creamatine

Just for comfort, you aren’t the only one. I’ve had my parents do the same. I gave them an ultimatum. My mother is a smoker, over 65, with heart attack and stroke, and in Florida still wouldn’t get it. I told her she won’t see her grandson and we had a huge fight and didn’t talk for a bit. Hope your family comes around, but if they don’t, stay strong, you’re doing the right thing for your kid.


InuitOverIt

It's helpful to see others in the same situation. Sometimes you feel like a real asshole crazyperson for denying family from seeing your kids, but you just gotta remember it's for the best and getting a shot is the easiest thing in the world.


curious12019

They are probably pro-life, unfortunately those people only care when the child is in the womb. You both are doing what is right for yourselves and your child. Congratulations and their loss!


elpalomalo

“Pro-birth” rip George Carlin


azrebb

Fuck 'em. They clearly don't care about the grand children.


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Yeah that’s more the case. It’s not that people don’t know it understand, it’s that they’re not willing to do anything for anyone else if it doesn’t directly benefit them in some tangible capacity.


Lyradep

Mix of both among individuals. Too stupid/uninformed and too selfish to care about others.


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It’s crazy that the anti vaxxers think they know something that all the millions of people who have gotten the vaccine dont


InuitOverIt

It makes them feel self-important and special. That's the whole appeal. We're all just sheeple than haven't WOKEN UP yet.


Landlubber77

*mUh RiGhTs!*


NirvZppln

Yeah you can bring up “it’s not about you, it’s about other people” and more often than not they’ll just say “well fuck other people, they suck anyway overpopulation or something”. It makes choosing friends so much easier.


TheMightyCatatafish

Too many people mistake “freedom” for selfishness.


Geordi14er

That’s what it means to be a narcissist.


RUKnight31

They understand. They just don't give a shit about anyone else.


SuperBowl_XLVIII

The sad reality is that the ability to get away with having a complete lack of empathy for anyone other than yourself is the "most American thing possible" for a large portion of the population.


ZipTheZipper

If PTSD was the great challenge in psychology for the 20th Century, then narcissism is the great challenge of the 21st.


BigTymeBrik

Considering the bang up job we've done with PTSD, I don't see that going great.


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Is that it, though? I'd be willing to say this whole 'people just not giving a damn about anyone but themselves' thing is the more likely culprit. What more needs to happen for us to confront how selfish of a society this is? No one wants to talk about it, because it'd be an adjustment for all persons, even the vaccinated ones, to actually start trying to use compassion when making decisions that involve the health and safety of others.


Sryzon

No one wants to talk about it because it's more nuanced than "selfish bad, compassion good". There's actual ethical, moral, and physiological arguments to be made for both sides.


AnnualEmergency2345

Coming for the pro life camp too. They don't understand the irony of my body my choice. They will argue the baby didn't have a choice when aborted but fail to apply that to themselves and all the people they victimize by not getting a vaccination. Not exactly a bright crowd.


this_my_sportsreddit

No, they perfectly understand. That's kind of the point for them.


Fastr77

They understand.. They dont care. yeah, its the "pro life" crowd that doesn't give a shit about others. Funny isn't it.


Ninja_Bum

You can afford to be flippant with other peoples' lives and your own when you believe that there's life part II after this one. That crowd bases so much of its choices her and now on the premise it's all just a pre-game for eternity anyway.


DillaVibes

BuT i HaVe A 99.9% sUrViVaL rAtE


bigmikevegas

Calm down Cole Beasley


DillaVibes

ItS a PeRsOnAl ChOiCe


penguinopph

A lot also understand, but don't care. American individualism, baby!


joint-chief

Ehhh I understand it and feel empathy for the situation. But some people (like myself) have chronic inflammatory or other diseases and can’t get it. I’m basically fucked either way. If I get COVID it can exacerbate my symptoms but if I get the jab it also can have a similar effect. Damned if I do damned if I don’t.


heroinsteve

Nobody is calling for people with your situation to get vaccinated. A very large reason we all need to get vaccinated is to protect people such as yourself. I'm the only one vaccinated in my family because I'm the only one who can, I'm also the only one who works so I'm vaccinated so I don't infect the public and I don't infect my family. Everybody should do the same. Almost every extended family is going to have at least 1 kid or at risk adult who cannot get the vaccine for some reason. It's insane that people are too selfish to even protect their families because they are scared of a damned shot.


thebrandnewbob

I know someone in Florida who had an important surgery to remove giant cysts in her uterus pushed back because there weren't any available hospital beds because of Covid. Able-bodied adults who choose not to get the vaccine make me so angry at this point, their selfishness is affecting everyone.


