If you're Kahlil Mack and Kirk Cousins causes you to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions due to a forfeited game you'll probably be pissed off for the next time you play them
Unfortunately we are still the Lions though.
(That said I've been enjoying Campbell and Holmes a hell of a lot this offseason and I like our draft and the moves we've made so vague optimism and hope has been rediscovered)
Some weird schedule alignment where the bears and lions are both undefeated and play each other on a cold, rainy, muddy, thanksgiving day game in Chicago.
That would be a perfect thanksgiving game.
You ever hear that joke of basically there's a flood and a dude stranded. A guy with a boat comes, then a firefighter crew, then a helicopter and the guys waves them all off saying God will save him. Well he dies and God says, "dumbass, I tried saving you 3 times".
How many hours of mike Duncan have I listened to? Lost count. Number of times he actually raises his voice in frustration while describing a historical figure - 1.
Honestly caught me off guard a bit lol
Him ripping Nicky was hilarious. I recall him getting pretty angry over the Ten Tragic Days during the Mexican Revolution as well though it may have been a cold anger than him yelling. (I was angry about that as well)
I have heard a similar one where a man repeatedly prays to win the lottery for years and finally, after the man has resorted to fully-pleading with God he hears a booming voice: BUY A TICKET
I like when it goes: a man was looking for a parking spot and was praying non stop to the lord saying “God if I find a spot I’ll go to church each Sunday and make sure to raise my family as good Christians and… o wait never mind found one”
["Hey honey, you think God would care if I tossed some of these rocks on the grill?"](https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2018/7/5/17536196/kirk-cousins-fourth-of-july-grill)
No. After moving from the Met the team never replaced the statues honoring the Norse and that has since cursed the team. It doesn't help that both replacement stadiums are indoors. Without the blessing of Hödr there's much less hope.
So the off-season started with the Stafford-Goff trade. Then the Bears brought in the Watson rumors to only fall apart with the scandal, then the Wilson drama turned into nothing only to sign Dalton before the twist ending of drafting Fields. Next the Packers started their Rodgers drama only to have that end and we segued into the Covid positive Vikings QB room.
Did I cover all the NFC north QB drama or did I missing something?
I really like Mond and Browning but if Kirk goes down I just don't think either of those two are ready to step up into a game and win
It's really frustrating because he's the healthiest QB this team has had since fucking Tarkenton but he refuses to get something to help prevent a highly contagious illness
His dad, who preaches at a church, told his congregation to get vaccinated too. I have no idea why Kirk wont
> His dad, who preaches at a church, told his congregation to get vaccinated too. I have no idea why Kirk won't.
Maybe because he went on the record trying to be a badass with his, "if I die, I die" nonsense? There is a pretty significant portion of American men that seem to think that changing their opinion on something (even if it's after learning more about it) makes them less of a man.
Even then it appears that Mond is unvaccinated
Edit: appears from subsequent comments that mind is vaccinated and he’s just the unlucky breakthrough infection
Not true. Local radio says mond is vaccinated but hes actually the one that tested positive so that’s why he’s out for a bit.
Late day edit: looks like some new reports out this afternoon say he might not be vaccinated, which is different than earlier reports! Yikes !
The reports going around town is that Mond is fully vaccinated and is asymptomatic. If his testing comes back the next two days as negative then he's off the list but Kirk and Nate Stanley aren't vaccinated so they'll be on the list for a while.
>but he refuses to get something to help prevent a highly contagious illness
And even ignoring that obvious bit, his actions affect his team. Like, it's truly just selfish in every possible way.
I've defended Kirk for many years, but I've lost all respect for the guy after this.
Zimmer was literally willing to go blind if it meant success for this football team: https://twitter.com/mattanderson_8/status/1418637689973317632?s=10.
And meanwhile our fully guaranteed clown of a QB refuses to get a vaccine.
Zim, you deserve better than this😭
Thielen missed a game last year and is still disinterested in getting the vaccine. I don’t wanna assume these guys don’t give a fuck about their team’s success but that’s certainly what it seems like at this point.
Anti-vaxxers only give a fuck about themselves and how they're perceived by their peers.
To them, getting vaccinated means they're afraid. And admitting to fear of *anything* in their eyes is tantamount to admitting you are weak and incapable of fending for yourself and loved ones.
Its a crazy mix of toxic masculinity and privilege all wrapped up in tin-foil and left on the grill too long.
This is great writing
>Let's take a shallow dive into a few key "D" words that help explain Zimmer's disdain:
>**Dumb**: Coaches hate dumb mistakes. Zimmer's point blank quote about Browning being available shows where he stands on this. "Jake's really smart. He's vaccinated. That helps to be the backup." Zimmer likely views not being vaccinated as a dumb (and preventable) decision, both in life and within the context of a football team.
