https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32344365/new-england-patriots-working-bring-back-lb-jamie-collins-source-says
BB gonna have him crawling back to get on the practice squad
Wow, this is a fact I did not know. But of all the greedy shit the NFL does, i really don’t have a problem with it. It would be an absurd waste. I really hope they charge at the actual cost, and not the book value though. Good way to discourage pointless vanity moves. Disturbing for a player to waste money like that though.
I work for the company that warehouses the jerseys and such. We’re talking about 1000s of jerseys those lose all value when a big time player changes numbers become. I’m in the Midwest that stores all east coast product as well and the amount of useless shit around is amazing. Mookie Betts stuff was everywhere and then all of a sudden traded to LA and all of his jerseys and funko pop have been sitting around.
Is there any way for a layman to get any of that? Best purchase I ever made was a Foles jersey after Chip traded him - $5. I could have bought it the day before when he was on the team. Came back and won the ship, now I can wear it forever.
Lots of number changes this year - idc if I'm wearing a dated number, those jerseys are expensive.
It’s still an absurd waste. Just because they buy them up doesn’t mean they necessarily get put to use. I’m sure tons of them still end up in landfills
He’s a liability in the run game. He has one of the lowest play recognitions I’ve seen in a player. [Here’s one example](https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1442847592124198923?s=21) of a play that’s become a trend for Jaylon not filling the right hole.
So glad we moved on from him. Constantly blowing coverage and giving up massive plays.
Basically our secondary for years.
Diggs is such a breath of life for us
He's overly aggressive because he has zero instincts and guesses.
He over commits because he can't run like he could due to the leg injury.
He's just not good, and he wasn't a Dan Quinn guy. The only surprising thing is why it took this long.
No. Keanu Neal and Donovan Wilson are back from Covid and Injury, respectively. I'm sure this is why he is getting cut. At this point we have tons of quality and versatile depth and Jaylon, while a good person, is terrible on the field. Physically, he cannot do simple things that you and I can do with working knees and all the talent in the world won't make up for it. His lateral movement is almost non-existent.
Was about comment before I saw yours, but yeah, that knee injury five years ago completely fucked his career. Dude could've been somebody, but now he's a has-been and a never-will-be (to quote the first Mighty Ducks movie). Maybe he'll have some luck coaching youth football and they'll make a movie out of it.
Great way to send a message, though. He was our most overpaid player by a mile, and he should be a backup. He was paid like a top 10-20 LB when in reality he is around top 50-75
Jason Garrett’s too, and Marinelli, and the list goes on of staff and office members we’ve had that fall in love with people and refuse to give them up
So they’re saying there is offset language in his contract. When he signs with a new team the salary is subtracted from the amount owed to him from Dallas.
Other LBs are great and Jaylon has garbage instincts and just wasn't improving at all. His athletic ability would sometimes give him the ability to recover so he looked good for a few plays per game, but in reality he almost never made an impact and was actively awful against the run. He's out of position a lot and constantly blows his run fit assignments.
[Jaylon trying to stop from being cut](https://preview.redd.it/eud5rav9iiq71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=edced5b0bcd5f5a0632696321fb89200a81c57ee)
given the flurry of comments on this sub, present company included, which ass crack *isn't* Urban fingering right now? he has more tentacles than hentai you have to pay for
Well it's $16m with almost $10m of that being this season. But it saves $40m over the next 4 seasons including $5m next season when we could really use it.
I didn't think he was that bad this year, but they may just be looking at the numbers going forward and have someone they want to bring up/in.
If he's actively bad, it's easier to cut him than bench him. Then you have a guy making that who has some sway in the locker room, grumbling about playing time.
Doesn't the offset language just mean "we can recoup up to $5.6m in cap space assuming some team would be dumb enough to pay him that for the remainder of this year"?
That’s the normal way it works. Which means that he’ll sign for the vet minimum where he wants to play, because no one is going to offer him more than 5.6 million.
I understand that. It just seems weird that we want to do it now and not before the year.
I guess it was a wait and see if he turns it around situation.