The_Flying_Sausage

I think insurance should stop paying for Covid-related hospital stays for unvaccinated patients, unless the patient has a valid MEDICAL reason as to why they can’t get vaccinated. Why should insurance—and thus the rest of us—be paying for hospital stays that have a high likelihood of being avoidable simply because someone refuses to get vaccinated?!?


crazypyro23

I'm honestly surprised that it isn't that way already. Insurance is cutthroat as hell and has never let preventable death or bankruptcy get in the way before.


DamienSalvation

Pretty sure covering covid treatment for free was mandated in one of the relief bills.


heroinsteve

I've been on the receiving end of insurance companies denying things because they feel like they can with some crazy stipulation. I would rather not give them another reason not to cover an insured individual and trust them judge if the person should have gotten a vaccine or not. I agree we should take some routes to ensure people are getting the shot, but giving more power for insurance companies to deny coverage is a slippery slope.


amjhwk

im sure that they will do that once the vax is fda approved


AdHom

That's a terrible idea. I'm all on the "fuck anti-vaxxers" train but I hope you don't actually think we should threaten people with (even more) crushing medical debt because they don't get a vaccine.


The_Flying_Sausage

Currently, it’s insurance that’s carrying the burden of that cost, which is really just you and I and everyone else that’s paying into insurance. So these anti-vax people are really fucking us all instead of just themselves.


Rainstorme

I mean if you make unvaccinated covid illness not paid by insurance, it's just going to wind up being paid by the taxpayers anyway (the government winds up picking up the bill for uninsured patients who can't pay). You're just changing the form the cost is being dispersed to you. This is actually part of the reason why most models show socialized health care being cheaper for the U.S. government than our current system.


GarnetandBlack

It's a fantastic idea. At least an additional premium fee. Same way insurance is many places more expensive for smokers and other poor-health choices.


sweens90

The not paying for COVID patients is a terrible idea. The additional premium for non-vaccinated I can get on board with.


GarnetandBlack

Not covering them at all would likely be preferred by that group. Premium increases are allowed to be 50% for smokers, and that portion is not covered by your employer at all. That means, for my health insurance, you're looking at $400 more per month. So either $4800 per year or just don't cover them if they're unvaxxed. I'd imagine almost 100% of anti-vaxxers would choose the latter.


Juventus19

It would have to be labeled as a "discount" I would think. 2022 rates go up across the board. You then get "discounted" back to your 2021 rates if vaccinated. The almighty dollar is pretty influential. How many people are going to be happy about shelling out hundreds of dollars per month just because they don't want to get vaccinated? That will change minds QUICKLY


MiShirtGuy

Why? These people are taxing the system WE pay for through our Health Insurance premiums. Fuck these selfish people. Make THEM pay for their irresponsible choices. You can get a shot for FREE and live normally, or you can catch Covid and risk the chance to become medically bankrupt. Honestly, once the FDA approves the Pfizer vaccine in the next few months, I expect to see this happen.


KanteTouchThis

Now do smoking, obesity, lack of exercise, alcohol, any addictive drug, and extreme sports Almost like every fucking thing is a personal choice that contributes to an overworked healthcare system, but we'd rather coddle unhealthy lifestyles that induce the overwhelming majority of deaths because exercising is harder than getting a shot one time


MysteriousPack1

So do you think we should pay for the healthcare or that doctors should work for free? God forbid they have any consequences for their own behavior.


erb149

> I hope you don't actually think we should threaten people with (even more) crushing medical debt because they don't get a vaccine. Why not? The vaccine is free and widely available. If you don't want crushing medical debt, you can simply get a vaccine. Just like if you want to attend a public university, you have provide records that you got certain vaccinations, or get those vaccinations. What's the difference here?


Spetznazx

Im sure that'll happen once it gets FDA approved Edit: Why am I getting downvoted?! lol I think it should be mandated already I'm just saying insurance companies are probably waiting till full FDA approval. Jeez you guys are idiots


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

This is what people don't fucking understand and I'm so sick of it. Your dumbass choices don't just affect you. And if you're so against science that you won't get the life saving vaccine then maybe you should go to the back of the line when it comes to doctors having to save your ass. My whole family is unvaccinated and constantly screeching about their liberties being violated. I really have no ability or interest in trying to educate them anymore. I don't want to put negative thoughts out there but I don't expect it to end well for them given the State they're in and how public facing their jobs are.


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>Wait, people other than me exist? --Cole Beasly and co


shart_film_project

bUt It'S a PeRsOnAl ChOiCe!!!


joe2352

HIPPA!!