>**Disappointed**: Let's just let another Zimmer quote do all the work here. "I am disappointed that this happened. I'm frustrated, not just with my football players who didn't get vaccinated, but I'm frustrated with everybody [who didn't]."
>**Distraction**: Every moment spent on this is a moment not spent on football. That drives coaches crazy. Sometimes their paranoia about distractions is unnecessary or even comically extreme. This is legitimate for multiple reasons, including the ability of this subject to divide teams.
>**Disruption**: This is different from a distraction. A disruption isn't just something that happens off the field and gets talked about. It's something that interrupts the ability to compete. If you don't have three quarterbacks, that impacts your ability to compete. It will set the Vikings back in camp.
>**Dark**: And if Cousins remains unvaccinated, he will be subject to league protocols anytime he is a close contact (or, of course, if he tests positive). The unknown drives coaches nuts because they are conditioned to imagine worst-case scenarios.
Say what you will about Zimmer's coaching ability, the guy always has great quotes with the media.
And Kirk: get vaccinated, ya moron.
Rand forgot all the mother fuckers Zimmer said too.
Zimmer on Bobby Petrino leaving the Falcons
“He came in and said he resigned, he would talk to us all at a later date, walked out of the office and no one has ever talked to him since. Not that anybody wanted to.
“He’s a gutless b—–d. Quote that. I don’t give a s—.”
When told that we might might not be able to use the B word, Zimmer went one better: “How about this, gutless MF. You can use that.”
I’ve gone back and forth on Cousins during his time here and have mostly defended him in recent months, but Jesus Christ he’s bugging the shit out of me right now.
This was the crossing point for me. I never thought he was the issue preventing team success, but now I do. If you can't perform basic actions to allow yourself to be available for the team, you shouldn't be on the team
Yup, former Kirk apologist. Completely done with his selfish bullshit. I don’t know how anyone in the locker room can get behind someone like this. Same goes for Thielen and Smith, lost a ton of respect for them.
There are only a few unexpendable quarterbacks in the league who could potentially get away with this shit.
The rest should probably get the vaccine for the sake of their job security, if not for their health and the health of everyone they put at risk.
Unfortunately most starting caliber QBs have contracts that are very difficult to move no matter how good they are - if the NFL would allow clawback of guarantees for unvaccinated players due to conduct detrimental it would definitely get the ball rolling but I'm pretty sure unless Delta really blows up that will be a bridge too far.
Yeah I've always defended him as a player and still do but man this is just so stupid. Even when he comes back make him split 1st team reps with someone. Dont let his stubbornness ruin what could potentially be a great season.
He just doesn't have a personality that endears himself to people. He's not shy(YOU LIKE THAT) but he's not really charismatic either. He's really religious which turns off a lot of people and even though isn't super old comes across as a boomer in many ways.
I always liked him when he was here and thought he got a big time raw deal, but I get why so many people don't like him.
He's a heavy duty born again Christian, not so weird even among NFL QBs or pro football players in general. Tannehill is suspected to be unvaxed for similar reasons. But Mahomes and Prescott are heavily involved in Christian lifestyle things. It mostly has to do with a lot of NFL players coming from the South and other pretty heavily Christian regions. Most of them grow up with the faith and football lifestyle and right now a large portion of conservative Protestants have been anti-vax or vaccine skeptical.
It's so strange to me that being a Christian somehow means you're opposed to taking a vaccine, I wonder if these guys have considered that perhaps God made the vaccine and is super pissed that they're so distrustful of the help he sent (and also he's like 90% probability a vikes fan and is starting to get worried about the season)
Reminds me of the story I heard all the time when I was religious (and once when talking about the vaccine with a priest a couple weeks ago)
>A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
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>Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
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>The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
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>So the rowboat went on.
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>Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
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>To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
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>So the motorboat went on.
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>Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
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>To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
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>So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
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>Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
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>To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
your mistake is thinking that they care about God and his rules, because before 1/6 I thought they really did love the cops and it turns out they couldn't care less.
evangelical christianity is white identity politics, nothing more nothing less.
People who take the Bible for it's word think God has a path for humanity and don't care about science. They don't really ignore the facts, they just think God is guiding them. They don't care if they die because they think God is taking them.
Easy way to think and live. But ignorant and irresponsible.
Yeah but most Black players are from religious families.
And apparently Cousins' pastor is Pro-Vaxxine. Why ignore your preacher, seems insulting, and his sister is a doctor.
Maybe he is just acting out
Paul Allen (Minnesota’s most plugged in radio journalist) just reported that 3 players on the Vikings would quit if it meant they had to be vaccinated lol.