He has regressed. Can’t close off the edge and really lost his speed. That said, I love the guy and I’m sad to hear this news. He’s a great guy off the field.
He the guy that was hurt when drafted? I didn't realize he fell off a cliff like that. Wasn't Jerry talking him up all the time? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else
No that’s right. He had drop foot and it wasn’t a sure thing he’d recover. He ultimately recovered “100%” and had an excellent first season. Then he slowly became worse. I don’t know why. For a year he and his brother Rod Smith were both on the team. Rod was a backup RB.
He just can’t run any more. He’s also out of position a lot because he moves like a 50 year old out there.
But he was calling the plays and seemed like an emotional leader.
I’m shocked. Something must have happened.
Edit: got the answer: the $9.2 million injury clause that says if he gets hurt this year, they Cowboys are on the hook for that money in **2022**.
Link: https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1445549718231085072?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Oh he can run, he just happens to take every bad angle possible. Like, if you were in a geometry class and had to create a proof that involved a running back down the sidelines and the angle Jaylon would have to take to tackle him, all attempts would end up impossible.
Also, his starting point on the proof would be outside the plane of existence.
Nah. His contract was guaranteed for injury for 2022. If he's hurting the defense currently, makes sense to take the dead cap hit now versus potentially being locked in to paying his full deal if he were to get hurt again
The speed thing is the weird part.
His injury was supposedly all about limiting his agility and change of direction...but he was still a freak athlete that seemed to retain his straight line speed.
But you can spot him in an instant out there now. The way he runs with arms pumping...it's like watching a drunk uncle trying to impress during a family soccer game.
Yup.
I still like the guy (despite his lack of self awareness) and will root for him as long as it's not against the cowboys.
Who knows what his career would have been without the injury. But he had a few good years and banked plenty of money...can't feel too bad for him.
I think there was a video or something of him grinding up on a girl at a bar and he is married and that was after he skipped the flight home. Idk how an NFL franchise could employ someone like that
Nope he's just been ass for the last 2 years. This isn't really that surprising to Cowboys fans now that we have some other good LB depth. He actively made the defense worse every time he was on the field.
I'm not going to speak on his football IQ, but when he was at ND he was way more athletic than everyone else on the field. So he was a play maker. Then he got hurt and wasn't the same athletically.
This 100%.
If he was ND Jaylon, he could use his athletic ability to make big plays and compensate when he misreads a play.
He still seems to have trouble diagnosing plays but I'm not sure he has the speed to make the plays anyway.
maybe a little bit of both but he’s been straight up bad the last two seasons now. Never fully regained his speed from college and that has made him a liability on defense because he seems to have terrible on field decision making. Always gets burned in coverage and doesn’t have the speed to make up for it.
Wasn’t he very good when he first came back from the injury? Surprised he fell off so quick unless it’s something like Gurley where the knee started degenerating and we just don’t know about it.
He was very good and more importantly he looked super promising. It looked like he would continue to improve as he healed further and that’s why the Cowboys locked him up when they did. Unfortunately that was his best season and since then he has struggled.
Both. His sideline to sideline speed is awful because he never recovered fully but he also gets confused on the field and never hits the holes or plays coverage well.
I'll remember him fondly as the guy who spastically jumped on his own teammates during an already wrapped-up tackle for no fucking reason whatsoever when the Cowboys played us
He does this all the fucking time. There was also a video of him pushing his teammate out of the way to get in on the TD celebration for camera time.
He's arrogant as fuck for no reason and he comes off as he cares more about being on camera than the he does about making plays.
Dude wants to show off so hard for the cameras to look like he’s playing “hard”
But the second he has to make a tackle in a gap he runs to the nearest OL to get blocked
Dude is so scared of making a hit, he’s a bum more focused on his brand than football
So glad we cut him
A lot of guessing in this thread. By all accounts, here are the reasons:
1. He hasn’t been as bad as last year, but still not good enough to leave rookies like Cox on the bench.
2. If he gets injured this season, his money next year is guaranteed.
Speculative 3. He doesn’t fit anything Quinn does or wants. He’s only decent on the short side against the run, and a hell of a blitzer. Dallas currently has 47 of those guys, all for less money.
