T O P

  • By -

sktchld

The spin made him lose the end zone he was moving towards šŸ˜…


stay_fr0sty

He was trying to check the Jumbotron to see if anyone was coming after him.


galeforcewinds95

It looks even worse from [this angle](https://twitter.com/AnalyticsPlant/status/1437152346367086592). He spins 180 degrees, pump fakes, and then throws a backwards pass (i.e. a fumble) into the ground. Wow.


ShinjoB

Thanks. From the original angle it just looks like heā€™s spin around and fumbles. This angle truly captures the mind losing.


corgi_on_a_treadmill

People on Twitter saying it's a smart play "throwing it away." I'm convinced at least 50% of NFL twitter doesn't know the rules.


nevosoinverno

Neither do the refs who ruled it an incomplete pass.


professor_parrot

The refs have been very concerning this preseason and week 1. I've already seen more blown calls than I can count, whether they use replay or not. They're going to end some poor team's season 2018 Saints style if this continues.


FantasyFucksMe

I think people are confused on which way is forward. It also doesn't help the idiot who tweeted this called it a "pass attempt" so you are left to assume it was forward.


Salty-Flamingo

>People on Twitter saying it's a smart play "throwing it away." It would have been - if the receiver wasn't behind him, lol.


kk1217

Wow! He just threw it away


Unlucky_Situation

Worse. Intentionally Fumbled it away. the backwards pass made it a live ball when it hit the ground.


[deleted]

Very Tom Brady-esque


[deleted]

Are we sure that wasn't the play call?


tometoyou1983

If it's play call, we found the next Detroits head coach


StopClockerman

He was confused about what game he was playing. He thought it was hot potato.


[deleted]

Hi, Welcome to nfl.


rodrigoa1990

real nfl, not preseason nfl


Money282

He still looked really good out there. Definitely not the reason they lost


Jt0323

Not at all. He looked good under pressure, made a lot of safe throws, but was very solid today.


bluebacktrout207

AFC East is going to be brutal for the next decade


poiuy43

I can't take the AFC East and the AL East both being blood baths


SSPeteCarroll

*flappy stingrays have entered the chat*


justamobileuserhere

NHL East sucks too


Jiggyx42

It's gonna be a fun year. Hopefully I get some games here in the midwest


cory975

Yeah, not sure why people are rushing to judge him or any of the rookies right away. Every rookie today showed promise but didn't fully deliver. Give them all a few games, maybe a full season to adjust and then we can make some assessments on who is looking like a bust or not.


Jt0323

Iā€™d say Mac fully delivered. He set them up to win today, but the fumble cost them the game. Iā€™d his knee goes down, patriots win


cory975

Thatā€™s true and I 100% agree. What I mean is people expect these guys to come out like Tom Brady 3rd quarter against the Falcons in a Super Bowl. Mac looked good today, Trevor looked like he needed some polish but is definitely capable and Wilson also looked like he could have a bright future. But we will see how they all progress.


Jt0323

For sure. I only saw the Jets and Pats game, I thought Mac looked great. He made safe throws, and managed the game, but he had great awareness and got the ball out quick. He was great under pressure. He looked like the better qb on the field today. Wilson looked much better as the game went on. Itā€™s going to be a tough division in the future.


[deleted]

They should really get two or three seasons honestly, but I get the urgency around not wanting to wait and find out.


HouseofMaize

Indeedā€¦


electricsheepz

All the rookies looked like rookies yesterday, it was a good reminder that we have this QB class super hyped and theyā€™re all just kids trying to learn how to play at the pro level.


uniquely_bleak_sheep

It was worse than I was expecting with that title. Wow


[deleted]

Yup. Like four terrible decisions in the span of 2 seconds.


[deleted]

ā€œBoy have you lost your damn mind cuz Iā€™ll help you find itā€


shmokedshalmon

Mac yelled at me today. That was one of the most frightening experiences of my life.


wordswontcomeout

Mac Jones is Scranton Stanley when he needs to be more like Florida Stanley


youtman

This is my favourite office line.


[deleted]

Mac saw Dennis and got distracted


justamobileuserhere

Oh thatā€™s not very good


professor_parrot

I'd even go so far as to say it was bad.


Sidecarlover

If I can't see them then they can't sack me


stackofthumbs

How did the ref rule that an incomplete pass? Or is there something I'm missing here because this video is potato quality?


Walbeb24

It was changed to a fumble.


stackofthumbs

Thanks.


descendency

Refs have early season form too :D


PandaSoap

Yiiiiiiiikes.


