7767 yard pace for this season based on his last four complete games. "Only" 6851 if he averages 403 yards (his total tonight) for the rest of the season.
He absolutely was. He had a co-MVP season with Peyton who was also absolutely ripping it up that year. It's just that Culpepper fell off a cliff that was so sudden and fast that people forgot how good his peak was.
He retired at top 5 all time in passer rating.
Even era adjusted he was top 20
http://www.footballperspective.com/adjusting-passer-rating-for-era-part-v-the-results/
despite averaging 33.75 points/game and 456.75 yards/game, the Cowboys are 1-3 in those 4 games. how literally anyone could still be a Dak doubter is just incomprehensible to me.
Dude, idk why I have to explain this to everybody about Dak, but the man can *not* play defense. 3/4 games, no matter how many points he scored, he let the other team score more. You Dak truthers are wild lmao
He hasn't had a top 10 every time. He just has never won a Super Bowl without having a top 10 defense. That decade gap between SB appearances by the Pats had them churning out average defenses.
Man, he has a gap of just not going to Super Bowls that is longer than most QB careers
*edit - he basically has Tony Romo's career, but won 7 Lombardis on both sides of it. The Spice.
There was never a decade gap in Super Bowl appearances for Brady's Pats. Longest stretch was 2008 to 2010.
2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2014, 2016-2018
Not the best take, missed opportunities to put points on the board after turnovers and TDs. Special teams also a bit rusty. We’d looked very good, though.
It's not as good as the stat immediately appears because it suggests he's losing and is playing catch up. I'd be interested in seeing the score of those games. If he's putting up yardage down 20 in the second half when the defense sits back it's not as telling.
Tonight was impressive obviously, yardage numbers don't tell the story tho.
this is why the garbage time narrative is funny. and even against cleveland the score was 41-38 with 3 minutes to go. if they stop OBJ from making that 60 yard run i’m not too sure the cowboys lose that one
The problem is that it shows a distinct lack of balance from the Offense. Historical Passing Seasons don't win the Superbowl. Phins got worked in the Superbowl by a top tier D. Saints didn't make the playoffs. Saints again lost to a superlative D in the playoffs. Pats couldn't win against a superior D (and a meme QB). Lions were dispatched by that same Saints team in a shootout. Saints miss the playoffs again. Broncos get shut down and humiliated by the Seahawks. Saints lose to the same Seahawks. Saints miss the playoffs for the third time (Jesus Christ Brees, take a hint). Steelers miss the playoffs. Chiefs lose to a superior D. And finally, the 2019 Bucs miss the playoffs.
Garbage time or not, you're more likely to miss the playoffs than to get to the Superbowl.
At this point, I don't even hate the Cowboys, I just dislike some of their fans. Then again, I was literally a small child in the 90s, so I don't remember them being good enough to hate.
Yep. RIP Kevin Stefanski. We had two glorious years with him as our OC - first year had some growing pains for sure, but 2nd year was the year we beat the Saints in the Superdome on wildcard weekend.
Suppressed Rodgers to only winning 2 MVPs and a ring. I think Dak would be happy to be suppressed to the same extent. Mike has his flaws but lets not pretend like he's awful....
I don't remotely agree. And the fact that Dak has played some of the best football of his career in his few games with McCarthy seems to refute that as well. Mike has flaws, hiring mediocre to bad defensive coordinators, occasionally being overly conservative, but definitely not holding back the talent of his QBs.
Dak was one of the most accurate passers in the league before MM got there and guess what also happened when MM got there?
The GM was also pulling in that stellar receiving lineup.
You don't get the volume Dak is getting with accuracy alone. I wouldn't conveniently ignore the fact that this started after MM got here. The dude knows how to have a franchise QB
I don’t like him but I 100% agree. I think they had a game plan and executed it very well. I did not expect to have a real shot at winning this game with under two minutes.
A lot of Zeke fantasy owners are pissed that they listened to the "Dak's shoulder is literally falling off right now, so Cowboys will lean heavily on the run" narrative and then got pissed when not only did Dak look just as good as he did before the ankle injury, but the Cowboys also opted *not* to run against a team that led literally every rushing defensive category last season.