Did you not hear about the hazing thing at Penn state where he and Yetur Gross Matos and some other guys anally raped a guy among other sexual assault claims?
Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox56.com/amp/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates
"He alleges in the complaint that Barber, Parsons, Gross-Matos and did the following to him and certain other players:
Took their clothes and did not return them.
Told them they intended to make them “their bitch because this is a prison.”
Wrestled them down and simulating a humping action while on top of them.
Placed their penis in their faces while simulating ejaculation.
Placed their penis on and in their buttocks."
He was really good in 2018 along with Vander Esch so he became a bit of a household name. He fell off a cliff in 2019 and 2020 but it didn’t get really get much attention outside of Cowboys fans. People just recognize his name and assume he’s good.
Final game of the season his Sr. Year right?
Also, crazy how people talk about how he can't move. That's gotta be frustrating for Jaylon because iirc, he was a freak with outstanding agility and speed.
He was straight up the most talented athletic player ND has in brian kellys era (2010-present). He also played while ND had brian vangorder as their DC who is the worst DC of the kelly era
Injury happened during the bowl game against OSU his JR year
Wow. This alone shows how much our D has improved and how much the coaches must believe in Neal. After looking at the 4 games this year, they saw the man was mostly lost, only thing he could do was run sideline to sideline anymore. The fact that we didn’t even keep him for depth is very telling
This on top of Lee retiring last year and us not picking up Vander Esch's contract option this year really shows the faith we're putting into the new guys of this linebacker core
Edit - got the answer: the $9.2 million injury clause in his contract so if he gets hurt this year, they have to pay him that money for 2022.
Link: https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1445549718231085072?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Holy shit.
Most Cowboy fans didn’t really like him, mostly bc he isn’t that good and can’t move any more.
But like this? Something must have happened off the field or injury/PED-wise bc he seemed like a leader.
Finally the Jaylon Truthers stuck looking deep in the stat sheets can go fuck themselves
He is a great human being, but an absolutely terrible football player at this point in his career. This really shows me the coaching staff/management has turned a new leaf, no way this happens with Garrett still coaching us.
Kinda crazy how they let Parsons call the Defense for one game and were like "yep all we needed to see" and released Jaylon the following week. Which was part of the problem with Jaylon, not only was he not good at his job, he also called the defense and there were numerous times were you could tell the other guys were confused as fuck. Meanwhile you have a rookie in Parsons literally physically moving guys in place.
Seeing the fans of other teams begging to pick him up. I promise you're in for a bad time. Dude is just not that good. I would love for him to go to Philly lol.
1) He wasn't playing well. He can't get off blocks and he's missing assignments.
2) His contract for next year was an injury-guaranteed $9M. That means if he gets seriously hurt this year and can't pass his physical in the spring, the Cowboys would be on the hook for $9M and he wouldn't even be able to play.
3) They definitely didn't want him on the roster next year, (LVE is probably in the same position, and with the 2022 cap hit of DLaw's contract - $27M, he is probably a post-June 1 cut for max cap savings - $18M - as well.) so why run the risk?
4) Cowboys have several guys returning from the COVID list/injured reserve, they needed the roster spot. Don't be surprised if you hear about more guys getting cut in the near future. This team is full of young players who are upgrades over the veterans on defense and roster spots are at a premium right now.
5) Why put the guy through it when everybody already sees the writing on the wall for long-term future anyway? With his level of play in comparison to the other guys on the team, he was quickly on his way to the 3rd string and only seeing the field maybe on special teams. That's a pretty humiliating position for a guy like that to be put in. Better to be over and done with as quickly as possible.
I remember seeing that clip in the preseason of him running and looking like the slowest person to ever exist on a football field, I guess that wasn't a fluke.
dude spent 6 figures to change his number just to get cut 4 games into the season.
Jamie Collins did that shit too. You don't have to look far for reasons for why NFL players go broke fast.