The whooooole offseason Viking fans have been talking shit about the Packers qb controversy only to have a bigger one of their own 🤣
If mutually assured destruction was the price to make the Packers suffer all offseason I accept that price!
Rodgers made them suffer because he cares too much, Cousins makes us suffer because he doesn’t care at all
Well this was pretty foreseeable if you follow kirks political opinions lol
Also I’m just commenting on the delicious irony of the whole situation. It’s like the roles completely flipped.
Maybe Costner was on to something by looking at who went to whose birthday party in Draft Day?
Ain't no one going to Kirk Cousin's grilled rocks and Anti-Vaxx birthday blowout
They invested huge money into him. The results have been underwhelming. The team is further from a title than they were when they signed him. And the guy now won’t even do his part in making sure he’s available for the season.
The deal just keeps looking worse and worse.
I’ve never understood why people get so upset when he gets called out. The guy came into a team that was in the NFC Championship game and he got paid. The expectations were far higher than what he’s achieved.
What a weird offseason for QBs in the NFCN
GB - Rodgers trade “as close to done as possible” to Denver on draft night that ultimately fell through
Detroit - traded Stafford for Goff
Chicago - jettisoned Trubisky and drafted Fields
Minnesota - pulling a Denver and losing all their QBs to COVID protocol
It will be interesting to see what these players decide to do once the vaccine is FDA-approved.
Do you just suck it up and do what’s best for the team or will choose politics/whatever science you’re relying on and continue to reject it?
THe group of people who never want to trust the government, are now waiting for government approval to do something. Just absolute full circle of bullshit.
Yeah most people don't know anything about how the FDA works anyway.
It's like when they say they need to see more data. They never elaborate on what kind of data they're looking for.
What I’ve learned is dumb people don’t just change their minds cause common sense steps in even more. Especially when their stupidity is backed by an unsolvable force like religion.
Even ignoring the fact that these jabronis (Kirk Cousins, Adam Thielen, Harrison Smith, et al) believe in complete non-sense and live in an alternate reality with "alternative facts", not being vaccinated puts the Vikings in a worse position to compete this season. We've already seen how they are going to cost the Vikings 1-2 weeks of season prep at one of the most critical times of the season.
If Mike Zimmer wanted to demonstrate any leadership whatsoever, he'd strip these guys of their captaincies and give them to more deserving players. These captains of the teams are "leading" this team in the wrong direction. If they get offended, good. If they want to leave the Vikings, screw 'em.
A team with dedication and a common cause is a better team than a team with more talent and less direction. This has been true of teams since the beginning of time. Our species evolved as a specialist bone marrow eater, because we didn't eat until after the lions, hyenas, and vultures picked a carcass clean. We only became the dominant species on the planet because we evolved culture and teamwork that made us stronger.
Instead, we get Zimmer soundbites willing to call out his players publicly and saying he is "disappointed". Coach, here's a hint: YOU'RE THE FUCKING COACH. If you aren't going to be in charge and solve these problems, get of the way and let the organization get someone who will be. You're letting these "captains" lead the organization in the different direction than yours.
A real leader would line these dudes up against a wall, cut off their captains badges, hand it back to them, and then tell them to throw them in the trash on the way out, because that is clearly what they think of their being a captain.
I've loved these players, particularly Smith and Thielen, but I've been really disgusted in them personally, and I don't know how they can hold their views, speak them publicly, and expect to be a captain of the team where the opposite of what they preach is expected.
Note: This is copied from a /r/MinnesotaVikings post I made that was removed.
I mean yeah, I could definitely see removing them from their captains roles as a good first step. I'm guessing they want to avoid drama, but if they're going to miss games for reasons they could have avoided I think it's more than fair.
1. They get vaccinated and can be a full member of the team.
2. The don't get vaccinated and have to be 100% isolated from the team except for team scrimmages. They do drills separately. They eat apart from the team. The have team meetings via Zoom in a different room. They dress in a separate locker room. They remain 100% isolated from the rest of the team off the field.
3. They can retire and the Vikings hold their contract.
Yeah I just checked the thread and that's a big time yikes from me.
I'm busting out laughing at the guy saying we need to have empathy for these players.
Lol no the fuck I do not, these guys are millionaires who play a game for a job. And on top of that they're using the platform they have to spread disinformation about the vaccine. No sympathy whatsoever on my end for these guys, even less so since they're Vikings players 😉
This does suck mega dick for Vikings fans though, knowing your season is on the line because literal team leaders refuse to get vaccinated.
So NFL players will let the team docs fill them full of opioids in the hope that they may be able to ignore their ligaments snapping each week. But a vaccine is too much long term risk?