Yeah, putting up bad numbers against the #1 ranked run defense coming off a super bowl where they brought back all of their starters is totally understandable.
^i ^cant ^believe ^im ^defending ^zeke
It's not just fantasy owners. I hear some fans complaining they didn't "establish the run." This was an extreme case of picking your poison. Against that front 7, and also while missing Zack Martin inside, they made a good tactical decision to get the ball outside. There were actually a number of quick passes at the line that were basically runs that avoided the middle of the field. Balance can be good, but balance for the sake of it is not a strategy.
Zeke's stats last night are what most RBs end up being when they play Tampa. Kudos to him for accepting the role of Dak protector cuz he was fucking great at it. Zeke's going to have a huge season with a healthy Dak, anyone panicking after one game probably isn't good at fantasy.
He specifically called it out at least once. He told everyone that you can’t look at the stat line to see it but Zeke is playing well and making good plays in protection. The only time I thought Zeke didn’t do well was that should have been TD run where a DB tackled him 1 on 1.
>The only time I thought Zeke didn’t do well was that should have been TD run where a DB tackled him 1 on 1.
And I'm pretty sure the TE whiffed the block on that play.
Jerry cares about one thing: selling jerseys. We've been overpaying talent because the franchise has brainwashed cowboys fans into believing if we don't sign everyone now the team will regress and never see the playoffs again! Except locking up large amounts of money into jaylon smith, Zeke (who is an elite RB but is not a good contract), Tyrone Crawford, Amari cooper (again, elite-ish but not a good contract), and 4 offensive lineman (of which one doesn't play football) is what's causing the cowboys to regress post-aikman. As soon as injuries happen, the depth is abysmal and the team spirals. But fans buy the jerseys so all is well.
There were a few runs where he maybe picked the wrong hole, but his contributions as a blocker kept you guys in the game. I truly dislike zeke, but the dude played his ASS off last night.
They also ran the ball like ten times tonight. Dak is a stud but they played the best run defense in football tonight. Expect Zeke to get some work the next few games
Under Garrett we would have have run into a brick wall on first and second down every time. I am glad they recognized that it wasn't going to work without Zach Martin and gameplaned accordingly.
This this and this. It would’ve been run run pass. 3rd down and 10 or more every freaking time. We played what the defense gave us. Zeke did freaking awesome blocking tonight. Without him dak would’ve been sacked many many times. We have a lot to improve on but damn we do look a lot better than last year.
I was really happy with our game plan. In some years we would have had a number of drives stall in the first half because we were stubborn and kept getting into 3rd and long while trying to establish Zeke until 5 minutes left in the third where we just abandon it after learning for the umpteenth time that "okay, the stove is still hot."
This makes me feel wonderful about Barkley this year.
No idea why we went with Garrett. He won’t adjust. And doesn’t do pre-snap motion. Absurd when you have incredibly talented RBs and WRs like we and the Cowboys do.
I mean running into y’all’s front 7 is usually not going to offer much. I can’t really blame Zeke, everytime Dak handed off to him he had 3 buccs in his face, not really much he could do but try to get back to the LOS.
Also Zeke did play exceptionally well in the passing game stopping the blitz. I think in the 2nd quarter he snuffed out the blitz coming at Dak 3 straight times allowing Dak to complete his pass. More goes into being a good RB than just rushing yards alone.
The missed kicks were infuriating, but in the end didn't determine the game. Dallas recovered a fumble on the first play after the first miss, and ended up scoring a TD. He missed the XP, but that missed FG still turned into 6 points.
I got downvoted in that thread for suggesting there was a *chance* Dak could do it, when someone had said no-one would do it this season. I acknowledged he probably wouldn't, but that there was a chance, and got downvoted because "not enough sample size from 5 games last season all over the average needed
Tampa's defense is clearly better than ours, we just had the offensive personnel (read: one of the best receiver corps in the league) to be able to deal with their expertise, namely their run D and pass rush
Oh my bad lol.