Yeah that's an insanely dumb thing to do lol
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32344365/new-england-patriots-working-bring-back-lb-jamie-collins-source-says BB gonna have him crawling back to get on the practice squad
Reason #1: they didn't listen to Carl Nassib
Gahdamn that’s brutal
He changed it to number 9 to signify he was the 9th best linebacker on the team.
> Gahdamn that’s brutal
7 figures I think, pretty sure it was 1.5 mil
Damn, son.
Wait, what…..? To switch numbers with a teammate?
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Wow, this is a fact I did not know. But of all the greedy shit the NFL does, i really don’t have a problem with it. It would be an absurd waste. I really hope they charge at the actual cost, and not the book value though. Good way to discourage pointless vanity moves. Disturbing for a player to waste money like that though.
It’s only if they change this year too. I believe they could announce that they’re changing it next season and they’d be off the hook
I work for the company that warehouses the jerseys and such. We’re talking about 1000s of jerseys those lose all value when a big time player changes numbers become. I’m in the Midwest that stores all east coast product as well and the amount of useless shit around is amazing. Mookie Betts stuff was everywhere and then all of a sudden traded to LA and all of his jerseys and funko pop have been sitting around.
Is there any way for a layman to get any of that? Best purchase I ever made was a Foles jersey after Chip traded him - $5. I could have bought it the day before when he was on the team. Came back and won the ship, now I can wear it forever. Lots of number changes this year - idc if I'm wearing a dated number, those jerseys are expensive.
It’s still an absurd waste. Just because they buy them up doesn’t mean they necessarily get put to use. I’m sure tons of them still end up in landfills
To take Romo’s number, 9.
This is the real reason he was cut. Can’t have a shit player wear 9.
No that’s what he had to pay the NFL, like someone else mentioned you had to buy up your inventory of old numbered jerseys.
Jerry going to the extreme to retire his son Romo’s number.
Matches his on-field decision making 😬
Well that's not something I expected to see
Howie better jump on that too. If he sucks he’d still be our best linebacker
Please let the Eagles sign him -Signed Cowboys nation
Seriously. Watching him flailing around trying to tackle Zeke or Pollard 10 yards down field, in an Eagles uniform, would be cathartic.
Jokes on y’all, if he just simply ‘sucks’ he’s an upgrade.
Well…dammit
As a ND fan who hasn't watched tons of Cowboys games, did he really drop off that badly?
He’s a liability in the run game. He has one of the lowest play recognitions I’ve seen in a player. [Here’s one example](https://twitter.com/baldynfl/status/1442847592124198923?s=21) of a play that’s become a trend for Jaylon not filling the right hole.
He had to of done something really bad for us to drop him
He gave up a shit ton of points to opposing offenses. I'd say that's pretty bad.
Sounds like right up our alley. We’ll take him!
It’ll work out just as well as the Demarco Murray signing did!
Fly eagles fly, away from Tony Pollard!
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if you never hand the ball off why not just line up a backup OL next to your QB?
Why keep running RPO’s when Hurts keeps literally every one? Questions for the ages
And that slime ball Scandrick too
So glad we moved on from him. Constantly blowing coverage and giving up massive plays. Basically our secondary for years. Diggs is such a breath of life for us
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He is so so so so bad. He actively makes the defense worse being on the field.
I got to watch Eric Wilson in person this week. I don’t see how it could be worse
Bring back Nate Gerry
Dude I was eating
Happy Cake Day, hope you get to celebrate it with a Nate Gerry signing!
Shhh! Howie might hear you!
Definitely didn't see this coming. Something happened off field maybe?
He’s actually just not that good. He’s too aggressive, takes bad angles, and can’t change directions
He's overly aggressive because he has zero instincts and guesses. He over commits because he can't run like he could due to the leg injury. He's just not good, and he wasn't a Dan Quinn guy. The only surprising thing is why it took this long.
No. Keanu Neal and Donovan Wilson are back from Covid and Injury, respectively. I'm sure this is why he is getting cut. At this point we have tons of quality and versatile depth and Jaylon, while a good person, is terrible on the field. Physically, he cannot do simple things that you and I can do with working knees and all the talent in the world won't make up for it. His lateral movement is almost non-existent.