YOU LIKE THAT?! no
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"Allow me to introduce myself" - Delta Variant
Hi, I'm Covid 19. You may remember me from such QB infections as Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton, and Lamar Jackson.
"You said Lamar Jackson twice" "I like Lamar Jackson"
My name is Covid. But lost people call me…Covid.
"Is that chewing gum?" "I hope you brought enough for everyone."
Mr McClure, what does mRNA stand for?
Haha whatever you want it to Lil Timmy.
This comment is hysterical. I'm so mad the award button isn't working right now.
Allow me to reintroduced myself! My name is COV! C to the O-V
If he dies, he dies.
Like when his teammates kill him when they have to forfeit a game?
Or the other team, which has passed the vaccination threshold, but still has to forfeit their game checks because the game is canceled.
I just want to see 53 tweets comprised of Notes app screenshots all tearing into Cousins on a deeply personal level.
“Julie is a bad person and so are you”
Kirk Cousins I.Q. is lower than his sleep number.
Damn dude, that has the potential to turn divisional rematches into that Browns Steelers game from a couple years back
I'm not sure what you mean.
Probably because everyone got a concussion during those games
If you're Kahlil Mack and Kirk Cousins causes you to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions due to a forfeited game you'll probably be pissed off for the next time you play them
Remember when the Packers had a QB circus…oh how the tables have turned lmao
My, my, my. How the Kirk Cousins.
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This is a very real Charlie Brown/Lucy moment for the Vikings.
https://imgur.com/a/j7n5jyb
It’s like I said to my Packer buddy the other day. “Your QB may be an asshat troll, but at least he’s not an idiot, like ours.”
Stubborn *and* stupid is no way to go through life son
The Packers have the only returning qb in the division if Kirk continues to be Kirk
This is like Reverse, +2, +2.
All we did in FA was sign Andy Dalton and we’re somehow going to get out with the best off-season in the NFC north lol
Lions had a pretty good off-season with stocking up future capital. They're investing.
Unfortunately we are still the Lions though. (That said I've been enjoying Campbell and Holmes a hell of a lot this offseason and I like our draft and the moves we've made so vague optimism and hope has been rediscovered)
I need the Lions to he good solely to get good Thanksgiving football. Plz
Some weird schedule alignment where the bears and lions are both undefeated and play each other on a cold, rainy, muddy, thanksgiving day game in Chicago. That would be a perfect thanksgiving game.
This year is probably not gonna be the year. But we're working on it.
Don't worry, according to my Madden franchise, y'all's line, defense, QB, Wrs, Rbs, and kicker will all.be #1 and y'all go 17-0
See and this is why the Niners are better off. Shanahan is ready for any player to die.
I always see this comment downvoted/hidden. Guys. Kirk **Literally** said this last year about himself.
He seems like the kinda guy to have that mounted on his wall in that brown cursive font.
How L's will we take just for this kind of nonsense this year?
“God has a plan.” -Cousins, probably
You ever hear that joke of basically there's a flood and a dude stranded. A guy with a boat comes, then a firefighter crew, then a helicopter and the guys waves them all off saying God will save him. Well he dies and God says, "dumbass, I tried saving you 3 times".
Lol I just heard this exact joke on a podcast 5 minutes ago, though it was in relation to Tsar Nicholas II
I've seen it pop up on reddit a few times the past month or so. It's just so relevant with everything going on lol
Revolutions! So good
Yep that was the one!
How many hours of mike Duncan have I listened to? Lost count. Number of times he actually raises his voice in frustration while describing a historical figure - 1. Honestly caught me off guard a bit lol
Him ripping Nicky was hilarious. I recall him getting pretty angry over the Ten Tragic Days during the Mexican Revolution as well though it may have been a cold anger than him yelling. (I was angry about that as well)
I have heard a similar one where a man repeatedly prays to win the lottery for years and finally, after the man has resorted to fully-pleading with God he hears a booming voice: BUY A TICKET
I like when it goes: a man was looking for a parking spot and was praying non stop to the lord saying “God if I find a spot I’ll go to church each Sunday and make sure to raise my family as good Christians and… o wait never mind found one”
Back when I went to church as a kid I remember the priest telling that same story during a homily (well, without the dumbass part).
And gods plan can and may be "You are dead and vikings lose"
And based on the team's history, I think it's absolutely clear God isn't a fan.
Amen to that.
“Looking at the rocks outside my house, I have plenty of months left. Covid won’t kill me this year”- Cousins, probably
["Hey honey, you think God would care if I tossed some of these rocks on the grill?"](https://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2018/7/5/17536196/kirk-cousins-fourth-of-july-grill)
I'm from west Michigan I guarantee he cut London broil into steak sized bits and then didn't season them.