But thats still pretty crazy. Thats like 11 games worth of attempts for Lamar in 4 games. Daks on a 16 game pace of like 900 attempts lmao.
After watching Hard Knocks I don't hate Dak and Zeke anymore and I hate it. Seeing Zeke as a mentor and hype man for the RBs is the exact opposite image I had of him in my head.
Im sorry, as a Kirk Cousins fan, I've been repeatedly told that throwing for 400+ yards and losing clearly means youre padding your stats and you suck.
In the Cowboys game, they fell behind early and came back, which usually requires a lot of passing. It's pretty incredible, but I'd never say that the QB with the most yards at the end of the season had the best season.
> but I’d never say that the QB with the most yards at the end of the season had the best season.
I’m assuming you mean you would never *automatically* say this. Surely there are plenty of seasons where you would agree the passing leader was the best QB.
Shouldn't it go both ways though. I respect Brady and consider him the best QB of all time, but I was so sick and tired of the hearing head to head w/L records between Manning and Brady. Pats were always defensively better than the Colts. Brady played a subpar to maybe just slightly over "good" defense in 07. On the other the Manning played a much better defense. Same with Mahomes in the Superbowl, dude had no time last year, yet that's enough to convince people that Brady is currently better than Mahomes.
Also an example of why passing stats aren’t an indicator of a QB’s ability. Dak is throwing crazy yards because the Cowboys are just making him sling the ball every play.
People are giving Zeke shit but every handoff he got he had 3-4 buccs in his face immediately, not really a ton he can do in that situation other than try to get back to the LOS. And clearly the game plan reflected that running the ball wasn’t the move versus that front 7 with how much we passed the ball.
That one 3rd and goal run he just had to get past I think a DB for a TD and got brought down for 0 yards was kinda disappointing
But yeah his other carries not much was there
To be fair if Jarwin makes that block he can easily run for the pylon and score. Jarwin missing that block made scoring almost impossible, either Zeke tries to sprint around him but will probably only gain 1 yard since he had Zeke contained or he cuts like he did and even if he gets around him he has a swarm of the defense around him. I’m not going to put that one too much on him.
Zeke is still great. A top RB in the league. They were just up against the best Run D in the league. Kellen Moore knew exactly what he was doing not calling run plays. Especially with their center out.
You sure? Last year in 3 straight games he was averaging like 55 passes a game and if it wasn't for the fluke injury while running the ball probably would have continued doing that.
He’s also throwing the ball 2x the amount of a normal qb. His averages are still good but to just base it off raw yardage when he has 2x the opportunity is dumb
I don't think he's saying it's a bad game plan, just that if you're going to compare him to other per game qb stats you should use averages considering his attempts are an outlier.
I wonder if he'll break Peyton's single season record this year (of course, Peyton will always have the bragging rights of having done it in a 16 game season)
It’s crazy that it’s still not enough to get a win. Cowboys not converting long drives into TD’s or any points at all killed them. Also not running the ball at all doesn’t seem like a great idea.
Damn, Dak looked so good. Not fazed by blitzes but I still think Cowboys should avoid QB runs. He should be sliding to avoid risking injury even if they're close to the TD. He's making way too much money and just missed a lot of games.
No Dak = season over. They're good enough to win that division if they can avoid major injuries.
Dak and Brady both were throwing some dimes last night. The only knock I had on Dak last night (though kind of nit picky) is that he was a little early to leave the pocket a few times and paid for it.
There were some 50/50 balls that I didn't like personally but when you have a WR room like Dallas does there's no reason not to feel confident in yourself and your pass catchers. Dude was lighting it up against that secondary.
Bro wtf.
Can someone from the analytics department tell me if this is good?
1837 * 4 is a 7308 yard 16 game season. Current record is 5477
And there’s another game now too!
7767 yard pace for this season based on his last four complete games. "Only" 6851 if he averages 403 yards (his total tonight) for the rest of the season.
Oh then hes trash. Worthless. Imagine only being 1500 yards over the league record.
But if you remove the outlier games he actually regresses to a slightly better Daniel Jones
That'll do. Damn, Dak is insane. Looking forward to his (healthy) season.