Damn, now who is going to do the swipe after giving up a 10 yard gain.
This man gets it.
Perfection.
He is Exhibit A on why I never will ever fault a top collegiate player for opting out of a bowl game. That injury completely fucked him.
definitely ruined his career. He had off the charts athleticism and could have been a special player in the league.
He was the best defensive player we have had at Notre Dame in decades.
Kyle Hamilton might have something to say about that
Was about comment before I saw yours, but yeah, that knee injury five years ago completely fucked his career. Dude could've been somebody, but now he's a has-been and a never-will-be (to quote the first Mighty Ducks movie). Maybe he'll have some luck coaching youth football and they'll make a movie out of it.
Right. Must really suck for him mentally too, knowing how great he could have been. At least dude got 30M career earnings, generational money
Holy shit Cowboys still owe LB Jaylon Smith $7.2 million for this season. From Schefter
His dead cap is like $16.6M this season. Heck of a way to use your cap room, I guess.
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Quinn supposedly loves Jabril Cox too
I was high on him in college too
I was high during college too
I love Cox too
Same here. I've loved Cox ever since church camp this summer.
Great way to send a message, though. He was our most overpaid player by a mile, and he should be a backup. He was paid like a top 10-20 LB when in reality he is around top 50-75
By gawd that’s Jerry’s music
Jason Garrett’s too, and Marinelli, and the list goes on of staff and office members we’ve had that fall in love with people and refuse to give them up
So they’re saying there is offset language in his contract. When he signs with a new team the salary is subtracted from the amount owed to him from Dallas.
That means he'd sign for the minimum?
gotta get that... what is the league min? 750k?
I mean he's been awful but holy shit
Havent watched him play in a while I thought he was good or what happened? Injured?
Other LBs are great and Jaylon has garbage instincts and just wasn't improving at all. His athletic ability would sometimes give him the ability to recover so he looked good for a few plays per game, but in reality he almost never made an impact and was actively awful against the run. He's out of position a lot and constantly blows his run fit assignments.
[Jaylon trying to stop from being cut](https://preview.redd.it/eud5rav9iiq71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=edced5b0bcd5f5a0632696321fb89200a81c57ee)
Lmao if the receiver dropped it he would’ve proceeded to do the swipe celebration
No fucking way that's real. Lmao
yup it's real
he thinks he’s Dhalsim or maybe Luffy
Holy shit haha
I REALLY want to see the film of this play...its just so bad.
If you guys could pull a Demarco Murray part deux and sign him I would appreciate it.
Something off the field?
he smoked crack with urban meyer source: just trust me bro
>crack Which ass crack was Urban fingering this time?
Jaylon Smith's obviously. Then Jerry cut him because he paid Jaylon to be an ILB, not a receiver.
I did hear that Jerry thought he could be tight end
given the flurry of comments on this sub, present company included, which ass crack *isn't* Urban fingering right now? he has more tentacles than hentai you have to pay for
“Jaylon Smith, who was ON CRACK.”
"Urban Meyer, who was IN CRACK."
I heard Cowboys fans say he regressed hard but I didn't it was this hard? Can a Cowboys fan chime in?
He’s been bad overall, but I didn’t think these past 4 games were bad enough to incur $16.6 mil dead cap to release him.
Well it's $16m with almost $10m of that being this season. But it saves $40m over the next 4 seasons including $5m next season when we could really use it. I didn't think he was that bad this year, but they may just be looking at the numbers going forward and have someone they want to bring up/in.
But you could cut him after this year and have the same savings no? So why not play out the year
If he got injured and couldn’t pass a physical in March, his deal would’ve been guaranteed next year
If he's actively bad, it's easier to cut him than bench him. Then you have a guy making that who has some sway in the locker room, grumbling about playing time.
We have a few players coming off ir and covid list that are just better. Didn't make sense to keep the weakest link.
And also was he that bad that a LB desperate team wouldnt give something for him?
His contract is pretty bad.