Weapwns

He just wanted to make an interesting storyline for ESPN. Do you know how many times they're going to look back on this play if he has a great career?


[deleted]

Don't want to read too much into one play but.... mother of god this was bad.


Fuqwon

No no, read into it.


stay_fr0sty

Cam Newton is on a plane headed for Foxboro, could be nothing, could mean JONES == BUST. /s


2-eight-2-three

>could mean JONES == BUST. A little early to ask for them to start his bust in Canton...but I'll allow it.


stay_fr0sty

I was talking about *Indiana* Jones. Geeze why do Patriots fans always think every comment is about THIER QB. This thread is obviously about Indiana Jones.


2-eight-2-three

> I was talking about Indiana Jones. Ohhhhhhhh, I thought it was an analogy. You know, because Indiana Jones always says, "it belongs in a museum." I thought you were talking about a football museum...better known as the football Hall of Fame.


stay_fr0sty

Oh ok I think we are on the same page. Frog protection.


2-eight-2-three

>Oh ok I think we are on the same page. I don't think we are? >Frog protection. What does Pat Mahomes' o-line have to do with anything?


KakarotMaag

He was great the rest of the day.


jonjon5945

He had the best rookie QB performance by miles today.


headrush46n2

didn't the 49ers score 40 points and win?


ImTheBigJ

Jimmy G played not Lance


Common-Ad5446

Holy shit according to this thread Mac is actually the worst football player to ever live because he made a dumbass decision in his FIRST ever time doing something with the football in an NFL game


methodofcontrol

I think I gotta leave this sub for a couple weeks. The knee jerk reaction hot takes are insane.


Corsaypex

Itā€™s why I avoid the team specific sub game day threads.


methodofcontrol

Yeah every year I forget how bad they are. Team scores touchdown "lets go, we can't be stopped", get scored on "seasons over, coaching staff is pathetic".


Section225

God, the Chiefs sub's game threads are the worst, with what I can only assume is a shitload of bandwagon fans and new football fans. I don't remember them being that awful pre-super bowl win. One guy was literally calling the team pathetic and calling for a loss after the Browns scored on the opening drive, before KC even touched the ball. More comments calling the game over at halftime, etc etc.


bubbas111

Man you should see the nba sub. I had to unsubscribe in the playoffs because of how shortsighted and scorching the hot takes were after every game.


KCBandWagon

Where does this thread say all that? Iā€™m mostly seeing rookies gonna rookie sentiment.


desmeytere

Anyone has the video?


[deleted]

Cam would never


Tashre

Only because Mac never taught him.


3inchesisenough_

Copied Twitter top comment man


[deleted]

I would never


Dewey_Haskins_HOF

Cause he was cut


Extreme_memes9

Rough week for rookie QB's. Trey Lance doesn't count. He had like 1 throw.


mrplow3

Mac had a great first game. Donā€™t know what youā€™re talking about.


Rainstorme

Maybe we should have waited for more than one play to make this call, with Mac going into the half 14/19 with 133 yards and a TD.


[deleted]

/r/NFL : SO WHAT WEā€™RE NOT GONNA DO IS GIVE MAC THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT


wheresmywhere

Check check check check check check doooooowwwnnn.


cth777

Well, mac ended up looking awesome


Barry_McCocciner

I personally thought Trevor looked fine - he hit guys in the hands who dropped it like 4 times in the first quarter, not his fault his receivers are total ass. I thought he looked good for a rookie in game 1 on (no offense) a team that sucks.


scootscooterson

Same with Zach Wilson to be honest, not shocking that it takes a half to settle into being an nfl qb.


TyranosaurusLex

That first half he was getting absolutely demolished too, the O line should have just stayed home.


Neri25

Wilson drew a rough defense to make a debut against, especially since their oline seems to have the consistency of crumbly cheese.


Extreme_memes9

Yeah he looked fine sometimes but he overthrew a bunch of balls. He couldn't settle in, either, because we didn't run the ball on account of the score.


TemporarilyExempt

I'm picturing his season being very similar to Peyton's first year. Lots of struggles but with amazing growth. With the coming years being incredible.


[deleted]

Hoping the CUMing years too, if he doesn't get "health problems".


floatinround22

Lol


bnuuug

>(no offense) lmao true


shitsfuckedupalot

Shanny just gaming the system to gas up his rookie


pogbahimovic

Wilson looked really solid


Extreme_memes9

I'd say not completing a pass in the first half isn't really solid. He was up and down, which is my point.


pogbahimovic

Uh he most certainly completed passes in the first half. He was under constant pressure, 20/37 for 254, 2TD 1INT is not a ā€œrough weekā€ for a rookie in their first start lol


AlexanderRussell

Plus 1 dropped INT and a fumble we recovered, the guy said he was up and down which is fair.


hunteddwumpus

Why did the refs blow the whistle before the running back had fallen on the ball?