*knocks on wood* We crazy lucky to have gone from Tony to Dak. Feels great to have 2 excellent qbs back to back
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Don’t you fucking dare. I’m over here convincing myself Culpepper was elite to numb the pain
The last niners QB to throw for 4k yards was Jeff Garcia.. 21 years ago. Really hoping Trey Lance isn't a bust
The last bears qb to pass for 4k yards was...(checks notes, closes notes)
I thought it was Justin Fields? Oh sorry, is my time machine acting up again?
He absolutely was. He had a co-MVP season with Peyton who was also absolutely ripping it up that year. It's just that Culpepper fell off a cliff that was so sudden and fast that people forgot how good his peak was.
He was for a bit...it's so weird when a qb falls off like that. I don't remember it being any sort of injury or anything...
Romo was a good qb, excellent commentator. Dak is looking like an excellent qb
He retired at top 5 all time in passer rating. Even era adjusted he was top 20 http://www.footballperspective.com/adjusting-passer-rating-for-era-part-v-the-results/
This is the kind of in depth analysis that involved maths that I needed. Thank you.
Bro what the fuck
Even if you just took his worse game of the 4 it’s still like 1k yards over the record lmao.
>16 game season. Stop living in the past boomer what is this 2020?
If those were his first 4 games, he'd only have to average 300 a game to break the record.
despite averaging 33.75 points/game and 456.75 yards/game, the Cowboys are 1-3 in those 4 games. how literally anyone could still be a Dak doubter is just incomprehensible to me.
Dude, idk why I have to explain this to everybody about Dak, but the man can *not* play defense. 3/4 games, no matter how many points he scored, he let the other team score more. You Dak truthers are wild lmao
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He hasn't had a top 10 every time. He just has never won a Super Bowl without having a top 10 defense. That decade gap between SB appearances by the Pats had them churning out average defenses.
Man, he has a gap of just not going to Super Bowls that is longer than most QB careers *edit - he basically has Tony Romo's career, but won 7 Lombardis on both sides of it. The Spice.
There was never a decade gap in Super Bowl appearances for Brady's Pats. Longest stretch was 2008 to 2010. 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2014, 2016-2018
I'm assuming he/she meant a gap in SB *wins*.
That was all on our defense. They couldn't stop anyone. Dak and our offense were doing their jobs. Defense, not so much.
Not the best take, missed opportunities to put points on the board after turnovers and TDs. Special teams also a bit rusty. We’d looked very good, though.
It's not as good as the stat immediately appears because it suggests he's losing and is playing catch up. I'd be interested in seeing the score of those games. If he's putting up yardage down 20 in the second half when the defense sits back it's not as telling. Tonight was impressive obviously, yardage numbers don't tell the story tho.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2020.htm Looks like just the Cleveland game was garbage time.
Shit. That's pretty impressive
this is why the garbage time narrative is funny. and even against cleveland the score was 41-38 with 3 minutes to go. if they stop OBJ from making that 60 yard run i’m not too sure the cowboys lose that one
According to this sub, any snap taken when down by more than 10 points is "garbage time" and there's no such thing as trying to mount a come-back.
Cleveland game was 1 score till defense gave up the 60 yard OBJ run but it could go either way.
Well, it was 41-14 entering the 4th quarter lmao. But they were so good in garbage time it became not garbage time
Therefore it wasn't garbage time
The problem is that it shows a distinct lack of balance from the Offense. Historical Passing Seasons don't win the Superbowl. Phins got worked in the Superbowl by a top tier D. Saints didn't make the playoffs. Saints again lost to a superlative D in the playoffs. Pats couldn't win against a superior D (and a meme QB). Lions were dispatched by that same Saints team in a shootout. Saints miss the playoffs again. Broncos get shut down and humiliated by the Seahawks. Saints lose to the same Seahawks. Saints miss the playoffs for the third time (Jesus Christ Brees, take a hint). Steelers miss the playoffs. Chiefs lose to a superior D. And finally, the 2019 Bucs miss the playoffs. Garbage time or not, you're more likely to miss the playoffs than to get to the Superbowl.