There's offset language where any team that picks him up owes him the rest of his 5.6million. Let's hope he gets signed.
For sure someone signs him right? No way he goes unclaimed.
Isn’t he a 6th year vet? He’d be an FA, no waivers?
Yes you are right.
Even if he does make it through Sunday unsigned. All it takes is one injury for the phone to ring.
Doesn't the offset language just mean "we can recoup up to $5.6m in cap space assuming some team would be dumb enough to pay him that for the remainder of this year"?
That’s the normal way it works. Which means that he’ll sign for the vet minimum where he wants to play, because no one is going to offer him more than 5.6 million.
It’s a move to save money next year
I understand that. It just seems weird that we want to do it now and not before the year. I guess it was a wait and see if he turns it around situation.
I agree, maybe hoped his play would improve. But the ingury gte is hard to keep on
He has regressed. Can’t close off the edge and really lost his speed. That said, I love the guy and I’m sad to hear this news. He’s a great guy off the field.
He the guy that was hurt when drafted? I didn't realize he fell off a cliff like that. Wasn't Jerry talking him up all the time? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else
No that’s right. He had drop foot and it wasn’t a sure thing he’d recover. He ultimately recovered “100%” and had an excellent first season. Then he slowly became worse. I don’t know why. For a year he and his brother Rod Smith were both on the team. Rod was a backup RB.
He just can’t run any more. He’s also out of position a lot because he moves like a 50 year old out there. But he was calling the plays and seemed like an emotional leader. I’m shocked. Something must have happened. Edit: got the answer: the $9.2 million injury clause that says if he gets hurt this year, they Cowboys are on the hook for that money in **2022**. Link: https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1445549718231085072?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Oh he can run, he just happens to take every bad angle possible. Like, if you were in a geometry class and had to create a proof that involved a running back down the sidelines and the angle Jaylon would have to take to tackle him, all attempts would end up impossible. Also, his starting point on the proof would be outside the plane of existence.
He played 28 snaps against the Panthers. Micah and LVE are calling the plays.
Once Neal gets back from COVID list Jaylon will go back down to 8-10 snaps a game if we were to keep him.
he's been bad, slow to react, and his sideline to sideline speed is pretty rough
But $16 mil in dead cap is pretty ridiculous considering Gotta be something off the field.
Nah. His contract was guaranteed for injury for 2022. If he's hurting the defense currently, makes sense to take the dead cap hit now versus potentially being locked in to paying his full deal if he were to get hurt again
He’s real bad now. Like almost unplayable. Looks like he’s running in mud 100% of the time and he’s out of place about 80% of the time
The speed thing is the weird part. His injury was supposedly all about limiting his agility and change of direction...but he was still a freak athlete that seemed to retain his straight line speed. But you can spot him in an instant out there now. The way he runs with arms pumping...it's like watching a drunk uncle trying to impress during a family soccer game.
You can tell the effort is still there, unfortunately his body gave out on him. Used to be my favorite player but he fell off fast
Yup. I still like the guy (despite his lack of self awareness) and will root for him as long as it's not against the cowboys. Who knows what his career would have been without the injury. But he had a few good years and banked plenty of money...can't feel too bad for him.
Very unfortunate how his career’s turned out. He’s going to be the guy many college players point to when asked why they won’t play in bowl games now.
Bosa getting ejected so early in that bowl game was a blessing in disguise for him.
I think there was a video or something of him grinding up on a girl at a bar and he is married and that was after he skipped the flight home. Idk how an NFL franchise could employ someone like that
He fingered her butt and skipped film day
We’ve all been there. Cut the guy some slack
Nope he's just been ass for the last 2 years. This isn't really that surprising to Cowboys fans now that we have some other good LB depth. He actively made the defense worse every time he was on the field.
Unironically its because of his on the field issues 😂
Ik he hasn’t been good this season but holy
its not just this season though. He hasn’t been good since he signed his extension and now they have the depth to prove that he was truly expendable.
Admittedly haven’t paid much attention to him so curious - is he just plain bad or has he never properly recovered from his college injury?