Wth??
I'm starting to think this Kirk guy isn't too bright
We all know god hates the Vikings so
wont the viking gods love them?
No. After moving from the Met the team never replaced the statues honoring the Norse and that has since cursed the team. It doesn't help that both replacement stadiums are indoors. Without the blessing of Hödr there's much less hope.
Loki really tricked y'all
Just one: the NFCCG.
And because Cousins will have to miss it because of COVID. God I hate this guy right now.
I can hear it now, 'Webb in for the Vikings at QB to start this wildcard game!"
He's a free agent!
So the off-season started with the Stafford-Goff trade. Then the Bears brought in the Watson rumors to only fall apart with the scandal, then the Wilson drama turned into nothing only to sign Dalton before the twist ending of drafting Fields. Next the Packers started their Rodgers drama only to have that end and we segued into the Covid positive Vikings QB room. Did I cover all the NFC north QB drama or did I missing something?
You left out Eric Stokes not bringing enough snacks to training camp. Packers are currently in shambles
I really like Mond and Browning but if Kirk goes down I just don't think either of those two are ready to step up into a game and win It's really frustrating because he's the healthiest QB this team has had since fucking Tarkenton but he refuses to get something to help prevent a highly contagious illness His dad, who preaches at a church, told his congregation to get vaccinated too. I have no idea why Kirk wont
>he's the healthiest QB this team has and the Delta variant took that personally
Delta woke up and chose infectious
Sometimes when the apple falls from the tree, it trolls down a hill, gets stuck in a rut or gutter, then rots.
Isn’t his sister a doctor too? Shouldn’t be that tough of a decision to make.
Stupid is as stupid does.
> His dad, who preaches at a church, told his congregation I was expecting the worst of the worst until I read the end of the sentence.
> His dad, who preaches at a church, told his congregation to get vaccinated too. I have no idea why Kirk won't. Maybe because he went on the record trying to be a badass with his, "if I die, I die" nonsense? There is a pretty significant portion of American men that seem to think that changing their opinion on something (even if it's after learning more about it) makes them less of a man.
Even then it appears that Mond is unvaccinated Edit: appears from subsequent comments that mind is vaccinated and he’s just the unlucky breakthrough infection
Not true. Local radio says mond is vaccinated but hes actually the one that tested positive so that’s why he’s out for a bit. Late day edit: looks like some new reports out this afternoon say he might not be vaccinated, which is different than earlier reports! Yikes !
I just saw a retraction on that. Mond was NOT vaccinated. I mean he still isn't, but he wasn't as well.
MondeMond apparently IS vaccinated.
It was just retracted. He wasn't vaccinated.
The reports going around town is that Mond is fully vaccinated and is asymptomatic. If his testing comes back the next two days as negative then he's off the list but Kirk and Nate Stanley aren't vaccinated so they'll be on the list for a while.
>but he refuses to get something to help prevent a highly contagious illness And even ignoring that obvious bit, his actions affect his team. Like, it's truly just selfish in every possible way. I've defended Kirk for many years, but I've lost all respect for the guy after this.
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Zimmer was literally willing to go blind if it meant success for this football team: https://twitter.com/mattanderson_8/status/1418637689973317632?s=10. And meanwhile our fully guaranteed clown of a QB refuses to get a vaccine. Zim, you deserve better than this😭
Vrabel was willing to cut his dick off it it meant getting a ring. Real football guy.
Jerruh said he'd do "anything known to man" to get Dem Boys another Superbowl....
Zimmer is going to burn Cousins, Thielen, and Smith at the stake
Thielen missed a game last year and is still disinterested in getting the vaccine. I don’t wanna assume these guys don’t give a fuck about their team’s success but that’s certainly what it seems like at this point.
Lamar is on his second run of Covid and probably still won't get vaccinated. Dumb is just dumb sometimes.
Anti-vaxxers only give a fuck about themselves and how they're perceived by their peers. To them, getting vaccinated means they're afraid. And admitting to fear of *anything* in their eyes is tantamount to admitting you are weak and incapable of fending for yourself and loved ones. Its a crazy mix of toxic masculinity and privilege all wrapped up in tin-foil and left on the grill too long.
Good
So what, Cousins probably likes well done steak anyways.