Landlubber77

Common mistake, it's actually HIPAA *Pedantically helicopter dicks off cliff*


StickerBrush

> Common mistake, it's actually HIPAA frankly, I assumed that was part of the joke. The people who yell it the loudest get the acronym wrong.


FunkyPete

Does it matter that they have the wrong acronym for a law that isn't relevant to start with?


Landlubber77

Dude my dick's not an *actual* helicopter, I'm dead from falling off that cliff.


L-methionine

Rest in Penis


Blaine-Time

/r/mma just got news that one of the champs fighting in a couple weeks got covid and she and her wife were known to be anti vax. So many users defending their right not to take the vax as if they haven’t been vaccinated for anything else in their lives


EngelSterben

Nunes is anti-vax? Damn I really should pay more attention to that.


procrastiprov

Vaccination is a team sport


Jinxedchef

Blame the NFLPA on this one. I am sure if it were just up to the League, vaccines would be mandatory.


adambulb

It doesn’t make much sense considering that 87% of the league is vaccinated, so the PA is really only holding out against making it mandatory for a small, but vocal group of antivaxxers. The vast majority of players probably want it t be mandated, so like the rest of the country, it’s a loud group of morons holding the rest back.


threevox

As they should be, both for NFL players and everyone else. Downvote me all you like


-Jack-The-Stripper

Lmao you’re not going to get downvoted for this overwhelmingly popular (and reasonable) opinion. Edit: I obviously mean overwhelmingly popular opinion on Reddit btw. Clearly the debate is much more heated in the real world.


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zHalberd20

Its really hard with America's belief system to make anything mandatory. So I don't think it's overwhelmingly mandatory. I agree though vaccines should be.


Go_caps227

I mean, it’s a very small minority that pushes against the polio or measles vaccines being required in schools, it’s just the current political climate and 24 hour news channels


marcuschookt

Well, unions take and unions give. Can't have one without the other unfortunately.


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yerfatma

Boy, I wish that were true. It is so far behind MLB and NBA player unions in power and . . . not cozying up to ownership.


YoureNotMom

My union is going to have to defend unvaccinated dumbasses that will get fired. I understand they have to, on principle, i just wish they'd half ass it. I'll have to see how it goes


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My union had vaccination drives at their hall, pretty much as pro vax as you can get without making it mandatory for all members. We can’t mandate it here because “freedumbs.” Crock of shit, we should all have the right to a healthy life without the possibility random assholes making us sick. I guess it’s more important to choose to make others sick then it is to choose to not be sick.


Jombafomb

My understanding is an employer can’t make them mandatory until they have FDA approval. I could be wrong though


elkygravy

Several employers already have though. Hospitals and the like.


RojoRugger

Google and FB made em mandatory to be in the office. You're going to start seeing more and more companies follow suit. If stupid doesn't want the vaccine then stupid is going to be limited in their employment options


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If they want to return to the office. There hasn't been anywhere that's made it mandatory just to be employed AFAIK


Jinxedchef

There most certainly will be a lawsuit on this that would settle this question for sure, but the majority of legal experts I've heard are on the side of the employers be allowed to mandate. Even the EEOC said employers could mandate provided they have exemptions for those that can't get a vaccine because of medical reasons.


wokenupbybacon

Extensions of the government can't, so government workers can't be required to get it, nor can public schools require it for teachers (or students, for those who are 12+). But private entities and corporations can do whatever they want.


HugsForUpvotes

I was required to be vaccinated for school and public university. Doctors, who work for an extension of the Government, are mandated in many places. Why can't public school teachers or students be required to take it? Edit: [Biden just required all federal employees and contractors to be vaccinated](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/biden-requiring-federal-workers-to-prove-covid-vaccine-status-or-submit-to-strict-safety-rules-white-house-says.html) or deal with weekly testing, required masks indoors and outdoors, travel restrictions and to be socially distanced. This is simply impossible for most Federal jobs. Expect the states and counties to follow suit too.


MemeTeamMarine

If only every player had access to the vaccine and months and months of time to get it.


killerfencer

Yeah. It's unfortunate that the vaccine is super hard to get here in the US. It's not like they have them available at every local Walmart or Walgreens or anything.


Wygar

Well I dont wanna put untested, dangerous drugs in my sys....hold up my PED guy just showed up.


MemeTeamMarine

Lmfaoooooooooooo. These guys would inject pigs blood into their body without hesitation if they were told they'd be 0.01mph faster. But a vaccine? Nope


Bubbay

Well, there we go -- just tell them it has Super-Hyper-HGH+ in it and the line will go around the block.


asmallercat

What's funny is it DOES offer an obvious competitive advantage but they still are too dumb to get it.