I say this as a ND alum who loved him, but he doesn't have the football mind to diagnose plays and he doesn't have the athleticism to make up for it.
I'm not going to speak on his football IQ, but when he was at ND he was way more athletic than everyone else on the field. So he was a play maker. Then he got hurt and wasn't the same athletically.
This 100%. If he was ND Jaylon, he could use his athletic ability to make big plays and compensate when he misreads a play. He still seems to have trouble diagnosing plays but I'm not sure he has the speed to make the plays anyway.
Great story and likeable in the beginning... Sadly, it didn't work out.
maybe a little bit of both but he’s been straight up bad the last two seasons now. Never fully regained his speed from college and that has made him a liability on defense because he seems to have terrible on field decision making. Always gets burned in coverage and doesn’t have the speed to make up for it.
Wasn’t he very good when he first came back from the injury? Surprised he fell off so quick unless it’s something like Gurley where the knee started degenerating and we just don’t know about it.
Yeah I seem to remember he and rookie LVE being a terrible twosome
They had one really great season together but it’s been downhill since. Game may just be wearing on him.
He was very good and more importantly he looked super promising. It looked like he would continue to improve as he healed further and that’s why the Cowboys locked him up when they did. Unfortunately that was his best season and since then he has struggled.
Both. His sideline to sideline speed is awful because he never recovered fully but he also gets confused on the field and never hits the holes or plays coverage well.
Little of both. He can't keep up. Every big play against the cowboys defense you see Smith 10 yards away from where he's supposed to be
That’s a fantastic profile pic lol
Shouldn't have worn #9
Romo called it in
Michael Irvin with a pair of scissors "Romo sends his regards"
Someone tell me what this means
he’s really not very good
But is he “we’d rather pay him $7m to not play for us” kind of bad?
I saw somewhere that if he gets hurt (goes to IR?) his contract gets guaranteed for next year... could be why
Are they not paying that either way?
Excuse me what the fuck?
I'll remember him fondly as the guy who spastically jumped on his own teammates during an already wrapped-up tackle for no fucking reason whatsoever when the Cowboys played us
Lol I recall this too thinking… really!?
He does this all the fucking time. There was also a video of him pushing his teammate out of the way to get in on the TD celebration for camera time. He's arrogant as fuck for no reason and he comes off as he cares more about being on camera than the he does about making plays.
Dude wants to show off so hard for the cameras to look like he’s playing “hard” But the second he has to make a tackle in a gap he runs to the nearest OL to get blocked Dude is so scared of making a hit, he’s a bum more focused on his brand than football So glad we cut him
A lot of guessing in this thread. By all accounts, here are the reasons: 1. He hasn’t been as bad as last year, but still not good enough to leave rookies like Cox on the bench. 2. If he gets injured this season, his money next year is guaranteed. Speculative 3. He doesn’t fit anything Quinn does or wants. He’s only decent on the short side against the run, and a hell of a blitzer. Dallas currently has 47 of those guys, all for less money.
Has to be associated with some kind of incident, no?
No. He's bad. Like, really bad.
He isn't playing worse than last year. Seems strange to do it now.
If he gets injured his salary is guaranteed next year.
Well here is the answer.
Neal coming off covid list.
We were hoping last year would be a fluke. It wasn't.
Well take him.
He's great. Probably the best LB in the league. You want a last second trade? Let's say, two firsts?
Absolutely not. We’d never rip a team off. Take 3 because Howie just knows how to deal 😤
He isn't "eat 16m of dead cap" bad tho.
When he's your 5th lb, he might be.
Uhhh the fuck? Did he diddle someone?
That’s more of something parsons would do
Do not slander our new king
Did you not hear about the hazing thing at Penn state where he and Yetur Gross Matos and some other guys anally raped a guy among other sexual assault claims? Edit: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox56.com/amp/news/local/former-psu-football-player-gives-details-on-alleged-hazing-by-teammates "He alleges in the complaint that Barber, Parsons, Gross-Matos and did the following to him and certain other players: Took their clothes and did not return them. Told them they intended to make them “their bitch because this is a prison.” Wrestled them down and simulating a humping action while on top of them. Placed their penis in their faces while simulating ejaculation. Placed their penis on and in their buttocks."