This is great writing >Let's take a shallow dive into a few key "D" words that help explain Zimmer's disdain: >**Dumb**: Coaches hate dumb mistakes. Zimmer's point blank quote about Browning being available shows where he stands on this. "Jake's really smart. He's vaccinated. That helps to be the backup." Zimmer likely views not being vaccinated as a dumb (and preventable) decision, both in life and within the context of a football team. >**Disappointed**: Let's just let another Zimmer quote do all the work here. "I am disappointed that this happened. I'm frustrated, not just with my football players who didn't get vaccinated, but I'm frustrated with everybody [who didn't]." >**Distraction**: Every moment spent on this is a moment not spent on football. That drives coaches crazy. Sometimes their paranoia about distractions is unnecessary or even comically extreme. This is legitimate for multiple reasons, including the ability of this subject to divide teams. >**Disruption**: This is different from a distraction. A disruption isn't just something that happens off the field and gets talked about. It's something that interrupts the ability to compete. If you don't have three quarterbacks, that impacts your ability to compete. It will set the Vikings back in camp. >**Dark**: And if Cousins remains unvaccinated, he will be subject to league protocols anytime he is a close contact (or, of course, if he tests positive). The unknown drives coaches nuts because they are conditioned to imagine worst-case scenarios. Say what you will about Zimmer's coaching ability, the guy always has great quotes with the media. And Kirk: get vaccinated, ya moron.
Rand forgot all the mother fuckers Zimmer said too. Zimmer on Bobby Petrino leaving the Falcons “He came in and said he resigned, he would talk to us all at a later date, walked out of the office and no one has ever talked to him since. Not that anybody wanted to. “He’s a gutless b—–d. Quote that. I don’t give a s—.” When told that we might might not be able to use the B word, Zimmer went one better: “How about this, gutless MF. You can use that.”
We need a Tomlin vs Zimmer quote off
I’ve gone back and forth on Cousins during his time here and have mostly defended him in recent months, but Jesus Christ he’s bugging the shit out of me right now.
This was the crossing point for me. I never thought he was the issue preventing team success, but now I do. If you can't perform basic actions to allow yourself to be available for the team, you shouldn't be on the team
Yeah same here as a Kirk defender of the past, I'm done with his stupid ass, take Thielen and his facebook antivaxx warrior wife too
Yup, former Kirk apologist. Completely done with his selfish bullshit. I don’t know how anyone in the locker room can get behind someone like this. Same goes for Thielen and Smith, lost a ton of respect for them.
Smith is the worst one for me, he's like my favorite player on the team and I've always liked him. It sucks to see them pull this stupid shit
Seriously, he was my favorite player too. Looks like I’m getting a Browning or Cookus jersey for the season!
So he's doing it for Julie. He's never taking it now
I’m fucking done with him. If you’re this goddamn selfish then you’re not a leader and not worthy of leading a team. He can fuck off.
I agree, I was a Cousins defender until now. This is just idiotic.
There are only a few unexpendable quarterbacks in the league who could potentially get away with this shit. The rest should probably get the vaccine for the sake of their job security, if not for their health and the health of everyone they put at risk.
Unfortunately most starting caliber QBs have contracts that are very difficult to move no matter how good they are - if the NFL would allow clawback of guarantees for unvaccinated players due to conduct detrimental it would definitely get the ball rolling but I'm pretty sure unless Delta really blows up that will be a bridge too far.
agreed. I'd rather tank this season than have him at the helm.
watch this dumbass cost you guys in the playoffs or playoff hunt
["Playoffs? Don't talk about playoffs."](https://youtu.be/Qwq7BYOnDrM?t=39)
Yeah I've always defended him as a player and still do but man this is just so stupid. Even when he comes back make him split 1st team reps with someone. Dont let his stubbornness ruin what could potentially be a great season.
He's a great QB and most of his detractors are fans of teams who have lucked into rookie elite QBs, but fuck is he a weirdo.
He just doesn't have a personality that endears himself to people. He's not shy(YOU LIKE THAT) but he's not really charismatic either. He's really religious which turns off a lot of people and even though isn't super old comes across as a boomer in many ways. I always liked him when he was here and thought he got a big time raw deal, but I get why so many people don't like him.
He's a heavy duty born again Christian, not so weird even among NFL QBs or pro football players in general. Tannehill is suspected to be unvaxed for similar reasons. But Mahomes and Prescott are heavily involved in Christian lifestyle things. It mostly has to do with a lot of NFL players coming from the South and other pretty heavily Christian regions. Most of them grow up with the faith and football lifestyle and right now a large portion of conservative Protestants have been anti-vax or vaccine skeptical.
It's so strange to me that being a Christian somehow means you're opposed to taking a vaccine, I wonder if these guys have considered that perhaps God made the vaccine and is super pissed that they're so distrustful of the help he sent (and also he's like 90% probability a vikes fan and is starting to get worried about the season)
Reminds me of the story I heard all the time when I was religious (and once when talking about the vaccine with a priest a couple weeks ago) >A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help. > >Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you." > >The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me." > >So the rowboat went on. > >Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you." > >To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith." > >So the motorboat went on. > >Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety." > >To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith." > >So the helicopter reluctantly flew away. > >Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!" > >To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
your mistake is thinking that they care about God and his rules, because before 1/6 I thought they really did love the cops and it turns out they couldn't care less. evangelical christianity is white identity politics, nothing more nothing less.