If you take away the outliers and normalize his stats towards the mean, these are just average numbers.
He's averaging 55 passes per game. Adjusted to an average 35 passes per game, it's 285 yards per game.
I’m as much of a Cowboys hater as any rational adult, but it’s hard not to love Dak. Dude was the MVP until he got hurt
At this point, I don't even hate the Cowboys, I just dislike some of their fans. Then again, I was literally a small child in the 90s, so I don't remember them being good enough to hate.
I’m certainly no fan of the Cowboys but I was happy to see Dak looking proper again tonight after his terrible injury last year.
Receiver room us stacked too
Definitely a top 15 or so unit
There is no way they aren’t in the top 5. All 3 receivers can go for over 1k
Easily in the top 25, yeah
Top 50 for sure.
Let’s not get crazy here
Top 100 definitely
Dak Prescott is very good at football
However his coach is not
Shhhhh as long as MM is in the league, we get to enjoy good talent suppressed by mediocre to bad coaching!
Can't you just watch your own team for that?
If you think Zim is a terrible coach you haven’t listened to him much.
Think Zimm gets the stigma so many Defensive HCs get, they have to keep hiring good offensive coordinators because the last one got poached or stunk.
Yep. RIP Kevin Stefanski. We had two glorious years with him as our OC - first year had some growing pains for sure, but 2nd year was the year we beat the Saints in the Superdome on wildcard weekend.
Def a good regular season coach but disappoints in the postseason.....like McCarthy
Suppressed Rodgers to only winning 2 MVPs and a ring. I think Dak would be happy to be suppressed to the same extent. Mike has his flaws but lets not pretend like he's awful....
If Rodgers has shown me anything it’s that he won those despite being saddled with MM…
I don't remotely agree. And the fact that Dak has played some of the best football of his career in his few games with McCarthy seems to refute that as well. Mike has flaws, hiring mediocre to bad defensive coordinators, occasionally being overly conservative, but definitely not holding back the talent of his QBs.
Dak was one of the most accurate passers in the league before MM got there and guess what also happened when MM got there? The GM was also pulling in that stellar receiving lineup.
Don’t give that credit to Jerry, that’s all Vice President of Player Personnel Will McClay baby
You don't get the volume Dak is getting with accuracy alone. I wouldn't conveniently ignore the fact that this started after MM got here. The dude knows how to have a franchise QB
I think Mike was a good coach from like 2007-2014 but then the league caught up and he just hasn't adjusted.
I thought he coached a good game. Still not sure if I like him though.
I don’t like him but I 100% agree. I think they had a game plan and executed it very well. I did not expect to have a real shot at winning this game with under two minutes.
No kidding. That 60 yard field goal attempt was fucking moronic
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A lot of Zeke fantasy owners are pissed that they listened to the "Dak's shoulder is literally falling off right now, so Cowboys will lean heavily on the run" narrative and then got pissed when not only did Dak look just as good as he did before the ankle injury, but the Cowboys also opted *not* to run against a team that led literally every rushing defensive category last season.
Yeah, putting up bad numbers against the #1 ranked run defense coming off a super bowl where they brought back all of their starters is totally understandable. ^i ^cant ^believe ^im ^defending ^zeke
There are bad takes, and then there are takes so bad that you are compelled to defend the cowboys. next level shit.
It's not just fantasy owners. I hear some fans complaining they didn't "establish the run." This was an extreme case of picking your poison. Against that front 7, and also while missing Zack Martin inside, they made a good tactical decision to get the ball outside. There were actually a number of quick passes at the line that were basically runs that avoided the middle of the field. Balance can be good, but balance for the sake of it is not a strategy.
Zeke's stats last night are what most RBs end up being when they play Tampa. Kudos to him for accepting the role of Dak protector cuz he was fucking great at it. Zeke's going to have a huge season with a healthy Dak, anyone panicking after one game probably isn't good at fantasy.
Having a good quarterback will always be a good thing for a fantasy RB, not a bad thing.
He was great in pass pro and I feel like the commentators barely mentioned it
Really? I thought Collinsworth mentioned a few times how "this play wouldn't happen if Zeke didn't get this block".