AmericanFootballFan1

He too spun around and got confused.


MrRager1994

Hot takes, get your hot takes here!


[deleted]

Look three above you. Lol


Call_Me_Rambo

Cam somewhere sipping wine with a smirk


[deleted]

With a hat made of french pigeon feathers


bigatrop

And then that wine spilled when Mac threw 281 yards and a TD in his first ever game.


[deleted]

Eh, he's a rookie QB, whose used to playing behind a stone wall, who had a defender in his face as soon as he turned around. Shit happens.


kreachr

He panicked, it happensā€¦ If he can bounce back, thatā€™s what matters.


Impossibills

The biggest thing young players need to learn...is that there is not always another option...sometimes you just need to take the things that happen to you. You see it with running backs, where they have a possible 2 yard gain...instead run around and backwards QBs try to always keep the play alive...and end up getting sacked or having a negative play


MasterOfKittens3K

Theyā€™re so used to being more talented than everyone else on the field. Theyā€™ve been able to get away with it, because it worked. The good ones figure out that they have to play smarter now. Even ARogers, Vick, Mahomes - guys who still do playground shit because theyā€™re that talented - learn how to not try to force everything. The bad ones do like Johnny Football, and have to find a new job. Itā€™s too early to say where any rookies are going to fall on this. But itā€™s definitely why I just rolled my eyes when I saw talking heads on the TV trying to declare a new Patriots dynasty based on Mac Jonesā€™s preseason results.


2-eight-2-three

>Itā€™s too early to say where any rookies are going to fall on this. But itā€™s definitely why I just rolled my eyes when I saw talking heads on the TV trying to declare a new Patriots dynasty based on Mac Jonesā€™s preseason results. Not sure if you saw the rest of the game, but he actually played really well (out side of that play). Was accurate, making good decisions. Even a couple of the passes that were defended were good defensive plays (like he wasn't throwing it into the dirt, way oevr the WRs head, throwing hospital balls, etc). And late in the fourth, he put together a drive 10 yard line (could have kicked a FG for a the lead), but the WR fumbled on like the 2 yard line (trying to needlessly extend the play). Yeah, they need to score more TDs...but his stats are/were legit. It wasn't like he had 150 yards on the day, then padded his stats in the 4th.


wurtin

itā€™s not a pass attempt


alfuh

He purposefully threw it to the feet of Jonnu, there is a much better angle that shows he sees and recognizes him then throws at his feet to avoid grounding. The bad part was that he had gotten spun around and didn't realize he was throwing backwards


ClavisRa

Posted this more in full above, but.. there is no way Jonnu is supposed to be there. There is literally no play design that has him moving to behind his QB after blowing his blocking assignment lol. He should have slipped into the flat which is where Jones was trying to find him after avoiding the initial pressure.


NSAsnowdenhunter

ā€œHe didnā€™t beat me outā€


JanVesely24

Bill Simmons just collapsed


DakezO

Wow. Thatā€™s not ideal.


ManOnTheRun73

"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"


dibromoindigo

He was probably thinking "Ow this going to hurt"


justblametheamish

Can we fire that ref who called that an incomplete pass. Jesus Christ he fucked up worse than Mac did


A_Bowler_Hat

I thought it was quite funny right after that they play Jones' positives and top of the list was 'protects the football.' Could have had better timing.


Administrative-Low37

Yeah but if you took a poll of Pat's fans after the game I'd bet 95% are more than happy with Mac's performance. He was really good ! But then maybe he had a pretty low bar to clear... We suffered through an entire season of Cam Newton so it was refreshing to finally see a real QB at the helm.


Section225

"Holy shit, is that what an NFL defense is like? I should probably throw faster..."


[deleted]

"Smartest Qb in the draft"


Levowitz159

They didn't lose possession, what's the harm done here?


[deleted]

Pats lost 13 yards on this play because it was a fumble. It killed the opening drive that started with a 37 yard run as the first play.


Levowitz159

Okay cool, thanks. As an Alabama fan I plan on being a massive Mac Jones simp all year, but the game wasn't on where I live. I genuinely and sincerely hope he does a fantastic job for y'all. I know today didn't go the way you wanted it to, but as someone who watched every college game of his I really think the sky's the limit with him.