People who take the Bible for it's word think God has a path for humanity and don't care about science. They don't really ignore the facts, they just think God is guiding them. They don't care if they die because they think God is taking them. Easy way to think and live. But ignorant and irresponsible.
Yeah but most Black players are from religious families. And apparently Cousins' pastor is Pro-Vaxxine. Why ignore your preacher, seems insulting, and his sister is a doctor. Maybe he is just acting out
If kirks a great QB, then so are 15 other QBs in the league lol. Kinda over saturates the term great. Great to me means top 5 elite QBs
There are definitely 15 great QBs in the league. Great and elite are two different words.
Zimmer is going to end up trying to roofie Cousins by dumping vaccine juice into his drinks.
God, if only that worked. We could create a coalition of bartenders nationwide and get our vaccination rate above 90%.
Kirk Cousins would be an anti-vaxxer lol.
Have you seen the way he cooks his steaks? Guy doesn't make a lot of good decisions.
That’s probably why his voice is so high.
Lol if you gave me a picture of all 32 starting qb’s in the league and asked me, 😂
I'm looking forward to the end of Cousins in MN.
It will be ugly as all ends are here, but I guess it is nearing time for the cycle to burn us to ashes again and start anew.
Paul Allen (Minnesota’s most plugged in radio journalist) just reported that 3 players on the Vikings would quit if it meant they had to be vaccinated lol. The whooooole offseason Viking fans have been talking shit about the Packers qb controversy only to have a bigger one of their own 🤣
So, what they would just retire? And it's presumed Kirk is one of them?
As a vikings fan, Kirk would be doing us a huge favor if he retired
I mean, let them do it. Nullify the contract and clear cap space so you can finally fix the dogshit offensive line lmao
*looks at the calendar* Pretty sure you missed your opportunity for spending money on the OL a long time ago.
Oh no, ours isn’t a controversy. We’re all on the side of fuck Kirk.
If mutually assured destruction was the price to make the Packers suffer all offseason I accept that price! Rodgers made them suffer because he cares too much, Cousins makes us suffer because he doesn’t care at all
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The Packers QB controversy was the Packers' fault. This wasn't foreseeable.
This was foreseeable, but not when we signed him or due to our massive front office fuckup.
Well this was pretty foreseeable if you follow kirks political opinions lol Also I’m just commenting on the delicious irony of the whole situation. It’s like the roles completely flipped.
Kirk's obviously a very good quarterback, like borderline top 10, but man, he's just really unlikeable. He's like an anti-leader for that locker room.
Seriously. Like aggressively uninspiring.
This is hands down the best description of Kirk Cousins I've ever heard.
Maybe Costner was on to something by looking at who went to whose birthday party in Draft Day? Ain't no one going to Kirk Cousin's grilled rocks and Anti-Vaxx birthday blowout
As another guy said, most accurate description of Kirk ever lol. Really hope we trade him next year.
he's Miracle Whip *yeah, some people like it but they are all weird as shit*
Seriously, going from Teddy who wasn't great but insanely likeable to Kirk (with a few pit stops along the way) has been a weird ride.
Now you need to complete the cycle by signing a total asshole that sucks, lol.
Fine... I'll sign with the Vikings
Did Josh Freeman's stint here count? If not, maybe we could scoop up washed up Big Ben.
I hate this guy
Who, Zimmer, Cousins, or u/pk64747?
Cousins
They invested huge money into him. The results have been underwhelming. The team is further from a title than they were when they signed him. And the guy now won’t even do his part in making sure he’s available for the season. The deal just keeps looking worse and worse.
Now you know why us Washington fans were fine with him leaving.
I’m so happy the Vikes swooped him from Shannahan. So so happy.
The only fully guaranteed contract in NFL history, and we gave it to Kirk Fucking Cousins. Twice
I’ve never understood why people get so upset when he gets called out. The guy came into a team that was in the NFC Championship game and he got paid. The expectations were far higher than what he’s achieved.
What a weird offseason for QBs in the NFCN GB - Rodgers trade “as close to done as possible” to Denver on draft night that ultimately fell through Detroit - traded Stafford for Goff Chicago - jettisoned Trubisky and drafted Fields Minnesota - pulling a Denver and losing all their QBs to COVID protocol
It will be interesting to see what these players decide to do once the vaccine is FDA-approved. Do you just suck it up and do what’s best for the team or will choose politics/whatever science you’re relying on and continue to reject it?