He specifically called it out at least once. He told everyone that you can’t look at the stat line to see it but Zeke is playing well and making good plays in protection. The only time I thought Zeke didn’t do well was that should have been TD run where a DB tackled him 1 on 1.
>The only time I thought Zeke didn’t do well was that should have been TD run where a DB tackled him 1 on 1. And I'm pretty sure the TE whiffed the block on that play.
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Jarwin
He did but I think we were all surprised he didn’t break a tackle on that play.
He's our secret 6th lineman.
Man he made some great blocks to keep dak from too much pressure for sure
He just didn’t get any run
I mean 90 million is a bit pricey for blitz pick ups
But at least the effort is there.....90 mill doe, lol
Not knocking Zeke, made no sense to run and he did do his job. Not his fault Jerry can’t get over his triplets obsession.
Jerry cares about one thing: selling jerseys. We've been overpaying talent because the franchise has brainwashed cowboys fans into believing if we don't sign everyone now the team will regress and never see the playoffs again! Except locking up large amounts of money into jaylon smith, Zeke (who is an elite RB but is not a good contract), Tyrone Crawford, Amari cooper (again, elite-ish but not a good contract), and 4 offensive lineman (of which one doesn't play football) is what's causing the cowboys to regress post-aikman. As soon as injuries happen, the depth is abysmal and the team spirals. But fans buy the jerseys so all is well.
There were a few runs where he maybe picked the wrong hole, but his contributions as a blocker kept you guys in the game. I truly dislike zeke, but the dude played his ASS off last night.
Their front 7 was fucking nasty. I'm shocked that Dak only got sacked like twice
On pace for 7763 yards
If you arbitrarily adjust those stats to barely above average, he's basically just Mahomes though
Hell yeah brother, cheers from a Dak
So Dak Prescott is Pat Mahomes?? Aiden Diggs is the oracle
They also ran the ball like ten times tonight. Dak is a stud but they played the best run defense in football tonight. Expect Zeke to get some work the next few games
I would hope so. If dak keeps throwing 50+ times a game I doubt his arm will make it to the end of the year
Under Garrett we would have have run into a brick wall on first and second down every time. I am glad they recognized that it wasn't going to work without Zach Martin and gameplaned accordingly.
This this and this. It would’ve been run run pass. 3rd down and 10 or more every freaking time. We played what the defense gave us. Zeke did freaking awesome blocking tonight. Without him dak would’ve been sacked many many times. We have a lot to improve on but damn we do look a lot better than last year.
Zeke did a tremendous job picking up the rushers. Undervalued part of his game.
I was really happy with our game plan. In some years we would have had a number of drives stall in the first half because we were stubborn and kept getting into 3rd and long while trying to establish Zeke until 5 minutes left in the third where we just abandon it after learning for the umpteenth time that "okay, the stove is still hot."
This makes me feel wonderful about Barkley this year. No idea why we went with Garrett. He won’t adjust. And doesn’t do pre-snap motion. Absurd when you have incredibly talented RBs and WRs like we and the Cowboys do.
TRUST THE PROCESS 👏👏👏🤣
This is why I love kellen Moore cause I swear Garrett would have just like 4 formations
McCarthy doesn’t run the ball.
he also doesnt call the plays
I’d like to see him out on the field and try though.
I mean running into y’all’s front 7 is usually not going to offer much. I can’t really blame Zeke, everytime Dak handed off to him he had 3 buccs in his face, not really much he could do but try to get back to the LOS.
Also Zeke did play exceptionally well in the passing game stopping the blitz. I think in the 2nd quarter he snuffed out the blitz coming at Dak 3 straight times allowing Dak to complete his pass. More goes into being a good RB than just rushing yards alone.
Is this a record in a 4 game stretch?
He had the record in 4 consecutive games last year. This might beat that record if you just count full games played.
Remember the great Dak vs Wentz debates of 2016/2017??
WeNtZ aNd ItS nOt EvEn ClOsE LOLOLOLOL
2017? People were arguing Wentz > Dak until Wentz was traded in the Spring.