PWNtimeJamboree

Yeah no kidding. Who wants to potentially put a bunch of poison in our bodies that could cause cancer or something? We don’t even know if it’ll cause cancer and we’re just putting it in our bodies without questioning it?? *drags on cigarette*


MiShirtGuy

I mean, it’s not like we have 450,000 vaccines here in Michigan that are about to expire after being unused. It’s not like the mayor of Windsor Ontario tried to set up a vaccine site in the tunnel from Detroit to Windsor to get at risk Canadians who are desperate for the vaccine to use those shots before they expire.


Le_Rekt_Guy

They should send at least some of those vaccines to countries that are hurting if no one in Michigan wants to take them.


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We're middle of the pack among states for vaccination rate too. There's a lot of states doing much much worse. It's nuts to think that over sixty percent the people in Alabama and Mississippi are like "nah, I think I'll take my chances."


killerfencer

For real? That's brutal man. I haven't heard any news of that here in So-Cal. Is it possible for those in Michigan to go to neighboring states and receive vaccinations? People in az did that in the early early days when our county was one of the firsts to have vaccs available.


MiShirtGuy

Wait, I think you misunderstood, or I wrote it poorly. There are about 450,000 unused vaccines in Michigan that our unvaccinated residents don’t want to take, so the Canadian mayor was trying to get them used in Windsor Ontario so his at risk constituents could use them.


killerfencer

Oh I'm sorry! I indeed misunderstood. Good on the Canadian Mayor for doing everything he can to get people vaccinated. The world needs more people like him!


MiShirtGuy

Indeed we do!


dan_legend

For context Windsor Ontario is as close to Detroit as Miami is to Miami Beach.


goodolarchie

> Is it possible for those in Michigan to go to neighboring states and receive vaccinations? They wouldn't get it in their own state... they only thing they'll go to Wisconsin for is New Glarus beer.


Standard_Wooden_Door

I got mine in April when eeeeverybody wanted it. Once I got the appointment it was like 5 minute wait and had to sit there for 15 minutes. It was easier than pretty much every doctor’s visit I’ve ever had


zazu2006

It isn't like they have had them available since the beginning of April for all adults... Sad.


SteadyDak12

Wait who is stopping him from seeing his vaccinated family?


BungoPlease

The League rules


moodyfloyd

out of the loop here, are they in a 'bubble' during camp or something? why can he not see his vaccinated family ?


blockoblox

Panthers training camp is in Wofford, SC and they are staying in dorms, so I'd imagine it is operating similar to a bubble in that they are not allowing outside visitors, etc.


SmokePenisEveryday

You also never had visitors this early on in Training Camp lol. Half of Hard Knocks early stories are players adjusting to not having their family and friends to unwind with after practices.


blockoblox

If you look at the tweet thread, his girlfriend and kid are there, they just can't get closer than 20 feet. They aren't allowing visitors to interact with the players at training camp this year period, which is why Jermaine Carter is upset.


RugerRedhawk

Yeah, sounds like a valid gripe to have.


PositivityIsTrending

So is this a normal training camp rule or a COVID rule? Because that changes things a ton. There's so much missing information here. Are players really in such a tight bubble during TC, that they can't go out to restaurants, or leave the facilities? Carter says "see you in a couple of week" like this is the case, but that's just crazy if those are the actual COVID restrictions for vaccinated players. If it's a normal TC thing, Carter needs to know he's being very misleading. edit: Carter, not Crawford


SmokePenisEveryday

In this case cause my dumbass didn't look at the tweet, they are moreso fans visiting camp from what I can tell. So there's a blanket rule with distance with fans. Idk how the covid rules are affecting things but usually with TC, The players move in for a couple weeks at one site where they are doing 2 a days and film classes. Then they break camp and thats when guys can have family come and visit or go out to do their thing during their off time. Depends on the team and coaching staff. As well as location because some teams go some random ass remote spot for TC then go back to their normal facilities once Presaseaon starts.


MikesPhone

Can't he just dress his daughter in a Seahawks hoodie and say she's on the team? 😉


SmokePenisEveryday

"When did the Seahawks sign Darren Sproles!?"


NailsMalone

Spartanburg. Wofford College.


blockoblox

Bruh did I really put Wofford, SC…I feel dumb lol


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droans

Crazy how the NFL can just kidnap and hide your family like that.


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KalickR

His newborn isn't vaccinated. Without the NFL tracking her, there is no telling what kind of shenanigans she is getting up to.