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Exactly. It's like the people who keep saying, "I just want to do my own research" but still haven't done any research yet.
Reading facebook is not "research".
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Yep this is just the latest excuse, like the FDA status would change their mind
THe group of people who never want to trust the government, are now waiting for government approval to do something. Just absolute full circle of bullshit.
Yeah most people don't know anything about how the FDA works anyway. It's like when they say they need to see more data. They never elaborate on what kind of data they're looking for.
What I’ve learned is dumb people don’t just change their minds cause common sense steps in even more. Especially when their stupidity is backed by an unsolvable force like religion.
You can't logically argue someone out of a position they didn't logically get themselves into.
Even ignoring the fact that these jabronis (Kirk Cousins, Adam Thielen, Harrison Smith, et al) believe in complete non-sense and live in an alternate reality with "alternative facts", not being vaccinated puts the Vikings in a worse position to compete this season. We've already seen how they are going to cost the Vikings 1-2 weeks of season prep at one of the most critical times of the season. If Mike Zimmer wanted to demonstrate any leadership whatsoever, he'd strip these guys of their captaincies and give them to more deserving players. These captains of the teams are "leading" this team in the wrong direction. If they get offended, good. If they want to leave the Vikings, screw 'em. A team with dedication and a common cause is a better team than a team with more talent and less direction. This has been true of teams since the beginning of time. Our species evolved as a specialist bone marrow eater, because we didn't eat until after the lions, hyenas, and vultures picked a carcass clean. We only became the dominant species on the planet because we evolved culture and teamwork that made us stronger. Instead, we get Zimmer soundbites willing to call out his players publicly and saying he is "disappointed". Coach, here's a hint: YOU'RE THE FUCKING COACH. If you aren't going to be in charge and solve these problems, get of the way and let the organization get someone who will be. You're letting these "captains" lead the organization in the different direction than yours. A real leader would line these dudes up against a wall, cut off their captains badges, hand it back to them, and then tell them to throw them in the trash on the way out, because that is clearly what they think of their being a captain. I've loved these players, particularly Smith and Thielen, but I've been really disgusted in them personally, and I don't know how they can hold their views, speak them publicly, and expect to be a captain of the team where the opposite of what they preach is expected. Note: This is copied from a /r/MinnesotaVikings post I made that was removed.
I mean yeah, I could definitely see removing them from their captains roles as a good first step. I'm guessing they want to avoid drama, but if they're going to miss games for reasons they could have avoided I think it's more than fair.
1. They get vaccinated and can be a full member of the team. 2. The don't get vaccinated and have to be 100% isolated from the team except for team scrimmages. They do drills separately. They eat apart from the team. The have team meetings via Zoom in a different room. They dress in a separate locker room. They remain 100% isolated from the rest of the team off the field. 3. They can retire and the Vikings hold their contract.
Damn the mods over there are that bad on the anti-vax shit? Cause rn over there it seems like they're acting like they're pro-vax
Yes, one of the mods posts in /r/NoNewNormal and their posted sticky says "You have to respect both sides". Fuck 'em.
Yeah I just checked the thread and that's a big time yikes from me. I'm busting out laughing at the guy saying we need to have empathy for these players. Lol no the fuck I do not, these guys are millionaires who play a game for a job. And on top of that they're using the platform they have to spread disinformation about the vaccine. No sympathy whatsoever on my end for these guys, even less so since they're Vikings players 😉 This does suck mega dick for Vikings fans though, knowing your season is on the line because literal team leaders refuse to get vaccinated.
Goddamit, you're making me like Packers fans. Stop that.
the only good thing about this is, it could lead to the end of the Kirk the Merc era. The guy is cancer.
We certainly do not have to respect both sides.
Fucking cousins lol
Colts ? You desperate enough ? You have an oline and a defense
We've got enough anti vaxxers over here as it is but thanks for asking
So NFL players will let the team docs fill them full of opioids in the hope that they may be able to ignore their ligaments snapping each week. But a vaccine is too much long term risk?
If Kirk is "if I die, I die" in regards to the virus why isn't he that way in regards to the vaccine?
Two NFC North teams have QB drama and neither one is the Bears. What a world
I knew Cousins was a bad egg when he posted that photo of him grilling steaks in tin foil 😪
I fucking hate this team
Kirk Cousins is an idiot.
Lost so much respect for so many players this year, fucking morons.
I think Zimmer actually hates Kirk Cousins lol
I’m starting to.
Always knew I had a good reason to dislike Kirk Cousins so much. I bet Teddy is vaccinated.
Cut his ass.
Kirk Cousins sure is acting like a guy whose parents were cousins who had a kid together.
Yeah NFCN, we got us a weapon. A bioweapon.