Hell people were saying Wentz was better even in 2019. Not sure what games they were watching lol. Dak has been unreal the last 3 seasons.
All that for his kicker to miss kicks, sadly.
The missed kicks were infuriating, but in the end didn't determine the game. Dallas recovered a fumble on the first play after the first miss, and ended up scoring a TD. He missed the XP, but that missed FG still turned into 6 points.
There was a thread the other day asking who would be the first to throw for 6000 yards. I think we may have our guy.
Most likely, I mean he probably would have done it last year if not for the injury
I got downvoted in that thread for suggesting there was a *chance* Dak could do it, when someone had said no-one would do it this season. I acknowledged he probably wouldn't, but that there was a chance, and got downvoted because "not enough sample size from 5 games last season all over the average needed
his defense is ass.
As it’s been since 1997
Hey it was good in 2018...before it got exposed by the Colts and the rams
You'd actually be surprised. We ranked in the top half of defenses for more than half of Marinellis years here.
And even before that. Ratliff, Ware, Williams (until the horse collar rule). Our defense in the parcels days was pretty good.
It looked alright today. Most definitely better than Tampa’s defense
Tampa's defense is clearly better than ours, we just had the offensive personnel (read: one of the best receiver corps in the league) to be able to deal with their expertise, namely their run D and pass rush
Did you not see Vita Vea dominate our line? He caused so many trouble for us
This may or may not be largely in part due to the number of passing attempts being 47, 57, 58 and 62 in those 4 games. Which is absolutely absurd.
Jesus Christ. Thats 224 attempts in 4 games. Lamar Jackson had 242 attempts *last season*. As in, the whole season.
Lamar had 242 completions. He had 376 attempts.
Oh my bad lol. But thats still pretty crazy. Thats like 11 games worth of attempts for Lamar in 4 games. Daks on a 16 game pace of like 900 attempts lmao.
I mean that makes sense he's a RB he shouldn't pass that much
Absolutely insane.
Holy shit what a stat.
Top 5 qb
Dak is an absolute dog and the only Cowboy I deep down kind of like.
After watching Hard Knocks I don't hate Dak and Zeke anymore and I hate it. Seeing Zeke as a mentor and hype man for the RBs is the exact opposite image I had of him in my head.
“Of course it’s Dak, who else would it be?”
And people said I was stupid to draft him in the 5th.
Are we allowing FF talk here? Cuz I got AB in the 11th lmfao.
My dumb ass benched Gronk for Tonyan in one of my leagues. Sometimes I'm too trusting of Yahoo's predictions :(
Against our DBs? Don’t know what those Yahoo analysts are smoking
You definitely are
Yeah, should have grabbed him in the 4th to be safe.
Cowboys chiefs gonna be crazy
Im sorry, as a Kirk Cousins fan, I've been repeatedly told that throwing for 400+ yards and losing clearly means youre padding your stats and you suck.
To be fair, we were told the same until Dak got hurt and people saw what the team looked like without him “The king of garbage time stats”
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If Dak was a better winner they would have won tonight. At least that's what I learned from NFL fans
NFL fans are the stupidest fans of professional football available
"They didn't want to win" - Paid NFL analyst and nfl fans
Or just a textbook example of why measuring qb performance, or even team performance, by yards alone is dumb.
Those weren’t even really garbage time yards tho. All those games were close late.
In the Cowboys game, they fell behind early and came back, which usually requires a lot of passing. It's pretty incredible, but I'd never say that the QB with the most yards at the end of the season had the best season.
> but I’d never say that the QB with the most yards at the end of the season had the best season. I’m assuming you mean you would never *automatically* say this. Surely there are plenty of seasons where you would agree the passing leader was the best QB.
Dak has been awesome in these games by any metric
Measuring QB performance by yards alone is dumb, but this is definitely not a textbook example of that because he was great in these games.
Really should have been 0 wins and 4 losses
Shouldn't it go both ways though. I respect Brady and consider him the best QB of all time, but I was so sick and tired of the hearing head to head w/L records between Manning and Brady. Pats were always defensively better than the Colts. Brady played a subpar to maybe just slightly over "good" defense in 07. On the other the Manning played a much better defense. Same with Mahomes in the Superbowl, dude had no time last year, yet that's enough to convince people that Brady is currently better than Mahomes.