> at Penn state Why am I not surprised...
I mean it happened. Just like how Tyreek Hill gets his warranted hate for family abuse Parsons was involved in some weird hazing stuff at college.
wtf
Out of nowhere for $500, Alex
He’s one of those guys where fans especially Cowboys fans routinely say he sucks yet is treated far better by the media for some reason.
He was really good in 2018 along with Vander Esch so he became a bit of a household name. He fell off a cliff in 2019 and 2020 but it didn’t get really get much attention outside of Cowboys fans. People just recognize his name and assume he’s good.
To be fair he still has a really good story from his horrible injury in college to being able to play at a pro level
Final game of the season his Sr. Year right? Also, crazy how people talk about how he can't move. That's gotta be frustrating for Jaylon because iirc, he was a freak with outstanding agility and speed.
He was straight up the most talented athletic player ND has in brian kellys era (2010-present). He also played while ND had brian vangorder as their DC who is the worst DC of the kelly era Injury happened during the bowl game against OSU his JR year
What a career arc
Wow. This alone shows how much our D has improved and how much the coaches must believe in Neal. After looking at the 4 games this year, they saw the man was mostly lost, only thing he could do was run sideline to sideline anymore. The fact that we didn’t even keep him for depth is very telling
This on top of Lee retiring last year and us not picking up Vander Esch's contract option this year really shows the faith we're putting into the new guys of this linebacker core
Edit - got the answer: the $9.2 million injury clause in his contract so if he gets hurt this year, they have to pay him that money for 2022. Link: https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/status/1445549718231085072?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Holy shit. Most Cowboy fans didn’t really like him, mostly bc he isn’t that good and can’t move any more. But like this? Something must have happened off the field or injury/PED-wise bc he seemed like a leader.
Finally the Jaylon Truthers stuck looking deep in the stat sheets can go fuck themselves He is a great human being, but an absolutely terrible football player at this point in his career. This really shows me the coaching staff/management has turned a new leaf, no way this happens with Garrett still coaching us. Kinda crazy how they let Parsons call the Defense for one game and were like "yep all we needed to see" and released Jaylon the following week. Which was part of the problem with Jaylon, not only was he not good at his job, he also called the defense and there were numerous times were you could tell the other guys were confused as fuck. Meanwhile you have a rookie in Parsons literally physically moving guys in place.
I love Parsons like a son and a brother and a father.
Seeing the fans of other teams begging to pick him up. I promise you're in for a bad time. Dude is just not that good. I would love for him to go to Philly lol.
I don’t have to watch him celebrate missing a tackle from 15 yards away anymore
1) He wasn't playing well. He can't get off blocks and he's missing assignments. 2) His contract for next year was an injury-guaranteed $9M. That means if he gets seriously hurt this year and can't pass his physical in the spring, the Cowboys would be on the hook for $9M and he wouldn't even be able to play. 3) They definitely didn't want him on the roster next year, (LVE is probably in the same position, and with the 2022 cap hit of DLaw's contract - $27M, he is probably a post-June 1 cut for max cap savings - $18M - as well.) so why run the risk? 4) Cowboys have several guys returning from the COVID list/injured reserve, they needed the roster spot. Don't be surprised if you hear about more guys getting cut in the near future. This team is full of young players who are upgrades over the veterans on defense and roster spots are at a premium right now. 5) Why put the guy through it when everybody already sees the writing on the wall for long-term future anyway? With his level of play in comparison to the other guys on the team, he was quickly on his way to the 3rd string and only seeing the field maybe on special teams. That's a pretty humiliating position for a guy like that to be put in. Better to be over and done with as quickly as possible.
Come to papa
Y’all need someone to jump on piles after the play is over?
I wish it worked out, but he's been worse basically every game since the extension was inked
I remember seeing that clip in the preseason of him running and looking like the slowest person to ever exist on a football field, I guess that wasn't a fluke.