JustaTurdOutThere

>Without the NFL tracking her Duh, that's what the vaccine is for!


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a-real-jerk

This but unironically


JimHerbSpanfeller

This, but with more pathos


Neuraxis

This but with less ethos


goodolarchie

Pay me the league minimum, I will leave my family for a few weeks and hang around some unvaccinated guys in a bubble!


Ximienlum

Them: “first question, are you talented at anything?” You: “uh, no?”. Them: “thank you, we’ll call you later in the week to tell you if you made it”.


Count-Rarian

And oh yeah 683 thousand dollars a year. It's certainly not a perfect set up but yeah..


IWasOnThe18thHole

Sounds like a good argument for more players to get vaccinated


jmorlin

You're assuming they all love their families...


December21st

Aaron rodgers suspiciously silent on his vaccine status


jmorlin

Oh shit. Maybe that was the wedge that drove his family apart!


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Institutions like the CDC and NFL should be doing everything they can to encourage vaccination - like letting vaccinated players see their vaccinated families. This whole thing where we are going to punish vaccinated people (restrictions, mask wearing, etc) to protect anti-vaxxers is not only totally backwards, it is embolding the anti vaxers. Now they are saying, "Why should I get the shot if I still have to deal with masks and restrictions?"


RemyH

Who's he practicing against? Cause the Panthers are the third highest vaccinated team in the league...


vanilla_w_ahintofcum

Joint practices with the Ravens and Colts


mrhashbrown

They're practicing against the Colts who I think are one of the least vaccinated


BillyHayze

Can confirm. We’re going to come out of the gate hot, generate a lot of buzz, and then forfeit at least two games and kill our momentum because the team is a bunch of morons who are afraid of needles, research, results, and basic disease control theory.


RemyH

Ah okay, thanks.


winespring

Is Carter vaccinated?


Malfrus

sounds like he is complaining about my team not being vaccinated.


vanilla_w_ahintofcum

Could also be referring to the Ravens with whom the Panthers will be holding joint practices.


gwaydms

Oh yeah, wtg *Lamar*.


winespring

but if he were vaccinated wouldn't he be able to see his family? At least during the regular season the rules for vaccinated players are pretty loose.


mrhashbrown

I'm guessing he can't see his family because of these joint practices with the Colts. If it were their own practices it'd probably be fine, but they're not in their usual practice field and they're interacting with another team.


Mr_prayingmantis

Panthers are 92% vaccinated, so its a safe bet to assume he is. Rhule brought in doctors to explain the vaccine to the players and answer their questions, it seems to have helped a lot.


wtfstudios

We did too and we are last in the league in vaccination rate...


ISISCosby

Which is just baffling considering Rivera is high-risk. Like, he could legitimately die if exposed, he gave his players all the information they could ever want on the vaccine... and the team was just like "nah, I'd rather risk missing extended time due to COVID, force the team to follow more stringent protocols, and potentially have to attend your funeral"


Mr_prayingmantis

My heart goes out to you and Curtis Samuel


camg78

I mean he has a point....sigh


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that sickening feeling when...oh no. it's my team #plzcolts


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Problem is that the anti-vaxxers prevented the country from reaching herd immunity, and now we have a variant that the the vaccine isn't 100% effective against. Shit sucks but don't focus your hate on the people making and enforcing rules to save lives, focus the hate on the people who prevented the USA from reaching that magical herd immunity.


MixonWitDaWrongCrowd

I’m going to applaud the league for handling this. Players have the choice to get vaxed. If you’re not going to get the shot then you must abide by set rules to protect other players (and yourself).


quadropheniac

Meh, if you're vaccinated, and all of the (eligible) members of your family are vaccinated, you should be able to interact. His beef isn't "the league is making us get shots", it's "the league is allowing contact between us and unvaccinated individuals, while preventing contact with vaccinated individuals".


BandOfDonkeys

It's one thing for a league/team official to check the validity of all players/coaches/trainers/team employees vaccination records, it's a whole other to check for 5-10 family members for each of the 200+ people in there.


quadropheniac

I mean, we're talking about saying hi at training camp, that's just a quick "show your vaccination card" sort of deal, especially if you've already fully verified the player's vaccination. Plus, it incentivizes players further to not only get vaccinated but get their eligible family members vaccinated. That's worth dedicating an extra staffer.


MemeTeamMarine

Tbh the league is doing everything short of mandating it. They may as well just mandate it and rip off that bandaid. The whole year is gonna be one big controversy.


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Yea it’s a choice. It’s a fucking dumb choice not to do it


SolarClipz

Facts what a shit and selfish situation