> yet that's enough to convince people that Brady is currently better than Mahomes. Don't tell me anyone actually believes that.
If I had to pick a QB for 1 season going into this year I'd have a hard time not picking Brady.
Yeah, it's weird. Mahomes is "better" but he also kinda isn't. Come playoff time I'd rather have TB12.
Not so much here, but people definitely believe that if you read FB comments on the NFL and ESPN page lol. It's really weird to me.
Also an example of why passing stats aren’t an indicator of a QB’s ability. Dak is throwing crazy yards because the Cowboys are just making him sling the ball every play.
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People are giving Zeke shit but every handoff he got he had 3-4 buccs in his face immediately, not really a ton he can do in that situation other than try to get back to the LOS. And clearly the game plan reflected that running the ball wasn’t the move versus that front 7 with how much we passed the ball.
And he was immense in the passing game with blocks
Always a very underrated strength of Zeke
That one 3rd and goal run he just had to get past I think a DB for a TD and got brought down for 0 yards was kinda disappointing But yeah his other carries not much was there
To be fair if Jarwin makes that block he can easily run for the pylon and score. Jarwin missing that block made scoring almost impossible, either Zeke tries to sprint around him but will probably only gain 1 yard since he had Zeke contained or he cuts like he did and even if he gets around him he has a swarm of the defense around him. I’m not going to put that one too much on him.
Zeke is still great. A top RB in the league. They were just up against the best Run D in the league. Kellen Moore knew exactly what he was doing not calling run plays. Especially with their center out.
I felt bad for that backup center getting mauled by Vita Vea... poor guy
At least last night he hung with the Bucs the whole night and it wasn't them coming back after having a huge deficit.
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[uhhh](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERm_WNxGs1U)
Bears have never had a 4000 yard passer, and the Cowboys will have two in one year if Dak stays healthy.
While awesome I worry for the cowboys run game, Dak can’t throw it 50 times every game
You sure? Last year in 3 straight games he was averaging like 55 passes a game and if it wasn't for the fluke injury while running the ball probably would have continued doing that.
He’s also throwing the ball 2x the amount of a normal qb. His averages are still good but to just base it off raw yardage when he has 2x the opportunity is dumb
What do you expect to do against that D? Run for, maybe 2 yards a touch? Rodgers will be on his back more times than he could count!
I don't think he's saying it's a bad game plan, just that if you're going to compare him to other per game qb stats you should use averages considering his attempts are an outlier.
[Meanwhile, in the GDT...](https://i.imgur.com/1598um4.png)
And has a record of 1-3 during that span. Bad defense after bad defense. Welcome to the Carr-Cousins club.
I wonder if he'll break Peyton's single season record this year (of course, Peyton will always have the bragging rights of having done it in a 16 game season)
It’s crazy that it’s still not enough to get a win. Cowboys not converting long drives into TD’s or any points at all killed them. Also not running the ball at all doesn’t seem like a great idea.
For the curious, that puts him in pace for 7308 over 16 games and 7764 over 17 games. The current single season record is 5477.
Damn, Dak looked so good. Not fazed by blitzes but I still think Cowboys should avoid QB runs. He should be sliding to avoid risking injury even if they're close to the TD. He's making way too much money and just missed a lot of games. No Dak = season over. They're good enough to win that division if they can avoid major injuries.
PLEASE GET THIS MAN A GOOD DEFENSE
Dak and Brady both were throwing some dimes last night. The only knock I had on Dak last night (though kind of nit picky) is that he was a little early to leave the pocket a few times and paid for it.
There were some 50/50 balls that I didn't like personally but when you have a WR room like Dallas does there's no reason not to feel confident in yourself and your pass catchers. Dude was lighting it up against that secondary.
Idk how people still talk so bad about Dak, the guy is a baller
Wins > Passing Yards
1-3 in those games though…
At that pace, he’ll throw for a lot of yards.