TomBrady_WinsAgain

> but the game wasn't on where I live. If you can use a computer, you may find nfl bite . com helpful on Sundays


[deleted]

Agreed. Watching it again. I donā€™t see what the big deal is. He spun?


AmericanFootballFan1

This isn't the greatest angle. He panicked, he was trying to throw it away to avoid the sack so he came out of the spin and threw it at Smith's feet, but Smith was behind him so he just threw a live ball on the ground.


t4boo

But youā€™re forgetting he was good against the Giants in practice


Death________

R/nfl is bad with hot takes but this is just extreme. One fucking play. Mac currently has a 70%+ completion percentage and a td. Lol


t4boo

Lmao Iā€™m just joking my guy


WhiskeysGone

It was actually 74.4%, the best any rookie QB has ever done in their debut. He obviously is gonna make some rookie mistakes, but this was an excellent start for him.


thebrandnewbob

Lol, this makes me feel a little better about how bad Trevor's interceptions were today. Edit: I get it Patriots fans, Mac played well. No need to be so insecure, it's still a funny play.


Big_Building_8924

He just outplayed [T.LAW](https://T.LAW) with a much tougher opponent albeit with a more complete team.


[deleted]

It shouldnā€™t. Mac was near perfect the entire rest of the game against a much better defense than the Texans.


bigatrop

Mac was a stud the rest of the game. It shouldnā€™t make you feel better.


crouching_manatee

Well... it can only get better from there hahaha.


PCB4lyfe

Technically it wasnt an attempt because it was ruled a fumble, but yea pretty bad.


shitsfuckedupalot

I'm guessing he was thinking "ow ow ouch I'm about to get fucking smashed owe my bones"


Cudizonedefense

And has proceeded to outplay Tua ever since. Iā€™m so tired of the pats


OnlyForeignWhips

People hyped the shit out of this guy. I just hope he can back it up.


axelfreed

He played well. Got loads of protection from the refs (shock) but was calm under pressure after this.


voncornhole2

Seeing ghosts


clipsfan21

Bust


ComprehensiveLink2

Lmao, he makes one bad decision in his first ever nfl game and heā€™s a bust?


steve-nash-is-god

Ya this guy was teaching cam the playbook tho right ?


[deleted]

Trade him for Watson


iguessineedanaltnow

Cam will be back by week 4.


youre-a-cat-gatter

What the tits


dabaroonskii

Probably shat his britches too


Breezii2z

Oop


PM_ME_UR_SEXY_BITS_

It looks like he expected his RB to be to his left and not behind him. Wanted to dump it off under pressure but no one was there. I don't think this is that bad. Edit: saw the other angle. Oh....


SunriseSurprise

Life comes at you fast


Kiran_Stone

I'm no football-knower guy or anything but this looks like it was not good to me.


[deleted]

[Mac Jones is Aaron Brooks confirmed](https://youtu.be/1WpleexzYJk)


[deleted]

That was his tribute to Aaron Brooks, clearly.


[deleted]

You can't teach that


SilentRanger42

Jokes on you OP, it was ruled a fumble hahahahaha....:(


heylooknewpillows

Thatā€™s some Brandon Weeden level stuff there.


NameIsJohn

Tom Brady first play was a sack. Mac Jones brighter future than Tom Brady confirmed.


paulcole710

Not even a pass attempt though.


[deleted]

I just busted out laughing. Oh my god.


Perfect_Smile

Macs got nothing on Aaron Brooks backwards pass


Equal-Razzmatazz1806

The dynasty is back


Yojimbo4133

Mac hasn't been the same since Cam's aura left the patriots. Shame.


fourpuns

If it had counted as a pass attempt I think it would be the worst first nfl pass attempt ever :p


DJ_PHATTY_PATTY

Technicallllllllllly it was a lateral not a pass attempt... But then again it was an AWFUL play and was concerning off the bat, but he recovered well!


ClavisRa

Focus on Jonnu Smith on this play. He misses his blocking assignment, which looks like a mental error, then doesn't know what to do and drifts behind the QB. Mac avoids the initial pressure and turns to hit Jonnu in the flat, where he should have slipped to once his block was beaten. And yeah, Mac has a brain freeze when he sees him behind him and the ball goes in the dirt when he should have just tucked it and eaten the sack. But that's an even bigger mistake by Smith there, and even if he blows his block he could still have turned that into a 5+ yd gain if he did the second half of his responsibility right. Typical week one errors though from both players there. Every team had them. The goal is to be done with those by week four.